Sorry folks but this one didn't go well for Marvel. I don't even know where to start. Acting was average, more like below average. Screenplay was as much ordinary as it could be. No surprise here. CGI was OK but it's somehow expected from Marvel. But I totally didn't like the idea of Wakanda. Hidden city in the center of Africa with tons of technology and advanced weapons and systems and so on. But how the hell did they build all of that? No explanation. It just happened. Yes, they have Vibranium, but they don't sell it. In fact they never did and for whole world they are just a bunch of shepherds and farmers. So where did they take all that money to build empire like this? I don't like movies without explanations and this is one of them. Almost nothing has been told about Vibranium whatsoever. Oh yeah, it's some super thing from the universe capable of anything. That's all the explanation you get. There are too many clichés we have already seen too many times. And we have to see them again. One example: I challenge someone for a fight because I want to kill him. And when I have the chance to kill him, what would I do? Kill him or throw him down from the cliff to the water where he can survive? But enough. If you hesitate if to watch this, I can recommend not to waste your time. Wait for the Avangers where you can also see the Black Panther. You won't miss anything if you miss out this movie.
when the critics are using words like "masterpiece", and Den Of Geek is proclaiming that it sits at the top of the MCU, you know a movie is over hyped, and boy, is Black Panther over hyped. the movie is OK, but certainly nowhere near being a masterpiece, and definatly nowhere near the top of the MCU, not even close. Chadwick Boseman is boring and lacks charisma, the female characters are much more interesting. Killmonger is a boring villain, Klaue was much more interesting, but god forbid a white villain be given the spotlight over a black villain. do i care about the plight of black people around the world? yes, do i care about someone's skin colour? no, its not the reason i watch a superhero movie. people are hyping this up into the movie they want it to be, rather than the movie it actually is.
Another stunning and thouroughly entertaining movie from Marvel Studios who continue to gain momentum with each successive film. Delivering something new and original all within the framework of the same genre and universe.
A coming of age film of sorts that sees T'Challa return to his native Wakanda following the events of Captain America: Civil War to deal with the pressures of the thrown and fulfill his potential as both warrior and king, T'Challa and Black Panther alike. Thus being an origin adventure without the obligatory origin story.
Wakanda itself is visually breathtaking and looks as spectacular as one can imagine. Wakanda itself is an unofficial character in the film with a rich visual palette and identity. It's people, along with most visuals in the movie, are brightly coloured and looks like an.artists dream, as rich and colourful as the comics that spawned them.
All the principle and supporting cast bring it. There's hardly anybody that doesn't stand out or get a moment to shine in this deep ensemble, so much so that T'Challa himself is almost outdone in the movie by the performances of Michael B. Jordan (Erik Killmonger) and the female supporting characters who are so good, I'd be disappointed if they didn't at least cameo in Avengers: Infinity War in a few months.
Highly recommended for any fan of Marvel Studios' movies, Superhero movies or action adventures with hints of political.drama thrown in for good measure. Not to be missed.
I didn't know anything beforehand about the character but after that perfomance in Civil War and some of the casting news I'm very excited about this movie!
Without much surprise (but with much disappointment), the one word to describe Black Panther is: overhyped.
Black Panther in itself is not a really interesting superhero, but Marvel has proved in the past that it did not mean that the movie had to be dull. Captain America is even less interesting than Black Panther, but they managed to work around that by making the movies not about him but rather integrate them as a major plot arc in the MCU. No such thing here.
Actually the opposite, they tried to make it NOT a superhero movie. So you get your James Bond scene, your Fast and Furious scene, your Independance day scene, but not that many Marvel scenes. I think it lost its way by trying to look more blockbustery.
There are several good points, the movie isn't bad, it's just uninteresting. The whole middle half of the movie was actually boring.
The cast in general is good. The fight scenes are generally ok. The Wakanda city looks really impressive from afar. Too bad you never actually see it. Visually, everything is pretty neat (if you don't mind CGI everywhere, I don't).
Of the main characters, Shuri is definitively the more interesting. She's Bond's Q, but alot livelier and funnier. You also see her much more as you would another Q type character as she's also the main character's sister. Her role in Wakanda is huge. She seems to be the main engineer, urban designer, lead inventor, the vibranium reference expert, and all by herself as we never see anyone working in this huge lab. She seems also to be the person to go to when you need a doctor, instead of say, an hospital. That's maybe a little too much, but it's not like there are no equivalent in Marvel universe. Definitely would love to see her working with Stark and Banner.
The best character by far, although in a way too minor role, is Klaue. It seems he could have been one of the best villain of the whole MCU. Extremely original, fun, half crazy with a Joker-like vibe, every one of his scene was perfect. On a similar vibe, M'baku turned out to be a pretty cool vegetarian :) character.
So it sucked when he was quickly dispatched to be used as an entrance ticket to Wakanda. But Killmonger is actually a pretty cool antagonist too, obviously a lot less fun and original, but still. That is, if you totally ignore the ending where he turns out to be a little child crying on the inside that was just mean because he wanted his daddy and see a sunset in his homeland. COME ON ! Seriously ?? Way to fuck up an otherwise ok character.
The others are less interesting. Okoye is the cliche super loyal royal guard. Her husband sucks (what a waste of a good actor). Nakia is sold as an interesting character, but apart from picking up the plant, I don't think she does anything. Forest Whitaker plays Forest Whitaker as usual, a little less crazy, a little more mystical, but that's it. Martin Freeman's character looks like he could be interesting but firstly it's a little biased (because what character wouldn't be interesting with Martin Freeman ?) and secondly here he's mostly used to make the point that the token white guy should know to stay in his place when the black leads know best. I loved whrn it was mentioned that he was a foreign agent, with a duty to report what he saw, that's something that's usually blatantly ignored for plot reasons in this kind of situations. He wouldn't be a very good agent, or even person, if he didn't do his job. However, after that, nobody ever think of it again, least of all himself.
The plot, it can even be called that, was pretty weak. The intro scene looked cool. The whole Wakandian ceremonial stuff (which makes a huge part of the movie) is ridiculous. The casino scene was a rip-off of a rip-off of a Bond movie. The car chase was ok looking but boring. I kept waiting for the real story to start. The only time where a little story happens is when Killmonger takes power and Nakia and co go to find M'Baku. The final fight was ok, but a long way to be on level with other Marvels. The ID4 scene is totally out of place. The final duel is disappointing as it's in a full CGI place that's totally unadapted to make use of their powers.
