Imagine making a movie that has such big stakes, but make it so nobody cares about any of the characters.
Jean Grey - Yawn, she struggled with controlling her powers, controlling her emotions. Some part understandable but I felt no emotion.
Professor X - Acts like a Villain for the first half of the film.
Mystique - Shouldn't have hired Jennifer Lawrence, she couldn't handle the make-up. Attempts a death scene but leaves no emotional impact.
Quicksilver - Has some of the most iconic scenes in comic book films and they don't give him his scene. Gets injured early on and just disappears until the end of the film.
Storm - Was just there to do damage.
Beast - The only character with correct motivation and you somewhat understand why he feels the way he does. Just feels like bad casting personally. Hoult is just too youthful and skinny for beast.
Cyclops - His character is just completely centred around Jean. Feels like we never get to see just Scott.
Nightcrawler - Where does this come from, he just become a murdering psycho and the build up just seems too out of character for him.
Magneto - Probably the best performance, character flipped sides very easily considering his motivation for wanted to kill Jean.
Jennifer Chastain/Aliens - Why, what, who, what, why.
Good scene - Using their power to fight over control of the helicopter
Bad Scene - Every single one with Jennifer Lawrence
Mostly stuck in second gear for the entire runtime.
It’s hard to find any outright terrible stuff in it, but it’s simply dull the whole way through.
I’ll give it this: the cast is fine, and there’s one good action set piece.
Jessica Chastain, I still don’t know who exactly she was playing, tbh.
I think it’s mentioned somewhere once, and never brought up again.
I suppose you’ll get a nerdboner if you’re actually familiar with who it is.
If not, like me, you won’t care.
As for the overall film, it is just so bland and directed without a sense of flair or excitement.
Bit of a bummer to end the franchise like this.
4/10
Way back in the year 2000, and before the MCU, the original X-Men kickstarted the superhero genre that had long since faded into medocrity. (Seriously, post 1992 Batman Returns, can you name another decent superhero movie?). And now the saga ends, and while it isn't the swansong I hoped for, it's no disaster, either. The Dark Phoenix story is improved upon after the less than good The Last Stand, there is some decent action, and most of the cast are given an opportunity to shine. It could have been better - it is slow in places, the villains are thinly drawn - but it's not the mess the critics are calling it. Of course, while this saga ends, the X-Men will return when Disney resurrect the characters, but I will still miss the actors who have embodied the characters so well in this decent, if not always successful series of films.
Warning Lot of Spoilers ahead for THIS MOVIE & Avengers Endgame( if you havent seen endgame and are seeing dark phoenix, u belong in a museum).
Wont use spoilers tag. will be too many.
Remember when captain america picked up the hammer.
Remember "avengers assemble".
Remember all the cool moments from so many awesome movies. hell even the previous xmen movies.
Good luck trying to find them here. Not a single cinematic moment created in a comic book movie full of wonderful and loved characters played by talented actors. How do you F*** this up.....
The movie starts of with so much promise. And then we see Jennifer Lawrence, (who btw is not in the mystique makeup coz she is a huge star now. whatever happened to "mutant and proud"), scolding Charles that X-men should be called X-women now...
And then 2-4 people clapped and laughed in the theatre. #CringeAlert
wow...
soo.... i guess Hank, nightcrawler, quicksilver and scott are not men......
enough already with this sjw nonsense.
It is all downhill from there. The writing and direction is just bad. It is tragic that this is the last xmen film of this "continuity/saga" under Fox.
I cant believe im saying this but Xmen Apocalypse was so much better. I cant believe im gonna say that EVEN Xmen 3 the last stand at least had some coherence and a plot driving forward compared to this lost cause.
The villain is played by jessica chastain who is playing............. YEAH I DONT KNOW. i have to go to wikipedia or google to probably find out . otherwise she is just there.... manipulating jean gray to become evil...
The performances by actors are great and there is just one tiny action set piece outside Jean Gray's house. it lasted a few seconds but it was so promising. but the movie failed so much after that.
Mystique is killed off there and Quicksilver is "conveniently" injured. you know...... coz he can literally solve all problems the movie might ever have. also his special effects probably cost a lot, as much as the whole production.
It was interesting to see Hank and Magneto to team up to kill Jean Gray but that lasted again like 10 seconds where everyone reunites to protect Jean Gray from Jessica Chastain who is playing the role of .......... YEAH I DONT KNOW .... a bad woman/alien....
So many moments could be created based on these characters to move the audience. based on their powers.
When hank comes to tell magneto that mystique is dead there was a crashed helicopter behind him. I thought he would probably destroy it or something with his powers in rage. Justifiable power usage in moments But no, he sheds a tear....
But you get the cheeky moments like Scott asking Storm to put ice in her drinks... Really.... There is no ice at that party. If storm is not around they will have drinks without ice??? nonsense screenwriting
Everything is dark. Every scene is dark . Most of the set pieces are set in dark (except that jean gray house scene which was decent for few seconds)
Even the damn climax is in a train in dark. Couldnt really tell what was going on . All hodgepodge action. full of confusing moments.
