Hated it.As simple as that.Terrible way to take the series to. I mean it's not as bad as the prequels, because the acting is quite all right, but it hits so many bullshit moments where I was facepalming every other scene it's unbelievable.
Really poorly written. Can't believe there were so many predictable moments and moments filled with complete and utter pathos. So, so dissappointed.
World Premiere Review: Vague, Spoiler-Free Edition
It was amazing. It still does nostalgic fan service, but nowhere near what Episode 7 or Rogue One felt like. It feels like its own film. It gets a little slow and repetitive in the last half of the first third of the film, but after the major show down in the middle of the film, it's non-stop action that's brilliantly paced. GO SEE IT!
Contains major spoilers !!!!!
Huge and utterly dissapointing. After TFA I said this movie would make or break the story. For me it broke.
Where to begin? Let´s start with my biggest problem.
After that rebel cruisers bridge was hit and Leia was thrown into space we saw her drifting in the cold empty vacuum of space. This was a powerful scene and I had tears welling up in my eyes thinking that would be a great ending for the character dying how she always lived. Fighting. I did not realise, or care, that it would have been a huge coincidence had they written this scene at that point not knowing Carrie would pass away. But as I said powerful scene. And then she opens her eyes and floated back into the ship still beeing alive. At that point I was seriously considering leaving the cinema. It´s scifi but, please, without as much as a hint of an explanation that is just awful writing. It is Disney all over it. Anyway I stayed and watched the rest but in general I was done with the movie.
There are tons of other things I didn´t like.
way to much unnessesary and stupid humor. Most of the time it does not fit and just destroys scenes. Holding for General Hux - that might have been OK once but two or three times it just becomes goofy. And there is more of this througout the movie.
the writing was all over the place. So much things going on that do little to nothing for the general plot and just add playtime. Like that whole thing with the codebreaker, going to the casino. Just sugarcoating CGI.
and speaking of playtime - way too long. About five times towards the end I thought it was over. It could have ended when the reached the rebel base- no let´s add another battle. When they realised they where trapped. With Luke going out to face Kylo. At some point I would have been OK with the movie ending with the First Order defeating the rebels, everyone dying, and the franchise done with. But of course that is not happening and the movie ends.....no, just show us a kid with a broom looking at the stars and indicate he could be the hero of a future movie.
in many ways the continuation of storylines is not satisfiying. They introduce Snoke in the first movie without an explanation who he is, where he comes from and how he got there. Would have been OK, could have done later. So now he´s dead without so much as a fight and there are questions left to be answered.
what about Rey ? Are we really to believe her parents were some drunk and drifting scavengers that sold her for money like Ren said ? That would be very stupid because how in the universe could she master the Force in ways even the best Jedis or Sith couldn´t without as much as years of training. Another void in the storytelling.
too many, shall I call them, homage scenes ? A lot of times I felt I had already seen this movie. The scene in the throne room f.e. Snoke = Emperor, Rey = Luke, Ben = Vader, the destruction of the rebel fleet playing in the background and the Ben killing Snoke is like Vader killing the Emperor. I know that was said about TFA as well but I feel it´s much worse here. The Battle of Hoth reviseted would be another thing where they re-did some scenes to a T. All that was left was tow cables.
Those are just some examples of the things I disliked and maybe there could be satisfactory explanation later. There is a lot more but it would take too much time to write it down. But I doubt I will go to the cinema for the next one.
To be fair there where some positives in this movie.
I liked the scenes with Rey and Luke althought they did not really lead anywhere. But some nice insights into Lukes story after ROTJ.
The conversations between Kylo and Rey where very interesting and I thought there was really potential to steer the story to something new and exciting. Not happening.
So overall I was not satisfied. I really like TFA, it built some expectations that where all crushed with this. As far as I am concerned I am done with this new story. I am not not very eager to find out what else the canibalise and how they try to write themselves out of this. There is nothing left.
This is my view of the movie. If you liked it I´m happy for you.
May the Force be with us. Always.
Perhaps Alyssa Rosenberg, writing for The Washington Post, has said it best: “’The Last Jedi’ probably works best if it’s a movie you want to surrender to, rather than one you want to ponder deeply.”
My curse is that I cannot prevent myself from pondering deeply (perhaps obsessively), so you can probably guess where I stand on this latest entry in the Star Wars saga. And, no, I don’t think the film is at all bad. It’s a decent, popcorn blockbuster that will make Disney a billion dollars and launch God knows how many Porg-centric side-stories. But part of me does feel as if many of the changes they made only serve to suck the air out of the Star Wars I knew (and, at times, replace that air with a bit too much nitrous oxide). Of course, whether you agree with this or not, I'm probably not going to change your mind. And that's cool. But I do want to take some time to examine three key categories where – for OG Star Wars fans – I believe this film fell short of expectations, or maybe even went entirely off-road.
You could argue that well-established Star Wars characters need to have profound angst-filled character arcs to make them compelling to new fans. Or alternatively, you could argue that manhandling beloved characters like Luke Skywalker and General Leia is a blasphemy that should get you thrown in the spice mines of Kessel.
I’m not going to get into Luke too much, because he plays a key role here and I don’t want to end up spoiler-masking this entire section. So, I will say the following: This isn’t the Luke we have all come to know over the course of this saga.
Everything about Luke’s values, his determination, and his motivations has completely changed. Overall, this character may as well have been a completely different reclusive Jedi atheist. Even before the fall of his Jedi Academy (that supposedly altered his character so much), we are expected to believe that the same Luke Skywalker who kept hope in redeeming Darth Vader (and stubbornly refused to kill the Emperor in anger) was stunned into a sudden child-murdering impulse upon being faced with the equivalent of a naughty schoolboy? And – worse yet – ever since making that fleeting, impulsive misstep, Luke’s been utterly incapable of forgiving himself? And – worst of all – Luke is so in thrall to this stupid, stubborn, selfish emotionalism that it’s led to him losing interest in the ongoing safety of his sister? Never mind the increasingly-miserific state of the galaxy?
Not only is this not my Luke Skywalker, but this is not how any true Jedi would behave after years of instruction in the ways of the Force. Luke's bitter self-loathing is simple egotism, and the type of response to personal failure that we might expect to see from an impetuous, prideful apprentice like Kylo Ren. 'The Last Jedi' tells us that 40+ years of living as a Jedi has done absolutely nothing to improve Luke Skywalker’s character. If anything, it has made him more narrow-minded, less generous with himself, and so anxious about what people might think of him that he chooses social isolation and passive suicidality. I don’t understand how more fans aren’t completely enraged about the decisions they’ve made about this character. It’s nothing less than a travesty.
And, speaking of where this film goes off-road, the not-so-subtle sexual-assault allegory nestled in Luke’s temptation (Hint: Kylo awoke in the middle of the night with his weird uncle / religious studies teacher standing over his bed with a crazy look in his eyes and brandishing his light saber) is nothing short of baffling.
Putting the travesty of Luke aside, there’s also the batshit crazy way Leia’s latent force powers express themselves, which goes against everything we’ve been shown about her abilities so far. We know that Leia’s force sensitivity gravitates toward the intuitive – she has claimed to ‘know’ things, like her true relation to Luke, and we’ve seen her respond to deaths from afar on a few occasions. So, why on God’s green earth does Rian Johnson feel that turning Leia into a super-powered tardigrade is at all appropriate? And if Leia possesses this level of mastery as an untrained Jedi, she should be putting those skills to better use with the Resistance. It is undoubtedly the most ridiculous scene in the entire film, and it only makes the Resistance look dumb for not using its human resources effectively, and it makes Leia look selfish for failing to develop abilities that are an obvious benefit. “Excuse me while I whip out my advanced force powers to save my royal ass from the vacuum of space, but as far as this Resistance goes, all I’m going to do is look perpetually concerned and provide sage advice.”
It would be negligent to fail to mention how hard this film also fails the Chewbacca character. Gone are the days when we might consider Chewie an equal to his less-hairy counterparts. 'The Last Jedi' happily sacrifices his agency and autonomy to Rey's storyline, and he spends most of his time sitting around being harassed by Porgs. Oh, and he kicks in Luke's door. Great, so he's reduced to being Rey's mute heavy.
Even fairly new characters, like Domhnall Gleeson's General Hux, manage to find themselves strangely mistreated by this film. I was never a fan of Hux, and I think Gleeson is definitely the weakest link in the cast (and that's saying a lot, because Billie Lourd is horrendous), but they make no bones about turning what should be a fearsome and effective Nazi character into an incompetent idiot and an overwrought, walking joke. It's The Empire we know and love, but with a little 'Hogan's Heroes' mixed in. Or perhaps Gleeson is under the impression that 'The Last Jedi' is the sequel to 'Spaceballs'.
The brand-new character in ’The Last Jedi’, Rose, is a particularly odd addition. She starts off by being an obvious proxy for the chubby, non-glamorous fangirls of the world, fawning over Finn, but she spins quickly into someone whose main purpose is to chide Finn for his privilege. The trip to the casino planet is her chance to preach about class warfare, unjust enrichment, and even animal liberation. (I wonder what kind of think-piece Rose would write about Luke milking that thala-siren on Ahch-To without its consent. Or how proud she'd be of Chewbacca for his vegan epiphany.) A political activist is bold choice for a new character, and I don’t fault Rian for trying something like this, but the whole shtick falls apart when you realize that Rose is bitching out Finn, a guy who has spent his entire life enslaved by the First Order. As a sanitation worker. So, yeah, let’s pause for a moment to give Finn a lesson on the shameful benefits of his social, political and economic circumstance. He only had his spine plasma-welded into pieces by a fascistic government representative one episode ago.
And don't even get me started about Captain Phasma.
You can argue that maybe the Star Wars universe needs a period of aggressive expansion, and that Rian Johnson is just the creative genius to do this. Or, alternatively, you could argue that this film exceeds the established boundaries of the universe that George Lucas created, and it does so in ways that aren’t helpful, or necessary, or true to the spirit of universal myth that have always under-girded the Star Wars films.
’The Last Jedi’ subtly adds a lot to the Star Wars universe, perhaps without fully acknowledging the consequences. And not only are many of these additions a future liability, but much like casino planets, they edge the franchise another step toward it becoming ’Battlestar Galactica’ (along with the rebooted Kelvin-timeline Star Trek property).
War profiteers exist in Star Wars now. That's a decidedly politically-minded addition. I used to think the Empire was fueled entirely by a high planetary tax-rate and Wookiee slave miners, and that the Rebels recycled and upgraded abandoned tech for their own purposes. But, no. Now we must consider the ethics of enriching weapons manufacturers and consider the planetary populations who rely on that income. It doesn't seem like a huge change, but it completely transforms the economic realities of the Star Wars universe.
