Stan's final fate leaves some very problematic connotations regarding alcoholism and homelessness...
Are we supposed to feel sorry for Stan for ending up an addict and homeless or vindicated as if him ending up as the new "geek" is deserved punishment?
If it's the former, then this is just another instance of Hollywood glorifying a psychopathic narcissist conman (just like The Greatest Showman, Bad Education etc.).
If it's the latter, then it tarnishes the memory of the other unfortunate homeless people that were exploited. Is Del Toro implying that some of them maybe deserve to be taken advantage of because of their choices?
Really messy stuff...
What a perfect final line and shot to end the movie on. I saw the first adaptation the previous night and this has nothing to envy of that cult classic.
I really really liked this movie…. The subject matter, the cinematography and the performances… great movie about the carnival underworld…. Gotta watch it again
As is expected from Guillermo del Toro, this is an interesting one. The universal positive here is the acting. Bradley Cooper and Rooney Mara are both excellent, as is the entire ensemble, with Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, and David Strathairn being the standouts. Cate Blanchett was perhaps the only one who I was less on board with, but I think that has more to do with the writing than with her performance.
As far as the story goes, this film is divided into two very distinct segments: (1) Stan's life with the carnival; and (2) Stan's life with Molly in the city. For me this structure resulted in what felt like a pacing issue. After moving very quickly through the first segment, with numerous time jumps keeping things progressing, things seemed to slow down in the second segment. This might have to do with the fact that the story narrows significantly. The opening segment was more slice of life; establishing the setting, the characters, and their relationships. Character driven rather than plot driven. The second segment flips this around and becomes very plot focused. I can't help but compare the two segments and unfortunately the second doesn't quite deliver on the promise of the first. Character reversals and reveals felt rushed or unearned (e.g. Cate Blanchett's final scene in particular felt very contrived) and the main conflict itself felt somewhat half baked. At the heart of the story is also the phony mentalism, which started to wear thin for me, as it doesn't exactly make for exciting cinematic material and starts to strain my suspension of disbelief. Luckily, even some of these questionable elements are largely saved by the fact that everything else about the film is so damn good, including not only the aforementioned acting, but also the stellar costumes, set design, directing, dialogue, and pretty much everything else that goes into filmmaking. And beyond that, the movie is also able to steer itself into an appropriately nightmarish ending, tying back to all of the great groundwork from the opening section. I found it quite appropriate that Willem Dafoe's tremendous monologue about recruiting geeks would be the critical building block of the final scene. Plus Tim Blake Nelson does an excellent job in his brief cameo executing the devilish plan Dafoe outlined.
As an aside, soon after finishing this film I learned that it was a remake of an apparently well reviewed 1947 film, which was in turn based on a 1946 novel. While I'm not normally one to watch two versions of the same story back to back, in this case I'm tempted to watch the original, as I'd be interested to see how this story was told back when it was more contemporary (the story takes place from the 1930s-1940s). The period piece elements of this film are so intentional and well realized that I can't help but wonder if the original would feel a bit bland in comparison, as the setting/era might be less of a focus.
This is great! I loved it!
'Nightmare Alley' is a superb watch! I particularly enjoyed the beginning and end, which are truly excellent; the middle part isn't as strong, but is still top notch in its own right. I love the dark atmosphere it sets from the get-go, the sound design is outstanding - some bits are so striking and I love it! It has a quality, engrossing story to boot.
Bradley Cooper leads the cast with quality, though he isn't even the sole standout of the film. He is joined by a whole host of terrific performers: Cate Blanchett, Rooney Mara, Toni Collette, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins, David Strathairn ... I could go on, simply phenomenal casting! I wanted more of them all, and yet felt I got the perfect amount too.
The 150 minute run time went by incredibly quickly for me; if I hadn't known it was on for that long, I would never have guessed its length to be anywhere near that. It's a slow burn, but a slow burn done tremendously. Guillermo del Toro - this is the first film of his I've seen - & Co. did a super job, I have no complaints at all. I was toying for ages between a 9 or a 10 rating, it just about creeps its way into the latter.
Just brilliant. Go watch!
Another Del Toro film that feels more like an excuse for showing off art direction than an actual film.
Bad pacing, kinda empty (very light on story, drama, tension, emotion or anything interesting in general), predictable, and even the acting is a bit hit or miss. I didn’t buy Bradley Cooper’s performance as a scam artist, and Cate Blanchett is really overselling it. The rest of the cast is pretty good though.
As already mentioned, the production makes up for a lot of the flaws, but I just feel like Del Toro’s talents would be better served if he’d chosen a career as cinematographer or art director. Besides Pan’s Labyrinth, I just find a lot of his stuff very dull and overly indulgent, often emphasizing style over substance. This thing is no different.