Its just sad. I dont want it to be avengers end game. but this movie never tries.
Only thing commendable are the actors' performances. Nightcrawler after being weird in the last movie gets to shine a bit when he finally enrages and start fighting in climax. but that again lasts only few seconds.
Sophie Turner does a good job. But the writing does not do enough justice.
I mean the final fight in Jean vs Jessica Chastain, she taunts to Jean that "your emotions make you weak" , mid - fight.
ok awesome. i wonder what would be a cool comeback to that. which make you pump up in excitement as Jean finishes her off.
Lets ask some 10 year old shall we.
10 year old: "ummm just use the opposite sentence. YOURE WRONG. MY EMOTIONS MAKE ME STRONG !!"
Good job 10 year old. you should join our crew.
im not kidding. this is how Jean replies to whats-her-name before finishing her off.
It all boils down to how good the villain/antagonist in the end for every movie/story (at least in a CBM).
X men Apocalypse whatever kind of movie it was, it was at least having a powerful villain performance by Oscar Isaac who had a decent screen presence and powerful delivery of dialogues at some places ( the missile scene ).
and here we have jessica chastain who plays......... WHO THE F*** IS SHE PLAYING???? AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT? DID I MISS A MOVIE OR SOME POST CREDIT SCENE FROM BEFORE. F***!!!.
average movie . see it if you are bored. but it will definitely tarnish your xmen memories. I actually re-watched xmen apocalypse immediately afterwards to see how much better it was then this mess.
A lumpen mess of CGI and overblown rhetoric about power and love between underwritten characters you couldn't give a stuff about. It's only the charm of Fassbender, McAvoy and some of the other actors who save it. Meanwhile, poor Jessica Chastain is wasted as smug annoying floaty villain.
Definitely worse than X3: Last Stand. How on earth did they let the same guy take another crack at this story when he messed it up last time as well?
I think they only made this so they could have Mystique (Jennifer Lawrence) throw out the line “it should be called X-Women.” Everything needs feminism these days.
They blew it after Days of Future Past. Rebooted the franchise after the X-3 mess. So they can make a movie with the Phoenix plot again ? At least X-3 was fun.
The film was just as dark while killing key members again. Except this is the last one. No time travel sequel coming that will save the killed off characters.
Jean was alive in the Days of Future Passed ending. Which makes this franchise even more of a mess. Since she died before Logan could even love her now. While Magneto never even learned that Quicksilver is his son. What a mess.
Man, they should have named this movie "The Shit on Charles Xavier Power Hour". I was really disappointed by that. They kept laying into him and it seemed so out of place. That aside, the movie seemed mediocre although I did enjoy some of the action scenes, particularly with magneto. Makes me want to re-watch the original X-Men movies though because they are certainly superior.
Anyone who read the Fenix Saga in the comics, or even watched the cartoon of the 90s, will never like this movie. Unfortunately.
The most unnecessary part in my opinion was the raised agenda about male chauvinism in the movie. Totally unnecessary, as most female characters have always been the strongest.
They had an excellent opportunity to make a masterpiece, and they wasted it.
Spoiler Alert... IT'S TRASH.
And I say "spoiler", because it spoils the entire series. Honestly, you're better off just not watching it, and wondering what could have been. I won't blame you if you still watch it, but afterward, you'll be thinking about this comment... and how you shouldn't have watched it.
Remember, you were warned.
Just take some popcorn or whatever, sit back in your couch and don't expect much about this movie.
Seen it twice, probably enjoyed a little more on the second try. It's not a great movie, but I wouldn't call it terrible either. Fassbender steals the show once again, at least in my eyes. Turner is a little awkward, there's not enough Pietro and I still don't know exactly who Chastain played. Neither Raven's death nor Jean's final sacrifice provoke emotions that they probably should, I didn't even blink while watching them. I liked what they tried to do with Professor X, even though they seemed to go a little overboard, overall poorly executing what undoubtedly started as a good idea.
But I admit, the final scene was great. The perfect way to wrap up this story.
I paid money for this
FX, FX and nothing else.
I am so angry!!! I had sick high hopes, because the story in the comics is soooooo good!! This sucked HARD!!! This is seriously the absolute worst X-men film yet. I’m sooo pissed after watching this boring piece of trash! RIP MCU!
I really wanted to end up liking this movie, but it's not good. Everyone feels so weak, even Jean Grey. And the characters feel a bit all over the place. There's no satisfying conclusion, and the skrull-ish aliens were never explained what they were. It could've been really badass with Jean Grey kicking ass, but no one in this movie does much of anything.
it's not good, it's not bad it's just nothing. will have forgotten about it tomorrow... what movie am I reviewing? see... already gone...
