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(Note: This was the 70mm roadshow presentation of the film.)
This is a film about justice and tribalism and how the two lead to some strange, unsettling outcomes when the they are mixed together.
To the point, the film is filled with little moral thought experiments that underscore the idea of when we think it's wrong and right to kill, and explores how that's affected by which tribe they belong to. From Chris Mannix's tale of Major Warren burning down a prison, thereby killing a number of both Union and Confederate soldiers, to Warren himself goading General Smithers into trying to shoot him so he can shoot first, to Mobray's speech on dispassionate justice versus frontier justice, this is a film concerned with when dispensing lethal force is right.
But it's also concerned with how station and affiliation affect how others are treated and when something is truly just or honorable. Major West, despite his accomplishments and prowess, is derided and demeaned because of the color of his skin. Daisy Domergue is equal parts dismissed, patronized, and underestimated because she's a woman. It's no coincidence that one of the film's final scenes is a black former union soldier and a white rebel renegade cooperating to hang a woman in an excruciating fashion because it's the "right" way to honor a fallen comrade (who demeaned the both of them).
There's a lot to unpack in all of this. It's hard to say what Tarantino is saying beyond a broad level "who we are and where we're from shapes our view of what's right and who is fair game," but there's a lot there. The opening shot featuring a crucifix covered in snow hints at these broader themes, and details like the motley make up of Jody's gang to their wanton killing in order to save Jody's sibling lead in interesting thematic directions.
But apart from the larger thematic material, the film absolutely works at a basic narrative level. The first half of the film has a wonderful Clue vibe to it, with a series of characters slowly introduced and thrown together in interesting ways, where not everyone is what they seem, and the audience is left guessing, if not whodunnit, then who's going to do it.
The characters and performances are almost uniformly tremendous. Each of the major characters is well-sketched, and have interesting characteristics that lead to predictable but no less intriguing conflicts. The stand outs are Samuel L. Jackson, who is enthralling from the word go and nails the peak of the film with his monologue about the younger smithers; Jennifer Jason Leigh who gives a wonderfully unhinged performance as Daisy Domergue, and Tim Roth who has a delightful Christoph Waltz-ian flair to his bits of screen time. But everyone, from Russel to Goggins to Dern makes an impression.
The structure and performances help keep the tension high, whether in quiet moments in the stagecoach where it seems like things might become too rowdy, to the powder keg of the main cabin where mistrust grows and tempers flair. The first half of the film, where all the tension builds and is maintained, is more enjoyable than the second, where the answers are revealed, and the aftermath in interesting, but not nearly as engaging as the build of the mystery.
Still, despite (or perhaps because of) the usual Tarantino blood and guts and non-linear storytelling, the film in never boring, and while it works as a whole, the stage-like feeling of the production also allows individual scenes to feel like little vignettes, that could still be compelling or effective separated from the movie as a whole, even as they take on new meaning when juxtaposed.
I have my nits to pick -- Tatum feels a bit miscast (though his appearances are brief) and Tarantino's narration felt a bit obvious and unnecessary--but this is still a superb film from a great director. It's beautifully shot, with grand, frigid vistas that emphasize the isolation, and interesting camera movements that convey both the extra man spying on the proceedings and the heightened nerviness of individual scenes. It is also, for all its tension and thematic material, a damn funny movie, that had me chuckling more than a few times. I would not necessarily among my favorite Tarantino films, but that just speaks to the heights he's been able to hit. The Hateful Eight is still a fun, tense movie with some interesting thematic heft beneath the gunplay and quippy violence. It was well worth the cost of admission.
So I went to see this in the 70mm tour they're doing. I'm glad I did, it was a cool experience. I'm not sure if they'll have the opening overture and intermission in the standard release or not, but it really felt like I was going to a classic film viewing in the 50's or something.
Now, onto the film. It is really hard for me not to enjoy dialogue in Tarantino films. I love the opening talks back and forth as three of the eight are driving up to the cabin. And then you get to the cabin and get to hear a lot of great dialogue from the rest of the eight. It is all great, and perfectly sets you up for violence later on.
I enjoy just about everything in this movie. Every actor is turning in a great performance, but I specifically loved Samuel L Jackson and Walton Goggins. Both went from very good at the start, to extremely entertaining by the third act (unlike the sudden voiceover).
If you like Tarantino films or westerns at all, you should certainly check this one out.
Damn it, Tarantino did it again. Shortest three hours of my life. And at the end I was like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ
i feel like they could have easily shaved an hour of useless exposition and unimpressive scenery shots off this. sure tarantino loves to talk but there were a number of scenes that felt completely pointless, especially the one where it jumps back to the beginning of the day
If you are a fan of Tarantino then you have to watch this movie, adding his usual flavor with a mix of Western flavor and unsurpassed amount of bloodshed.
Slight confusion but the it comes all together and the dialogue just brings out the talent of these fantastic actors.
It's a bit slow paced but no less entertaining.
Usually I'm a fan of Tarantino style dialogue, but in this movie it was mostly talk and not much else. The movie seemed to drag on and on with little to no action in between all the yapping.
Almost one location, 3 hours and not a single boring scene.
Brilliant masterpiece! Enjoyed every second of it. Must be watched on biggest screen with best sound available.
There's a certain classic feel to this movie. Most would point to Agatha Christie and Clue. That's because this movie is a mystery, or perhaps an old-fashioned whodunnit, and a mostly well-done whodunnit at that. There were certain aspects of this film that I wasn't a fan of - and that really came down to the mysterious answer to that question. It just isn't the direction I would have gone. I would have given this movie a higher score if it turned out differently - in fact it's the second to last chapter that changed my outlook on the entire movie. I wouldn't say anything was ruined, just changed.