The Force "balances itself" in Star Wars now. We are told that however powerful the Dark Side gets, the Light Side will rise up to meet it. And, we assume, vice versa. Again, not a huge-seeming change, but it does beg the question: Do Rey's force powers exist because of Kylo? Even more problematic, this addition seems to preclude the possibility of a major, lasting victory on either side, doesn't it? Did they just turn the Star Wars universe into a Republicans vs. Democrats scenario?
Spacefaring vessels need to worry about fuel now. This may seem like a casual addition, but this is actually huge. I believe this is the first time that the equivalent of dilithium crystals has ever been discussed in Star Wars. Luke was able to fly from Hoth to Dagoba in his X-wing, and then on to Cloud City. I’m not saying that an X-wing should be a perpetual motion machine, but fuel wasn’t a consideration because it could only stall the plot. Kind of like the need for a toilet. If the plot requires something to stymie (or put a time-limit on) your escape, there are many other ways to disable a spaceship. Like Lando's ugnaught lackeys on Cloud City sabotaging your hyperdrive.
’The Last Jedi’ also significantly expands the growing list of Force-related powers. In addition to Force Suspend Blaster Bolt, we have Force Skype (facilitated by Snoke), and Force Astral Projection. I’m actually fine with force powers that allow far-distant characters to interact with each other, but ’The Last Jedi’ really cranks them to 11. Putting aside the fact that a Jedi with Force Projection powers who can appear anywhere at any time is kind of a world-breaker, it was also an unnecessary addition, since there’s no narrative reason that Luke couldn’t have shown up on Crait in the flesh. Rey got there in time.
And, personally, I think the fact that Luke didn’t make the trip kind of takes the air out of his final scene with Leia, as well as his eventual sacrifice for the Resistance. Honestly, once we were shown that Luke wasn’t really there, I immediately became convinced that Luke was already dead and that he was merely trolling Kylo with his Force Ghost. So I turned out to be half correct, but when Luke finally did die of exhaustion, I had already unpacked, worn, and repacked my grief. So it became another example where the air was sucked out of a scene because the audience wasn’t standing firmly on what we’ve come to know about this universe.
The same goes with Vice Admiral Holdo’s weaponized lightspeed jump. It’s a fantastic concept, it looks great, and it was a shocking moment to be sure, but it also breaks the universe. Simply install lightspeed drives on a few sizeable asteroids, and you’ve got yourself an inexpensive, highly-mobile fleet of Star Destroyer killers. Hell, planet killers. Not everybody appreciates the devastation of a lightspeed impact, but a mere 1kg object travelling at 99% the speed of light would hit something with an explosive impact almost three times more powerful than Tsar Bomba, the biggest nuclear weapon ever detonated. Now consider the total mass of Leia's Command ship, travelling at full light speed. So, yeah, I may be nerding out here with the physics a bit, but they’ve basically introduced total relativistic warfare to the Star Wars universe, and it's a serious game-changer. Or, rather, it should be.¹
You can argue that maybe keeping the plot relatively simple was a smart move, in order to focus on more important things, like characterization and thematic substance. Or alternatively, you could argue that making the Resistance Fleet a proverbial white Bronco in a galactic low-speed chase is kind of boring and much more reminiscent of a ’Battlestar Galactica’ episode than a Star Wars film. Hey, wait. Didn't the original 'BSG' movie have a casino planet, too? I think maybe it did. [Googles] Ah, yes, the mysterious gambler's paradise on the planet Carillon!
The funny thing is, while struggling to expand what we know about this universe, ’The Last Jedi’ falls all over itself repeating scenarios and themes we’ve already seen. So, on one hand, the mechanics of the universe expand, but on the other hand, the thematic elements are caught in a loop. I guess 'The Last Jedi' continues to (cough cough) “rhyme” with previous films, as George Lucas might say.
Ultimately, this film’s lasting legacy in the Star Wars canon can be judged fairly effectively by asking one simple question: How has ’The Last Jedi’ advanced the story from where we stood at the end of ’The Force Awakens’?
Because it’s bad enough that Finn and Rose’s mission was a complete waste of time. And it’s super frustrating that Po Dameron’s mutinous plan led nowhere except to his being stunned unconscious. But, really, the entire yarn being spun here turns out to be nothing more than a lot of busy-work. Once you realize that absolutely nothing has progressed in the narrative over the course of this entire film (apart from there being one less Snoke, a few hundred fewer members of the Resistance, and two or three fewer First Order starships), it becomes really hard to overlook that flaw.
'The Last Jedi' is essentially a loud, colourful, high-speed treadmill that may have looked and felt exciting at the time, but simply didn’t advance a single story element over its 2-hour and 33-minute run-time. It's as if Disney loaned the Star Wars franchise to Rian with the express stipulation that he return it to them exactly as he found it. Well, spoiler alert, he succeeded.
But, at the end of the day, that’s not how you contribute to an epic saga. That’s how you make a toy commercial.
¹ Luckily, there’s a fun way to course-correct the problematic addition of relativistic warfare to the Star Wars canon.
When Finn and Rose are captured by the First Order, just before they reach the Lightspeed Tracking Device, insert a brief but pointless scuffle (sure, okay, Finn vs. Phasma, if you insist), and have the camera focus on a stray blaster bolt (or a Z6 Baton) striking a panel labeled Hyperspace Shielding. There. Now the system that would normally prevent the ship from a lightspeed impact has been accidentally disabled. Phasma points at her First Lieutenant and barks, "If you don't have a Class 4 Technician down here repairing this subsystem by the time I return from executing this traitor and his new Resistance sweetheart" — Finn and Rose look at each other with innocent anime-character eyes — "you will be the next one thrown out the airlock."
Then, later, when Vice Admiral Holdo is piloting the cruiser to cover for the departure of the transports, have C3P0 radio her with an urgent message. “I’m so sorry to interrupt,” says C3P0. “But R2D2 insists that I relay some technical information that he feels may be of some interest to you." (You are reading this in Anthony Daniels' voice, right?) "R2D2 claims that his sensors are picking up indications that the Star Destroyer Supremacy has somehow lost functionality of its Hyperspace Shielding subsystem.” A beautiful look of dawning realization blooms on Holdo’s usually-serious face, and she leaps into action to seize this super-rare (possibly… providential?) opportunity to weaponize a lightspeed jump.
I’m certainly no script doctor a la Carrie Fisher, but see how easy that was? Not only does this fix the introduction of some problematic science, but it makes Finn and Rose’s mission not entirely worthless, it gives Phasma something more to do, it intimates that the Force may be playing a subtle background role, and it allows for a moment of teamwork/heroism on the part of our OT droids.
This was......... weirdly written.......... Somehow the characters you have never seen before get better emotional scenes than the ones you have. Holdo, who?
"This is not going to go the way you think"
That's what kept happening to me. I thought one thing was going to happen and then something entirely different happens. I find that very entertaining. I really liked the way this was shot, the editing was fantastic. It was a little long. I really liked what Rian Johnson was able to expand on this universe while still focusing on a Skywalker story. I think the new Star Wars trilogy he is in charge of is in good hands.
I need a little more time to digest the movie and I would like to see it again before I give all my thoughts on the story. This felt like its own story and not a rehash at all. I think this is going into a very interesting direction. I look forward to seeing what J.J. Abrams can do.
After a second viewing I still really like this. I think it moves the story and universe forward. Not much happens directly happens between the First Order and the Resistance. A lot of resistance die and their base is blown up but that’s nothing new for them and they did blow up the First Order’s base in TFA. The main point of the movie is character development. Like Kylo Ren said, "Let the past die." I think that is what this movie does. And not just because Luke dies or Snoke dies but they aren't going to rely on the original trilogy for everything.
I think part of the reason this movie having some fan backlash is because this movie does its own thing. It takes what The Force Awakens sets up and just kills certain plot points people have been theorizing about for 2 years. If you just sit back and go with what the movie is trying to accomplish then you will have a better time then trying to fight everything this movie does.
Rey's Parents: Nobodies. Unexpected but I can totally buy i . Especially with the last shot on the orphan kid with force powers. The Force was trying to balance itself matching Kylo Ren with Rey. I know people wanted her to be a Kenobi but I think this is more interesting.
Snoke's backstory: We got nothing. He is killed off without finding out anything about how he rose to power. Was he someone we would of known from before or are we just spoiled and expect him to be someone? Did Kylo Ren want his power or was he just trying to get away from him.
Luke training Rey: We all thought this was going to be like Yoda training Luke in Empire Strikes Back but it goes in an unexpected direction. There really wasn't any training. Rey has the Jedi books but will that help her? Maybe Luke will come back as a Force Ghost to coach her like Ben did for him.
Yoda coming back, as a puppet, was great to see. Luke and Leia's "reunion" was also nice to see. The Crait landscape was really cool with all the salt and red dirt. Crystal Critters and Porgs are specifically in here to sell toys. I totally thought they were going to be annoying but I was surprised and I actually really like Porgs.
There were some things I thought were a little stupid. Leia saving herself using the force to fly? I was genuinely shocked because I knew they weren't going kill her off after Carrie Fisher's unfortunate death but I thought maybe they would. Her having strong force powers I assumed but her never really using them and then all of a sudden flying to save her life was a little Deus Ex Machina.
Finn and Rose's story was my least favorite of the three main plot lines. It felt a little point less. Why did Finn call Maz too? He barley knows her. So they go find a code breaker, which happened to be played by Justin Theroux and I got super excited because I love The Leftovers TV show, but it just was a cameo. Benicio Del Toro's DJ was an interesting character. He is right, there are no good guys and bad guys, only people who are looking for personal gain whether it is ruling the Galaxy or more money. Is Phasma dead now? She fell into fire but I hope she can come back. She still really hasn't done much. It really is this plot line that expands the universe with weapon dealers and Force sensitive orphans and most of new creatures. I think this is what Rian Johnson's new trilogy could be the most like, more of a political drama with interesting new planets and creatures then a space epic. That might not be what people want from Star Wars but as a fan of Sci-fi I'm excited to see what he can do.
If The Force Awakens was about looking back and connecting it to the past, The Last Jedi was about looking forward and looking to the future.
This movie is right behind TFA for me. Here is a list of my personal rankings of all the Star Wars movies:
Other than the paid critics, who liked this movie? So disappointing and a complete waste of my time and money. Rian Johnson should be fired from Disney. Well done Rian, I didn't think it was possible but you made a film worse than Star Wars Episode 1.
totally and completely disappointing. The influence of Disney was more than obvious, what was with all the comic relief? this is star wars not The princess bride. The casino scene was totally out of scope, Luke was out of character and completely bad, and of course there was no plot or story, just a Mashup of the first three star wars. I want to thank all the actors and director who ruined the movie.
