The most racist movie I have seen.
Can't wait to see how they are going to work advertisements into Wakanda. And if Stan Lee pops up in black face I'm done!
It had its moments, but it was a swing and miss.
Trash full of politically correct discusting
Black Panther is MCU attempt at saying something important but it ended up as a very superficial product tapping into the zeitgeist of black empowerment only at skin deep. MCU movies seem to touch the feelings of a many kind of people regardless of age and culture, and that's why their products trying to tackle difficult subject like colonialism and racism, such as Black Panther, fail as a movie. They're close to saying something yet they have to appeal to audience as broad as possible that they ended up not saying anything at all.
In this film they wanted to take a jab at colonialism, racism and all but they also have to play it safe so it ends up with the black guy winning because of good heart but didn't say anything at all about how Western development aid has turned Africa for the worse. "Colonialism" only ends up as a catchy buzzword for the characters to shout at the white dudes. The antagonist seemed to want to do "the right thing" but ended up as a power hungry lord because of "bad heart". The problem of colonialism/structural racism is simplified into "we have to make peace with the rest of the world" like in the ending scene when T'Challa "open borders". Really, structural violence can be ended with a good heart? Very safe liberal take about colonialism. They only wear this black empowerment stuff in surface level only, perhaps due to their limited liberal understanding of violence or perhaps in fear of hurting the ego of some fragile white manchildren which they have to cater to. Compared to The Mission or especially The Expanse, Black Panther fails to say anything about colonialism.
Similarly, their portrayal of "good Africa" ends up with Wakanda having high tech, sleek white aesthetic just like in typical Western vision of tech, some cool kids tinkering with stuff so it appeals to startup geeks, and some pseudo-African tribal-esque motif that's familiar enough to be recognized by Africans but foreign enough to the rest of the world so that it doesn't convey the more indigenous parts of Africans, such as their kinship system (e.g. different familial structure, motifs). In the world of Wakanda, people just happen to be there, strolling, tribal but modern people doing their tribal but modern thing (like ritualistic battle to decide a leader). They're playing the classic orientalist trope people usually put on Japan: being "traditional" and "modern" at the same time, at the receiving ends of Western culture but still molding them into their own. There's nothing indigenous Africa in Wakanda - it's just how Western people imagine if they created Africa in their own image. The world-building is horrible. Compared to Altered Carbon, the world of Wakanda is the world of purely distilled sterile version of United States that just happen to be set somewhere not-in-the-USA with black folks doing some cool American but also tribal-ish stuff.
In short, MCU won't be able to be complex because of the exact reason many people like it. It has to appeal to audience as many as possible. It has to be "universal", not culturally specific, not having a certain strong message. They have to figure out the safest way of telling a story and keeping the childlike feeling alive.
Their only saving grace is some cool cinematic shots of Michael B. Jordan and Chadwick Boseman. Good performance also. But that's it.
I don't get it why is this movie so overrated. It's just another basic marvel movies with black cast, but it won Oscar, really?!
One of the worst movies in the entire MCU, mostly due to the script. And lets face it: the story isn't really the strongest point of any Marvel movie... but in this case it's really, terribly bad.
Let me start at the beginning. Why is Wakanda special? Well, you see, there was a meteorite made of vibranium, which is the strongest metal in the universe. M'kay.... So what? You can make better weapons and stronger armor, maybe build a shiny statute or something... and that's pretty much it. How does a "strong metal" allow you to develop advanced computers, futuristic weapons, or any of that stuff? Let alone "merging with the local flora" and creating a magical flower that grants you superpowers. No. Just NO.
You see, I'm all for fiction, and magic, and whatnot. I love the Harry Potter franchise. Even within the MCU, Doctor Strange and his mystical magic thingies were alright. If you make a movie where you accept that magic exists, then it exists and there is nothing to argue about. It's fiction and it's ok. But that's not the case here. There isn't supposed to be magic in Wakanda. No. They gave us a realistic explanation, "a meteorite". Only that explanation is completely garbage, and an insult to any person with half a brain.
By the way, while we are on the meteorite topic: how big of a meteorite are we talking here? Too small and you won't have enough vibranium to build a civilization; too big and you wipe all life on Earth... which apparently didn't happen, in fact it didn't even wipe the forest where it fell. So... pretty small, then? But it can't be, because the arms dealer stole "a quarter ton" of vibranium and that was only a small reserve of it...
Also, if it's made of the strongest material, how come it broke into a million pieces when it crashed into dirt and stone? :rolling_eyes: I know, I'm too knitpicky, but come on, it's only been 2 minutes of movie and look the amount of stupid facts I've been already forced to swallow. Anyway... lets move on, there are still another 134 minutes to enjoy!
They are the richest country in the world but they keep everything to themselves? No wonder Trump people and Fox liked the movie. It's the opposite of inclusive or kind. The reasoning given for their behavior appears righteous and doesn't appear to be true. It seems to be rationalizing bad behavior. Behavior otherwise seen as awful in the real world.
It isn't clear if this is or isn't an authoritarian regime either. We know it's a monarchy with silly rules for who leads.
The "good guys" could easily be seen as bad guys. There's likely destitute people all around the outside of their advanced beyond first world country. That's messed up.
Worst marvel so far, unless your black
Superb acting and special effects. Story and character motivations seem to fall a little flat. Still highly enjoyable, though.
Claps and claps!! Best marvel movie ever!! Even better than my previous favorite one, winter soldier. This is how you change the entire game for superhero movies. Everything about black panther is great and iconic. Best marvel villain. And the perfect mix between action, drama and comedy moments. The entire cast has great chemistry together and everything works. For me, now there is before and after black panther. It deserves all the success and praise out there!!
The least entertaining of all the marvel movies.(including them things they had sold rights to in the 80s)
Unfunny comedy bits, undramatic drama, lame lion king/James bond /tribal wars story. Distracting greenscreen sets and people compositing. Loads of gun & spear play, but the only blood seen is on the wounded. Those killed (including a mean neck slice) must all be bloodless robots.?
There's 2 end scenes: one in middle & one at end of the credits. Barely 30 seconds long..