4.5/10
I was hoping for more. This was predictable. The ending especially. I liked the atmosphere of it all but that was about it.
I stand by my assertation that Bradley Walsh is a better actor than Bradley Cooper and Nightmare Alley is testament to this fact.
There wasn't even an alley!
Dreadful.
Nice 1st part, poor 2nd part
The overall atmosphere seems nice and well built. The film is however long, and in spite of the length the plot seems scattered and not fully developed or explained throughout. I had to rely on an external detailed review to make full sense of what was happening, as I probably missed some important bits due to the boredom and the not so clear narration, and still I would not find it so interesting (except for the highlight of the historical fact of these kind of funfairs). Characters were also not always properly developed. I guess, overall, that in general I may not like this kind of movies and plots.
Dreadful movie. Utter nonsense and waste of my time
Stylish, noir elements, stellar cast... Should be a slam-dunk. But it isn't.
It is instead slow, predictable and ends of a really hammy callback.
Cant blame the actors who are all fantastic. The cinematography is excellent. Just a poor plot. And it is a remake I believe? I won't be searching out the original.
6/10
If you like great visuals and dark plots with grim characters you will enjoy this movie.
It’s a little bit (totally) fucked up and it has no real direction or conclusion but what a movie! Excellently played by Cooper.
I’m not sure I’ll rush to watch it again but it’s definitely worth a watch!
The performances from Bradley Cooper and Rooney Mara are great, the set designs fantastic and the film does transport you back to that era very well. However the pace and plot were slightly lacking for me, very slow in places and probably also slightly too long. Del Toro is no doubt a great director but for me this one just misses the mark.
I'll watch anything that has Cate Blanchett in it and she'll never disappoints. But....
The look and the great cast overshadows that this is just a story about a lowlife who bites up more that he could chew. It's an hour too long and the outcome was predictable.
And at about 23 m$ box office this has to considered a bust even with a budget of just 60 m$. So the names alone doesn't cut it.
While I found the performances all great, for some reason it's hard to stay awake or interested in the film. Having seen the 1947 film, I knew what kind of journey I was going into. I came to see GDT's iteration of it with high expectations and was let down. I appreciate GDT tackling the monster genre without the familiar stigmas we see in his creature features, but this version is significantly too long and not so effective. I do like its striking visuals, paired with dark moody atmosphere and some visceral violence, and the ending hits pretty well but for the most part, it's just not the most interesting film.
Not the best movie but still visually beautiful and entertaining noir.
A very thoughtful film with imposing images that can do one thing above all: start well.
I was really captivated at the beginning, the first hour of the film passed like ten minutes. But then, unfortunately, the film flattens out. Emotionally as well as in terms of suspense.
What impressed me so much at the beginning becomes irrelevant. Somehow I had the feeling that the film just wanted to "finish".
The end was predictable for a long time and therefore didn't have the effect that the makers would have wanted.
All in all, it's a movie you can watch once, but it's a pity about the many missed chances from its middle on.
It's not a "Prestige" or "Illusionist", Blanchett evidently sounds like an instructive Galadriel, but you can watch that movie.
I suspect this is a film I need to rewatch. On first viewing, it's a lot of style but no substance. However, as I probably wasn't in the right mindset while watching, I might appreciate it the second time around.
Snoozefest story and terrible lines
What a demented, awful movie. I feel like I need a shower.
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I wasn't sure what to expect from this movie. I was however expecting a little something different than what I saw. However, this is still a very good movie and story. I loved the whole carnival setting in the first act. It was very interesting. And I also loved how the story went full circle.
How I rate:
1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time
4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this
7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too
9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
I mean, it’s fine, it looks good and the cast is solid but it’s hard to not feel like sort of a waste of time when it is all said and done. The vibes only can take you so far!
I can see how this movie was a challenge for some. While the film is beautiful to look at there really aren't too many moments that stick out. But if the viewer is patient I think there is a fantastic reward when the film plays out in the end. Is the foreshadowing a little thick in the beginning? Yes, it probably is but I don't know how the story can have the impact that it does if it was done any other way. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.
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LOVED this movie. It is long at 2 1/2 hours but never feels like it's getting bogged down or slow.
Nice twists to the story keeps you enthralled in the story.
Only downside for me was all that smoking (thought I was going to develop emphysema during the movie!) - I get it - that was what they did during that time period.
One thing I don't understand though is: how do Toni Collette and Cate Blanchett ever get movie/TV roles? They've both got faces for radio and they aren't any better than 1,000 other actresses that could play their parts! One of life's great mysteries.
10/10
What season of American Horror Story is this?
Very long and very boring.