It started off good the first few minutes then went downhill from there and never came back. It's a movie void of emotional depth and a film that treats their legacy characters like second class citizens. Disney just killed off another franchise. But hey, at least its better than VII because of the directing. But that still doesn't save this movie.
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Very simple: "Empire Strikes Back" is at the top. And right below it is "The Last Jedi"!!! In my humble opinion; This was so satisfying, so gratifying, and just amazing!! This time around, I decided to stay away from all the spoilers and rumors (I should've done that with "Force Awakens" and "Rogue One") and went in as a fan of the franchise, but more importantly as a fan of Movies in general. I'm not a critic nor an "expert" but I can tell you that Rian Johnson did a hell of a job!!!! It was a rollercoaster of emotions!! Hopefully J.J. Abrams will pick up where Rian left off and end the Skywalker saga with a bang!!! The franchise is in good hands, Rian Johnson just gave us a taste of what his "New Trilogy" is gonna be like. But don't take my word for it, nor the negative reviews either.....GO SEE IT!!!!!!!!
Hell yeah, can't wait for this!
I was so disappointed in this film. Many reasons, however my top 5 are below:1. Luke Skywalker was a sulking version of his younger self. He is a Jedi master who can't control his emotions but pouts and argues and then goes back on his word. Mark Hamil and Luke' character deserved better.2. Not a single light saber duel....3. The final battle scene, though slightly exciting, was underwhelming. Kylo Ren, who can stop a blaster bolt in mid air, can barley defeat those red guards. It should have had Snokes fighting both of them, which leads into #44. Snokes character is just killed off...nothing spectacular, not a worthy death to someone so powerful5. The whole casino plot...stupid
I had none of the nostalgia that the Force Awakens gave me. What is there to look forward to in the next film....what was set up? What questions do we have other than...why was the Last Jedi so lame...
Final thought....Superwoman Leah????
This movie has the worst plot of all the saga, a lot of WTF moments, and corrupts one of the best characters of the star wars universe. In regards to the plot, the rebels are being chased by the first order's destroyers at light speed, so Admiral Holdo, the lady with pink hair (they don't even care to give her a proper background) is the highest rank on duty (at the time, Price Leia is in the infirmary). She has a plan but tells none. That makes the rest of the crew think she will destroy everything the rebellion worked for, sosome of them go rogue. The conflict the film is based on a communication problem... Like i said, theres A LOT of absurd scenes that will most certainly make you facepalm, like the moment when the spaceship's bridge of the rebels is blown to pieces you see Leia dead floating in space, when she suddenly starts flying back to the ship; or when Snoke, the most powerful man in the First Order gets killed by Ren's dumb trick...Finally, in my opinion, this chapter corrupted (and even destroyed) Luke's character. Once a legend, he is portaited as a coward that even tried to kill his own nephew. The film tries to redeem him at the end, but it doesn't quite do it. If you expect a fan service fiIm, you will be satified, since there's a ton of references, but if you expect something more, i suggest you save your money.
I couldn't believe it. To be honest, it feels like a pilot for an awful series. Star Wars truly ended in 1983.
Not sure about this movie. I‘m a die hard, hardcore Star Wars fan, but something about this feels off. It may be true that this was better than TFA and R1, but I know for sure that I was a lot happier after those movies. Rey did not get proper training from Luke even though that was the whole reason why she went there and that was what we were hoping it would happen. It doesn’t. At least not anything that comes close to what Luke went through on Dagobah. Also ... Luke dies from exhaustion. Wtf. I loved the reveal after the big fight that was genius. But then he dies from exhaustion? C'mon now.
Pure entertainment! As a fan of cinema but not so much the Star Wars saga (I liked the original three and Rogue One, basically) I found this installment to be a very entertaining film with heart, action and a good story. The cinematography is often breathtaking and the special effects are strong in this one. Perhaps one too many cliffhangers, but it's hard to fault a film for having too many action sequences. In a year that's had many disappointing big budget action films, The Last Jedi is one of the best.
Too long, too silly and too Disney. This will be my LAST star wars movie.
That was incredibly bad. Predictable and sø many weird scenes, avengers-like funny lines in serious situations. And that fucking weird attempt to sell more merchandise by adding that annoying bird, that's too fat to fly in irl.
[9.2/10] Throw away the past. The rap on The Force Awakens was that it was too derivative, too indebted to A New Hope and the blueprint that had started the franchise. There was a sense that the new trilogy needed to break new ground, that having established the new setting, the new characters, and the new conflicts and mysteries, it was time to break from what had come before.
You could be forgiven for thinking that the film’s main characters share that sentiment. Kylo Ren states it explicitly. He pushes Rey to do the same while she labors under the weight of her unknown parentage. And Luke Skywalker himself, the Jedi Master who won the day in those lodestone films that forever emblazoned Star Wars into the annals of culture, has written off his past deeds, and with them, the Jedi as a whole, as a legacy of failure that needs to simply end.
But it cannot, and should not. Where The Force Awakens featured new heroes reliving the past, The Last Jedi features them remaking it. It is a film devoted to embracing the power of that legacy, good and bad, without being beholden to it. Episode 8 a film that is of a piece with its forebears, but also so full of its own life, character, feeling, and awe.
The fear among the fandom is that, as the second installment in the new trilogy, The Last Jedi would be a mirror image of The Empire Strikes Back. (Though, as with the complaints of borrowing from A New Hope, there are worse sources to crib from!). There’s some of that here. As with Episode V, The Last Jedi splits up its heroes, leaving one of them in training with an old Jedi master on a distant planet, and the other on the run from the bad guys, until everyone is united in the end. There’s offers to rule the galaxy and reveals of who the protagonist’s true parents are and a less-than-savory character who seem like friends and then sell our heroes out.
But Episode VIII echoes the whole of the Original Trilogy in moving, thought provoking ways, not just the middle chapter of it. The film meditates (nigh-literally) on the most iconic image of the original Star Wars film -- Luke gazing off at the horizon in search of adventure. It features our light side hero being lured into the throne room of the Big Bad in the hopes of turning the black hat with the twinge of a conscience still remaining, just as Return of the Jedi did with Luke, Palpatine, and Vader. From blue milk to adorable forest-dwelling creatures to wizened masters passing into their next lives and leaving their robes behind, The Last Jedi is not so much reinterpreting The Empire Strikes Back as it is ruminating on all of Star Wars at once.
And yet what’s so striking about the film is that it’s so much more than a recapitulation of those films. It is, a celebration of them, a reflection on them, and an exploration of them, that advances and subverts those ideas and themes as much as it reintroduces them.
It takes the trigger-happy flyboy, the Han Solo-esque roguish type who, true to that lineage, shoots first and asks questions later, and tempers him with the reveal that the calm, measured leadership was a product of careful and clever planning rather than cowardice. It takes the Big Bad, the mysterious power behind the black-clad dragon who can shoot lightning and bark evil monologues, and kills him off suddenly halfway through the film rather than making him the final obstacle to be overcome.
And it takes the biggest mystery of this new trilogy, the question of who Rey’s parents are, that so many diehards and casual fans alike have been buzzing over, and delivers the most inspired subversion. Rather than Luke’s lost daughter or the Emperor’s scion or Kylo Ren’s forgotten twin, she is the product of nobodies, who sold her for drinking money. It’s a truth that deep down she always knew, but couldn’t accept, because like the audience, she assumed that for someone to have fate on their side, to be able to live a life with meaning, they must come from somewhere, from someone.
But that idea is, despite the Skywalker-mad connections of everything that followed, antithetical to the animating beginnings of Star Wars. Before it was decided that Luke was the son of Darth Vader, he was simply the son of some other guy named Anakin Skywalker. He was a nondescript moisture farmer on a backwater planet who was the last guy you’d expect to take down The Empire’s greatest weapon.
That’s what made his journey so powerful. He wasn’t The Chosen One in A New Hope. He was just a kid with unrealized potential who, with the right guidance and the right chance, could save the day. The Last Jedi returns its chosen one to those roots, to providence shining down on the common, that the savior of the galaxy can come from nothing.
It’s a reversion that’s anchored by the character dead set on rejecting his own longstanding anointment. Mark Hamill is a revelation here. Gone is the naive farm boy who whined about picking up power converters, and gone is the seasoned master who saved the world and redeemed his enemy, and in their place is haunted cynic, convinced he’s caused as many problems as he’s ever solved. There’s a caustic quality to the character here, one that makes him gruff and dismissive of Rey, fatalistic about the Jedi, and unquestionably angry at himself.
Where there was an cornbread innocence to the Luke we met on tatooine, The Last Jedi introduces his echo, a man who looks upon his accomplishments that have ascended into legend as false fables of failure, and the current blight sweeping the galaxy as a fault of his own that he cannot elide or escape. He’s done seeing the battle between the dark and the light, and instead sees the continuum between the two, the yin-yang like symbols that dot his surroundings and the film as a whole, the balance that leads light to breed darkness and darkness to breed light.
That sense of balance is at the heart of The Last Jedi. It comes between Rey and Kylo Ren, who feel a force-forged connection between the two of them that lets each see the other beyond the monolithic figures who stand in opposition to one another. It comes in Leia, who tries to find the midpoint between striking the blows necessary to stay in the fight and not losing too many of her compatriots in the process. And it comes in DJ, the Lando-like figure who rejects the good guy/bad guy dichotomy and sees the struggle between The Resistance and The First Order as the changing of the tides he’s unwilling to be swept up in.
It’s there that The Last Jedi feels the most reflective, even political, in ways deeper than the four-color civics parable told by The Prequels. It asks who benefits from these conflicts, who profits from them, and whether who’s on the right side and who’s on the wrong side can be so clear cut when Republics beget Empires, conquerors beget resistance, and slaughterers beget saviors who train yet more slaughterers. In all of the mythic good vs. evil that’s so much in the bones of Star Wars, Episode VIII steps back and dares to consider that conflict, that never ending cycle, as part of some larger, indifferent system rather than an epic journey toward salvation.
It also restores a sense of utter awe to the franchise. Johnson and cinematographer Steve Yedlin create thrilling, jaw-dropping sequences that rarely lose a sense of continuity, instead allowing even the more firework-heavy sequence to progress organically and tell a story rather than simply providing raw but empty splendor. When Leia glides through space to return to her ship, or Rey and Kylo Ren fight hand-to-hand with the Red Guards (who actually get to do something for once!), when our heroes and villains meet in crimson-dusted splendor in the final frame, Johnson and Yeldin show a virtuosity with big spectacle filmmaking to match the thematic and emotional resonance of the rest of their film.