Another stunning and thouroughly entertaining movie from Marvel Studios who continue to gain momentum with each successive film. Delivering something new and original all within the framework of the same genre and universe.
A coming of age film of sorts that sees T'Challa return to his native Wakanda following the events of Captain America: Civil War to deal with the pressures of the thrown and fulfill his potential as both warrior and king, T'Challa and Black Panther alike. Thus being an origin adventure without the obligatory origin story.
Wakanda itself is visually breathtaking and looks as spectacular as one can imagine.
Wakanda itself is an unofficial character in the film with a rich visual palette and identity. It's people, along with most visuals in the movie, are brightly coloured and looks like an.artists dream, as rich and colourful as the comics that spawned them.
All the principle and supporting cast bring it. There's hardly anybody that doesn't stand out or get a moment to shine in this deep ensemble, so much so that T'Challa himself is almost outdone in the movie by the performances of Michael B. Jordan (Erik Killmonger) and the female supporting characters who are so good, I'd be disappointed if they didn't at least cameo in Avengers: Infinity War in a few months.
Highly recommended for any fan of Marvel Studios' movies, Superhero movies or action adventures with hints of political.drama thrown in for good measure. Not to be missed.
Marvel always releases a movie once in a while that changes movies forever. The vfx and sfx were mind blowing. I really was and still am impressed by the way the mcu was going into new places and used better if not different methods.
I found this somewhat entertaining but definitely no where near the best marvel film there is. Some witty and exciting moments but overall it just remains a good film.
[Disney+] A typical product of Phase 4 of the MCU, with irrelevant characters, a bland story, and mediocre visual effects (those backgrounds from the fighting challenges to reach the throne). It is a boring film in the first hour that fails to raise in the second, although at least it offers a certain dose of spectacularity in the massive sequences and in the representation of Wakanda as an idyllic place. But we must admit that Michael B. Jordan is an impeccable scene-stealer, he builds a character so antagonistic that it's almost likeable, much more complex than most of the other characters.
Black Panther is a groundbreaking film that stands out among its comic book movie counterparts. With a nearly all-black cast and a unique visual experience, the film takes audiences to the technologically advanced African nation of Wakanda. The story follows T'Challa, who becomes the new Black Panther and king of Wakanda after his father's assassination, as he fights to secure the safety of his nation against the threat of Ulysses Klaue and Killmonger, an evil and ruthless enemy. The film is well-acted, visually stunning, and carries a unique and powerful message about heritage and tradition. The cast, led by Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa, delivers strong performances, and the women of Wakanda, played by Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira, and Angela Bassett, are particularly fierce and impressive. Despite some inconsistencies in the CGI, the film's contained narrative and emphasis on character development make it an important, entertaining, and enjoyable movie.
Black Panther es una película innovadora que se destaca entre sus contrapartes de películas de cómics. Con un elenco casi completamente negro y una experiencia visual única, la película lleva al público a la nación africana tecnológicamente avanzada de Wakanda. La historia sigue a T'Challa, quien se convierte en el nuevo Pantera Negra y rey de Wakanda después del asesinato de su padre, mientras lucha para garantizar la seguridad de su nación contra la amenaza de Ulysses Klaue y Killmonger, un enemigo malvado y despiadado. La película está bien actuada, visualmente impresionante y transmite un mensaje único y poderoso sobre el patrimonio y la tradición. El elenco, encabezado por Chadwick Boseman como T'Challa, ofrece actuaciones sólidas, y las mujeres de Wakanda, interpretadas por Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira y Angela Bassett, son particularmente feroces e impresionantes. A pesar de algunas inconsistencias en el CGI, la narración contenida de la película y el énfasis en el desarrollo del personaje la convierten en una película importante, entretenida y agradable.
gave exactly what it was supposed to and MORE. imagining how much better it would’ve been as a non marvel entity and my goodness. the serve.
The first solo appearance of the Black Panther has all the hallmarks of a good Marvel film. In addition to the great cast, the interesting story, unique look, and great score stand out. Chadwick Boseman will be sorely missed. He really put his stamp on the role of King T'Challa here. With Killmonger (Michael B. Jordan), "Black Panther" also has perhaps the best villain in the entire MCU. This time around, the typical Marvel humor is less dominant, which is quite refreshing. However, there are some flaws, most notably the dreadful CGI in the finale. The run time is also a bit bloated. However, this only slightly spoils the good overall impression.
AND NOW ALL ATTENTION TURNS TO
NOVEMBER 11th 2022
"BLACK PANTHER WAKANDA FOREVER"
Shuri your up
Rest In Power
Chadwick Boseman
All My Love And Respect.
We Miss You 3000
Really good!! You don’t necessarily have to know the backstory in order to understand what the movie’s about. Like what everyone else has been saying about Black Panther, it was wonderful to see a caster primarily made up of people of color. :-) The cast was spectacular as well! Overall, I really enjoyed the movie and highly recommend it!
This is probably the third time I've watched this film, and I have to say that originally I really didn't like this film really that much. I previously gave it a 6/10, but now I'd give it a 6.7/10.
While I find Wakandan technology very cool and fascinating, that was originally the biggest selling point for me in this film. However, after a few more watches I was able to appreciate more what this film tried to achieve. Chadwick Boseman really was the perfect actor for the role of Black Panther (R.I.P.). He really had the strength of a true King.
The things that I enjoyed more the more times I watched this film:
- T'Challa as a character originally felt kinda boring, but I was able to understand him more as a character this time which made his healtfelt moments with both T'Chaka and Killmonger more emotional
- Okoye and Nakia's scene when they argued about loyalty vs. freedom was relly well done. Okoye as a character really grew on me more this time
- Killmonger, while still not one of the best villians in the MCU, has some really understandable motives that I sympathised more with this time. He's hurting, but he's using his newly found power as King of Wakanda to force others to carry out his revenge on his oppressers. T'Challa understood why Killmonger felt the way he did - just that he acted on those feelings the wrong way
BLACK PANTHER IS A FANTASTIC MOVIE AND ONE HELLA OF A STORY TO BE TOLD, AND I SEE WHY THIS MOVIE IS OSCAR WORTHY AND QUITE RIGHT TO.