Kuddos to hans zimmer for making this movie bearable, definitely could be better
it's not THAT bad jfc. you will feel like something's missing the whole way through yeah but it's still got that special x-men quality to it that can't fail to make me smile. i'm gonna miss them!
7/10
sophie turner has like 3 lines in this movie repeated a thousand times
Not nearly as bad as the critics made it out to be. Better than X-Men: The Last Stand and overall one of the most entertaining in the series. I'm not disappointed I saw it.
Great 3D effect too. Shame there's not going to be any 3D Blu-ray release of it anywhere in the world. What a waste of a good 3D conversion.
This movie has a wide gulf between audience scores and critic scores. As if we needed further evidence that critics are garbage
So disappointing. They tried to make this story into a movie before and it sucked. They've done it again! If they actually USED THE STORY then maybe it wouldn't suck!
Saving graces here are McAvoy, Hoult & Turner - the rest of the cast was pretty flat.
The pacing was off and the movie was far too short. I so wanted this to be good but it was just another flat dull super hero movie.
X Men franchise is dead since a long time, this movie just make it even worse.
Seriously, give the franchise to anyone elde and change tue director, writer, cast and everything...
Not as bad as people claim...but in terms of storywise, this movie ain't going nowhere
The cast and the effects are probably the only two things that will make you watch this movie !
The rythm is off, the shots are often predictable or boring, the overall scenario and scenes are dull...
Hans Zimmer should be forbiden from making any motion picture theme from now on.
Lee Smith should never be allowed to edit movie anymore.
Simon Kinberg should never have directed anything at all.
This was bad, slow, useless and boring... in every aspect!
Honestly I don’t know what I was expecting going into the movie when I went to watch this movie....but it was very different.
The movie itself wasn’t bad, but there wasn’t nothing amazing that would make this memorable for me in the long run.
Pros...
- Not only am I a visual person, but :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:I also appreciate appropriate, good soundtrack.:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: And overall the music did fit the movie and the scenes.
- :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:the acting from the cast was great. :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:
P.S. Anyone that can pull off genuine tears while acting impresses me.
- :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:The opening scene was really well done, and made you feel for Jean.:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol: Although the child actor didn’t have much depth to her despite it being a major scene.
Cons...
- :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:The inconsistencies.:asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:
What I mean, and this isn’t the first time I’ve noticed it in this new franchise of X-men movies, is that there is inconsistencies. For example, I distinctly remember in Apocalypse that Jean was recruited from her home as a teenager and both her parents were alive. Dark Phoenix starts with Jean being parentless from a car accident when she was 8 years old. And from there Charles Xavier raises her into the woman we meet.
- :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:Some of the characters were underwritten. :asterisk_symbol::asterisk_symbol:Note: Maybe it could be the actors had other projects as well as filming this movie, I haven’t done research behind it all, I’m
• Raven had such badass roles in the previous movies but they really tamed her down in this one and gave such a minimal role.
• Hank & Magneto
• Quicksilver
• How quick the characters change from good to bad, right or wrong, etc.
- The vague explanation of the newest villain, their species, etc.
==Note: Now this may not be a pro or con to some people, and that’s fine. This is just something I wanted to note. ==
These don’t relate to anyway to the older X-men movies. I mean this is the X-men but it’s trying to separate itself and be more than it’s predecessor. Yet I grew up with those movies, so I’m sorry but I can’t just dismiss them. And these newer movies don’t fit the timeline that those established by trying to speed everything up? But by doing so, I feel as if so many things are being left out and it’s not really rising to the potential it could have.
Well... It wasn't as bad as Jeremy made it out to be in his review... But still a huge disappointment.... Chris was right, this movie would've benefited from an R rating... And better writers... The story felt like it was scraped together over an weekend with Coke and Tequila.... Also I really was uncomfortable watching Sophie Turner playing Jean Grey, I ain't got nothing against her, she's a hot lady and all but she doesn't feel very natural IMO.
I thought it was better than the last stand version but didn’t have the kick and energy that the last two films brought but was a fun watch with plenty of decent action. I liked how they focussed more on other characters and give them more film time in the action scenes. Definitely less on the comedy and more dark but that goes well with the Phoenix story. I thought at times it was rushed and a little cheesy. It’s definitely worth a watch, go into it with an open mind.
Fox: Oh, boy, here I go fucking up the The Dark Phoenix Saga again.
Disney: But we bought you out!
Fox: Ha! Joke's on you, I fucked it up twice before the merger was finalized! Can't stop a moving train wreck twice in 13 years, especially when we pull from the god-awful Fantastic Four movies we had the rights to! Jean Grey, meet "cosmic cloud" space woo!
Was gonna give 6 stars but took one off for the horrible sound design.
this movie is equally bad compare to xmen 1,2,3.
What a disaster. This should never have existed
I actually thought the movie was pretty decent. Not sure what all the negative buzz was about.