There's a minor point about the place of Wakanda in the world, but it's just extremist protectionism, staying hidden not matter what, on one side, that goes directly to "let's conquer the whole world" on the other. Nobody seems to have though anything else about it until then.
A little plus: the kinetic energy absorption/emission added into the suit allows some really cool effects and fight actions, the only thing making it a little interesting. However he doesn't even use it against Killmonger when it's the one advantage his suit has over the other's. And what's the point of activating the train and the suit disabling thingie, they don't even fight once when it's on.
And a huge issue for me. I really don't buy Wakanda. Asgard actually makes more sense than Wakanda.1) First the obvious: nobody knows about it. So no neighbouring country ever tried to go there. And nobody saw any sign of it growing. Because it should have been already pretty huge by the time they invented a technology that allowed to cloak the entire country!
2) They have vibranium, sure. But they don't sell it or exchange with other countries. Which means they are also self sufficient on absolutely everything else.
3) They're total non interventionist. So war and famine in other african countries ? Nope. World wars with tens of millions of deaths ? Nope. An alien race attacks the planet and they're the only ones with an equivalent level technology ? Nope. What a bunch of assholes.
4) We have a nice view of arriving in Wakanda, and then that's it. We never see the city. Well there's a scene where they walk in small streets full of dust, but that hardly fit with the skyscraper's skyline. Why would they keep streets this way with their technology.
5) Even if technology evolved, it does not seem the society did. Lots of antiquated tribal rituals and decorum. The kind of stuff that a society that advanced should leave behind. I mean sure it's fun for children and costumes and the once in a while ceremony, but advanced society usually get rid pretty quickly of superstition and religious ceremonial bullshit. The most important point of that being:
6) They still haven't been able to figure out that maybe, just maybe, having two half naked guys fight to the death with spears on a waterfall is not the best way to choose a leader ? Also the king~god thing. Isn't that weird when everybody knows that it's just due to a technology that only the royals have access to ?
7) They still need to collect the heart shaped herb and crush it with a mortar ? They haven't found a way to extract the active element, industrialize it, even synthesize it as it's vibranium based ? Though they probably miraculously will now, as it's supposedly completely gone.
Storywise it's definitely the weakest of the MCU. Because it looks good and I really enjoyed Shuri and Klaue, I'd rank it slightly above Iron Man 2 and Thor 2, but the only other time I felt bored watching a MCU movie was the Captain America part of Civil War, and the first half more than made up for it. Not here.
The least entertaining of all the marvel movies.(including them things they had sold rights to in the 80s)Unfunny comedy bits, undramatic drama, lame lion king/James bond /tribal wars story. Distracting greenscreen sets and people compositing. Loads of gun & spear play, but the only blood seen is on the wounded. Those killed (including a mean neck slice) must all be bloodless robots.?
There's 2 end scenes: one in middle & one at end of the credits. Barely 30 seconds long..
not much of a marvel movie fan. they're generally shallow on story, dialogue and action creativity, which all but kills a movie for me. but they can have decent visuals and humor. black panther is pretty much the same result, but with a unique world that gives it a new feel. overall, not impressed.
I don't get it. All the shining reviews from critics and there is almost no film here. The cookie cutter scientific city, down to the stereotypical portrayal of African culture. The only thing going for it is the cast who do their best to drag the film along. Marvel Studios yet again refuse to let the audience do any thinking and have to spell everything out to you. I'm just glad I didn't have to pay for it as the tickets were free. The action is fast paced to the point you start to think "what even just happened?". I can suspend disbelief as far as I need to but it's impossible to believe in the suspense simply lacking in this film.
A letdown in what seemed to be the forever entertaining stream of Marvel movies. Everything about this plot was predictable and mostly un-entertaining. There were great parts to be sure, but overall I was severely underwhelmed.
Other Marvel movies with unoriginal writing at least had good, refreshing humor, and good acting. This lacked all of that. maybe 2 enjoyable parts to laugh at.
[8.1/10] Black Panther doesn’t have the aura of a Marvel Cinematic Universe film. Yes, it has the allies and enemies we’ve met in prior movies like Age of Ultron and Civil War. It has the jovial vibe among its main cast. And it has the mandatory, climactic third act battle, draped in CGI and the usual fanfare.
But it also stands apart from the rest of the MCU’s offerings. It is unabashedly Afrocentric in its focus and its approach. It is a plainly political film, meditating on the legacy of colonialism, the oppression of people of color around the world, and the push and pull of isolationism vs. global activism. Though squeezed into the standard, three act superhero structure, Black Panther takes its audience to a different space, one untouched by the rest of the world and, in some ways, untouched by the broader cinematic universe the film acts in concert with.
It is a uniquely, profoundly black take on the modern superhero film, one long overdue, if for no other reason than how it breathes new life into the familiar formula. There’s nothing wrong with comic book movies hitting certain standard notes of uncertainty, challenge, and self-realization. But Black Panther is a cinematic argument for broadening the franchise, showing the renewed, distinctive character these common stories take on, when they’re told from a fully-formed, confident, and different perspective.
That distinct atmosphere is the best thing about the film, alongside the clear camaraderie among its cast and characters. No hero is an island these days, and while the title character has a notable arc that’s done well, the most enjoyable portions of the movie emerge when the plot mechanics of that arc are set aside for Black Panther to chat, spark, and laugh with his tech-wiz sister Shuri (Letitia Wright), his altruistic ex Nakia (Lupita Nyong'o), and his fierce, principled guard Okoye (Danai Gurira). So much of these films depends on the chemistry and connection between the people the audience is asked to spend two hours with, and Black Panther soars on that front, building a rapport among those core characters that carries the day.
At the same time, Chadwick Boseman gives one of the best dramatic performances to grace a Marvel film. Thematically, the film centers on the notion of whether someone with a kind heart but also uncertainty about how and where to guide his people can be a good leader, and Boseman brings the inherent decency and heft to make these ideas land.