WAKANDA IS A ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND FANTASTICAL PLACE. GOD I LOVE THAT CITY,
EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS JUST SO BLOODY INTERESTING AND COOL,
IT'S DEFINITELY UP THERE WITH ASGARD.
FANTASTIC HOW THEY BROUGHT ALL US UP TO SPEED WITH THEIR WAYS AND TRADITIONS, GREAT HUMOUR, LOVED THE BLACK PANTHER SUITS AND TECHNOLOGIES, A FANTASTIC CAST GOOD STORY AND A MUCH WELCOME ADDITION TO THE MCU.
WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE
8/10
BLACK PANTHER WILL RETURN IN
AVENGERS INFINITY WAR.
GOD BLESS YOU CHADWICK BOSEMAN
"REST IN POWER"
AND I AM SO GLAD DISNEY MARVEL HAVE MADE THE DECISION NOT TO EVER RECAST YOU.
Good Call.
"WAKANDA FOREVER"
right "Thor Ragnarok"
My order in doing them makes so much more sense
For how this particular section flows.
Marvel Cinematic Universe
The Infinity Saga
Phase One
Iron Man (2008) https://trakt.tv/movies/iron-man-2008
The incredible Hulk (2008) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-incredible-hulk-2008
Iron Man 2 (2010) https://trakt.tv/movies/iron-man-2-2010
Thor (2011) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-2011
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-america-the-first-avenger-2011
The Avengers (2012) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-avengers-2012
Phase Two
Iron Man 3 (2013) https://trakt.tv/movies/iron-man-3-2013
Thor: The Dark World (2013) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-the-dark-world-2013
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-america-the-winter-soldier-2014
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) https://trakt.tv/movies/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2014
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) https://trakt.tv/movies/avengers-age-of-ultron-2015
Ant-Man (2015) https://trakt.tv/movies/ant-man-2015
Phase Three
Captain America: Civil War (2016) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-america-civil-war-2016
Doctor Strange (2016) https://trakt.tv/movies/doctor-strange-2016
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-2017
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/spider-man-homecoming-2017
Thor: Ragnarok (2017) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-ragnarok-2017
Black Panther (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/black-panther-2018
Avengers: Infinity War (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/avengers-infinity-war-2018
Ant-Man and the Wasp (2018) https://trakt.tv/movies/ant-man-and-the-wasp-2018
Captain Marvel (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/captain-marvel-2019
Avengers: Endgame (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/avengers-endgame-2019
Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) https://trakt.tv/movies/spider-man-far-from-home-2019
Phase Four
Black Widow (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/black-widow-2021
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/shang-chi-and-the-legend-of-the-ten-rings-2021
Eternals (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/eternals-2021
Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) https://trakt.tv/movies/spider-man-no-way-home-2021
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022) https://trakt.tv/movies/doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-2022
Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) https://trakt.tv/movies/thor-love-and-thunder-2022
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022) https://trakt.tv/movies/black-panther-wakanda-forever-2022
The Marvels (2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/the-marvels-2023
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 ((2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-2023
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023) https://trakt.tv/movies/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-2023
Fantastic Four https://trakt.tv/movies/fantastic-four
One of the few Marvel movies where you can notice the artistry that went into it.
This feels like someone’s vision, the story is layered and the conflict is relevant and interesting. The way it’s resolved doesn’t feel safe to me, it makes a pretty nuanced statement about protectionism that might seem agreeable to some, but I can assure you that it isn’t.
The camerawork also really stands out (one of the few Marvel movies with proper colour grading), costumes are terrific, the characters are very well drawn and the acting is great.
It does have some pacing issues in the middle, some of the action is poorly handled (the climax is kinda lackluster in a sense) and looks too artificial, and the main character kinda feels overpowered when he has the suit on, but it’s still easily one of Marvel’s best just because of what it gets right.
7.5/10
The story of a prince vying for the throne has been given too much meaning, but the plot creation has not kept up with such ambitions
The most overrated MCU movie I've seen. Not bad, but like, ehhh
I agree that all cultures deserve to be equally represented in mainstream media, and it's sad to realize that in 2018 we are still far from that. Putting that aside, "Black Panther" ranges from forgettable to terrible as a movie per se. I liked the character's first appearance in "Civil War", but the plot here is too convoluted and drags for too long, mostly involving uninteresting characters and lousy CGI. All for a surprisingly anticlimactic final battle.
Enjoyed that!
'Black Panther', the 18th MCU film, is very good. I really like the world building of Wakanda, as well as the cinematography and costume design. The cast are, as expected, excellent as well.
Chadwick Boseman is terrific as T'Challa, as I knew he would be based on the glimpse we see of him in 2016's 'Captain America: Civil War'. He is the best actor here, but Danai Gurira runs him close. I'm a huge fan of Gurira's due to her performances in 'The Walking Dead' so knew I'd rate her here too, she's fun to watch - it's cool to see her weapon-wielding once again.
Elsewhere, Lupita Nyong'o is good and so is Letitia Wright; she's great in 2015's 'Urban Hymn', which I had seen her in previously. It's a fairly stacked cast, with the likes of Forest Whitaker, Andy Serkis, Daniel Kaluuya and Michael B. Jordan also appearing; Jordan's character isn't the best, but he himself is more than solid.
Black Panther is a whole lot better than Avatar 2009
Honestly my least favourite MCU movie. The stuff happening in Wakanda is standard "I'm not ready to be a king" and the stuff in New York... Just shit.
This is but part of my Chadwick Boseman marathon today since it is his birthday and would have been 44.
Great movie.
First, I will acknowledge that taken at its base essence, the plot line is formulaic: Othello. That said, it was everything else that makes up a movie aside from the base essence of a plot that made this my absolute favorite Marvel superhero movie of all time. Wakanda forever and Black Lives Matter. :heart:
Rewatch following the sad passing of Chadwick Boseman. It was this or Get On Up that qualify as his best performances, for me that is.