I'm not an avid comic reader, but I grew up with the X-Men cartoon series where the Phoenix plotline dominated many episodes. This felt closer to that version of the story vs the one in The Last Stand. I preferred that version of the power, though as others have said, this movie was missing a lot of the punch that you'd expect from a comic book movie. Just like The Last Stand, I don't see myself buying this one or really rewatching it.
This could've been great, but it ended up being close to a disaster.
The first half of the movie seemed promising, but the execution was so poor, it made me lose interest more quickly than I'd predicted. I can't tell what did it: the soundtrack, the acting or the directing, but everything felt completely out of place while watching the story unfold. Then came the second half of the movie, which felt rushed and waaaaaaay too soapy, even for my tastes (seeing that I generally don't mind when movies tend to be more dramatic than they need to be).
Oh, also, the use of green screen in this was just... no. I hate seeing CGI used this way and I'm sad to see that more and more movies tend to not pay attention to realism when it comes to using the digital tools of today.
Let's hope that the next iteration of X-Men, the MCU-backed one, will be better.
I had seen somewhat mixed opinions of this movie and none of them were really that great so I had some doubts about it. Anyway, the other day I sat down with the kids and watched it.
Far from the greatest X-Men movie but it’s not that bad either. It’s okayish.
The story is fairly decent and, as usual, the special effects (which is really why I watch these movies) is quite good actually. The characters are doing a decent enough job of their roles although none of them are really up to the standard Patrick Stewart brought to the franchise.
The biggest gripe I have with the movie is it’s incessant whining. Jean is quite cool when she get’s pissed off and shows off her powers pretty much stopping anything that gets thrown at her. However those good moments are overshadowed by both her and other characters going into whining mode every so often. And Hank is just a bloody annoying asshole.
I haven’t really read that many X-Men comics (didn’t have them in Sweden when I grew up) so I cannot say I know much about Jean’s real story in those. I noticed that a lot of people complained about the story in the movie not being “the right” one. Sure, when they take a known character and remakes him for no good reason that pisses me off as well but this is NOT a one star movie by any stretch of the imagination.
Overall I cannot say that I really felt disappointed having watched it. Not exactly overjoyed either but it made for a decent enough movie evening with the kids.
Better than the critics say, easily. But a firmly average X-Men film.
Though the last act falls into a predictable superhero format, the first two-thirds of the film are quite strong. There's a good performance from Sophie Turner here, and she does well at potraying the struggle she's going through. Raven's death was done better than I thought it would be. Some characters feel ultimately irrelevant to the overall story (Storm, for instance) but that's to be expected. This film is about Jean Grey, after all.
There's a nice dynamic between Xavier and Grey, and the moments where Jean's letting the force overtake her and then realizing what she's done are the film's best. The battle in New York was solid, if a bit generic. I was sure Magneto was going to bite it on the train sequence . . . which brings me to the villain(s). Some alien race led by Jessica Chastain who plays Vuk. None of the others have names that I can remember, and they're about as bland of an alien force as you can get. Chasing the power that Jean Grey took on, yada yada, boring villains. Also a huge contributor as to why the film falls apart once Jean rejoins the X-Men.
I have no idea what the critics are smoking. This is not the worst X-Men film. It's got some great bits, like Magneto and Jean squaring off. I put this firmly above X-Men Origins, X-Men Apocalypse, and (gasp) First Class. But it falls under all the others, leaving it ultimately in the middle. It ends on neither a whimper, nor a bang, but just ends.
“You're always sorry, Charles. And there's always a speech. But nobody cares!”
Yikes.
‘Dark Phoenix’ ends with a flicker rather than a bang. It’s quite depressing that a franchise that basically breathed life into the superhero genre that we know today sadly stopped caring.
Despite everybody desperately holding on for hope that ‘Dark Phoenix’ would be a solid exist, I was the complete opposite - the evidence being in the development stages. Some have argued that “People have already made up their mind about this film before it’s been released, they want to hate it”, mm...no. This movie has been pushed back three times, a first time director Simon Kinberg, the test screenings was called “disastrous”, and the lack of interest the cast had towards the project.
Even the clips realised for the movie either looked atrocious or absolute cringe, especially the Mystique “Change the Name to X-Women” scene. Like, you’re addressing this to a guy (Professor X) who lost the use of his legs by saving the world, lost his friend to differing opinions, uses his fortune to construct a school for helping mutants, and creates a team to help protect humanity.
Anywhere, ‘Dark Phoenix’ is far from being worst in the series, but it’s the most dull and forgettable entry in the series, which is much worst in my point of view.
James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender being the saving grace isn’t anything new, yet needs repeating with every entry despite their characters conflict being repetitive. Sophie Turner is fine as Jean Grey, but Turner truly shines whenever Jean is in shock and confused. Jennifer Lawrence, on the other hand, easily the weakest link as it’s never been so transparent for any actor to not give a damn. She was really bad. The Mystique make-up looks so bad and cheap for some reason. I’m guessing Lawrence didn’t want to go through the torture make-up process...well, tough sh*t. You’re being paid billions to star in these movies and the make-up being accurate to the character. If you don’t like it then leave. Jessica Chastain is fantastic as s̶k̶r̶u̶l̶l̶ Grace Randolph.