Cannot agree with many comments on this being overlong. It has the slow burn of a classic noir, something that younger generations don't seem to appreciate, being more used to the fast cut, short attention span movies that seemed to have proliferated since the MTV pop video changed the way movies look. Having also seen the original, anyone thinking this was slow paced would quit the Tyrone Power orig. after the first 20mins! This is another masterful work by Del Toro, better than The Shape of Water, and deserving as much, If not more of it's success. For those who appreciate storytelling above implausible stunts and CGI, your in for a treat!
[7.8/10] Nobody does a fable like Guillermo del Toro. There are no paranormal elements here, the kind that blur the line between reality and fantasy that the talented director does so well. But there is a novelistic tale of a man who raises himself up from nothing, through both natural talent and deceit, only to become too proud and fly too close to the sun, eventually plummeting lower than where he started.
At two and a half hours, you feel the weight of that journey in Nightmare Alley. Despite including some spooky elements -- a ragged carnival, a confidence man crafting seances, murder and mayhem -- it’s the closest thing to a straight prestige picture del Toro and his team have delivered. More of a psychological thriller and parable than a horrorshow, it plays like the dark-tinged cousin of other period character studies like The Aviator. The film is as much about the rise and fall of Stan, the humble carny turned mentalist to the stars, and the childhood-forged pathologies he’s both running from and burdened with, as it is about the knottier plot elements and hidden schemes at play.
The downside to the movie is that it reaches its zenith in the first act. The most engrossing part of Nightmare Alley is Stan’s time in the circus. He ingratiates himself to a pair of mediums and learns their trade, studies under the maestro and learns the mercenary plays that keep the place running, and courts Molly, a handsome young woman in the repertory who catches his eye.
It would be folly to leave Stan at the circus the whole time. The thrust of the narrative is him soaking up all he can from that unique, rarified air, trying to apply it beyond the borders of cheap carnivals, having some success in the tony corners of the big city, but going too far until he tumbles back down into that same muck. For that ascension and crash to have meaning, he has to leave the nest. But the film is never as alive, vivid, or compelling, as when a more reticent Stan is steadily navigating his way through the circus hierarchy.
Of course, some of that is the exquisite texture del Toro and his production crew are able to craft once more. Even where the story falters, the visual stylists on the film are able to catch the eye and make one’s heart rise into your through with the images alone. The grimy circus that the main characters inhabit is the right mix between worn down and homey. A modernized vision of Freaks, the horrors of the funhouse, or the bustle and spectacle of the main thoroughfare, or even a return to the small bodies in jars of The Devil’s Backbone give the film an indelible atmosphere when the key players operate in such a striking environment.
But some of it is the rich ecosystem the film offers in that world, which dissipates and never is quite matched once Stan and Molly make for the big city. Willem Dafoe commands the screen as always as the head of the circus, who hustles with the best of them and yet uses up his performers as needed. There’s a pall of sadness between David Straithorn (warm but haunted) and Toni Collette’s (playful but grave) semi-retired mediums, laboring under the weight of past sins and present misfortunes, taking to Stan even as he’s readier to use them than embrace them. And the other acts, from del Toro favorite Ron Perlman as a protective strongman, to an unrecognizable Clifton Collins Jr. as the chicken neck-eating geek who’s treated as less than human, make this carnival feel like a living, breathing organism, even when it strikes larger than life tones.
Once the picture moves to the city, it becomes more a standard thriller and melodrama. Stan bluffs his way into polite(r) society with the help of Cate Blanchett’s well-connected psychiatrist, Dr. Ritter. From there, he bilks judges and millionaires with promises of communing with lost loved ones, despite warnings from his discarded (and likely murdered) mentors not to delve into such dangerous waters. The steamy cat and mouse game between Stan and Ritter, the contentious relationship between him and the regretful but skeptical money man, Grindel, and the strain to keep the bluff going long enough to cash out is all fine, but plays as much more generic and less affecting than the earlier part of the film.
The most gripping part of the “two years later” tale of Stan as a fully-realized conman is the contrast between him and Molly. Candidly, I’d written off the character as a prop of a love interest early on. But Rooney Mara gives an understated yet earnest performance, one much trickier to pull off than than star Bradley Cooper’s more high volume character. It ultimately sells the difference between them.
Molly genuinely loves Stan. She remains connected with the carnies who cared for her when she’d lost everything. She won’t tolerate toying with people’s emotions by venturing beyond mere guessing games and pretending to be able to channel their dead relatives. But Stan sees love as just another gift. He is eager to distance himself from the hardscrabble yet ignoble places he came from. And he ignores the warnings of his teachers and partner not to mess with the tangles of “spook shows”, with self-justifications and dreams of rising above his station.