Black Panther constantly puts its title character between conflicting choices and impulses. T’Challa has to balance his inherent sense of mercy, shown to the leader of a challenging tribe, with his desire to deliver swift justice, shown when he threatens enemy of the state Ulysses Klaue in public. He has to reconcile his deep love for his father and his deep respect for his people’s traditions with his growing realizations that his forebears were men, not gods, who made mistakes, and that his homeland may need to change and evolve. He must square his country’s tradition of isolation, with the competing calls to share the nation’s wealth and knowledge in order to help those in need, or to use those resources to bring down the oppressors around the world who keep them in that state.
If there’s one area where Black Panther excels, it’s in creating a central character who’s pulled in multiple directions, on multiple dimensions, leaving him unsure what path to take and what sort of man to be, until the right direction is forged in fires of challenge and hardship. The film is a political story, a cultural story, a family story, and a personal story.
It’s just that Coogler and co-writer Joe Robert Cole seem not particularly interested in it being a superhero story. That’s not necessarily a problem. Films as tonally diverse as Logan and Deadpool have shown you can use the superhero framework to craft a multitude of different films with different approaches within the superhero framework. But there’s a sense in Black Panther that the comic book-y elements are perfunctory, that Coogler and Cole had a compelling story to tell about legacy, power, and obligation, couldn’t tell it without including the de jure superhero fireworks.
Black Panther is at its best when it shows its title character confronting his responsibilities as a citizen, son, and leader, or finding strength, challenge, and affection among his friends and family. And it’s at its weakest when it shows him punching and kicking those things in comic book movies that inevitably must be punched and kicked.
At times, Coogler and director of photography Rachel Morrison capture the same sort of raw intensity of combat that hews close to a boxing match from Creed. The close quarters combat of the challenges for leadership are tight and visceral, giving an immediate sense of the personalities clashing at the same time bodies are, and a digitally-stitched but nominally unbroken action sequence early in the film has the energy and fluidity of a splash page. But too often, the film’s fight sequences are a big jumble, edited to bits and nigh-impossible to follow from one blow to the next. Worse yet, the CGI is especially in these sequence -- digital characters move without weight, animated creatures and vehicles disrupt the immersion of a scene, and climactic fights between fully computer-generated figures in a computer-generated world feel like gameplay clips pulled from Mortal Kombat.
Despite the strength of the story that ends in that skirmish, the film ostensibly breaks little new ground in terms of its narrative. Notably, Marvel’s own Thor trilogy covers much of the same territory, from the prince questioning his place as king, to far off lands debating the appropriate level of engagement with the outside world, to unruly yet sympathetic relatives with an appetite to conquer angling for the throne.
But what makes Black Panther so refreshing is the perspective from which it approaches this material. There is a richness to the cultural wellspring that Coogler and his team draw from, one underutilized in big budget filmmaking. The film is rife with different hues, different pleasures and sore sports, that inform the movie’s sensibilities even as it applies them to the smash-and-then-find-yourself routine that the Marvel origin movies have nigh-perfected at this point.
It’s the critic’s crutch to see a film’s story as a metaphor for the film itself. And yet it’s hard not to see parallels between the story of T’Challa deciding to bring Wakanda into the rest of the world, and Coogler deciding to bring his Black Panther into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. One of the wonderful things about the MCU is the way that it can create a cohesive sense of place among different films, and foster the sense, through minor easter eggs and the occasional team-up, that all of these events are taking place in the same world.
But despite having a few of those continuity nods and connections, Black Panther feels like it occupies a world all its own, one full of its own color, character, and vibrancy. At the end of the movie, T’Challa opts for outreach, he decides to open Wakanda’s borders, and share his nation’s knowledge and culture with the world. With this film, Ryan Coogler & Co. do the same for Marvel, telling their own story in their own, but also bringing such a distinctiveness and a specificity to it that makes the world of these films a deeper, richer, better place for Black Panther’s presence within it.
Simply put, Black Panther is one of these films that include many things we love the most: the love, the culture, the bravery, the politics, the technologies, and above all, the exhilarating well-driven action that we love & cherish as it stands.
This did not live up to my expectations. This is just an average movie, to the point that is borderline bad. I would not recommend watching, unless you are super Marvel Fan or for continuity of the Marvel movies.
Story: Average. While there are some good aspect (e.g. superhero from Africa), with somewhat believable story of hidden country there, the rest of the story is just sub-par. Completely predictable, generic. The middle of the movie will bore you.
Characters: Below average. Again some positives (Ulysses Klaue, made me laugh), all other were just textbook, one-emotion/purpose shallow characters. Also some storyarcs that are supposed to have emotional climax, are just blank as there is not enough story/buy-in.
Acting: Generaly OK. As mentioned I liked Ulysses Klaue (Andy Sarkis), I also liked Okeye (Dania Gurira), but otherwise again just an average movie.
Visuals: Good. Something to be expected and the driver of the movie. I like that compared to other recent movies, the scenery does not change every 5 minutes. Also the African location is a nice change.
Music: Bad. Generic Marvel Universe music here again. Nothing memorable. The lack of good music is even distracting.
Other observation: 1. It is also a weird mix of other movies. There seemed to be a hint of a Bond movie (when they the Black Panther was preparing for an action) which did not sit well with me. Too similar.2. At some points the movie tried to be funny, but you could feel them failing.
Now Marvel has officially made a blaxploitation film.
And before some liberal goes on about me being an entitled heterosexual white male and thus racist, let's set it straight.
I love black characters done right. Spawn is one instance. Static is another. Static Shock the Animated Series is an amazing instance showing black communities, their problems, gang violence - and the good people trying to help.
Black Panther is another thing entirely.
It's self-serious and unfunny.It's ham-fisted in its message - using a stereotypical "African" accent just to nail in how "black" the characters are, and even the (quite terrible) song in the end sings "I hate people who feel entitled". The only white protagonist is referred to as "colonizer".There's no character buildup for the villains - so much that they might as well be cardboard cutouts.The mandatory strong independent female characters - remember, if you can only define a character as a "strong independent female", before defining who they are as a person, that is a comically bad character. As bad as the "testosterone-fueled bad-ass dude" and the rest of them.The CGI is cheap, the soundtrack is bland and not memorable.