It seems like the dialogue really took a nosedive with this franchise. I mean every line being delivered by the cast felt stiff and stilted.
Also with this movie being set in 1992, it’s confusing to know that in 8 years time James Mcavoy will look like Patrick Stewart, and Michael Fassbender will look like Ian Mckellen. And don’t jump into the defense with the whole “set in the not too distant future” at the beginning of the first ‘X-men’ movie, because with the timeline being so f**ked up, it still doesn’t make it clear where anything is set. I find it extra confusing with this movie set 30 years after the events of ‘First Class’, yet the characters have barely aged during the intervening years. They could’ve easily put aging make-up on the actors to show a passing of time. I mean, sure it will look uncanny, but it’s better than not trying.
The visual effects looked questionable at best. The final battle lacked any suspense since I didn’t care about any of the characters. The cinematography and Simon Kinberg directing wasn’t anything special. I’ve seen the movie a few days ago and nothing is sticking with me in terms of memory. I can’t think of anything worst than being forgettable.
I find it alarming how a superhero movie coming out in 2019 can feel so outdated.
Overall rating: Mr Feige will like to see you now.
First half was way better than the second half
Uninspired acting by a cast that seemed to be as underwhelmed by the script as I was. A lame, anticlimactic ending. Pacing problems from start to finish. A story that relied on various X-Men being their own worst enemies as they repeatedly and consistently did the absolute worst and most wrong and stupidest things possible among the options available to them at a given time. And tying it all together? A series of scenes that were poorly strung together that seemed to be more the result of a forced decision to get from A to B to C than anything even remotely "organic." And I say that as someone who hates using the term "organic" in a context like this. But the plot really was just a bunch of square pegs being pounded into round holes time and time again. Watching so much wasted potential was not entertaining. At all.
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This is the only X-Men movies where I feel it's hard to keep my attention 100% at it the whole time. And I don't even think all of the movies are great. It's just that this one definitely the weakest one of all.
Some of my problems with it:
- I'm disappointed that we didn't learn much or nothing at all about the villain. Don't even know their name or what they are.
- The music. I thought there was something wrong with the audio. It doesn't actually add any emotion to the story. Sometimes it's distracting, other times just really bland.
- Hank motivation didn't seem logical. And he didn't need to go Beast and jump on cars and make a scene, he could've just walk/run across the street to get to the house!
- The acting and dialogue again seems bland.
There were some good moments though, and overall the movie was still entertaining with good special effects and fighting scenes.
Was that a movie? Really? who wrote it, an AI ? Felt like they were forced to do this, not even minimum effort!
could have been much better but it disappoints in many ways ; not worth viewing in the cinema despite the good graphic efects
I thought this was a fantastic movie and a great way to show the power of the Phoenix force. Several very good action scenes. Fassbender plays an excellent Magneto, as usual, and Sophie Turner really delivers as Jean Grey. If you like the X-Men you'll love this movie. If you are on super hero burnout from Captain Marvel and Endgame and you really aren't into the X-Men then I think it's safe to say you won't find this movie to be the highlight of your summer.
My first reaction to the movie was how few people there were in the opening night audience. I thought it would be packed. I certainly had been looking forward to it being released (I loved the franchise from its first film in 2002). Afterwards I discovered that audiences may have been deterred by early reviews. But, the people leaving the show seemed to be less than impressed, as well. You already know I talk to people as they leave a show about their impressions of it. This time, I thought I'd share a few of the random comments from departing patrons:
* "My kids always like the movies I take them to - all three of my teenagers hated this movie."
* "Disney made them tame this movie down, I'm curious if it HAD been a better movie before the changes."
* "With such heavy weight talent and multiple awards won by three of the cast, the disparity of performances by the rest was more pronounced."
* "Such a lack luster end to a franchise that never met it's potential"
* "Who is Vuk? Is there any basis in the original sources for Jessica Chastain's character, or her alien race of D'Abari*? Who are they?"
* "What were they thinking giving this final chapter to the guy who gave us the mess that was LAST STAND?"
* "I was looking forward to see them recreate, in CGI, the flaming Phoenix of the comic books and then we get a few seconds of it - at.the.end!"