But that spectacle never detracts from the feeling imbued into the film. Episode VIII is not merely a political tract. It’s not a heap of pretty but hollow action. It’s not even just a deconstruction and reconstruction of the films from whence it sprung. It’s a story populated by characters who love and hurt and feel.
There is power in the moment when Rey and Kylo Ren’s hands touch across light years not just as the meeting of lightness and the dark, but as a human connection between two struggling individuals on either side of the same crisis of self. There is meaning when Rose jams Finn out of the path of his suicide mission, not just for the thrill of the moment, but for Finn’s nobility in trying to live the most potent opposite of running away, and Rose’s attachment in saving him, rather than stopping him. And when Luke kisses Leia on the top of her head, it’s not just imbued with the impact of an on-screen goodbye having to stand-in for an offscreen one; it’s imbued with the poignancy of a film that builds the place in one another’s lives each occupies long before they’re face-to-face for the final time.
Because in a way, they both have to move on. Luke has to let go of his failures, cast off his guilt, to do as a delightfully, once again impish Yoda suggests and let his pupils outgrow him. Rey has to let go of her belief that her family is waiting for her, and find the new family who’s sustained her to this point. And even as he seeks the means to rule the galaxy, Ben Solo cannot let go of the masters who’ve failed him, of the feelings that rage inside him, and of the parents who cannot help needing, no matter how much he may want to.
But moving on doesn’t have to mean throwing things away. It can mean giving something back. It can mean sacrificing yourself, ending something, so that something else can be born anew in its place. It can mean preserving the tiniest spark of rebellion, the brave men and women and quirky droids who can start a conflagration to spread across the galaxy. It can mean doing great deeds, that will be bent and twisted and have consequences you never imagined five steps down the line, but also inspire the next nobody on a nothing planet to gaze up at the sky and wonder what adventure may lie there.
The Last Jedi moves on from its predecessors without discarding them, and moves forward enough to leave plenty of room for its successors, both literal and figurative. It moves on from the George Lucas originals, and even from its immediate, J.J. Abrams-helmed predecessor. But it embraces the spirit of these things, an aims to recreate that feelings, that core, that sense of wonder, for a new generation.
In that, Star Wars itself is like The Force as Luke describes it. It does not belong to Lucas or Abrams or Johnson or even our continually growing overlords at the Disney Corporation. It belongs to all of them and none of them, and to us. Like The Force, like the Rebellion, Star Wars is as much an idea as it is a franchise, and just as Lucas himself reimagined those ideas from Kurosawa films and Flash Gordon serials, Johnson posits himself as doing the same, and instilling the hope that one day, kids will look to these bits of awe and wonder and be moved to look out past the horizon and tell their own stories just as he was.
So don’t throw away the past. Remember it. Embrace it. It informs what we do and who we are and who we will one day be. But don’t be bound by it. Be inspired by it. As cheesy as that sounds, The Last Jedi makes good on all the inspiration thirty years of Star Wars has provided. And just as Luke, Leia, Rey, Ben, and the rest of the conflicted figures who populate the film do, Johnson reaches out in the hopes of not just vindicating that legacy, but extending it to whatever, and whoever comes next, no matter who they are or where they come from.
I saw this at a fan release that played as a double feature with The Force Awakens in a sold out IMAX theatre. I have to confess right up front that it was an overwhelming experience for my post-stroke brain and I left the six hour experience exhausted. I should also mention that the friend I attended the event with was angered by the character arch of Luke Skywalker to the point she will never see another Star Wars movie. I however enjoyed the film. I felt the acting was great. Daisy Ridley is kick ass adorable. It was bittersweet to see Carrie Fisher in her last role (the film's shooting had wrapped just months before her death in December of 2016). Mark Hamill, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleason, Kelly Marie Tran and Laura Dern's performances are all worthy of mention. The story arch was compelling, the tension between dark and light, despair and hope, the journey to find yourself in your world were all great themes, and some characters were significantly challenged (hence my friend's fury). The special effects were transporting in their beauty and complexity. John William's music elevated the performances to epic proportion. I give the movie an 8.5 (great) out of 10.
For me, it was better than TFA.
Yeah, at moments it was all over the place, but in the end everything came together really well. I did think the romance thing between Finn and Rose was awkward, I mean c'mon, we don't need romance everywhere. It brought nothing to the plot. Kylo/Ben story line was an emotional roller coaster, had me torn between wanting to protect him and punching him in the face. The Kylo and Rey vs. Snoke's guards bit was great, I liked how they worked so well as a team. I also enjoyed the scenes where they connected and talked through the Force.
Overall, I enjoyed it, it was entertaining. However, for me, Rogue One still takes the title for the best SW movie.
What’s with the high rating? This movie was pretty shit. I dunno if it’s the non existent character development, what was the point of the Chinese girl character?? Or whether it’s just a cartoon I’ve long grown out off. Such a long film with so little substance, so little emotion, so forgettable. 5/10, mostly tedious.
Okay. So. Star Wars The Last Jedi. Late comment. This is sort of a mixed bag. It does feel like a film for kids/teens and fangirls (or their parents). A jumbled mess with dumb characters' decision.
But it is -way- better than Star Wars The Farce Awakens. I mean The Forced Awakens. The Force Awakens. Rian Johnson deserves more credits than Jar Jar Abrams.
First thing first: at the very least, TLJ dares to try something new where TFA couldn't. By "something new" I mean not the new MCU-flavored jokes and quips slipping everywhere but new formula and new themes.
The best thing from TLJ involves Luke a lot.
Among them is the idea of grey morality and Luke being "ordinary human" shrouded in myth. The take with Luke and Ben (Kylo Ren) relationship is nice. He is no all-powerful all-wise Jedi; he makes mistakes, he hesitates, he regrets. We didn't get enough build up to explain why Luke did what he did in the past, and Johnson resorted to the typical Kylo being "too powerful", but I guess it was decent.
The scenes where Luke dispels the myth of him being the legendary Jedi is also great. This might be relevant in this day and age of celebrity politicians when a divorce of one politician suddenly becomes everyone's concern.
And, of course, the most important thing in-universe is Luke's explanation about The Force being some sort of energy that surrounds us. Not innate power. This should correct the mistakes Jar Jar Abrams made in TFA and Gareth Edwards made in Rogue One.
There is also one good thing from Finn and Rose mischievous adventure. It feels like it attempts to bring up Prequel Trilogy serious tone concerning arms trade. Benicio del Toro also has one good moment when he explains about "good and evil" is not as simple as Finn might think. Though that two are the only good things from their adventure (we'll get back to this later).
Luke and Leia reunion is beautifully done. Great lighting, very timely moment (though things that lead into the moment is very questionable), and the hallmark score accompanying the scene is perfect. This is a great tribute to the Original Trilogy and to Carey Fisher.
One more thing: Vice Admiral Holdo last resort is quite a spectacle. The scene feels like I'm watching something from anime. The idea itself is brilliantly executed (for an action fantasy) and would make a good move if there would be another Star Wars game.
Now to the worst parts. It does feel like a jumbled mess with dumb characters' decision.
There is one scene where Leia comes back to life and fly. This is the weirdest thing to ever happen since Starkiller Base. No explanation at all (let's not pull Abrams-esque excuse "it's in the novels!" because you should not need secondary material to understand a film). Maybe it's a tribute to Carrie Fisher, or a plot point for other characters (Poe/Holdo) to shine, but even so there are better ways to do that. Maybe by not having Leia stay in bridge and affected by explosion.
And then there is Finn and Rose mischievous adventure. This might be the worst, really worst part. Messy subplot and dumb characters.
Their adventure to snatch a hacker to sneak into the Star Destroyer feels forced in the first place. Do they really have that much time to go to another planet while the Resistance fleet is being chased by First Order? The whole "we can't reach The Resistance because shields and distance" feels like a terrible excuse considering in previous materials a ship that huge would have enough firepower to destroy a shiled--and even if they didn't, they could've sent a group of bombers.
Finn and Rose adventure itself feels like they don't really know what they're supposed to do. They were tasked to snatch a hacker, but along the way they seemed to be comfortable to only take revenge to the rich arm traders and slavers that have hurt Rose in the past. Meanwhile The Resistance is in the brink of defeat. Where's the sense of urgency in their mission?
But the worst is in the climax of the film, when Rose thwarts Finn's suicidal plan in his heroic attempt to save The Resistance. The reason? Because killing people won't solve anything and love wins every time. Right--exactly after that cheesy line The Resistance defense got breached. Thanks Rose, I guess trying to imitate Oprah is the most strategical decision ever.
There seems like really no point in Finn and Rose subplot. Dumb characters and pointless quest. It only seems like a filler to meet the 2,5 hours quota. The best thing from their childish trip is Benicio del Toro's hacker character. When Finn was obsessed with the idea of "good" defeating "evil", del Toro's character explains things are not that simple in war. Just like with Luke, his brief yet impactful speech gives a nuance to the simplistic black-and-white tone Jar Jar Abrams developed in TFA.
However the writer appears to be so consistent in making almost everything in Finn & Rose quest a mess: as soon as First Order foiled their plan, it is revealed that del Toro's character is just an opportunist prick with a sweet tongue.
About the MCU jokes. Jokes in The Last Jedi is almost on par with The Phantom Menace. Even TPM feels tame.
TLJ does have very bad moments because of the MCU jokes, particularly in the very beginning of the film when Poe plays along with Hux in the middle of supposedly fricking surprise attack (do you really have that much time?), ruining the suspension of disbelief. In plenty opportunities MCU quips slip and I guess if you don't like Jar Jar in TPM, you wouldn't also like this too much jokes.
Fortunately though, aside from some scenes like with Poe-Hux, I don't think the jokes are -that- bad. It's not Avengers: Age of Ultron bad. It's irritating and pulls me away at times, but it doesn't ruin a supposedly well-developed character like Ultron.
Last: Rey and Kylo relationship. This is why I said this is a film for fangirls. The telepathy is a brilliant plot device to enable communication between two teenagers in opposing side, but do they -really- have to make them able to see each other?
The part when Kylo went nude and Rey's face turns red for seeing a naked guy--is this something from teen drama? There is also this scene when their hands touch each other and Luke barge in, sensing a forbidden love develops in our Romeo and Juliet.