The central insight of Nightmare Alley is that it will never be enough for Stan. The script recognizes that there is something empty he’s trying to fill, caused by a mother who ran away with a huckster, a father who disappointed him as a useless drunk, that is too deep-seated and untreated to recover from via the cash and social currency he means to use to prove that he is not the stock from which he sprang forth.
When things go wrong, as they inevitably must, things kick up a notch, While the middle portion of the film is more languid and less involving, at the climax del Toro and his team find the operatic poetry that elevates the director’s better efforts when it counts. The imagery of Molly as the ghost of their mark’s lost love, blood-stained chases, and Stan himself accepting with maddening resignation that he’s sunken to becoming the “geek” puts the heightened exclamation point on this parable of a man who all but had what he wanted, and couldn't leave well enough alone.
There remains a touch of poingance and even profundity in that. The theme is a touch rote, not quite as resonant for modern audiences as its 1940s source material. But dressed up in the tones of a conman who bought his own lies, a murderer’s row of authentic performers, and the haunting images and vibes that del Toro crafts like no other, this latest fable still pricks and pierces in its high points, even if it, and its protagonist, should have stayed in the circus.
Love Del Toro but this was all a bit... ordinary. Not much of the flair or surprises I'd expect. I was waiting for a hook or stinger then the credits rolled. All a bit dull.
A unique, intruigung and fascinating film, with incredible cinematography, pristine direction and great performances, although the story felt a bit dragged out.
Am I a weirdo if I say that this is my perfect comfort movie/feel-good movie? Cate shrink me all the way, I’ll lick all the marbles of your beautiful art deco office.
The plot is so predictable that you are constantly fifteen minutes ahead, but the overall mood and classic film noir parable are pulled off so well that it’s never been a problem. I would have loved to see the characters explored a bit more though. This is Del Toro’s first movie without supernatural elements, yet he managed to keep everything visually appealing without getting overwhelming.
So, it turns out, I’m not fully down for del Toro. https://boxd.it/2EU3Ap
Amazing sets and costumes. The acting style really fits the movie. The story is engaging enough to keep you interested but never did I feel there was a risk taken by any of the characters. But I suppose that wasn't the point. It's more of a sleeper thriller that keeps you wanting more rather than on the edge of your seat. A slow burner where you can really see the characters grow and change. Some grow apart. Some show their true colours. I loved it.
A milestone in the filmography of Del Toro: after 10 films in which the protagonist with monstrous appearances must survive in a world that misunderstood it with his identity, in this 11th a Bradley Cooper in a state of grace interprets the monster which, refusing radically his identity, hides it to himself and to others, to whom he present himself only behind the mask he wants to resemble at any cost. A monster that denies everything he cannot admit to be, self-destructing himself at the end of a long parable of lies with which he deluded himself to be able of grant access to high society before falling ruinously in the abyss of the 'nightmare alley' which entitles the movie.
So an important variation for del Toro's works, from a series of characters with whom you can empathize to one from which you have to dissociate. To complete it, it was inevitable for him to change all the rest of his narrative formula, moving from the fairytale atmospheres of the Gothic Fantasy to which he has accustomed us in these 30 years towards the noir genre, of which he exploits its indispensable ingredients, cruel cynicism and attraction for self-destruction, to build disenchanted characters with a turbid past they have to conceal for survive in a world more ruthless than themself, pretending to be better than the misery they are forced to live in. Given the themes del Toro usually deals with - precisely the human being as more monstrous than monsters and the power of authoritarian institutions as a harmful force of society that suppresses the creative anarchy of the individual - is almost strange that this foray into noir did not happen early. The simplest explanation is the (bitter) ascertainment that noir is a genre that have been disappeared for decades from theaters, relegated to other media such as TV, with its countless police series, and comics (Batman beign a remarkable pop example). This spoils the phenomenon not as a cultural removal: also in the cinema media, noir's canon survived contaminating other genres, in particular science-fiction, and have been reloaded in post-modern forms, of which the Tarantinian is one of the most radical. However, there is no doubt that among all the narrative formulas invented by the Golden Age Hollywood, noir is the most obsolete today, for its unacceptable stereotypes for contemporary sensitivity, either for its witty and hermetic dialogues and for the extremely slow pacing that the public misunderstands too often for boredom. Perhaps it is the imaginary from which it was inspired by that is no longer part of us, with its metropolis livable only during the day, the rampant crime, the corruption of the institutions ... or maybe it is us who have given up on questioning our morality observing the choices of an aberrant man, forced into a world that resembles him where dog eats dog, and scandalized we preferred to opt for less anxious and disturbing visions of reality.