Personally, I was bothered by how this completely destroys any credible chronology in the 12 films. They had hinted at a darker past for Jean Grey, but this past rewrites a future for the Patrick Stewart generation. (Was this a different multi-verse?) I found the acting was very uneven. The Beast and Cyclops were miscast and the characters were poorly drawn, neither of them would have merited their love interests' attention. Despite a poorly written script with horribly written characters, Sophie Turner performance lacked nothing. Even her fellow cast mate, Michael Fassbender, lauded her for her craft: her preparedness and technical proficiency**. The soundtrack was powerful. I didn't hate it, but the inconsistencies flattened the experience of the movie. I was hoping for an 8 (great) or 9 (superb) end to this incarnation of X-Men, but I give this film a 6 (fair) out of 10. [Superhero Action Adventure]
Notes and Footnotes:
*It seems there is source material for the D'Abari. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Bari
Note: Rachel Paige does try to chart the chronology of X-Men in her article you will find here: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/06/234590/dark-phoenix-x-men-movies-chronological-order
**https://entertainment.inquirer.net/332585/michael-fassbender-says-dark-phoenix-is-game-of-thrones-stars-movie
I actually enjoyed this movie. Missing some essential characters, but overall good effects and an interesting story line.
It's sad to see the X-Men franchise go out with this movie. It is very generic and anti climatic. There was a lot of stuff I didn't understand, like everything to do with Jessica Chastain's character, and I just don't really care for Jean that much. It does have some decent action but the CGI can be distracting at times.
After reading reviews and the ratings of this movie I didn't really expect much, but I realy enjoyed it, it's totally underrated
Poor fights for a action movie and poor writing for a drama. They had the perfect ingredients to finally make a great X-Men movie but throw it all away adapting the Phoenix AGAIN. So disappointing!
A very mixed bag. Some combat scenes were amazing, many others not so much though.
The soundtrack is great, but it gets pretty repetitive when it seems that there is only this one soundtrack, with some minor variations.
Same can be said about the plot. We have seen and heard pretty much all of it already, in previous movies. Raven's role was the only innovative element, and Jennifer's performance the only outstanding. Sad to see her go, especially after this movie showed the potential the character Raven still had.
Chronologically looking this movie is one of the first, since they are all young.... SO MYSTIQUE SHOULD BASICALLY NOT BE IN OTHER X-MENS, CUZ SHE DIED HERE!!!
WTF how do yo explain thaat!!! Makes zerooo sense!!
And again I am swimming against the stream.
I liked it, enjoyed it, got entertained while watching. Has it a deep story ? No. Is it perfect ? Of course not. But there are a lot from the Avengers Franchise who are a lot worse than this. I'll admit it feels a bit like written with a hot pen. I guess they wanted to close out the story fast. And that alien angle is too thin. Still, I might watch it again sometime.
Sadly this is the last one of the line. Because, while I have no desire to watch anything post Endgame, I would like to see more from those X-men. Reading the news about the Disney X-men doesn't make me feel confident about them
I thought this was a pretty solid movie. The opening sequence gripped me, and my attention was grasped throughout. Coming into it, - with End Game fever - and hearing that the ending of Dark Phoenix was rewrote .. I was worried, but still eager to see it. Let down, I was not! Rather, I was left wanting more; yet, knowing this was the end of an era I was left with a bitter sweet feeling.
There is something about a bad-ass, female lead that gets me every-time. The action, acting, and the use of the "abilities" were spot on. I look forward to seeing it multiple times over again.
I actually really enjoyed this on rewatch, It's still cheesy as xmen always is but it brought a good plot, some decent characters, some character building, good cgi and some fairly good stunt scenes. so yeah xmen till I die.
:heart::heart: - Dark Phoenix is far too slow and boring without Wolverine
Here's how my rating system works:
10:heart:- Masterpiece :100:
9:heart:- Excellent
8:heart: - Amazing :ok_hand:
7:heart:- Great :sun_with_face:
6:heart: - Good :thumbsup:
5:heart: - Average :head_bandage:
4:heart: - Bad but watchable :octagonal_sign:
3:heart: - Bad :sob:
2:heart:- Awful :face_vomiting:
1:heart: - Bull Shit :zzz:
The first quarter is all “wHaT dId YoU dO cHaRlEs”, then the next quarter was them repeating “you don’t know your full potential, what is it, I’ll show you”, then 10 mins of pure badass from everyone, then ended it with 20 mins of them showing all the men get their asses kicked and get ko’d super easy (even tho the other movies they were punched and thrown and barely suffered a scratch)
She’s my favourite character now
Odd at the beginning and better at the end. Somewhat disappointing for an X-men movie. Could've been made so much better.
It felt like the only motivation for the whole movie was to set up the fight scenes. The magic plan:
1.Have some scenes where characters have positive "pre-fight" interactions,
2.Include some scenes where they have "post-fight" reconciliations,
3.Don't forget ALL THE FIGHTING!
6.5/10 - Not sure about the story. I think the X-Men movies might actually start getting boring. Part of the problem might be that the characters don't change much but I don't think that's it. It's more that the story is always overkill and focused on Jean and Eric (it feels like they're always part of the problem). Anyway, Jean narrating the intro was a minor but interesting change :D
The soundtrack was quite epic and the rescue mission at the beginning was awesome to watch. However, things did get somewhat downhill from there.