The whole Rey-Kylo depiction is a true OTP bait. Well, I actually have a mixed feeling about it. This isn't exactly bad--it's okay for a teen drama and there's nothing contradicting the canon lore from this. But it does feel like some sort of Anakin-Padme 2.0.
I guess that's all.
It's not great, but it's not as bad as people made it to be. It's better than The Farce Awakens actually.
It's entertaining enough as long as you can glance over the dumb characters. It's still a mess though, so unless you really have nothing else to do it's better to watch something else.
Force Awakens is far better. This was choppy, slow, plot-holey and in a couple of places cheap looking.Still there are quite a few good bits (mostly with Rey), but don't fall for the critic hype.(EDIT: After pondering this movie more, and reviewing my Star Wars films in order of greatness list https://trakt.tv/users/kanootcha/lists/star-wars-movies , I've come to the conclusion that, apart from the obvious exception of the first movie, it takes Lawrence Kasdan writing for a Star Wars film to really shine. I guess my theory will be put to the test next May when Solo, co-written by Kasdan, hits the screen.)
Yoda 'nuff said
This film was spectacular! It kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time. It's exciting, epic, funny, nostalgic and all those other cool things. I can't wait for it to be released on home media!
I really liked it. I walked out with a smile (slightly wistful, at the much greater role Princess Leia played). This film was clearly the new type of Star Wars movie. Not your grandfather's Star Wars by half.
Amused by the initial doubters and commenters who say the hated it. This was a hard act to follow the great (if by-the-numbers) Force Awakens and the stunner Rogue One, but I was continuously impressed by the way Rian Johnson pulled this one off. There were numerous places I expected the film to end on a cliffhanger, but was relieved that the plot point was extended a little bit more each time. I also like how they quietly included small nods to Rogue One as well.
After my second viewing today I have to take back a couple of things of my first review (scroll down). I now realize that I have expected and hoped so much after waiting for two years that it distracted me from what was actually happening. I was waiting for so much I wanted to happen that it definitely took away from my first experience yesterday. Today I could enjoy it only for what it was not what I wanted it to be and I liked it a lot better.
best star wars movie after rogue one
Where do I start? I am so excited to write this review. I probably should have brought something to write things down while watching the movie. There is so much happening in this and I want to discuss it all! I'm going to try to write this review spoiler free.
I felt like crying so many times during this film, not out of sadness but out of pure happiness. I wasn't planning on mentioning this to maintain a bit of "cool", but it is worth sharing to let you know how happy I felt about this new Star Wars movie.
The opening scene, it was brilliant. A great way to start a movie! You immediately get introduced to these immense ships, this beautiful environment, a few of the known and loved characters, it was action-filled and it was funny! The Last Jedi had me there and than and didn't let go till I had to pee (it's a very long movie), and when I returned it had me again till the very end. There is a progress in every character's storyline, it was fun to see them all grow in their own way. Especially Finn. I couldn't really place him in The Force Awakens, but in this movie, he really went out there to make a difference and to help his friends and allies. Rose Tico, she is a sweet and brave character. I enjoyed the part where she and Finn went to visit a planted I didn't know yet and she saved those beautiful creatures Yea, I really like her. Which brings me to a character I first didn't really like to be honest, and that is Vice Admiral Holdo. It felt like she wasn't doing anything, at all, and that frustrated me a bit. Now that I'm writing this, I think that Rian Johnson might have given her that kind of "mystery" with a reason. I mean, in the end, we all loved her, right? At least I did. Poe Dameron, I have loved this character in The Last Jedi and felt like he didn't have enough screen time. This movie makes up for it all, I think getting to know him a little better was one of my favourite things, character wise. And then, Luke Skywalker, what a champ. I really enjoyed hearing what he had been up to and what changed him into the man he was in this movie. Seeing him and Leia together was so good as well. I loved it. Rey has become quite a grown-up, serious character as well, hasn't she? She is such a strong female lead. The connection between her and Kylo Ren was so interesting to see. I didn't expect that to be there, and I think they are very alike. Their connection was very brief and very beautiful. I really look forward to what is going to happen next with those two. Kylo Ren always feels like the guy who just can't get it right, ever. A bit like General Hux, who thinks he's brilliant while he's actually not that brilliant, which makes him quite funny, which is also quite sad. Bringin me to the last character I want to discuss and that is the Supreme Leader. First, is it bad that I had no clue who he exactly is? If it is, and you want to explain it to me, feel free to do so because I like to know. Right now, I wasn't very impressed with him, to be honest.
There are a lot of beautiful new planets and fun new creatures. Especially on the island that Luke was staying at. The nuns who take care of the small village are so funny, and the Porgs. I mean, they are the cutest things. I hear that opinions about them are all over the place, but I cannot, not like them. I'm weak. The storyline was very well written and it really went somewhere, it had a purpose. Which makes this movie so much more interesting and indulging. Every single person who worked on this did one helluva job. It's brilliant.
I wish I could have discussed a bit more scenes but I can't do that without spoiling quite a bit. I tried to discuss the characters as spoiler free as possible, which I failed to do, but I feel like these spoilers aren't major. You can read them if you want. I want to end this review by saying I probably forgot to mention a lot of things, I miss Han, I'm a bit sad that almost the entire original cast is gone, I can't wait for the next one and I think this one is better than The Force Awakens aka GO WATCH IT
(James Corden, I saw you)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
I loved it, but also underwhelming.It provided some of the most beautiful shots, and character moments I've seen.Some of the plot was baffling, had holes and felt unessassary.The humour got laughs, but almost always felt forced.
Whats next Disney?Star Wars IX: The Jedi (Disney) Princess & Army of Crystal Foxes (ft. Elsa from Frozen)
With tighter pacing, and no Kanto Bight, this would surpass The Force Awakens.Still a good film with some outstanding moments nonetheless!
This movie was disappointing, I had very high expectations before seeing the film and they were crushed too easily. The pace of this movie is very slow, so slow that it gets boring and rarely do you get to see anything interesting. There were some good scenes but most of them were very bad, they had a big budget and they made very little of it, there are only 2 light saber sword fights and both are very short which was very disappointing to me. There was basically no character development, most of the leaders were women which made no sense. Mark Hamill's Luke Skywalker was barely used in this movie. The movie's main villain which was so over hyped ended up being killed too easily in a one shot kill, I mean, they didn't even try to show a good lightsaber fight between Snoke and Rey which they definitely could have done because the lightsaber fights are the cheapest part of the movie to make but they could have used amazing choreography to make it look good but they didn't. I'd even go as far as saying the prequels were better made than this movie. I didn't hate the movie though as there were some scenes that did surprise me and were totally unexpected. In reality, I am a true fan of the franchise, having watched all the original ones and the prequels many times since I was a kid, I loved The Force Awakens and gave it a 10/10 because it was everything I had ever looked for in a Star Wars movie but this movie definitely wasn't anything like The Force Awakens.
Disney is destroying Star wars. I wish I can get my money back
Why did this happen? Why does this movie exist?
Absolute trash. Makes you wish George Lucas was back trolling you with Jar Jar binks.
What an amazing episode. I love the direction they are taking it to. People want always everything to be connected or have a backstory. No it is not better then TESB but it is better then Force Awakens
Finally they are taking a new direction and that is good.
That line right there basically sums it all. When you predicted everything that's going to happen, then suddenly get the carpet pulled underneath at the last minute. You either like or dislike Rian Johnson choices, but at least it's going in a new direction and not another remake.
As Kylo Ren put it: "Let the past die"
What I love about 'The Last Jedi' is how it doesn't care what you think about 'Star Wars. While not insulting you as the audience. Taking fan theories or the mystery 'Force Awakens' stet up, and shut it down completely. Instead, what we get is a bold message about are our places and where to find hope.
Rian Johnson absolutely kills it with his direction. Perfectly framed shots and the magnificent cinematography, made the overall experience something to remember for a long, long time. Even as I'm writing this, some of the imagery has implanted into my mind. Beautiful, yet menacing with the dark side creeping in.
Performance and characters all around are great. Oscar Isaac character (Poe) has such a fantastic character arc in this movie, that even he learns from his cocky attitude or quick thinking from deadly situations.
Both Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver are the main dynamics of the film. The scenes with Rey and Kylo are the most captivating elements of the story. A balance of light and darkness shown in their characters. Is Kylo Ren emo? yeah, if you like. Compelling villain? YES. You see good in him from Rey's point of view, but also darkness from Luke's.
This is the best I've seen from Mark Hamill. You'd think he will portray an old mentor in the shadow of Alec Guinness and Yoda. However, that isn't the case. You see Skywalker has given up on the force and wants nothing from it. Becoming a shadow of himself. Heck, he barley trains Rey, and that alone doesn't matter. Seeing him on screen gave me on all happinesses in the world.
Sound design, costumes, visual effects, and the lightsaber fights are all top notch. The biggest issue I've heard from people is the casino scene which didn't bother me. The film itself didn't drag, for me. As the runtime feels justified for something like this.
Now for problems: Some CGI scenes looked a bit unfinished, which is mostly green screen backgrounds. Other than that, the effects look pretty great.
I didn't buy the "love triangle", with Finn (John Boyega) and Rose (Kelly Marie Tran). Even Finn was just as surprised as me when this was suppose to be a thing. I rather see a relationship with Poe and Finn, than Rose. Or just be friends.
While I praise the film for taking bold choices, but it never fully goes for it. A lot of fake outs deaths that afterwards made me wish it actually happened.
It's tonal inconsistency. One minute it's funny, then the next it's dead serious. The humor isn't as awful as people have said. Unfortunately, it doesn't help that characters are jammed packed and didn't need to be there.
And Captain Phasma is still the most pointless character ever.
Overall rating: Despite it's flaws, the force is strong with this one.
RIP Carrie Fisher, Our Princess
The first half of the movie was a disappointment... It was more like a kids movie. The cute animals, the unfunny jokes and last but not least Leia Organa who flies through the universe, I mean what the f*ck?! That really doesn't make sense (like explosions in the outter-space but nevermind). Long story short, I wanted to leave the cinema after the first half.
But the second half of the movie was amazing. 9 / 10! I had goose bumps in every Luke Skywalker scene, nearly cried in the end #nohomo. One thing which still annoyed me was that scene where Finn was driving towards that big cannon and this chinese girl (forgot her name lol) stopped him. Then she said something about protect the people who you love and moral and bullsh!t. C'mon, it's not Grimms Fairytales...
5/10 for a Star Wars movie... it's a shame...
A great universe turn into a total disaster. I regret so much the fact they don't adapt the Timothy Zann story which is by far the best Star Wars story I read. This sequel has no new ideas in 2 episodes, and continue to crunch the characters we loved and the spirit of the Jedi. A shame...