All reflections that also explain the flop of this film at the box office despite the cast of recall. Regardless of this, it's undoubtful that Del Toro is a true artist, who takes care not too much of its work's commercial success, and that in this case was able to take advantage of an unprecedented contractual power with the producers thanks to the Oscar won for his previous The Shape of Water, thus being able to pack an indigestible to the public film from its premises but in a way that is exactly how he wanted it and as he probably had never been granted before (confirming the Oscars as useful prizes for productions' marketing rather than an artistic certification of the true value of what they reward, The Shape of Water being an happy sporadic exceptions). The hope is that the same creative freedom would also be granted to him in his next film, Pinocchio, a work that he has obsessively chase for 15 years (the fact that it has however been snubbed by all productions except Netflix speaks about the depressing state of the Hollywood industry and does not bode well). Anyway, for the first time del Toro shows us an unprecedented version of his imagination and poetics, getting up all the canons of classic noir - the femme-fatale that is the desire and the ruin of the protagonist, the conflict between elderly powerful men and young vulgar men (vulgar intended as of low-social class or new-comer to the city, because in reality both duelists are horrible kind of people) and the trauma of the past that persecutes, to bear and suffocate with an immoderate use of alcohol and cigarettes. From the excellent historical reconstruction to the highly symbolic and anticipatory scenography for the plot, to the dilated times that give a Golden Age Hollywood mood (in fact the film was also released in a black and white version), to the screenplay made of silences (which in the neo-noir count almost more than the dialogues, just think of the spoken and not-spoken Blade Runner's versions): all the pieces go to the right place to confirm the genuine talent of its author even outside his comfort zone.
In 1939, USA begins to notice the monstrosities in progress in Europe so far greeted with condescending, while the monster Stan is born from a trauma (ir)resolved with sinister revenge and, fleeing from its past, who becomes part of the world of monsters, which in this era is represented as a freak circus: people who live as monsters, in a reality parallel to non-freaks' one consistently to all the films of Del Toro where monsters give access to the fantastic and the metaphysical being its emissar when they interact with ordinary people, in this specific case, during artistic performance for which the bystanders pay so as to escape from their monotonous everyday life. Yet, for the first time in a film by Del Toro, monsters that are not really magical or supernatural creatures, but normal people who pretend to be such and who integrate that role of through with the metaphysical however with respect for their public and disinterested professionalism, which make all the difference between a street artist and a scammer: in del Toro's noir the true magic of fantasy becomes the simulated and tremendously concrete one, which does not produce spells but is content to bring home some money home where barely prepare a dinner at the end of the day. Stan joins this group silently and with distrust so as not to arouse suspicion about his origins but, limiting himself to listening and exploring this world, he is immediately fascinated. Above all he notices an unexpressed, castrated potential, that is the power these freaks have to convince the paying public that the fantastic is indeed a metaphysical world to be accessed and not a light manipulation of perceptions and contexts masterfully orchestrated to capture their interest and to instil their confidence as they slip a quarter of dollar from their hands.
Aided by a smile and a physical presence that in this area count as a natural talent, Stan discovers its vocation in guessing people, so he throws himself into the study of the discipline with the technique learned by Pete, former mentalist who touches the role of new paternal figure for Stan, up to the inevitable consequences. In fact, soon Stan gets frustrated by the moral constraints that Pete and colleagues monsters keep tell him to respect, that is to limit themselves to the mere circus performance avoiding the crossing of the border between artists, safe in a context that protects them, and scammers, indistinguishable from those who live in the world of non-freaks. Limits that keep standing the fragile balance between the two worlds, the monsters excluded from society and consciously confined to a circus that allows them to survive sheltered from the merciless judgment of the non-freaks, who are instead free to visit them to be consciously duped, buying a look over the fantastic. As soon as this balance is questioned, the monopoly of small bourgeois violence comes to make it clear who is subordinate to who, with summary arrests and intimidation. And it is precisely on this occasion that the film changes: Stan exposes himself in defense of the submissive new family he has joined by exploiting what he has learn to make the fearful local sheriff fall in all his trains. A proof that will definitely convince him to have the necessary skills to abandon the nest, because he is not a selfless paladin, but a pathological narcissist.