It is a sad time when movies think of not offending the overly sensitive audience, instead of telling a good story.
Saw Black Panther last night and I definitely enjoyed it. It wasn't earth shatteringly good, but it was a very nice change-of-pace from the usual superhero movies, especially those coming from Marvel. The entire setting of Wakanda was just amazingly done and is honestly the real star of the film. Black Panther has got its whole own mythos, culture, and set of vibes/themes that really sets it apart from the rest of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I really dug the entire look and feel of the movie.
The story was pretty solid as well. Very-Shakespearean as others have described with family, betrayal, royalty, etc. I liked what they did in terms of the villain with Michael B. Jordan and how things progressed, but I feel like just a little something was missing in the last third of the movie or so. Perhaps the conflict could have allowed to develop a bit more intensely, and then we could have gotten a story that was truly special. Instead, we get a solid redemption story type thing at the end. I don't really know what could have been added or changed to the story (that's why I'm not directing a multimillion dollar movie), but I feel like something truly epic could have materialized (albeit time restraints are a real thing as well).
Anyway, Black Panther was still a great movie, and very much part of its own universe. I actually liked this path that Marvel took for Black Panther by limiting the Marvel cameos and trailers/lead-ins to other movies as much as possible, and rather focusing on the characters and people of THIS movie. It's kind of like the opposite of what happened with Spider-man: Homecoming. Definitely go and try to check this movie out. if you can get a ticket... :P
Black Panther is incredible -- a must see. It's complex and layered in both its characters and the problems at hand, which are dealt with wonderfully. This is easily one of the best marvel movies of all time. I'm glad to have booked tickets to see it a second time. The first time is an experience and the second to let the story wash over me.
Black Panther is the Marvel version of any PornHub video titled "Black dick fucks very tight white pussy"
No, but... really... this movie was the eye-candiest of them all.There is NO objection whatsoever (from me) about this.
The picture was SYMMETRICAL PERFECTION. Color palette was ORGASMIC. Everything that is related to visuals was a 10/10.
Some of the shots were straight up MAJESTIC. The camera angles, the production, the way everything is placed was on point.It was so mesmerizing at some point it looked like Wakanda actually existed. The culture so vivid, so beautifully crafted and mixed to real life beautiful african culture.
Music, perfectly mixed between traditional african and current african-american. DRUMS! DRUMS ALL THE TIME!It was not a bland, glorification of the relation between black people and hip-hop music. It was a perfect and ear-gasmic balance of the two.
But... but, but but... it does fall short, and it's mainly because of movie scripting.
The story finds some difficuly into forging itself into something that is unique. You can clearly see the tentative but it does fail, it's not your simple superhero movie story, but it's not even a big sociological message, it's a weird combination of the two, at times wrongly mixed and neither one of them actually leaves you with the feeling the movie is actually over, it needs more. The part between the start and the end was a hit and a miss.
What this movie did horribly wrong - despite all previous Marvel movies - was the comedic part of it.And you could really tell after you get to see a "Vine meme" inside a major feature film. All it needed for me to be completely disappointed was a "Deez nuts" joke. Gladly, Marvel is owned by Disney.
At the end of the day, for peace of mind, it was a very pleasurable experience and it deserves to be seen.
Still, my Marvel movie leaderboard - of which not a single one of you give a fuck about - is completely untouched.
Marvel Has Delivered With Black Panther - An Ensemble Of Amazing Actors Bringing Wakanda And The Black Panther Story To Life - Chadwick Boseman Is Now A Marvel Living Legend Just As Big As Iron Man & Robert Downey Jr With His Portrayal Of Black Panther. Never A Dull Moment, They Set The Standard High For Such A Rich Story, Now To See What Avengers:Infinity Has In Store.
So Many Marvel Movies To Look Forward To!!
Very good movie, but insanely overrated.
Beautiful people trying to save a paradise. First and foremost this movie is a superhero backstory movie. I had to keep this in mind because I was distracted and put off by poorly written, undeveloped sub-themes. As much as it presented itself as African proud, a hidden culture built on science, technology and the idea of supercities, cloaked under rural Africa, there were constant failed attempts to connect these characters to the American Black experience, so much so they lost track of their own backstory. For example, toward the end of the movie there is a moment when a sympathetic villain thinks he is about to die and he defiantly says, something to the effect of, "throw me into the ocean as so many of my ancestors chose to die rather than to live in bondage!" This character's ancestors were never enslaved and shipped to America, his father went from a palace to America as a spy, and, he himself was an offspring of an aristocratic super society. So I hope you won't be distracted, as I was, from the driving force of the film which is the rise of a superhero, a celebration of heroism, strength and justice - the anthem of superheros. I believe there is inspiration In seeing people, who look like you, behaving nobly, and, so, I am glad to see a movie with a talented black cast telling super human stories. The acting was good, the CGI was spectacular as were the action scenes. The cast had many superstars, (British Martin Freeman, our token white person, playing a rough, tough CIA operative was remarkably convincing). I enjoyed the action adventure of the movie and the world it created. Beautiful people, beautiful production, adventure, action - I give this movie a 6 (fair) out of 10.
I was impressed with how well-made this movie was. The storytelling was tight, the production was sleek and the acting was great. Like the Captain America films, the plot was very political, and made me care about the supporting characters. What makes this Marvel’s best film is that you could clearly feel that there was an outstanding filmmaker behind it committed to making an elite movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
An excellent and entertaining movie, well acted and beautifully directed. Wakanda looked amazing and the action sequences were spectacular. Everything you want in a superhero movie.
One of the greatest movies of this 10 years of Marvel Studios. It just feels so mature, it's a superhero movie with a problem we all can relate and a badass villain we actually can understand. The cast was brilliant, and I love the way they portrayed wakanda. It's beautiful, it's vibrant, it shows culture and tradition in a way I never saw marvel doing. And they nailed the soundtrack! I mean, Kendrick Lamar and all the artists did an amazing job and I was very pleased to see the music from the album being played throughout the movie (specially "Opps". What a track, what a scene!)
Also, Black Panther is a better Civil War movie than "Civil War". And the scene with the fight for the throne was SO TENSE. I was actually worried about T'Challa losing and Killmonger taking the throne. The plot was great and it got me more involved than any other marvel movie except, perhaps, for Winter Soldier.