It's one of the strongest Marvel movies which on the whole are well-made, well-cast bore-fests of relentlessly tiresome action. At the hands of Mr Coogler, this one strives to be more than that and it works.
I won't single out the performance of Chadwick Boseman. It would be unfair to a very talented and well apportioned cast.
The whole film is well done and the nobility in reaching for something more than just a summer blockbuster in a franchise such as Marvel is to be commended. Like Burton's Batmans, this does well to use the studio system for its own ideals.
8/10
Love this. Probably my favourite of the Marvel 'verse. I
RIP Chadwick Boseman
Everyone’s watching this right now. R.i.p
Maybe if I had watched it when I still had some consideration for MCU's productions I would've liked it better - still a pretty good average movie, anyway.
Alright, I will be honest and start with that this wasn't a film that I wasn't a huge fan of when it released as I went in with really high hopes after all the reviews and then was underwhelmed. But after my most recent rewatch I can confirm that this is a perfect film to introduce this character but it also builds the country and culture of Wakanda perfectly, the thing this movie is best at is world-building as I can believe this is a place.
Also, Chadwick Boseman (Black Panther) is absolutely perfect in this film and he brings so much to this character that I cannot imagine anyone else as this character, I also really liked the villain in this film played by Michael B. Jordan (Killmonger) as the character at points made you almost want to go over to his side and a good villain can always make you understand their point of view and almost make you understand their ideology.
The only reason this film doesn't have a super high rating is that some of the visuals can be a little bit so so and that is disappointing as this movie had a big enough budget to make sure that didn't happen and the end fight looked like something from a cutscene on Playstation 2. Otherwise, this is a film which I urge people to give a second chance.
"Did he freeze?"
So this is kinda late since the hype for Marvel's latest entry is slowly dying down, until 'Infinity War' hits and everything else will be history. Black Panther is a good movie, but sadly not a great one. There's a lot of great things about it and boy was it a joy to watch. The problems on the other hand aren't something to overlook.
Ryan Coogler is an excellent director with his previous work on 'Fruitvale Station' and Creed''. While I think he stumbled a bit with this movie since it's a much bigger movie and the studios breathing down his neck, but at least brought a brand new hero in style.
Chadwick Boseman is a great actor and the portrayal of T’Challa/Black Panther was pretty good. I do think he got overshadowed by everyone else, mostly from the supporting actors. After the death of his father, T’Challa goes through a dilemma when being face with taking over the throne and rule his land. However, not once do you feel his struggle and wasn't presented as a challenge. If I have to be honest, he was more interesting in 'Civil War'. Still this is just the beginning for him. Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira, and Letitia Wright all three serve as supporting characters, but in reality are what glues the movie together and really hold their own in this big budget movie. Even Andy Serkis and Martin Freeman hold their own as well.
Michael B. Jordan as Killmonger is the best villain in the MCU so far. What makes him so compelling to watch isn't because he wants to take over the world or has any magical powers. Just like the Joker, you can't disagree with his arguments of honesty and truth, which is best served cold. Not saying Killmonger is up there with the Joker as the best, but pointing out an example of what separates him from bland. I'm glad Marvel is improving.
The villain problem being solved isn't just one thing, but the score as well. Taking influences from Africa cultural for it's score. Having a little touch of 'The Lion King' in the mix. I liked the technological side of Wakanda and how it blends with the costume designs which had a unique presentation. From any other superhero franchises out there, this is the most refreshing in terms of style. I'm starting to see a difference now.
For problems: The fight scenes are either too dark or anything memorable. Maybe both. The visual effects were shockingly bad and looked unfinished. There wasn't a single frame that I would call 'good'. Looking like cut scenes from an old video game. Wakanda itself didn't feel like a real place in this cinematic universe, because I'm just assuming there only used two build sets for the movie (that's not CGI), where you see characters walk around a street on repeat.
There's literally a scene in this movie where a character yells "what are those!" and I almost sunk into my seat from cringe. The plot is predictable, like most Marvel movies. There's a fake out death that lasts for 10 minutes, acting like they are gone forever. The reason why this doesn't work is not once do you buy into it and since it's a major character who's going to be in 'Avengers Infinity War', if you've seen the trailer.
Overall rating: Just a reminder, I enjoyed the movie a lot and I don't hate it. Heck, just forget what I just said right now. This is just another home run for Marvel and there's nothing stopping them. I mean, it's been 10 years guys, like wow.
After so many deeply interconnected chapters, it's relieving to see a film in the MCU that doesn't require much previous knowledge to enjoy. Referencing the preceding (and forthcoming) films in Marvel's repertoire only fleetingly, Black Panther is a largely self-contained, by-the-numbers superhero flick. Which works both for it and against it. In one respect, that enables the entire cast to establish themselves. Safe from the need to constantly pay homage to Tony Stark or Thanos, Panther's supporting players thrive and King T'Challa himself goes through a complete character arc. On the other hand, it often feels like we've been here before. Maybe not specifically, as the film goes to great lengths to set up Wakanda as a unique culture with authentic customs, but certainly thematically.
As a "back to basics" approach with well-timed, socially conscious values, it functions very well. Its flavor is like nothing else we've seen from Marvel so far - a bright, optimistic blend of tech and nature that really works - and the wide diversity of the on-screen population is both effective and appropriate.
A complete, enjoyable new entry in the publisher's stacked catalog of characters, and a short breath of fresh air, if not a complete breakthrough.
This film made me not want to watch any more marvel films... Nothing happened in this film that was worth making a film about. Basically a dude thought he was great at dressing up as an animal and being king of a place that didn't exist, until some other dude took it from him, only to lose it again to the original dude. Literally a two hour movie about who could be king, not a very memorable film at all.
Do not recommend.
Like all super hero movies, there was nob real character development despite everyone saying this was the best film of the bunch. costumes were great and please to see all black cast but would not watch again.
I have to say I approach this movie from not being a Marvel fan of any sort and not really caring about the extended universe, the storylines or the original comics. Some of this behemoth of a franchise I enjoyed others I did not. Thinking back I clearly preferred standalone stories that focus on a few characters and I care less about the massive three hours trials and tribulations of everyone that was ever created in the comics.