Unable to accept his nature and the role that the monsters would like to reserve him for his good, Stan is inevitably led to fill his emptiness of identity by compensating for his profound insecurity with a spasmodic desire to achieve everything his ability is able to conquer, escaping from the circus to take the world "and everything it contains", just like the aforementioned Tony Montana of De Palma. The only thing of which Stan is convinced is that he does not want to waste his life like the father he lost and the father he acquired in the circus, both united by resignation due to insecurities who led them to lose the women they loved. By reaction, even towards the women Stan is a conqueror: marked by the trauma of the loss of the mother because of the weakness of the father, as soon as he puts his gaze on a woman he immediately breaks his delay, interpreting the role of a lover for a wise bored wife, of a paternal figure missing for a pure innocent young man, and of sexual fetish for the true femme-fatale of the film. However, burdened by an out-of-measure ego, these are never relationships based on love, because they always foresee some sort of personal gain for him who suppresses his sense of inferiority by acquiring prestige or means to continue his climb of the company, so much so that as soon as they stop being useful to him he immediately abandon them, exactly as done with the freaks' circus. It will be inevitable that when he will feel invincible in front of any interlocutor, believing himself to be the smartest of the two in the conversation, it will be the moment he will step out of the way, underestimating what in the end was just the umpteenth lever to elevate himself, a woman. And it is no coincidence that the character of Cate Blanchette in question, Lilith, is a psychoanalyst who is opposed to a mentalist. During a therapy session, the first question is enough to put in crisis Stan and the performance he leads without interruption 24 hours a day, which he himself candidly admits to lead, proud to be able to boast of it but rather highlighting how ridiculous is his own sense of superiority with which he acts as a great connoisseur of the human mind, in reality clearly kept in hand without effort by a true professional of the matter. Lilith who is in turn a monster, full of rage ready to unleash on those who have hurt her in the past combined with a dramatic solitude, which will make her risk falling in love with Stan while maneuvering him like a pawn to get to his purposes: a true femme-fatale, in some ways similar to the anti-hero of the story, in others his nemesis and antagonist, making the erotic attraction between the two inevitable.
The movie finds its climax in 1941, with the entry into WWII of the USA, when patience is exhausted and the time to oppose monsters can no longer be postponed. Event announced on the radio exactly while in the meantime Stan's castle of lies collapses thunderously, unmasking its true nature in front of the world and its affections: it is del Toro's typical parallelism between the historical context and the story set into it, between the moment in which world's evil became intolerable and that in which Stan's wickedness is unmasked in front of everyone, his illusions break and precipitate him to the margins of society, from which he will no longer be able to emerge again. Lost his chance to do good, he also loses everything that made him human, transforming him into a monster with which it is no longer possible to empathize, a beast.
A film that demonstrates Del Toro's talent in manufacturing scripts as intricate as they are tight and dry, where every moment is essential to oil the mechanism that leads to the obvious finale. Where obvious does not mean trivial, but only that it is the logical consequence of everything seen previously, among other things exposed not too implicitly right from the beginning. In fact, the entire film is symbolically narrated in its initial 15 minutes, when a Stan still looking for self becomes part of the freaks' circus and gets to know what he is destined to become, chasing it while it looks for to escape from the world of monsters. An escape due to his identity refusal and to the belief that he ended up in that place against his own will when instead it is nothing but he himself the architect of his end. 15 minutes in which Stan never speaks until he meets the reflection of himself pronouncing his first lines of the film, that are of compassion while he tries to handle it and with whom he seems to empathize at first sight. However, when it tries to attack him, he immediately explodes in a calculated and controlled violence, almost as if being a routine he is used to, and for this reason appearing ruthless and exposing his inability to elaborate his complex identity, reducing himself to having to silence it by beating it almost to the point of killing. 15 minutes that alone would be enough to tell in advance the entire sense of the film, but in such a well-hidden way that one realizes it only when gets to understand where the ending is going to, and that, by recognizing the very hard sentence to which Stan will be condemned, is lead to an incredible motus of compassion despite all the contempt experienced up to there. A sequence in which the photography reach the peak of the film, enhancing the internal conflict of Stan while he is in a disturbing and expressionist scenography that does not look like it is part of the real world but a dantesque infernal bolt, where he is granted to have an anticipation of the counterpoint that awaits him at the end of his parable, when he will be sentenced to pay for all the unforgivable sins he has committed.
Very skilled in the staging, it disentangles between all the themes it touches (like the conditions of the freaks of the early 1900s), but focusing on enhancing the levers that move the story: the characters, all as credible as the historical reconstruction, used with awereness and dignity. Ultimately, a film calculated in every detail with utmost precision, which travels without digressions towards the powerful finale's moral, making each sequence functional to the story. Certainly one of the best films by Del Toro.
I think it needs theatrical cut otherwise good story.
The first part is a bit of a bore, but it keeps getting better and better! Great art direction, costume, and makeup!
Had been looking forward to this one for some time and finally sat down and watched it this evening. 1st & 3rd acts I enjoyed considerably more than the middle stanza. I can appreciate a slow burn, but this felt like a lack of quality as well as a much slower pace than had been the first hour. Things do pick up as we get to the climax, and I would recommend it overall. 6.5 for me.