I loved it I loved it I loved I loved it. It's not perfect but I still loved it. The film does pull the rug from under those people who have been theorising their own plot points for the last two years, and that may be why its garnered some hate. Put aside your expectations and you will probably love it too. Far better than the prequel trilogy too, so for those haters out there, be thankful the film isn't at such a low standard. Possibly in my top 3 Star Wars Movies - the original, the Star Wars Holiday Special, and this one. Okay, insert Empire instead of the festive blunder. The great fight scenes, deep character development, and that intriguing end makes me excited for the next one.
I did not expect much from the movie but I really hoped it would be good. I was disappointed.
Since this has become another level of boldly trashy I may not remember everything that annoyed me:- Very obvious and flat story, feels recycled, like I have seen everything already in other Star Wars movies (which worked for EP7, but at least EP7 had some niveau left)- Everybody survives anything, you don't root for anyone because everyone is gonna survive anything anyways- Bad jokes that make the movie very trashy- Mediocre acting- Nowadays everyone can use the force, without training - Porgs that unnecessarily show up in about 8+ different scenes, because money - Mediocre and mostly obvious CGI (in an AAA movie!!)- Everytime one of those civilians/rebels/resistance says "may the force be with you" it made me cringe
EP8 is a movie for little kids, which is probably what Disney wants, because kids buy more merchandise (LEGO Dreadnought incoming...)
It's been a while since I saw this now. Things have settled, my mind has gone over it all, conclusions have been drawn – for me personally, anyways.
Background: Star Wars fan since I was a kid. The Original Trilogy is loaded with so much nostalgia for me I can't help but love them, and I likely always will – nor do I have a problem with this. I survived the prequels; first with the seven stages of grief, eventually settling on compartmentalization as the best option. This one though? This didn't make me angry. I didn't feel the need to even talk about it with anyone. What settled over me was a feeling of finality. Star Wars is over, for me at least. The next generation can have at it, but I'm simply no longer a fan.
Every storyline started in Episode VII was brought to some bizarrely written, anti-climactic ending. I have this lingering feeling that the writer/director had some grudge to settle, or a massive chip on his shoulder, and intentionally set out to simply ruin as much as he could. Whether his intention or not, that's exactly what he succeeded at doing. I'm just left feeling sad about the whole thing.
But I've got the old trilogy still, fan-edited back to the originals as closely as possible. That'll be good enough for whenever I need my fix.
Very few redeeming qualities in this movie
I'll start with the good. The flight scenes are exhilarating. This sequel trilogy (so far) has had some of the best flight scenes I've ever seen in a blockbuster. The effects are, of course, excellent. Oscar Isaac as Poe stands head and shoulders above the rest of the cast. I'm very glad that my favorite character from the Force Awakens was featured much more heavily in this movie.
Everything else is mediocre at best. Most of the acting feels very cheesy. It's the kind of work you'd expect from primetime television, not a major blockbuster. Instead of naturally coming about, the relationships feel forced and come out of nowhere. As for the plot, it contains tons of subplots that go nowhere. Most of the questions that The Force Awakens raised are given unsatisfying answers, and its major mysteries amount to nothing. Old characters are handled very poorly and don't even interact with one another. Their actions seem very out of character (namely Luke). Leia is laughable, especially in a space sequence that she's in. I have no idea why some of the terrible new characters (like Hux) were what they decided to go with for these movies, but even they were not used well.
The movie's biggest problem was its length: it's excruciatingly long. The movie drags on and on for no discernable reason. Since the movie is little more than a glorified chase sequence, the extensions add nothing to the story. Much of it could have been cut and moved over to Episode IX. Where the last movie felt like an unnecessary remake, this movie feels pointless. Since these movies made everything in the original trilogy happen for no reason, I can't shake the feeling that this trilogy will go nowhere in the end too.
While Rogue One proved that an epic Star Wars still can be made these days. EP8 can't match this, but it is still better than EP7 was.
There are some really bad scenes like Leia floating through space. Sorry absolutely not believable and senseless. It would have been the perfect ending for her. Instead they make a Marry Poppins scene out of it. Not the first of a kind tho, Leia was already wandering around in Vacuum without a space suit in the asteroid belt in EP5. That was already bad enough. Then the still pathetic bad guys. Snoke gone with still absolutely no back story, That lousy Imperial ginger general. Captain Phasma still without any remarkable performance.... suprisingly Kylo made much more sense this time. Last but not least, just like in EP7 too many scenes stolen from previous Star Wars movies Battle of Hoth, Throne room with rebels dying in the background, Millenium Falcon in the Cave/Deathstar2
There were also some scenes I loved Bomber Attack on dreadnaught at start, Fight with the red stormtroopers in the throne room, Chewie eating the penguins, Luke milking the cow thingy
All in all, not the best of all Star Wars, but definitely worth watching.
STAR WARS finally broke free from STAR WARS.
It's not a total copy like The force awakens was. It has a kinda original story. However there's only one action happening from beginning to end (+ 2 side adventures, but still), I always find this a lazy way of creating a false sense of urgency instead of building a real story.It even plays with the way the previous one was a clone: the starting text and situation is exactly Empire strikes back. And the endin one too. With even a soldier emphasizing that it's salt. Like hey look at it, it's not snow, this is not Hoth, got you
Kylo and Rey interactions are a great thing. The most original and interesting part of the story. Some unexpected directions at some points, but ends up a little cliche. Rey was already a great character in the first one, here Kylo is more than just a little kid throwing a tantrum, huge improvment. Poe and Finn are uninteresting details, like in the first one.
Lots of humor and puns. Nice sometimes, but seems forced in the end. Specially with Leïa. This is definitely Carrie Fischer and not Leïa. Almost looks like they kept parts of gag reels. It's funny, but it does not fit the scenes.
But lots of bullshit:1) Finn and Rose part: 100% useless2) Leia playing Superman: wtf ? Plus it would have been a beautiful way for her to die even if it was not in the initial scenario.3) The hyperspeed ship attack: why wouldn't they do that all the time if it worked ? Any X-Wing could destroy the death star this way.4) Poe's mutiny: 100% useless5) We've known for long that half training is a lot worth than no training. What is Luke doing with Rey ? It seems really dangerous.6) So in the end Snoke was useless to the story.7) All the new laser weapons: seriously ?8) The last battle that does not happen in the end. What did they think to do with these old things. Just getting the salt in their face should be enough to kill them. And Finn ? The metal starts to melt with the heat but he's just sweating a little ?9) Ain't that a stupid way to kill Luke ?
So several useless parts of plot, things that start and go nowhere. Several yes but no but yes situations too, a little childish in my opinion. As an independent movie, it's still enjoyable. But as for what it brings to the universe, I'd take 1 and 2 any day over 7 and 8.That's too bad, because we've seen with Rogue One that it's still possible to make great things in the Star Wars universe.
Not at all what I was expecting this to be. That's good as well as bad. There were some amazing moments that definitely live up to the Star Wars franchise but as a whole, I was a bit disappointed.
Finn's subplot didn't really have any consequences. You could've skipped that part entirely and the story wouldn't have been affected. I loved the legendary throne room fight sequence. Another little thing I loved was how Yoda was more like a puppet in the sequels than bad CGI of the prequels.
This is in no way a bad movie. I think I was just expecting a bit more. I enjoyed The Force wakens a lot more than this.
This script was horrible.....beginning good and end was good…………highly disappointed in this film
Generally speaking the whole movie was quite good and fun to watch. It had its comedy lines, without overdoing it, and the plot story i suppose it was okay. I didnt like two things though. First the scene with Rey being hostage of Supreme Leader Snoke. She had anywhere to go, and suddenly Kylo Ren decides to start a coup, and give her a chance to escape... I mean, come on. I dont think there was someone who believed that Rey will make ally with Kylo....Also Chewbacca came from nowhere-he had already picked up Rey- and they were in the field of battle in a blink of an eye. Οh and General Hux....what a retard.
I really enjoyed The Force Awakens the first time I watched it. After thinking about it and re-watching it I started liking it a little bit less and less but I still think it was a great start for a new trilogy and got really excited for episode 8. The Last Jedi may be the opposite of TFA. I left the cinema completely disappointed and not at all excited for the next one. I don't think they understand the original trilogy and what Luke stood for. The story is about the Skywalkers and they just destroyed their legacy in this movie. It's quite sad to be honest.
Don't get me wrong, the movie was a great IMAX experience, visuals were stunning, the cast is perfect and present us with great performances, but the story... In my opinion is poor writing. It was less of a Star Wars movie and more of a Disney movie carried by the idea that Luke Skywalker would be back, the last scene when we see Luke and Kylo Ren (can't forget the hyperspace kamikaze scene too, it was visually incredible) is pretty bad-ass. But then...
I even liked Kylo Ren but can't say the same for Rey that is an overpowered character, for absolutely no reason, that fights with a light saber so well without any training that is unbelievable. There are a lot of plot-holes. The ending, in my opinion, destroyed the purpose of the Skywalker saga that we love of Anakin and Luke. The all "out with the old, embrace the new" is the worst that could have happened in this episode. They could have done that in episode 9, but not in this one... Comedy is out of place and cringy at times, at least 40 minutes of the movie is filler footage for the sake of showing the bad side of capitalism (Disney mocking capitalism... whaaat?), stuff that happens that makes no sense, and all the potential that the franchise had after TFA, it went to waste.
The movie itself, it is good, very well shot and beautiful but still has so much bad stuff that is hard not to focus on it. I think it is a bad episode 8 and killed all my excitement for the next installment. I enjoyed some parts, but in the end it was a disappointment.
Absolutely awesome film, much better than the crap rouge one rubbish
When Episode VIII is released, the Star Wars franchise will have spanned a period of forty years. I'm glad that the Star Trek motion picture franchise was compressed in comparison, though the Star Trek universe has already existed for fifty years. Aside from both being set in space, there really is no comparison except for my love of both with Star Trek being responsible for my career choice in computer technology. I also remember standing in the long line to see Star Wars in 1977 and again in 1979 for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Space, the final frontier...A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
This is an 8~9 movie, but rating 10 as to offset all the delusional veteran fans.
The porgs were the best part of this movie. That's how mediocre and uneven it is.