Overall, I can't wait to see more from Wakanda and its characters.
"I Never Freeze" - Fave quote
This was a fun movie, a slower pace than usual but masterfully made. The action was designed nicely without the usual mashup of non stop explosions we have come to expect. The story evolves naturally and introduces the character we only briefly saw in Civil War. Unlike most Marvel movies this told the story of many battles; the outside world, Wakanda tradition and inner necessities for the greater good. I'm eager to see what Tony Stark will do with the Vibranium if he manages to get his hands on it in a future movie!
Easily one of the best Marvel films to date. The underlying message of the film is not hard to miss. Great acting. Excellent storytelling.
One of Marvel's strongest films. Due to a terrific cast, solid performances, great action, good villain and just being a strong film for Black History month. During watching a lot felt like a new path and something different from Marvel. However, it did dawn on me afterwards that we have seen similar villains as N'Jadaka (Michael B. Jordan). I mean Jordan is great but I did get Loki and Maximus (Inhumans) vibes. Of the usual "boo hoo, it should be my throne!" While Martin Freeman's Everett K. Ross feels like the new Phil Coulson. Since apparently on tv Coulson is alive on tv but considered dead and buried still in the movies. If that makes sense. The stand out performances are by Chadwick Boseman, Letitia Wright, Michael B. Jordan, Daneil Kaluuya of Get Out and of course Andy Serkis and Forrest Whitaker. Wright is just adorable as Black Panther's tech girl sister. Jordan is badass. Serkis has some good side villain scenes. Whitaker is always good, well don't count Battlefield Earth. While Kaluuya I think shows more range as an actor here than Get Out. I liked him in this more where he is trying to figure out who's side he is on. Due to being disappointed by Black Panther's failed efforts to bring Serkis' character to justice. After Infinity Wars, we could see Black Panther take over the Avengers I think. Since the future of Captain, Iron Man and even Thor is unclear after Infinity Wars it is rumored. This film proves, that might not be a bad thing. Even if we will miss those characters and actors terribly.
I see myself losing track of how many times I rewatch it. Wakanda Foreeeever!
The most exciting battle of the film was how politically correct it was (and not just concerning the African heroes - it also took on the ideas of social responsibility and feminism, where each female character was strong, intelligent and independent). Black Panther easily won this war and ushers in an exciting new age where we don't think of a film as being 'politically correct', we think of it simply as 'correct'.
As for the Marvel super hero movie aspect...meh. This wasn't the worst, but is far from the best with its routine fight scenes and long stretches of waiting for a routine fight scene.
It's times like this that I wish Trakt had a .5 system. At times the film is very good, exciting, and visually stylish. At other times, it's a little slow and cliched. Still, I am upping my score because it does do a lot of things new, despite the odd cliche, and Black Panther is quite unlike any of the Marvel heroes we have yet seen. The way Marvel continues to add fresh themes and styles to their movies is something DC needs to learn from. Definitely a good movie then, but don't expect the explosive action found in other films in this series. And that, perhaps, is a good thing!
Black Panther is an explosion of African culture and brings something fresh and vibrant to the Marvel universe.
The film is a beautiful treat offering stunning visuals which supports the exceptionally-acted ensemble cast and each element of the film only elevates it, whether it be costume design, score or soundtrack etc. The film’s hero (Chadwick Boseman) and villain (Michael B. Jordan) were standouts for me, immersing the audience in the battle over Wakanda, offering excellent discussion points and what is right and what is wrong. Themes are intertwined within the story at an exceptional fashion and really help to make the movie stand-alone, which other superhero movies fail to do.
It’s a great Marvel movie, veering away from generic stories, and it’s a great movie across the board.
Hot bald warrior chicks still not enough to leave my phone alone and pay attention
Disgustingly commodified faux-radicalism perfectly weighed by marketing specialists
Bom elenco, bem roteirizado, pode ter indicação para o Oscar 2019.
T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) is a character that had a wonderful introduction in Captain America: Civil War. A graceful presence in that film, his revenge mission and the way he acted about it, with his seemingly calm and collected point of view, turned him into an interested new addition to that film and the MCU. After this, I felt I wasn’t really in need of another origin story, or a story that generally felt like a “character beginning”.
With that in mind, I think Black Panther was the ideal film for where we are right now with the MCU. Rather than a beginning, it continues T’Challa’s story almost directly from where we left off, but with a particular focus on bringing us into Wakanda and showing us what the destination has to offer… which is a lot. Hidden in plain sight (and appropriately referred to as “El Dorado” once in the film), it’s an absolutely stunning metropolis filled with incredibly advanced technology which apparently extends to all aspects of life.
What made the Wakandans interesting for me was the fact that they don’t show some sort of “sci-fi” character behaviour despite the futuristic advancements. Society remains deeply rooted into traditions, which is shown predominantly through the process of succession to the throne with the challenges presented to the heir. Aspects of daily life in the city appear to be “normal” enough, creating a rather unique blend of the most advanced technologies on Earth with present-day mentalities and cultures (such as their clothing/body features). It’s the ultimate in representation within a word heavy on science fiction.
The film has the necessary tie-ins you would expect, which are not too many so that it can exist and sustain itself on its own legs (personally, I couldn’t say the same for Spider-Man: Homecoming, for instance). Other than our hero, we have the return of Ulysses Klaue (Andy Serkis) as a secondary antagonist, having more importance here than in his previous appearances; and Everett Ross (Martin Freeman) echoing our eyes within Wakanda.
I suppose the biggest issue the film deals with is the hidden status of Wakanda. Though the majority of its citizens agree with it remaining hidden (and so it has been since the very beginning of the Vibranium development), others support revealing everything to the world, with the argument that all the advancements can be used to the benefit of black people across the globe as a weapon against oppression. In the middle of this, we have the main villain, Killmonger (Michael B. Jordan), eager to allow Wakanda to become public as soon as he gets his hands (or claws) on the throne. The backstory and reasoning behind his actions turn him into a more compelling villain than a lot of previous, MCU villains.