At its core, Nightmare Alley is an exercise in superb acting. The cast is riddled with wonderful performances ranging from the innocent to the vile. On top of that, both the costumes and the sets highlight said performances in a way that allow the plot to punch above its weight. On it's own, the story is rather underwhelming, though it is dotted with a few outstanding moments toward both the beginning and the end. But the aforementioned set and costume designs — alongside del Toro's masterclass directing — make for a gritty and wonderful history crime drama that highlights the human condition in a new light.
There is a tendency in this richly visualized film to go to excess, to explain more than is necessary. If in the 1947 version amorality accompanied the character of Tyrone Power, here it insists on explaining the trauma as if it were necessary. The narrative economy becomes a twisted elaboration, which does not trust the viewer. It is a spectacular film that feels as cold as the ever-present snow in the second part.
Great movie ! an amazing performance from Bradley Cooper with a stellar cast.
Not my kind of movie turned it off after 1 hour
interesting is the beast-man dualism, which investigates the analysis of human desires and sins, as every man is in reality manipulable and at the same time manipulative because he constantly plays a part. the symbol of the fetus that knows the future of the protagonist and a symbol of death. nice circular ending but disturbing the message he wants to give and strange the tske about the homeless and the addicts, do they deserve it? or del toro just wanted to show how we all have the ability to become beasts in time of need. Overall, however, a bit obvious, nothing new is added or interesting food for thought.
"Man or Beast"
Nightmare Alley is Guillermo del Toro's presentation of a film of intrigues, betrayals and crimes, adding his already characteristic mystical and nightmarish touch. The cinematography of Dan Laustsen, with whom he previously worked on The Shape of Water, is truly marvelous: every frame is perfectly lit, whether in daylight, shadowy interiors, or dim night. The production design by Tamara Deverell and the sets decorated by Shane Vieau are great, the details in each location create the right atmosphere for each moment. Something that was not fully used was the music, since although at times it perfectly complements the scenes, at other times it feels short. The performances of all those involved are good, but nothing outstanding, especially because more than for a film it seemed that they acted for a photograph: each look, each pose, is beautiful. Finally, the main problem for me: the plot is too long, I could easily place it in a novel where you have all the time to develop the characters before the second act, but in the movie it feels very long, and although it is a necessary introduction, there is nothing else that keeps the film attractive outside of the images. The plot is very powerful, and the ironic ending is just what was needed, but as a movie it doesn't quite work. I do recommend it, because it's a good movie, but it's not without flaws.
This was good, but it could have been great. I blame this mostly on the uneven pacing. But there's still a lot to appreciate in this movie. It develops into a pretty standard story of manipulation and getting in way over one's head, but it's packaged in such a way that you want to chew on it a bit more.
Interesting movie, not bad and not great. Bradley Cooper is just a bad actor and you can't get around that, his real life bad attitude that equates to quite a few folks not wanting to work with him just oozes into his roles too. The premise of this movie is interesting but the cast didn't really connect. Like I said, worth watching but don't expect to be blown away.
This might be my favourite Guillermo Del Toro movie to date, despite my strong dislike of Bradley Cooper.
Nightmare Alley is that last sunset of autumn which begins warm and golden before burning slowly darker and more somber.
Bradley Cooper and Richard Jenkins are at the service of del Toro's lush cinematic vision in a film that is as much a tribute to classic Hollywood movies as it is a functional work of art.
Unnecesary long and not the best of Del Toro, in my opinion. Not really my jam, very boring movie
Easily one of the best movies I've seen this year.
I found myself on the edge of my seat, nearly in tears because of how stressful the movie turned out to be. It made me care about an objectively awful character, and I knew where things were going, yet didn't want them to happen.
It's a shame it went up against Spider-Man. People have no idea what they missed out on. Having seen both, "Nightmare Alley" is the better movie, but fewer people are going to see it. That's probably a good thing in that I wouldn't recommend this to most of my friends. That being said, for those who are okay with graphic violence and dark material, there's a lot to sink into here.
Guillermo del Toro's adaptation of Lindsay Gresham's Nightmare Alley meditates on lies, manipulation, secrets, and cruelty, with ample resonance for our era of deadly disinformation. Now (02/04/22) showing in theaters, on HBO Max, and on Hulu, this film noir is rich in finely-observed characters, moody cinematography, period detail, and homages to the likes of Todd Browning, Orson Welles, Billy Wilder, Nicholas Ray, and Otto Preminger. I got a lot out of it. But at 150 foreboding minutes, del Toro's latest isn't for thrill-seekers or viewers seeking uplift.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘Nightmare Alley’:
What an odd little film. An odd little film that ran a little too long. And it didn’t grab me at first. I was somewhat bored in the beginning and contemplated calling it quits, mostly because of the way the characters spoke and interacted. I just wasn’t into it. Then things picked up and I became a little more invested. Just a little.
