Frasier 1993

@thefilmfreak Fraiser without Frasier would be anything but Frasier much like the oxymoron "vegan burger"... you can call it anything you want but that won't change the fact that it isn't a burger and will never become one.

By the way, you may depict Fraiser' character as almost anything but ignorant is not one. Utter ignorance, a total lack of knowledge or information, is what you show about this tv series in your description of it. Maybe you are still too immature to appreciate the use of irony in stead of straight and simple dialogues.

@abetancort I refer to his lack of tact and regard for others when I mention his ignorance. Maybe you are too self absorbed to realise that words can have more than one meaning.

@thefilmfreak I think Ignorance by itself is too ambiguous to convey what it seems you wanted to say. If you think it was voluntary for the character "his total disregard for anyone else but him, made of him the epitome of egocentrism, which unfortunately is a unifying trait of all sociopaths".

On the other hand if you follow me in description of Frasier, the character, "Frasier innate inability to read, relate and react adequately to others' situations and feelings within socially sanctioned responses, is fundamental for TV comedy. He get himself in the awkward situations which set the story line for almost every episode and where the rest of the cast have untangle him and bear his 'special personality' that makes him unbearable".

Fraiser, the series, was probably the first time a main trait of an Aspergers syndrome was included as central trait to a leading character of a tv comedy series to be aired on prime time. I think it was one the precursor in breaking the ice allowing to more openly and accurately portray certain personality disorders on mainstream tv. Today among others, we have the excellent Sheldon Cooper in The Big Bang Theory.

@abetancort yes on the whole frasier is essential to the tv series being that it is based around him. he often does not take into account the feelings of others, which irritates me, but I did not realise that Frasier shows traits of someone with Aspergers but I will keep an eye out for it next time I watch the series - however, I disagree with you on the big bang theory, which is overtly and inherently misogynistic - something which is and should be unacceptable in this day and age. I do not view it for this very reason. so I do not wish to discuss it.

I have a personality disorder myself, but much of the world's media and portrayal of neurodivergent individuals is stigmatised and demonises us. Frasier can be likeable, but he is very self-absorbed. I am not attributing this to his Aspergers, I am merely pointing out that only people who have and understand a certain syndrome or disorder should write about it, because those who do not couldn't possibly understand what it is like and therefore will offend and upset those who do through their misrepresentation of neurodivergents and their mental disabilities/illnesses/differences.

@thefilmfreak People with Aspergers are not necessarily unlikeable, specially as they get older willingly compensating, they usually become more likable than most people due to an active rational effort to emulate the responses that society expects. But situations that require a real emotional response tend to throw them off, because they may think is simply wrong to emulate these deeper emotions or just because the lack of enough exposure to these situations in a third person view to create a proper framework for the cues and the accepted reactions to them. That is one the main reasons that many compensating Aspergers when faced with one to one interactions involving borderline emotions may seem that lacks empathy or care for the other party and will usually get out of the unsettling situation by either disregarding the cue at all or responding naturally to it (but will go through as an awkward response as wouldn't probably fit the social norm).

@abetancort thanks for that it was enlightening.