Given the importance of following traditions set by ancient tribes, this works in their detriment, as Killmonger (which sounds better than “Iron Monger”) could simply swoop in, take over and immediately make decisions that affect everyone despite hundreds of years of history – it’s pure dictatorship, yet you can’t help but see his perspective as someone who was wronged by the Wakandans and their laws when he was but a small child. Now, after a life of war, all he does is use those very same laws against the ones who have been upholding them for centuries. The tensions created were good to watch, although the support Killmonger received from a whole sector of Wakanda came way too easily. Yes, it’s hard to argue against efficiency when Killmonger simply waltz in with Klaue’s body, something two Kings haven’t been able to accomplish – but I disliked how W’Kabi (Get Out’s Daniel Kaluuya) went from being T’Challa’s friend and supporter to fiercely opposing all about him within seconds.
Something very strange about Black Panther is that despite being a superhero movie with the titular character, it feels more like “Wakanda: The Movie”. And something I did feel was that after roughly a third of the film goes by, it feels like T’Challa somehow loses protagonism. In hindsight, other than some visually great fight scenes, I didn’t feel like there was something that specifically singled out T’Challa as the main character other than being “the heir”. What I mean is, as good as he was as Black Panther, I didn’t feel like he had enough moments to really shine – if anything, all characters surrounding him outshone him when Wakanda was in trouble. I think I was left with a more lasting impression of the character after Civil War than here, despite really liking the film.
Overall, I was happy. The only aspect I disliked, which I almost didn’t want to bring up, were the Disney comedy bits. I know at this point we just have to deal with it as it isn’t really something that goes away… but that comedy takes me out of the film instantly. Maybe there weren’t as many as in other films and I didn’t really mind the funny scenes with the sister – I’m not opposed to the designated “funny character” – but to me the rest were cringeworthy, such as M’Baku’s jokes (Winston Duke, who was Dominic in Person of Interest!!) after T’Challa was healed, which just felt off-character to me. But well, I suppose the majority of audiences respond well to it (in my viewing everyone was laughing their ass off).
Black Panther will return in Avengers: Infinity War... guess it’s time to wait once more!
Easily one of the best marvel films of all time !
Excellent, this is the best movie of MCU
Different than a typical superhero movie and in a good way. Refreshing to see a superhero mainstream movie featuring and made mostly by people of colour.
Doesn’t preach(most of the time) and is fun to watch.
no words, but this: best marvel movie. by far.
Good casting. Good acting. Decent story. But way too much stylistically that was straight out of Disney and even Star Wars, especially in the first act. It was enough to pull me out of the story at times when it was particularly blatant. Also, the CGI was consistently good except for the green screen scenes with a nature background, at which point it was consistently bad. In short, this was a decent Marvel outing that ended up being a bit disappointing because all of the hype had really raised my expectations. I will surely like it more the next time that I watch it since I'll be approaching things from a more realistic frame of reference.
I don't even have a data cap but this was a waste of 12GB
es la mejor pelicula del mundial de Disney de Marvel de dc
"Did he freeze?"
So this is kinda late since the hype for Marvel's latest entry is slowly dying down, until 'Infinity War' hits and everything else will be history. Black Panther is a good movie, but sadly not a great one. There's a lot of great things about it and boy was it a joy to watch. The problems on the other hand aren't something to overlook.
Ryan Coogler is an excellent director with his previous work on 'Fruitvale Station' and Creed''. While I think he stumbled a bit with this movie since it's a much bigger movie and the studios breathing down his neck, but at least brought a brand new hero in style.
Chadwick Boseman is a great actor and the portrayal of T’Challa/Black Panther was pretty good. I do think he got overshadowed by everyone else, mostly from the supporting actors. After the death of his father, T’Challa goes through a dilemma when being face with taking over the throne and rule his land. However, not once do you feel his struggle and wasn't presented as a challenge. If I have to be honest, he was more interesting in 'Civil War'. Still this is just the beginning for him. Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira, and Letitia Wright all three serve as supporting characters, but in reality are what glues the movie together and really hold their own in this big budget movie. Even Andy Serkis and Martin Freeman hold their own as well.
Michael B. Jordan as Killmonger is the best villain in the MCU so far. What makes him so compelling to watch isn't because he wants to take over the world or has any magical powers. Just like the Joker, you can't disagree with his arguments of honesty and truth, which is best served cold. Not saying Killmonger is up there with the Joker as the best, but pointing out an example of what separates him from bland. I'm glad Marvel is improving.
The villain problem being solved isn't just one thing, but the score as well. Taking influences from Africa cultural for it's score. Having a little touch of 'The Lion King' in the mix. I liked the technological side of Wakanda and how it blends with the costume designs which had a unique presentation. From any other superhero franchises out there, this is the most refreshing in terms of style. I'm starting to see a difference now.
For problems: The fight scenes are either too dark or anything memorable. Maybe both. The visual effects were shockingly bad and looked unfinished. There wasn't a single frame that I would call 'good'. Looking like cut scenes from an old video game. Wakanda itself didn't feel like a real place in this cinematic universe, because I'm just assuming there only used two build sets for the movie (that's not CGI), where you see characters walk around a street on repeat.
There's literally a scene in this movie where a character yells "what are those!" and I almost sunk into my seat from cringe. The plot is predictable, like most Marvel movies. There's a fake out death that lasts for 10 minutes, acting like they are gone forever. The reason why this doesn't work is not once do you buy into it and since it's a major character who's going to be in 'Avengers Infinity War', if you've seen the trailer.
Overall rating: Just a reminder, I enjoyed the movie a lot and I don't hate it. Heck, just forget what I just said right now. This is just another home run for Marvel and there's nothing stopping them. I mean, it's been 10 years guys, like wow.
The most overrated piece of crap I have ever seen in my entire life!
I love the Concept of the Movie I Love the empowerment of it The Action Was Great It was VERY Enjoyable Now I know the movie focus on building up the black panther and I think they Lacked A Villian Character Build up the story was good for Michael B Jordan but in all honesty He wasn't convincing Enough and His Character Lacked but overall Great Movie that I would Watch Repeatedly.
the film's good, but i'm now officially confirmed that superhero/action movies are not my type. the film got me at its first half where wakanda and african tribes' culture were introduced,includings their rituals, costumes, sounds and music. But the rest, like I said, is good but no. They have to do better than that to impress me, one who never sets high hopes for action genre.P/S: like everyone has said, the storyline is that good.