So as a ‘virtue signalling soy boy’ apparently, this film should have blown my socks off, well parts of it did, parts of it did not. I think in all honestly once the credits had ended, and of course I had to watch to the end because of the various little scenes you know are going to pop-up, I was left maybe unsatisfied. Entertained but unsatisfied.
The overall story is appealing, about Africans, in Africa, hidden away from the colonisation and exploitation by Europe and becoming advanced beyond the rest of the world but keeping themselves deliberately isolated. So there’s a message there and a lot of wishful thinking but hey how many times have the USA won the World War Two on their own and the Vietnam War? So there is absolutely no quibble here and nor should there be.
The usual Marvel problems pop up flat cardboard characters and a simplistic storyline that goes on too long. Giving a big window to an African-centric story is interesting in itself and kept my attention whereas if it were a standard white American hero story my interest would have waned having seen it so many times before. It did annoy me that this African nation, hidden away, developed a massive, technological, advanced society that looked a bit like the USA including the shopping and wandering about in the streets smiling and buying things…hmmm not exactly imagination gone wild in those scenes.
We have been here before though, many, many times. This is any old story, really old, the king dies, long live king, someone evil claims the thone deposing the king, the king wins back with allies. Nothing new.
The huge problems with my opinion of Marvel movies were still here. A long extended hero versus villain fight that I disengaged from after about a minute and a massive over CGIed battle where it looked like no one was really getting hurt because….well because it looks like CGI.
The acting varies but the good outways the mediocre and no one was so jarring it took me out of the film some of the dialogue is a bit hokey and cornball and pacing varies in part with some expository linking scenes skipping along and others just plodding along to the point where you could be forgiven for looking at your watch. The look and design of the film in Wankada is sumptuous and clearly some thought has gone into how an African nation left to itself would develop and look, although being isolated from the world, as I have said before, would they really go for shiny skyscrapers and the capitalistic wandering around rows of shops buying things model? There could have been other ways to go here.
Unfortunately, I have the sinking feeling that yet again this is another Marvel film I watched from start to end, would not watch again and I will mostly forget. Shame really the ball has been fumbled here.
CARALHO, QUE FILME É ESSE? MUITO FODA!
um dos melhores da Marvel, com certeza. e olhe lá, se não for o melhor de todos.
todos os rituais e universo feito e criado em Wakanda, tudo muito lindo! adorei!
ps.: só fiquei meio triste pensando que o T'Challa morria, logo no começo de tudo, bateu medinho.
Dope soundtrack with a a cool concept. I really loved the world building g in this film and it was fun seeing g a completely new world. The soundtrack was really cool too. It felt like the composer just experiment with everything and I thought that was really cool. I liked seeing a very DIFFERENT story for a superhero and I really liked that. This is 5/8 in my marvel movie binge.
Black panther was a fun movie, that fit right in with the MCU.
There's not much to say about this one outside of you kind of know what you're getting from Marvel at this point.
Good action, fun story, and grand visuals.
I don't know what I dislike most about this movie: it's racist depictions of warring tribes fighting with spears played by Westerners affecting stereotypical fake African accents, or riding armoured CGI rhinos... Whichever way you look at it it's not good.
Marvel’s little awards season darling.
Black Panther is somehow one of the most important and talked about films of the decade and in all honesty it sort of deserves it. Coogler does what other MCU filmmakers would never do and dives head first into real world political issue, ending his film with a poignant note about free trade and open borders. Michael B. Jordan as Killmonger adds a nuance that is missing in most comic book movies. Overall Black Panther is a breath of fresh air in an over-saturated genre.
P.S that soundtrack is awesome!
Puissant, dynamique, original. Un grand Marvel. Costumes magnifiques et top musique. Je suis fan de Black Panther.
This is a movie like no other
Meilleur film de l’espèce humaine !
Whether or not this is the best film Marvel Studios has made to date, and it is clearly in the discussion, it is by far the most thought-provoking.
I want to start this by saying that “Black Panther” is a very important film in terms of representation. This is also one of the only movies I have ever seen that introduces the audience to a new culture that feels like I could actually described afterwards. The soundtrack is amazing and really helps the transitions feel smooth and adds to the action sequences.
However this movie has a pacing issue that results in it feeling like two films that were pushed together. The second half of this movie is definitely better than the first for the simple reason that Michael B. Jordan gets to shine as killmonger, one of the best villains that the series has had so far. The casting in this movie is brilliant with the interactions between Boseman and Jordan towards the end being what is most memorable about the experience. The pacing issues cannot be overlooked however and the fight scenes were a little disappointing given Coogler’s previous work on “Creed” A very enjoyable film overall and a welcome addition to the MCU.
You have to be fucking kidding me!!!!
weak plot; weak characters but still an enjoyable marvel movie
very loose in all aspects
Fictional country in Africa and of course like in real world it also has to be tormented with internal fights like most of this continent. Screenwriters did their jobs…. ;>
Ótimo filme muito bom mesmo recomendo a todos que assistam
Muito bom esse filme espero que ele tenha uma continuação.
Where do I start...? There are a lot of in-depth, technical reviews already posted here, and I've gotta be honest - on the day after Stan Lee died, this hurts to say, but, I agree with everybody whom rates it as average or less.
It was less than impressive for me. I'm not one that minds a lot of CGI, but come on, there were some parts in this movie that they just didn't bother working on too hard. This feels amplified with the weakness of the story line, which corresponds with the lack of the depth of Chadwick Boseman's character (Black Panther). In every other Marvel movie, there was a little bit, if not more, backstory to the characters. Black Panther feels rushed and overlooked in a lot of ways. The most interesting character, Klaw, is killed off mid-way through the movie and this just happens to be when it started losing interest for me.
Black Panther provides a stunning image of what a prosperous Africa could look like. This is Marvel at its absolute best.