Raven's comment that they should be called X-Women was nice and also funny. Unfortunately it looked like that request wasn't seriously considered. I also never realized that the X in X-Men could stand for Xavier. Raven seemed to imply that but I always thought it would be from the X-Gene (mutation).
Anyway, Raven's death really sucked... :o
The party scene at the school was kinda nice and I also loved the set/environment when Jean visited Eric.
Jean transcending instead of dying was a very good decision IMO. She's a bit too powerful for the X-Men universe so that might be a good way to move her a bit out of the picture in a nice way.
I also liked how Eric is helping Charles at the end. I'm not sure if he can though... :o (given how often he changes between good and evil)
When I first read about them filming this my first reaction was why followed by please don't. Then after I saw the trailer I still held onto the why. I finally watched it and that sentiment still remains...why???? I've read the original Dark Phoenix saga. It may not be my favorite story arc like most fans but its a solid one and good for Jean Grey fans. It would be nice to see it done right on the big screen. Considering they have mucked up nearly every X-Men storyline and character over the years, I really was hoping they wouldn't touch this. But they did.
The only characters interesting to watch were Magneto and Vuk (she's the bad guy). Otherwise, the special effects were spot on. But for a storyline that was supposed to be filled with action, it was rather dull.
I wanted to be wrong and like this. But I really just can't. It wasn't a waste of time, but it's definitely forgettable.
The movie disappointed me. Not sure equally or more than x-men the last stand.
Feels like most of the actors wasnt really ready to shoot the movie....or it is just me
Besides everything won’t with this I think the problem was the director... this is my favorite saga and I endure x-men 3... but this I just don’t care about the characters... the emotional scenes are just meh... anyway Phoenix is my fav so there’s that
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘Dark Phoenix’:
This movie was insanely predictable, almost every step of the way. And it all started with a trailer that gave away wayyy too much.
I love Sophie Turner. She’s a fantastic actress. But I thought this was a poor casting choice. I feel like the whole character was done wrong. Never did I feel intimidated by her. Never did I sense this all-powerful being filled with rage. Never.
Call me crazy, but I prefer ‘The Last Stand’ to this. I miss Hugh. I miss Halle. I miss Rebecca Romijn and Famke. The villain here was so poorly executed. In general, this was rough.
It was good to enjoy good fights from the X-Men, and the X-Women. Also, the Phoenix powers are amazing.
It was bland. Didn't feel any kind of thrill or intensity at all. It's just is. I can't say it's bad but it's not good either.
What (the hell) happened to the series?
What started so promisingly with First Class and peaked with Days of Future Past crashed with Apocalypse, only to never recover with Dark Phoenix.
The latest installment of the X-Men is a work in itself. Basically detached from its predecessors, we are experiencing a story here that is usually fobbed off as a side-story in other movies. This film offers zero added value for the series. Nevertheless: Various scenes are fun and the whole work could entertain me.
What a pity: The always valuable and very worth seeing Quicksilver scenes suffer a total failure here. At least Hans Zimmer rocks with his soundtrack to the film and another highlight of his career. The music enlivens the whole work and gives it the necessary drama.
Hooray for the final fight in the train: It looks really good and pushes the whole movie.
Finally, I would like to mention that the movie is just so full of logic holes and nonsense. That's how Jean Grey gets an incredible power from space and is therefore the most powerful of all mutants. Strange, because that's what she was before.
My favourite scene: Honestly, I have no idea. Maybe when Quicksilver puts the head of Nightcrawler into a glass ball and quickly wraps tape around it to seal it. Maybe not.
Such trash....wasted 2 hrs of my life
He doesnt have action, only SF stuf,but was good
The only reason this is in my collection is for the sake of completeness. Otherwise, this was hard to watch. It seemed like none of the actors really wanted to be there.
Ugh... yo, this was just plain bad.
3 - Bad
Thuis movie is about nothing. We've had a dark phoenix movie so now we're getting an alien invasion. Why exactly? Well a powerful force! Bland movie and Sophie turner's performance isn't making it any better
Very lazy. At times it is boring. Very predictable. The soundtrack removes intensity from the action scenes. In short, it is totally expendable
Dark Phoenix should have been the epic conclusion to the X-Men prequel saga. And yes it is the final film for the X-Men as we know them. But unfortunately it was not a very good ending for the story that stretched over four films. Don't get me wrong, the movie was not bad overall and the acting was great but I really wished for a better ending to this story. Killing off Mystique/Raven was horrible and also the Dark Phoenix storyline with those Aliens felt kind of weird. But I really liked the scene where the X-Men rescued the Astronauts from space. That was really cool.
I spent the whole movie wondering what the original screen play was before they were forced to change it. I wondered, was it always this bad or is this a forced change? Maybe this part was epic but they had to cut it. And because of it, I gave it some slack because I thought, maybe it's not their fault it was so horrible. But there were too many problems for this to ever be a satisfying ending to this series. Vague alien villains thay are never explained. One of the vest characters is killed in the beginning in such a ridiculously stupid way that I jad trouble believing they were actually going to let her die like that. And then most of the movie is just running around until the last big fight. And then there is the anticlimactic, horrible ending. I mean, Jean finishes everything in 2 seconds and then what, disperses into space? Such a sad ending to a series that I was mostly enjoying until now.