This movie is absolutely amazing!!The effects, the soundtrack, the dialogs, the traditions. Everything was awesome.The characters are incredible. I felt all kind of emotions with them.I'm glad we will be able to see more of Wakanda on Marvel's world.Well done! #WakandaForever
Claps and claps!! Best marvel movie ever!! Even better than my previous favorite one, winter soldier. This is how you change the entire game for superhero movies. Everything about black panther is great and iconic. Best marvel villain. And the perfect mix between action, drama and comedy moments. The entire cast has great chemistry together and everything works. For me, now there is before and after black panther. It deserves all the success and praise out there!!
This goes right up on my favorite Marvel movie list.
A really good comic book movie. A lot of great action, some laughs, a unique musical score, cool scenery, awesome costume design and a fantastic setting. Wakanda is one of the best things about the movie, it feels so unique I want to see a lot more.
Michael B. Jordan steals the show. Killmonger is one of the best MCU villains and you can sympathize with him. Chadwick Boseman was also great. All the leading ladies (Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira and Letitia Wright) were great because they not only gave great performances, their characters were powerful and meaningful. Definitely want to see it again.
EDIT: I enjoyed this more a second time. Its really unique aesthetics make it stand out from the normal comic book movies. Shuri is still great and I want more of her in Infinity War.
1 / 2 directing & technical aspect0 / 1 story1 / 1 act I0 / 1 act II1 / 1 act III1 / 1 acting1 / 1 writing0 / 1 originality0 / 1 lasting ability to make you think
0 / 1 misc
5 out of 10
Boring stop seeing after 30 min.
Mais uma grande obra do mundo da Marvel.
Average movie. Couldn't watch in one, took 3 attempts to get through the movie. Not Marvel's best.
It's not the perfect Black Panther movie, but it's a damn fine one. It's engaging with a great set of characters, cool fight sequences, and strong arc for the lead. It's another one of Marvel's top tier introduction films. Loved they way Wakanda was realized, it was even cooler and more inventive than I had what's pictured. It also features one of the best villains the MCU has had yet. Never thought in my lifetime we'd get a big budget, respectful Black Panther movie, but here we are. What a time to be alive!
Everything is happening to damn fast!
An okay movie but way too overhyped with some corny acting and plot.
We wuz Kangs, the movie.Action scenes were at least fun to watch.
The most racist movie I have seen.
The Black Panther is a fun romp, but it definitely has some issues. First, the good.
The action is fun, the emotions hit home, and the story isn't dirt-poor.
While the CGI gets ripped on from time to time, I thought it was solid enough for a Marvel movie. The fight scenes were relatively well-choreographed, as well. The ritual combat scenes were exciting and visually appealing. The fights in Korea were also fun to see, and while I'm not a fan of car chase scenes as a whole, I did enjoy this one. It was reminiscent of a James Bond movie.
In fact, that's another appeal, at least to me. The secret technology base and the fun action scenes were a great callback to James Bond-type movies. I do think the movie would have been complemented by giving T'Challa a similar vice as Bond's, although Marvel probably wouldn't veer down that line for the seemingly morally absolute King of Wakanda.
The story, well, it's a mixed bag. Everything seemed crammed together with major emotional keys being rushed through or somewhat ignored. The concept is fine though. A long lost relative comes to challenge the new king, wins, and shows his colors, becoming something amoral. The king comes back and takes down the usurper, realizing something about themselves/their kingdom in the process. It's tired, but not so tired it damages the movie.
This is where the issues begin to rise, though. The movie is really a movie and a half or two movies crammed into one. Wakanda has a ton of wonderful mythology, but almost none of it is explained. The movie never really explains how the Wakandans used vibranium was used to make themselves wealthy. It touches on it in some exposition, but there was much more that was just glossed over.
In addition, W'Kabi became radicalized by Killmonger much too quickly for such a pivotal relationship to flip. Some of the emotional aspects of the movie fell flat because they weren't given enough screen time.
Despite its flaws, Black Panther is a fun movie that adds to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It should have been two movies, but I doubt this is the last we'll see of Wakanda.
It doesn't further the main story any, just serve as filler content till Infinity war. speaking of, no avengers, no new stones, no new info, no point watching.....
Had a great time watching this, sollid story
Good movie for small kids, no more, no less. Don't expect much and you wont be disappointed.
I love how the culture is represented! The movie shows the Wakanda culture in an astonishing and beautiful way! Every beautiful colour, music and way of the African people is perfectly represented here! Astonishing! Watching this movie you cannot not love the tradition and manners of the culture shown here! It makes me want to see more of this beautiful world of Africa!
Marvel has once again proven that they make the best movies! The plot was full and well expressed! The actors had the perfect chemistry! The characters were complex and well played!
The problem with movies with big names actors and legacies to fill is that the director and the writers focus on the characters building and forget the story. Marvel does not have this problem. They build the story and then they make the characters the best they can be in the story and this is what makes them great!
There are people that are unhappy that Marvel dominates every time they release a movie, but the truth is that the MCU release quality like none other! As a lover of movies, I am happy that there are so great movies like The Black Panther. Hollywood movies makers should stop whining that Marvel dominates the market and focus on giving us worth-while movies. This way there will be nothing to complaining about! Stop being cowards and rise to the challenge!
P.S.: This way the audience will have to choose between more than one great movie when going to the cinema!
So Marvel can still do something else than sitcoms.
Is it perfect ? Not by a long shot. But at least it is watchable, even entertaining if you don`t look too deep. I liked it up to the point where that Killmonger guy took over. From that moment the plot became predictable in an instant. Speaking of Killmonger, way too clichéd. That "Let the opressed of the world rise against their leaders with me as their king" routine is kinda overcooked. Andy Serkis talent is wasted on that brain dead armsdealer.For the first Black Panther stand alone this was OK. Not outstanding but a hell lot better than the latest Spiderman and Thor. Enough to want me to watch another one. But what is it with that accent. I knew people from Africa and not one of them spoke like that.
This film got a lot of credit, my point of view it's been overrated, wasn't has good as reviews, ratings that it made but over all because of It's action, effects and Its cast performances it was entertaining, a good film and had a different feel too all the other MCU movies.