I really wanted to watch this movie because everyone was talking about it and saying how amazing it is. After watching it I have to admit that I was rather disappointed. It's great to finally watch a movie that is not 99% white but in general I was not such a huge fan of the whole plot. It was a fine movie but I'd not praise it as much.
Maybe it's again because I'm not a huge super heroes movie fan…
disappointing, after all the hype, could have been better
Honestly, for the 200 million dollar budget, i was expecting a masterpiece, unfortunately, we didn't get that. There was somethings I did like such as the costumes, special effects, and the overall production design.
Nice story with a cliché ending
I did not like Michael B Jordan in this role not an inch convincing has a villain.. Maybe a few more Heel Roles should help.. Great Writing and Pace but the execution of the plot was a tad bit off.. Overall Good Film for 2018
It was a big challenge for Marvel to overpass the mediocrity of Captain America or Thor, but never underestimate Marvel, they always can surprise you!
A non-charismatic hero, a forgettable big vilain, a story already seen 200 times (except, they decided to be super original putting cousins where it usually is brothers)... The only interesting characters are the side characters: the king's sister, the chief of the montain tribe, the first (white) vilain. All the rest is easily forgettable.
A fairytale country in the middle of Africa nobody ever suspected they have more advanced technology than the Chitoris coming from outerspace.
I mean how is it even possible than nobody knew anything about that country during the colonisation of Africa? Or they would have be colonisated by France, England, or whoever else, and so they technology would have been discovered; or the explorers and armies sent to colonise them would never have return and raise suspicions...
The vibranium is supposed to be the strongest metal, but apparently in its raw form it becomes unstable and can be used as a energy source... I know it's a Disney movie, and I understand now the origin of the fairy power from Peter Pan or the Sleeping Beauty.
The first story arc in the movie is just useless, Warmonger working with Klaue just to kill him later for no special reason, stealing an old vibranium tool from a museum while he knows how to get access to an almost unlimited amount of it...
The realisation is just awfull.
The CGI is quite well done, as in most Marvel, but it would be the only good thing in the movie.
The fight scenes are just meh compared to most modern movies.
The music is incredibly bad and mostly don't fit to the scenes, I thought it was laughable to push tribal-ish music all the time mixed with more modern music just because it happens in Africa. I have nothing against African rythms but they simply don't fit in that kind of Western sci-fi action movie, or at least, not the way they did it.
The movie is full of stupid and sometimes disturbing stereotypes. I felt sometimes offended about the vision of black people in this movie.
As a conclusion I would say Marvel reached a new low. The good point is that it should be very hard for them to do worse.
Good superhero movie. Good acting and plot show a growing king redeeming the wrongs of past. Loved in the end not taking the easy obvious way with the good guys saving everyone. Showed an evolving culture still holding the ancient ways which almost caused a disgrace worldwide. Wakanda for ever!
Another fun movie from Marvel. Really enjoyable if a bit ridiculous at the same time.
I really enjoyed the movie ;)
A bit over the top with the vibranium aspects, I was only able to suspend my disbelief for so long, however the cinematography was spectacular and it didn't feel much like a Marvel movie despite the rather predictable plot.
Growing up I loved the avengers and especially the black panther.
Seeing this movie i recognize nothing of the black panther I loved.
This movie is average at best. The acting is average. CGI isnt great, story isnt great.
Average
Racist representation of an evolved Black Africa
Didn’t buy the plot
However very well made and great concepts
Loved the mix between culture and technology in Wakanda, and Shuri was by far my favorite character in the movie.
Such a great movie it is
As someone who is not a fan of Hollywood movies in general and comic book movies in particular I was floored by this film. Very, very impressive. This was a great movie that just happened to have a comic book hero backdrop.
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Killmonger is the hero. Sure some ideas is a bit extreme but he had the right idea.
I don’t understand how this movie can be so universally praised. For me, this is the weakest movie yet in the MCU. It wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t anything extraordinary either. Too bad, since I thought Black Panther was the highlight of the last Captain America movie.
I've seen this movie about 4-5 times and it basically lives up to the hype. It's not a perfect movie. The CGI in the final fight is terrible. The villain is killed when he doesn't need to be (has a poor ending). The romance is weak.
That's it. Everything else about the movie excelled. The only other Marvel films with this amount of creativity are films where they bring everyone together. Doctor Strange has a great final fight but outside of that it's literally beat for beat Iron Man. To the point where I was insulted. Black Panther is a villain that I care about. Not just understand one I can empathize with one I that resonates with me. It has a hero who can be funny and laughs at himself without making everything a joke. He's surrounded by a cast of characters that don't look like the other marvel characters. The baby sister who isn't just a tech genius but who runs technological development for the entire nation. The love interest who has already rejected our lead and doesn't accept him until he realizes she was right all along. There's an entire arc where the woman of black panther are already at that upper level. W'Kabi bristles under his royal restrictions where Okoye has already come to terms with her role.
It was...refreshing..new..Good actors,.good plot. Not that much Marvel's sh..t.
Looks like era of superhero movies is over. Nothing special. Too dull.
As we all saw in Captain America: Civil War, the King of Wakanda has gone through a fateful bomb attack. The Wakandan Kingdom, secluded from the outside world, is therefore looking for a heir to the throne and logically T'Challa, the king's son, is trying to claim that luxury seat. However, others think the same way. Because of this struggle, the country is in danger of becoming more divisive. For years, hidden secrets could just emerge, with all the consequences. This last solo film for the cumulative showpiece Avengers: Infinity War dives into the world of Black Panther, but how much novelty can there really be discovered?
Just looking at the design a lot. At first glance, Wakanda is a typical third-world country, but whoever enters the hidden world will discover that Wakanda is actually a technologically advanced nation, feeding on the forces of fictitious metal vibranium (also responsible for Cap's shield). The peoples of this vibrant country are richly decorated with a wide range of cultural expressions, such as lip dishes and incised crocodile skins. The home front of the Black Panthers is a country where the primitive African tribal culture goes hand in hand with modern science. Certainly due to the effective use of jungle music, the total picture comes to life. Black Panther is already a candidate to bring in some Oscar nominations next year in the field of production, make-up, costumes and sound.