Direction, effects, music, photography, acting, etc. was really amazing as always. Didn't like the story too much – was expecting something more like episodes VII or Rogue One, but was disappointed. Basically everything was predictable and there was a little too many joke moments (just like Marvel or Disney is used to in their other movies).Maybe a rewatch of all of them can change my mind, but so far this is nearer to episode I than any other movie…
The overall story was excellent. That being said there were so many individual scenes that were unnecessary and had me actually saying "what the fuck" out loud in the cinema. Also many scenes where either the camera work was awful, or the choice of camera shot was terrible. Jokes seemed forced like the creators were saying "here laugh at this" even though it wasn't really that funny at all and just made it awkward. There were some epic parts that I really liked but overall didn't really enjoy it as much as I had hoped.
After the hugely entertaining Force Awakens, Johnson is more keen to explore new territory than tread down familiar paths and what makes The Last Jedi so successful is not just that he is willing to subvert expectations that come with a Star Wars film, but also that he has a singular focus on developing all the central characters and it is this that makes this film so emotionally involving and gripping to watch. Johnson has picked up on the key story threads from the last entry, but unlike Episode VII which relied heavily on nostalgia and familiar scenarios, he has chosen to use his legacy characters to create a rich and thematically compelling entry into the saga that doesn’t simply rely on the audience’s nostalgia for previous films. It is to his credit that he has challenged not just the new characters but also the old, none more so than Luke, whose past and our awareness of it allows the filmmaker to contrast the nature of myth and legend with the reality of flawed character and all too human failure. Indeed, much of The Last Jedi’s central theme revolves around not just failure, but how each central character deals with it. Everyone from Luke to Hux experiences failure on some level during the film and Johnson is keen to explore each character’s central flaw, from Rey’s loneliness and need for a father figure/companion to Poe’s hot-headedness, and emphasise how each character develops as their flaw is exposed and challenged in some way. It makes for a fascinating film and for the first time since The Empire Strikes Back, there is palpable sense of tension that comes from a story moving into unfamiliar territory for every single character.
The performances across the board are strong and both Hamill and Fisher do some of their best work as Luke and Leia, without ever overshadowing the new characters. Indeed, every moment with Leia is tinged with sadness, given the cold reality of real life, but one of the many tragedies is that Fisher is no longer here to earn the plaudits for her performance that would have made her presence in Episode IX such an exciting prospect. Unfortunately it is not to be, but this is a wonderful note to go out on.
Like Force Awakens, there are some minor flaws - it’s one of the funniest Star Wars films, but the humour occasionally feels oddly anachronistic with the setting and classical nature of the series. Whilst the adventures of Finn and Rose on Canto Bight serve a purpose to expand on the themes of the film, they do feel extraneous and affect the pacing.
Perhaps the greatest flaw however that has been exposed by this film is in fact the central flaw of the entire sequel trilogy - the audience’s understandable desire to see Luke, Han and Leia again has ensured their happy ending from Return of the Jedi was inevitably going to be challenged and perhaps all of them would have been better utilised as legends to inspire the new. It is to the credit of both Abrams and Johnson that their inclusion has never felt wasted or betrayed, but as the saga inevitably moves beyond the past and embraces new characters, one can’t help feeling regret and sadness that the fairy tale nature of a happy ending has been exposed by age and inevitable death.
But that shouldn’t detract from a film that delivers everything one would hope for in a Star Wars film. It is the balance of old and new elements that Johnson has got spectacularly right, delivering the requisite moments of adventure, fun and spectacle, but at the same time delving into new territory that leaves the saga at an interesting turning point. As the film closes with an indelible image that will surely speak to every fan who grew up with a childhood dominated by the series, the mysteries of Episode VII may have largely been answered, but Episode IX is wide open and it’s anyone’s guess where the films will go. That is an exciting prospect.
a decent enough entry in the star wars franchise, and thankfully, not as much nostalgia this time around. disappointed with how easily Snoke was despatched, and the scene where Leia survives being in space by using the force was cringeworthy and almost made me laugh. take away the star wars name, and you have a decently good sci-fi adventure
Kylo was the highlight - by far.
The Rose and Finn 'romance' was awkward and forced. They were also useless. Finn redeemed himself with actions later in the film but again Rose ruins it. Their story was saved by Benicio Del Toro and the casino scene.
Leia was evidently difficult for the writers to deal with and was poorly executed, she was another character that had a lot of useless on screen presence. I feel Poe was also wasted in this story line although was still the highlight of it.
Imagery was exceptional and a really great film overall with the aforementioned issues being the only of the film.
It was ok, just that... Need it some more action because at times was boring.
Bizzare writing decisions at a plodding pace, with the insulting addition of tons of elements purely for nostaliga or merchandising. What were they thinking?
This is a good movie, it's a bit slow and long, especially in the second act but that serves to explain about the Force. It takes several risks that are appreciated and at the same time leave you with more doubts to close in the next episode. The jokes, some out of place, are not something that get you out of the movie. The plot arcs of Kylo and Rey are well developed and give depth to the characters and you understand why they choose the path they chose. Luke's exile is understandable as is his renegade attitude. There are unexpected actions of Luke; but again, they go along with their attitude in this episode. Leia is the heart of resistance and offers hope for all. The supporting characters pass much to the background that are dispensable throughout the story. For the same reason, you miss the participation of Chewbacca and R2-D2. On the side of the new generation, Finn's subplot is completely irrelevant. In conclusion, it is a good film that lists everything for what we hope will be the final battle in the next episode. It's not perfect but it's very entertaining if you're a Star Wars fan. It does not have a spectacular ending like Rogue One and that leaves you with a bitter sweet taste. 7.5 / 10
First the bad, then the good. (Spoilers, obviously)
The rebel plotline was totally weak. Star Wars is usually pretty epic, and spending about 2/3 of the film on a very slow, uneventful chase was just not wise for a major Star Wars film entry. Felt like a side-story, not the middle of an epic trilogy.
Finn's plotline was probably the worst. It was like they just needed to give him SOMETHING to do. Out of all the myriads of cool plans devisable in the Star Wars universe, wasting a ton of time looking for a mysterious code-breaker is mediocre. And then he betrays them like the writers just gave up. So much potential with the character and Benicio's fantastic acting. Rose on the other hand... was like they were just looking for an excuse to stick an awkward girl from Tumblr in the film? To make it more relatable to Disney fans? Ug, no. The casino as a theory had potential and I don't dislike the poetic mirroring of the original films (and Jabba's Palace), but it just didn't work. The people who were running the creation of the film may have noticed it was like "new Star Wars" but no one asked "is it actually entertaining?"
Slapstick Star Wars... :sigh:... Star Wars has laughs but they are witty character moments, not cartoon peng-whales splatting on a window. I like Pixar but not in my Star Wars. Having them make nests in the Millenium Falcon I did like, but everything else was, like Finn, forcing Chewbacca to have something to do. No need for roasting them so they can make funny faces and make 5 year olds laugh.
So many great characters just got wasted. In addition to the backup codebreaker, Finn, etc. did you notice that Admiral Ackbar died without a word? They really just should have had him in the role of Holdo rather than making a new character.
Okay, now that we're past all the stuff I'm realizing, more and more, was pretty aweful...
The Jedi plotline was majestic. Excellently written, fantastic character development, great elaboration of the force, and fit genuinely as a blend of fresh and traditional in the Star Wars cannon. Kylo continued to be a captivating character. Luke and Kylo's situation was excellently written and equally executed. Luke really did work like a Sith when He tried to protect the force by his own power rather than letting it guide him. Yoda was great and totally pulled a mystical spiritual elder situation that's key to Star Wars (and Yoda). The Snoke throne room situation with Kylo and Rey was glorious. And the reveal for Rey's family was surprizingly satisfying for how much they built it up and then gave a brutally simple answer.
And my second favorite element: the visuals. I didn't know I could be so into Star Wars as a work of beauty in colors and cinematic angles. Where the innovation with slapstick failed, the innovation in visuals kicked butt. The fight in Snoke's chambers and the battle on Crait were beautiful works of art.
There was some terrible humor but also some really classic Star Wars humor, like Poe's dialogue and trashing of Hux at the beginning. I was happily reminiscing on Solo's style.
Honest to say, the GOOD was so good I didn't notice how terribly BAD the bad was until later. I can see why people are so polarized about this film because... it's a polarized film. I enjoyed the heck out of it and probably consider it my favorite of the new films (RO and TFA) but at the same time consider it the "worst" film objectively. I think adding a beginning arc and making the "rebel tracking" part of the film the middle rather than majority of the film could have improved it greatly. And doing almost ANYTHING other than the codebreaker plotline with Finn and Rose.
I am thankful that I have no idea what the next film will be about. They set up for a VERY epic scale tale and I hope they deliver.
I’m very disappointed. This could have been so much more but fell flat.
I can't wait, I love Star Wars
"Star Wars: The Last Jedi"
Star Wars is dead, The Last Jedi killed it.
It will subvert your expectations, if you expected a good film, something that makes sense or is a movie with the Star Wars in its name.
It was an attempt to cut ties to almost everything that came before but failed to rebuild something - anything - new. Each pointless aswell as stupid action/decision/plot twist is followed by the next, sprinkled in are many unnecesary jokes (to appeal to a younger target audience one wants to believe) and the viewer is left with a complete mess.
Compared to the legacy this movie has, it is by far the worst film I've ever seen!If this would have the been first movie in the series, it would still count as a very bad way to pass your time.
On the other hand, it would have been quite the cringe parody (that no one asked for) if renamed accordingly.
I put off watching this one for so damn long, but now it was time to face Disneys latest...well...I suppose it can be called a Star Wars movie. It had the logo and the music at least...
After two and a half hours of anti-white and anti-male feminist propaganda, I would like to give out some thanks...
First of all, I would like to thank Rian Johnson for writing and directing the biggest piece of garbage that has ever graced the silver screen.Not only did you manage to ruin the biggest hero in the franchise, you also managed to turn the whole franchise into a feminists wet dream.
Second, I would like to thank Disney for ruining one of the biggest science fiction franchises. We certainly have enough of those, haven't we?
Third, and last, I would like to thank and congratulate Kathleen Kennedy. You finally did it. You managed to take everything that was great about Star Wars, and flush it down the toilet. You certainly changed the franchise in your own image...badly written feminist garbage.
To be honest, I don't mind strong female characters, nor do I really mind that the only white males in the movie were bad guys IF it suits the story, BUT when the story is written very poorly in the first place, and then the characters are written in and portrayed the way they are just to please a certain demographic of man and white hating feminists and SJWs, it really makes me question what the hell is going on at Disney.
I'm not going to give Disney any more of my money until they kick both Kennedy and Johnson to the kerb and give Star Wars the writers and directors the franchise deserves.
Don't bother with this shit unless you have to...certainly not if you have to pay for it.