What an utterly boring turd Dark Phoenix was...
Apart from looking and sounding somewhat good, they managed to get just about everything wrong. The story and script are utter shites. The casting and acting are not much better. Combine that with an extremely shitty ending, and you'll get...whatever Dark Phoenix was. They even managed to cram in some SJW lines in there as well.
Even though I liked some of "First Class" X-Men movies, I'm really glad this is most likely the end of this X-Men arc. Disney will probably make a mess of them sometime in the future, but at least for now we don't have to see more of this.
Have you noticed the name of the café at the end? "Café les vieux amis" (= café the old friends)
Disappointing, the only word that comes in my mind after watching this movie.
Flat and without excitement.
Interesting story, fast-paced action, although there are also important plot elements that cannot be missed. Who would have thought that in the almost closed past of the X-men it is still possible to leave question marks for subsequent stories? :)
The X-Men franchise comes to an end with Dark Phoenix, a thrilling sci-fi adventure. During a mission to rescue the crew of a space shuttle Jean Grey absorbs a strange energy cloud that causes her to lose control of her powers and become a danger to those around her; meanwhile an alien race called the D’Bari tracks the energy to Earth and attempts extract it from Jean. Writer/director Simon Kinberg does some interesting things with the characters, but breaks from the established series continuity (which is rather irritating). Also, the plot is rushed and doesn’t spend any time explaining who the aliens are. And Jessica Chastain is criminally underused. Still, the special effects are especially well-done, and the fight scenes are exciting and action-packed. While it has some problems, Dark Phoenix is an entertaining film that unfortunately brings an end to the Fox chapter of this franchise.
1 / 2 directing & technical aspect
.5 / 1 story
1 / 1 act I
.5 / 1 act II
.5 / 1 act III
1 / 1 acting
.5 / 1 writing
0 / 1 originality
0 / 1 lasting ability to make you think
0 / 1 misc
5 / 10
Wait, I remember one scene J-law wasn't awful, the 2 seconds in an episode of Monk.
A movie nobody asked for. J-law awful as always, Sophie Turner same. I'm one of a few people people who have dropped GoT after Season 1 :-D
Weakness x men I have seen ever
I give this movie 3.5 stars. Not good and also not bad. Good story telling and good acting. CGI, hmm nothing new. I guess, Im just a fan of X-Men that's why I watched it. And the file was free so who am I to mega criticize this. Well, I'm still looking forward to the next XMen movie or if not XWomen. Lol.
Doesn't worth watching... Characters don't fit their rules
No good. The erstwhile XMen, X2, and X3 had an old world charm going for them. The resurrection, however, doesn't seem to be working for me. We all know these movies follow the same kind of formula, culminating towards an all-out bash at the end. My point is, we all know how these movies are going to turn out, but it's how much you enjoy that journey from the beginning to the end that makes or breaks a superhero/mutant flick such as this. And I did not enjoy a bit of this. Decide for yourself.
Just left the theater from watching it again. I still believe it didn't deserve the hate it got (from critics.) Because most fans actually loved and enjoyed it. Also, I noticed many parallels to The Last Stand. Magneto is still the superior mutant with no one matching him in badassery. It's a travesty he didn't have his own movie. Four movies and I still don't like Jennifer as Mystique. Wish she was killed off after the first one. Now is a little too late. Charles didn't deserves all those things being said about him and he should've never apologized. And finally, Eric and Charles' last scene is definitely going to be one of the places I go to when I need to think happy thoughts.
Weak story aside, this is a good excuse to see your fav X-Men in action one more time.. Jessica Chastain presence is good enough for me even though I wanted a damn Mexican standoff between her character and James' and I wanted more of this movie but I walked out of the theater with stupid grin on my face.. that's a win I guess!
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The Train scene with Magneto being total BADASS :cupid:
I liked it a lot, the fights are good, much better than the previous one. It has been fine as the end of the saga. I do not understand those who put it so badly
Pretty much ignored every review I’ve come across saying this wasn’t good and waited to judge for myself. It’s probably gonna be the last x men movie with this cast and I’m GOING TO ENJOY IT. And I honestly loved it. I had my doubts about Sophia delivering as Phoenix, but she was so much better than I expected. It was an interesting and fun journey. Though as always, I wish it had more Eric/Magneto and Magneto in general.
A wonderfully put together footnote.
Well this is good! The lowest rated movie in the whole franchise. 17% on RT. WTF did they do?
The release date is wrong, it has been pushed back.
oh snap! I'm soo excited for this!
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wait, that boring GoT girl? nah I'll pass. like I don't care about avengers too.