Wakanda, hidden deep in the rainforest, is therefore unrealistically beautiful and unprecedentedly modern. For those who have heard about it it sounds like a fairy tale. The psychotic gangster Klau (Andy Serkis) managed to penetrate and leave Wakanda as one of the few outsiders. He abuses his rare knowledge of the truth for his own criminal agenda. Together with T'Challa's hostile counterpart Erik Killmonger (played by Michael B. Jordan, who now has the chance to really flame on in a superhero movie), he creates the necessary tensions on the world stage, with which a political thriller unfolds that tone strongly reminiscent of the widely acclaimed The Winter Soldier. Jordan knows with conviction to put down an emotionally layered bad guy. Which is rare in this film universe.
Black Panther sometimes even shows a certain roughness reminiscent of Marvel's Netflix department. Where Marvel fell flat quite a few times last year with their shitty comedy, director Ryan Coogler knows how to use the jerk drum much more nuanced. Especially T'Challa's dog-hungry sister Shuri (played with 'swag' by Letitia Wright) and tribe leader M'Baku (portrayed perfectly by 'newcomer' Winston Duke) steal the show in that area. Honest is fair, protagonist Chadwick Boseman delft in the middle of such a strong ensemble. Furthermore, the social significance of the film should be considered. Black Panther is indeed a nice boost for the black community, especially in America, and shows the so desired role models of colored men and women with a meaningful position. In addition, the film also subtly addresses a number of current political issues such as the refugee crisis and discrimination.
So far there is no shortage of creativity. Coogler knows how to distinguish himself well within the genre with his unique and lively images. Unfortunately, that is less true for the tempo and the build-up of the somewhat meager story of his film. The story goes by too fast, but at times it comes to a near halt. Certainly the final fight, in which the CGI quality also goes down to the video-game level, has been spread out so long that it evokes associations with the miserably long battle in The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. Partly this will be because Coogler, unlike many of his colleagues, has cut little in the action scenes, which makes them feel somewhat tedious. What is also striking is that Marvel has revealed almost all major key moments - up to one of the two after-credit scenes - in her promotional campaign.
All in all, you secretly have the feeling that Black Panther is the last piece Marvel had to still color in on the world map of Marvel's fictional universe, making the base solid enough for Infinity War. Coogler has managed to create a rich, unknown world, but dropped a lot with the relatively poor story, in those same beautiful surroundings. Wearing a crown, doesn't make you king. If Coogler paid just as much attention to the story as he did putting the Wakana-world on-screen this might've been the best Marvel-production to date. Now it just takes a backseat to plenty of their other hits like Iron Man and The Winter Soldier, but it's definitely one of their best and most entertaining
7.7/10
Great cast. Great action scenes and special effects. Storyline, meh.
I called Black Panther "An overhyped and overrated forgettable mess..." the first time I saw it, and not much has changed.
For a movie that looks this beautiful, has these great actors in it, and generated an insane amount of hype, it falls through both when it comes to CGI and story. Both would be more at home in a low budget indy flick.
I do like some parts of this movie...like the locations, the good job they did with fleshing out the Wakandan culture, and how beautiful it looks...when there's no CGI in play that is, but it isn't enough to make this even close to interesting nor entertaining.
The story is weak on so many points. The pacing is so off some parts feel like they go on forever, and some of the more interesting scenes are over in a flash without enough information. The worst is still how incredibly boring it is. I had to hold back so I didn't skip through the whole movie.
Anyway...it's still an overhyped and overrated forgettable mess, and not worth your time unless you are trying to get the "whole" MCU story.
Ok...so this was one of the most hyped movies of 2018 so far.
I'm not particularly impressed...
Oh sure...it's a pretty enough movie if you can get past some of the worst CGI I have seen in a Marvel movie to date, but it made the cardinal sins of action/adventure movies...it was boring. The pacing was all wrong, and some parts stretched on and on and on, and some just flew past without much explanation. Clear signs of a bad script...
The casting and acting were good enough, but there's only so much you can do when the script is this bad. Some actors looked bored, and some overacted to compensate for the cringy lines. I can't say I blame them...
I can see someone watching this just to complete their MCU viewing experience, but other than that this movie has little to offer.
In the end, Black Panther was just a little stop on the way to Infinity War. An overhyped and overrated forgettable mess...
wakanda forever. loved this movie.
1 / 2 directing & technical aspect
0 / 1 story
1 / 1 act I
0 / 1 act II
1 / 1 act III
1 / 1 acting
1 / 1 writing
0 / 1 originality
0 / 1 lasting ability to make you think
0 / 1 misc
5 out of 10
Boring stop seeing after 30 min.
Average movie. Couldn't watch in one, took 3 attempts to get through the movie. Not Marvel's best.
It's not the perfect Black Panther movie, but it's a damn fine one. It's engaging with a great set of characters, cool fight sequences, and strong arc for the lead. It's another one of Marvel's top tier introduction films. Loved they way Wakanda was realized, it was even cooler and more inventive than I had what's pictured. It also features one of the best villains the MCU has had yet. Never thought in my lifetime we'd get a big budget, respectful Black Panther movie, but here we are. What a time to be alive!
Everything is happening to damn fast!
Good casting. Good acting. Decent story. But way too much stylistically that was straight out of Disney and even Star Wars, especially in the first act. It was enough to pull me out of the story at times when it was particularly blatant. Also, the CGI was consistently good except for the green screen scenes with a nature background, at which point it was consistently bad. In short, this was a decent Marvel outing that ended up being a bit disappointing because all of the hype had really raised my expectations. I will surely like it more the next time that I watch it since I'll be approaching things from a more realistic frame of reference.
An okay movie but way too overhyped with some corny acting and plot.
We wuz Kangs, the movie.
Action scenes were at least fun to watch.
Hot bald warrior chicks still not enough to leave my phone alone and pay attention
The Black Panther is a fun romp, but it definitely has some issues. First, the good.
The action is fun, the emotions hit home, and the story isn't dirt-poor.