I was disappointed in every possible way. The only thing good about this movie was Daisy Ridley. Everything else was just disappointing.
hello I'm rey, I know since 5 Minutes that I can use the force, Training? nah why. Im already more powerful than Luke, vader and Yoda together who cares if I and my friends are bad actors. there's also a whiney bad dude isnt that cool?
damn I wish Darth maul whipped my ass.
great example for good effects dont make a good Movie a bad movie, it is.
Hmmm. This is one of the hardest movies to review because of the mix of thoughts. There was a lot I liked and a lot I didn't like. Kylo Ren ended up being a pretty cool villain I suppose. It was full of amazing visuals, but that's normal for these movies. I did not like that it was full of dumb little "funny" comments and quips. That seemed to take away from the seriousness that was set up in the originals and it made it more of a kids Disney movie instead of an epic sci fi movie. But, I can't complain I guess. The more Star Wars the better.
I almost didn't finish it - took me three sittings. But I sure wish I didn't. Plot holes, plot holes, plot holes. Do anything with the force - all with no training. Survive space? Check. Use like a phone to have conversations with people across the universe? Check.
Also - let's forget plots that were setup in TFA. Who is Snoke? How did he come into power? Nevermind - he's dumb and let's his protege use the force to kill him right in front of his face. What is the New Republic? The Resistance? The Rebels? First Order? WTF?
Anyway, it's crap.
Star Wars, Empire Strikes back, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi... Funny, that's also the order of best to ehhhhhhhh not best
I'd rather watch a 9 hour documentary on Jar-Jar Binks than rewatch this movie. RIP franchise.
Awful movie with a bad story, clumsy characters and a very bar idea of continue the SW saga.
It is a movie you watch once, curse to the movie gods and then never again. Yes, good acting. Yes, awesome action (fast paced even) but ungodly amounts of high school attempt of humor (if that). I mean, who finds it even remotely entertaining to see person A tries to eat a BBQ of animal B and animal B kids with Bamby eyes are looking sad and he is like ohhh man... ok, you are too cute, I cannot.. Is that for parents to have a fun moment with their 12 year old? Maybe, but do that with a Pixar movies, NOT Star Wars. And the dialogues... oh my... wanted to hit mute just so I could forget it (does not work... they stick). I feel embarrassed for the script writer who will be confronted by that nonsense for the rest of his/her carrer (I hope). It is like Jar Jar Binks is comming back to haunt us....
Oh, and 6 because it was fast paced and good action scenes. Also, the end scene is pretty cool. The brushes shoulders off bit was the only scene I had to chuckle. You will know what I mean.
I don't understand why this amazing saga became such a disaster. When I see how walt disney ruines it I just want to cry. The only point is special effects. Unfortunatly the rest does not deserve of George Lucas.
This movie was well over 45 minutes longer than it ever needed to be!! That's before the ending credits. I will personally edit it and see if I enjoy it more. All in all I did not like most of it. The Writer and Director should never be aloud to make any film again!! Amen
I like this movie, because it has adventure, mystery and drama together and all the actors was playig really well. For me the best actor was Rey.
great movie. the know world and very entertaining. but......
new but the same but new and still the same.
new characters to appeal to new audiences but seems a remake of the old proven story.
still enjoyed it very much.
It's an okay movie.It IS a beautfull movie, very well made.. but that's already expected from Disney.Maybe I'm not so emotionaly compromissed with the franchise and that's why to me, it's only a 7/10.
Daisy Ridley is the only passionate entity in this endless movie.
There's been a lot of backlash from fans on this one, but I actually disagree. I actually liked this one better than the first one of this trilogy. It differs from other Star Wars movies in the fact that it doesn't take itself too seriously. Most Star Wars movies are serious and broody (and I am a hard core Star Wars fan, I grew up on Star Wars movie marathons, so that's not a complaint, just a fact). And so I can see where some of the sillier or humorous moments seem out of place. You also see a very different Luke which doesn't quite live up to the legend. But I felt a lot of these differences were a good thing. We've opened things up. We're done replicating and copying past movies and we're moving on. So, it's hard, but necessary. Overall, a good movie, fun to watch with some super exciting scenes to balance out some of the sillier scenes.
I liked it. It's not perfect. It's not the "Empire Strikes Back". But it is a good movie.There are many things I did not like. First of all, the plethora of comedic moments. One or two can improve a serious movie, but there were too many of them here. Then the scene in which Leia floats in space, without an explanation whatsoever, what the hell? . The writing could have been better, some lines of dialogue didn't really click with me.
But, there are also many positives. The overall story is nice. Kylo/Ben managing to do what Vader failed to, killing and replacing his master, was a really nice scene.
The acting was good, although a bit over the top sometimes.
The cinematography was great. The scenes on the frozen planet looked stunning and the CGI of the various ships was super cool. There were some CGI animals/creatures, but I did not find in them the charm aliens had in the original movies.
My oldest son, as well as myself of course, wanted to watch this movie already before Christmas when it went up Geneva but it was pretty much sold out (unless you wanted to sit at the very edge of the theatre). I manage to book tickets for yesterday though so…here’s my ramblings about the movie.
As usual with these kind of movies, where there is a large following of fans, there is also many dissenting voices. Some people apparently are going as far as to want this movie to be undone. Well, my take on that is that these people need to grow up or let go or both. Luke is no longer a young farm boy running around saving the universe. The Star Wars universe and its characters are evolving and that is the way it should be and the way it is. Time for the next generation to pick up the torch.Both me and my son really liked this movie. After the abysmal episodes I to III (Jar Jar Binks still haunts me in my dreams) I have really enjoyed the Star Wars movies.
I quite liked The Force Awakens but it is true that it felt a bit like a rehash of A New Hope. Not only does this one not feel like it is reusing old material (too much) but it also feels like it is opening a new chapter in the Star Wars universe.The FX is as good as you have the right to expect from a Star Wars movie. The story is fresh and well developed. It will not win any Oscars of course but I liked it. It makes things evolve while at the same time giving enough room for action and a wee bit of humor.
The characters are almost all good and well played. I am looking forward to seeing more of most of them, especially, Rey and Poe. I’m not 100% convinced about Finn and Rose but I can live with them. Kylo Ren do not yet fill up the shoes of Darth Vader but he is showing promise. Contrary to Snoke I do feel he should put on a mask though.
The two characters I did not really like was General Hux and DJ. The first one was just incompetent. I’m not sure if he was supposed to be a bit of comical relief or not but, as far as I am concerned, we can do without him. DJ, well I guess he was supposed to not be liked so he did a good job of that but these kinds of assholes just frustrate me to no end. We never saw him actually meet his demise in this movie so if he is brought back I hope it will be for the sole purpose of rectifying that oversight…as violently and painfully as possible.
Of course, we saw a few new ships as well and as usual with the Empire bigger is better…or maybe not. Not sure what to say about these new designs. At least they did not look like a enlarged (except for the bridge) Star Destroyer like Darth Vader’s Super Star Destroyer.
One thing that really bugged me in the first battle though was the rebels’ so called “bombers”. What kind of bloody moron designed those? They were just so wrong in so many ways. The design itself was just silly looking. They were slower than a flee on a patch of tar. Seriously, a space bomber that crawls along? Actually, why make a “bomber” in space at all? That brings us to the biggest gripe of them all with this ludicrous design…dropping bombs vertically? In space? How the fuck do they fall?
Sure they looked somewhat cool when they dropped their bombs…if your knowledge of physics is on the level of your average politician (and obviously a few Hollywood employees as well).
Anyway, on the whole me and my son had two and a half hours of great fun watching The Last Jedi. I hope the next movie expands on the threads this one started. I have to say that I was a bit sorry about the feeble state of the resistance at the end, so I do hope the next writer will not let this drag on. One way to ruin Star Wars for me would be to turn Star Wars into some Battlestar Galactica variant with resistance survivors on constant run from the empire. Now it is time for the resistance to strike back, and for Rey to evolve her Jedi powers.
Is this movie (and trilogy) nothing new nor essential to the whole Star Wars universe? True, but I really enjoyed it and seeing the characters develop too (specially Kylo, thank God it got better). Now, my fear is that a day may come that I stop enjoying them and they start doing more damage than good (or neutral at least) to this universe. Cause, you know, Disney's like: "if can make millions for the next 15 years, what esle matters?"
I liked it. I had a smile on my face as soon as the opening scroll started. Yes, there were predictable parts. But, I felt the movie kept going forward, and the visuals were outstanding. The space battles blew my mind; loved it. I also enjoyed the acting, and the introduction of new characters. I thought it was an improvement from The Force Awakens; now that was a predictable movie. I was able to avoid seeing the trailer before the movie, too. That was a first in a long time.
I really didn't realise how much I was looking forward to this movie until I was about half way through.
The Last Jedi tore a lightsaber through my expectations, but delivered in so many ways. It's very rare these days for a movie to be backed so packed full of storyline and intrigue...especially one that runs at 153 minutes.
The cast were universally brilliant, but Adam Driver's stand-out performance was masterful, and Kellie Marie Tran was a surprise hit for me.
There were some strange comedy beats that didn't quite sit right for me, but I suspect this was still when my assumptions about The Last Jedi were still being screwed with.
Rian Johnson's direction was wonderful with so many beautiful visual treats woven together by an utterly captivating story. I can't wait to see what he has in store when he gets his own Start Wars trilogy.
Awesome continuation of the saga. Although some of the negative fan criticism it’s still over all a good movie.
I really liked it! This movie was AWESOME!I miss Carrie Fisher. She was so talented.Luke at the end was AMAZING!Finn and Rose were so good working together.Rey is so powerful. Poe was genius.I want to see more.
First off, I didn't hate it. I know lots of people did for whatever reason, but I didn't hate it. Did I love it? No. I actually enjoyed the random bits of humour, although I did find myself laughing alone more than once. Overall I'd say it was not at all what I expected, but that's probably a good thing when it comes to Star Wars. We need new things in these movies, not just a series of winks and nods to the old ones.
I liked it. Better then "Rogue One" (although it is completly different story) but not as good as "The Force Awakens". Maybe becouse the latter played well on nostalgia note. Some scenes in "The Last Jedi" could easily be removed and it would do a favour to the movie. (especially the one with Leia "Space Drifter" Organa).
No spoilers here. Great follow up in the previous installment. Builds and what is there, but takes some unexpected twists that make it fun to explore and discover. I won't go into depth to keep the spoilers away, but I had a great time at the movies tonight. 8/10
the movie tries new things but still mantain certain formula elements.the different lines are well done, but others are FAR more interesting than others.acting is fine.my overall score is 7/10.