Cate Blanchett is simply otherworldly. Stole every scene she was in. A quintessential movie star.
Despite what may have been a fairly forgettable flick, I still love me some Guillermo del Toro, and his visuals and vibes are always stellar. Great cinematography.
Never take a temporary job in the circus.
If you like slow and waste your time all fine by me! Stopped watching after 10 minutes
I like the atmosphere from the get go.
Dark, smoky, foggy. To begin with, our main character doesn’t speak, and no body mentions it, just takes it in stride.
Obvious plot with “the geek” getting loose, of course that had to happen. But intrigued of where this is heading. I love carnival stuff, the era of freak shows. And oh, did I :eyes: when I spotted those tarot cards on Zeena’s desk. Looks like they’re only using majors though, the fool, the emperor… the star hmm.
“People are desperate to let you know who they are, desperate to be seen.”
Oh, and a closer view of those jars reminds me instantly of there being a pregnant lady working for the carnival. Uh-oh, im thinking, uh-oh. But that story didn’t play out, luckily.
I like young, somewhat mute Stan much more than the man he turns out to be… chasing profit.
And I’m happy Molly is smart… quiet, but smart. Hope she will make the right decisions. Alas, she also loves.
Wonder what the doctor’s angle was. Did she do it out of power only? Did they have a past we don’t know?
Toward the end of this, I kind of hoped it would turn around into him becoming a new Geek. That would be a great circle. Whelp.
Del toro does an excellent job in creating sympathy for a character we know is BAD.
"Mister, I was born for it."
[laughs hysterically between bouts of sobbing]
Bone-chilling. I haven't seen a character as evil and cunning as Stanton Carlisle.
People have said this is Guillermo del Toro's first movie in a while that doesn't feature fantasy monsters, and you probably know what I'm about to say, but the people are indeed the monsters of this movie, front and center.
Google thriller but with a predictable ending
Bradley Cooper and an Allstar cast
Why this got so much acclaim is beyond me. Was it due to the cast or because it was an exquisitely cinematic del Toro film? Who knows...it IS a very technically well made film and is quite beautiful & stylish, but there's very little substance in the 2.5 hour run time. I never really connected with, nor cared about, Bradley Cooper's character, which is a problem since it's all about his journey. The rest of the cast play their parts well, however, and add much needed color to the otherwise drab story. This should have been something I loved, but it was instead just so very...meh.
From Guillermo del Toro comes Nightmare Alley, a dark period drama. When a carnival worker strikes out on his own with a mentalist act, he teams up with a shady psychologist to fleece rich clients; but his ambition soon puts everything he’s worked for in jeopardy. Starring Bradley Cooper, Cate Blanchett, Rooney Mara, Ron Perlman, and Willem Dafoe, the film has an impressive cast that delivers strong performances. However, the main character is rather unlikable; making it hard to get invested in the plot. Still, it has a fair bit of mystery and suspense, and the sets and costumes are especially well-done; giving an authentic feel for the time period. Nightmare Alley has its problems, but it’s entertaining and is full of intrigue.
This movie is shot beautifully and is absolutely mesmerizing to look at. Tad overlong but engrossing nonetheless. And gripping until the last frame.
Not at all, that freak deserves Molly's love.
Feel like the majority of reviews are del Toro dedicated fans. This was ABSOLUTELY THE WORST FILM. Star studded, one of the best directors in Hollywood, NO CHEMISTRY between any of the characters, slow piss poor timing on the lines regularly. It was like every single actor was in slow, dumb and overact mode. The few good ones liners and interactions just don't make up for the majority of it being garbage.
The only reason I gave it a 2 was because the sets were pretty decent.
I really like this movie, the visuals are amazing it has suspense and drama Bradley Cooper did a great job I recommend thisb
Shout by Emanuel LopezVIP 2BlockedParent2021-12-18T04:04:33Z
This movie was a good watch. I don't think it was del Toro's best work, but it was good none the less.
My favorite thing about this movie was the way it was shot. The whole cinematography was amazing. The feeling of the movie was on point as well. You really felt like you were transported back in time into the 1940's.
I disliked the overall pacing of the movie. It's on the slow side, especially the 2nd act. I would have gave this movie an extra star if it wasn't for that long and slow middle part of the movie. The beginning of the movie really draws you in to this world. And the third act is when this movie really shines.
The whole cast gave really good performances. The writing was good too, nothing to cliche. Del Toro really is good at creating a unique atmosphere to his work, and this movie is no exception.
Overall this movie was good. Not great, not amazing, just good.