I liked the movie, but it's highly overrated, just like Wonder Woman. The story was pretty predictable and felt a bit too long because of that.
Third viewing. Still just as incredible. Started crying when the credits were rolling. I didn't even know I was capable of feeling that many different emotions at once.
This movie was better than expected
i found this movie so predictable it lacked interest; also all the tech is really unbelievable (i know marvel likes to add this kond of storylines but doesn't work)
It was a fun movie. It gives you an understanding of Black Panther, his family and Wakanda.
It will be key for the way Infinity War is being shaped up for.
Movie was fantastic great acting, i would watch it again
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after read most of these comments. it's clear ppl are close minded. I seen person say marvel was focused on making this a "black" film. Now if they did... how many "black" super hero's are there? falcon nor war machine don't have a single movie. iron man has 3 captain america has 3 thor has 3 hulk has 2. This is the first Movie of a BLACK hero and now were focused on the marvel cinematics. i love marvel movies and this could of been better in some way's but for ppl to say its the worst or it's kinda racist. How about we list the other black hero's that have a solo movie? Luke cage was a nextflix series.
Black Panther is like Marvel, DC, Star Trek and Game of Thrones all married each other and had a child. A little bit of each to make it the best there is.
This movie is oddly racist.
I absolutely loved it! Yes, at times the storyline was predictable, but everything from the visual effects to the characters were amazing.
this movie gets a 4/10 rating from me.
Marvel spent to much energy trying to make this a "Black" movie and not trying to make it a great Marvel movie.
My Main reason for disliking this film is it had nothing to do with the marvel cinematic universe storyline... They could have skipped this movie all together and no one would miss it
In some parts of the film it's INCREDIBLY BORING but i guess it's my fault i mean who the fuck would be attracted to a black panther's film?????
definitely one of the best marvel movies out there. incredible cast and direction, the visuals are great, it actually made me feel for the villain. really loved it
Superb acting and special effects. Story and character motivations seem to fall a little flat. Still highly enjoyable, though.
Der etwas andere Marvel Film. Top Setting,bin auf eine Vortsetzung gespannt
Absolutely fantastic. I thought I was going in with unrealistic expectations but Black Panther turned out to be that good. Best Marvel film ever and definitely gonna make it to my list of personal favorite films. Excellent writing. Beautifully complex and sympathetic villain while still clearly remaining a villain, lots of strong supporting characters, and a good-hearted, heroic, yet flawed main character. This is a story that stays with you.
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First of all, I loved Black Panther so much. I'm sure you've heard many times so far how extraordinary it was for a Marvel movie, I don't want to tell you one more time. I just tell you what my perceptions were in good and in bad ways as well.
Wakanda is an imaginary country. Firstly, because this place obviously doesn’t exist. Secondly, because it's a unique way how African-Americans think about Africa nowadays. I mean under that they still have bad feelings and fear about how the colonists have exploited them for their rich natural sources and have divided the continent many dependencies. So the reason why they want to stay isolated for everything and everyone is totally acceptable. They own a high technology now which is wanted to keep for themselves. All in all, they absolutely don't want become victims again.
We can agree Killmonger was the best Marvel villain or at least he's in the top 3. He has a rightful reason behind his motives, and what he wants to accomplish. His hatred toward the people of Wakanda is well-established, because the former Black Panther basically made him orphan, and abandoned him, which clearly caused him serious trauma. Then, he's kept his whole life in wars, which made his judgment worse.
Also absolutely amazing they've kept their ancient rituals besides their technological development, which had some issues in my opinion. On the one hand, because it seemed so stereotypical but that wasn't the main reason. The rules of these rituals weren't crystal clear to me. How the descendent of the king is succeeded on the throne. At first blink I thought the king's first born son is the one, who follows him on the throne that's why T'Chala's came back to Wakanda. Then, pursuant to a ritual, he had to conquer of his challengers. Wasn't clear to me there is some law for dealing with these kind of questions. These two ideas are just in collusion.However, this didn't ruin the experience.
Actually one of the better run time films of the Marvel Universe, it still holds just a touch too much exposition for a rather straightforward adventure. Two great villains in this movie and why did these succeed when so many MCU villains don't work? Because they make it personal. When a villain just wants to take over the world, you don't connect. When the motive is revenge or greed, it works better. That's why Loki and Vulture worked and some of the more generic villains do not. This movie had great action set pieces, neato gadgets, and plenty of visual pop...one of the better cinematography examples in the genre. I wouldn't want to try 3D with this, though, because the cave/underground scenes and the black costumes at night might not work so well. Worth the viewing. 8/10
Do I have to love it cause I'm black? No! I have seen better superhero movies but it was one of Marvels best ones. Good set up movie for the Infinity war big bang.
I liked it, it's good that not to discover your powers and start using them, Wakanda looks fantastic. Shuri is a stealing scene as they said and the bad one is fine. 2 post-credit scenes
It is a bold movie. Great actors. The villain actually has a point
I enjoyed the move very much overall.Great choreography, amazing visual design and that soundtrack was fantastic.Unfortunately for me I found the plot predictable, and the villain not very deep.I also noticed some glaring CGI issues.
I liked the movie. It emerged us in the African culture. However I think it is a little bit too political for my taste. I want to go to the movies and forget about all the politics we hear all day long. Apart from that - stunning visuals. And Black Panther's sister stole the show! This movie was mainly to introduce the character but there were enough action scenes which were unique and visually stunning. I saw the 3D movie few days ago but I wouldn't recommend the 3D. There was very little to justify the ticket price. However I would recommend seeing it in an IMAX or Dolby Theater. The score was good as well.
A good movie,have been waiting for it.
Movie and story was great! Really enjoyed it. The movie is action packed and there are some funny parts in it to, although the comedy doesn't come close to Homecoming. I enjoyed it, but there was something that was a bit off. Can't explain what it is but I didn't enjoy it as much as the other Marvel movies. Maybe it's because this one is a bit more about building the story around the Black Panther... I do recommend it! O, and don't forget about the two post cinematics!
Can't wait to see how they are going to work advertisements into Wakanda. And if Stan Lee pops up in black face I'm done!