While the CGI gets ripped on from time to time, I thought it was solid enough for a Marvel movie. The fight scenes were relatively well-choreographed, as well. The ritual combat scenes were exciting and visually appealing. The fights in Korea were also fun to see, and while I'm not a fan of car chase scenes as a whole, I did enjoy this one. It was reminiscent of a James Bond movie.
In fact, that's another appeal, at least to me. The secret technology base and the fun action scenes were a great callback to James Bond-type movies. I do think the movie would have been complemented by giving T'Challa a similar vice as Bond's, although Marvel probably wouldn't veer down that line for the seemingly morally absolute King of Wakanda.
The story, well, it's a mixed bag. Everything seemed crammed together with major emotional keys being rushed through or somewhat ignored. The concept is fine though. A long lost relative comes to challenge the new king, wins, and shows his colors, becoming something amoral. The king comes back and takes down the usurper, realizing something about themselves/their kingdom in the process. It's tired, but not so tired it damages the movie.
This is where the issues begin to rise, though. The movie is really a movie and a half or two movies crammed into one. Wakanda has a ton of wonderful mythology, but almost none of it is explained. The movie never really explains how the Wakandans used vibranium was used to make themselves wealthy. It touches on it in some exposition, but there was much more that was just glossed over.
In addition, W'Kabi became radicalized by Killmonger much too quickly for such a pivotal relationship to flip. Some of the emotional aspects of the movie fell flat because they weren't given enough screen time.
Despite its flaws, Black Panther is a fun movie that adds to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It should have been two movies, but I doubt this is the last we'll see of Wakanda.
This did not live up to my expectations. This is just an average movie, to the point that is borderline bad. I would not recommend watching, unless you are super Marvel Fan or for continuity of the Marvel movies.
Story: Average. While there are some good aspect (e.g. superhero from Africa), with somewhat believable story of hidden country there, the rest of the story is just sub-par. Completely predictable, generic. The middle of the movie will bore you.
Characters: Below average. Again some positives (Ulysses Klaue, made me laugh), all other were just textbook, one-emotion/purpose shallow characters. Also some storyarcs that are supposed to have emotional climax, are just blank as there is not enough story/buy-in.
Acting: Generaly OK. As mentioned I liked Ulysses Klaue (Andy Sarkis), I also liked Okeye (Dania Gurira), but otherwise again just an average movie.
Visuals: Good. Something to be expected and the driver of the movie. I like that compared to other recent movies, the scenery does not change every 5 minutes. Also the African location is a nice change.
Music: Bad. Generic Marvel Universe music here again. Nothing memorable. The lack of good music is even distracting.
Other observation:
1. It is also a weird mix of other movies. There seemed to be a hint of a Bond movie (when they the Black Panther was preparing for an action) which did not sit well with me. Too similar.
2. At some points the movie tried to be funny, but you could feel them failing.
Now Marvel has officially made a blaxploitation film.
And before some liberal goes on about me being an entitled heterosexual white male and thus racist, let's set it straight.
I love black characters done right. Spawn is one instance. Static is another. Static Shock the Animated Series is an amazing instance showing black communities, their problems, gang violence - and the good people trying to help.
Black Panther is another thing entirely.
It's self-serious and unfunny.
It's ham-fisted in its message - using a stereotypical "African" accent just to nail in how "black" the characters are, and even the (quite terrible) song in the end sings "I hate people who feel entitled". The only white protagonist is referred to as "colonizer".
There's no character buildup for the villains - so much that they might as well be cardboard cutouts.
The mandatory strong independent female characters - remember, if you can only define a character as a "strong independent female", before defining who they are as a person, that is a comically bad character. As bad as the "testosterone-fueled bad-ass dude" and the rest of them.
The CGI is cheap, the soundtrack is bland and not memorable.
It is a sad time when movies think of not offending the overly sensitive audience, instead of telling a good story.
Good movie for small kids, no more, no less. Don't expect much and you wont be disappointed.
Masterpiece! 10/10
I love how the culture is represented! The movie shows the Wakanda culture in an astonishing and beautiful way! Every beautiful colour, music and way of the African people is perfectly represented here! Astonishing! Watching this movie you cannot not love the tradition and manners of the culture shown here! It makes me want to see more of this beautiful world of Africa!
Marvel has once again proven that they make the best movies! The plot was full and well expressed! The actors had the perfect chemistry! The characters were complex and well played!
The problem with movies with big names actors and legacies to fill is that the director and the writers focus on the characters building and forget the story. Marvel does not have this problem. They build the story and then they make the characters the best they can be in the story and this is what makes them great!
There are people that are unhappy that Marvel dominates every time they release a movie, but the truth is that the MCU release quality like none other! As a lover of movies, I am happy that there are so great movies like The Black Panther. Hollywood movies makers should stop whining that Marvel dominates the market and focus on giving us worth-while movies. This way there will be nothing to complaining about! Stop being cowards and rise to the challenge!
P.S.: This way the audience will have to choose between more than one great movie when going to the cinema!
Review by hlavaBlockedParent2018-02-17T23:11:24Z
Sorry folks but this one didn't go well for Marvel. I don't even know where to start. Acting was average, more like below average. Screenplay was as much ordinary as it could be. No surprise here. CGI was OK but it's somehow expected from Marvel. But I totally didn't like the idea of Wakanda. Hidden city in the center of Africa with tons of technology and advanced weapons and systems and so on. But how the hell did they build all of that? No explanation. It just happened. Yes, they have Vibranium, but they don't sell it. In fact they never did and for whole world they are just a bunch of shepherds and farmers. So where did they take all that money to build empire like this? I don't like movies without explanations and this is one of them. Almost nothing has been told about Vibranium whatsoever. Oh yeah, it's some super thing from the universe capable of anything. That's all the explanation you get. There are too many clichés we have already seen too many times. And we have to see them again. One example: I challenge someone for a fight because I want to kill him. And when I have the chance to kill him, what would I do? Kill him or throw him down from the cliff to the water where he can survive? But enough. If you hesitate if to watch this, I can recommend not to waste your time. Wait for the Avangers where you can also see the Black Panther. You won't miss anything if you miss out this movie.