This film has all the typical Tarantino elements when it comes to violence and not-really-but-technically-a-western elements - but there isn't really any action. This is a violent drama mystery that focuses most of its strength on written dialogue. This is Tarantino's best work - when it comes to dialogue only. It was so well-written that it often felt theatrical...in a good way. The only time I didn't care for people talking is when Tarantino would randomly narrate chapter headings. I understand that adds to the classic feeling...a directoral introduction, if you will...but at the same time, that removes from the cinematic feeling.
Perhaps one of the main issues I had with this film was the runtime. His movies have a tendency to run long, but most the time I don't really mind...this time I did. Yes, a lot of the scenes were integral to developing characters, including backstories and overall atmosphere...but I kept thinking the movie could be shortened and maintain everything of importance.
On a technical level, this movie is phenomenal. It's hard to complain about anything in terms of musical score, acting, directing, writing, lighting, editing, the works. Everything behind the scenes was perfectly balanced and carefully produced - something Tarantino is well known for, regardless of entertainment value. The Hateful Eight is a pretty decent mystery when it came to story - and one that is sure to lure more audiences in over the years. Check it out!
110 minutes would be more than enough. I don't understand so high ratings. The movie is not special in any way...OK, Tarantino made it but that's not a guarantee of success.
Very long slow and goofy.
I really enjoyed this movie. I love Tarantino's work, however I was generally suprised about this one. As I guessed from the trailer, almost the whole story takes place in this one cabin. That had me very worried since that seemed very similiar to Reservoir Dogs. It actually kinda was, but it was different in a lot of important ways.Some say the movie doesn't get pace until a good chunk into it, however I say that this is not only typical, but absolutely necessary, for a Tarantino film. You get to know the characters (well some of them). Then you find out that you really don't know them at all actually. They don't really trust each other anymore when they arrive at the cabin they are bound to stay in.What I really did not like about the movie was the voice over. It felt out of place and I was actually wondering what the fuck is suddenly going on, especially the scene right before that was brilliant. I was prepared that a character might break the 4th wall and speak to the audience after that. Thankfully that last part didn't happen. Still pretty bad sadly. Strangely enough, a simple text would have had the exact same effect ( if we are talking old school movies, and we are, text slides weren't uncommon ), or even just have a transition to them arriving at the cabin again would have done the same. Anyway this doesn't diminish the fact that the rest of the movie was really well done.You hang onto the lips of the characters and care about what they have to say about themselves and the situation they are in. Finding out who did what is not easy, since we don't get any visual cues to what happened until they show it exactly like that. The action scenes are gory like always. Think Inglorious Basterds. I actually prefer the over the top theatre blood version of violence in movies over realistic blood (you don't get the taste of vomit in your mouth when it gets really bad, but it stays relatively light hearted).
Easily in the top three of Tarantino movies and probably a classic in a few years and definetly one for me now. I can only recommend watching it.
Excellent film! One of my favourite Tarantino movies.
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Wow, best Tarantino movie in terms of dialog. I loved the part where they showed how the gang set up the ambush at Minnie's Haberdashery (I love this word).
You know a good film when the minutes and hours fly by and you have barely looked at the clock. This is nearly three hours long but it doesn't feel like it. Not a second is wasted by Tarantino. A first rate group of actors deliver Tarantino's dialogue. Despite being set in (mostly) one place I never got bored. After a talky (but never dull) hour and a half the plot moves forward several notches and there is surprise after surprise. These truly are horrible and hateful people but you will enjoy their company.
A bounty hunter (Kurt Russell) and his prisoner (Jennifer Jason Leigh) take shelter in a cabin during a violent snowstorm, sharing the space with a host of shady characters.
Upon release The Hateful Eight caused quite a stir with its unusual 70mm format. Here in the UK, cinemas squabbled over who could show it and the end result was everyone lost out. This is quite the price to pay for a film trying to open at the same time as Star Wars and it seems silly for a film that takes place largely indoors.
So to the burning question: was it worth all that hassle? Yes! It’s more than just a gimmick, the wide format provides a solid frame on which to build the concept - 1 part western, 1 part end-of-an-episode-of-Poirot murder mystery. Giving us such a huge scope in such a tight space is a clever move from Tarantino; we are constantly aware of every character in the room. In that sense it’s much akin to a stage play - everyone is always in motion, always in mind.
As ever the dialogue is slick, the violence is… violent and the soundtrack is on the money. Interestingly, Tarantino takes a more subtle approach to directing than usual. In that claustrophobic environment he pays close attention to every single ray of light hitting every single object, the snow billowing in through the walls and even the fog coming from people’s mouths in the cold. Nothing is ever at rest, even if the camera isn’t moving.
The performances do a lot of the leg work. Samuel L Jackson seems to always be at the top of his game with Tarantino, same goes with Tim Roth and Michael Madsen (although Madsen’s cowboy is probably the most forgettable of the lot). Jennifer Jason Leigh stands out the most however. She’s mad but smart, and doesn’t seem to care so much about her death sentence. You can never quite tell if she’s got a trick up her sleeve or she’s just resigned to her fate.
The film is too long and Tarantino likes to go back and talk about what just happened - it starts to wear a little thin. He just doesn’t seem to know when to stop and one can’t help but feel we could perhaps drop around half an hour of the film.
However, once again his infectious passion for cinema shines through. This is a beautiful, tense, surprisingly nuanced but hate-fuelled masterpiece of a Western, and one I can’t wait to go back to.
I got to watch this on the final day of the road show in the most spectacular cinema I have ever seen. One of my absolute best ever movie-going experiences. The film itself was excellent, I didn't have high expectations given the premise and cast, but it really shows you never to underestimate Tarantino. The 3 hours went by in no time and I felt like not one bit of the film needed trimming. Is it my favorite Tarantino flick? Time will tell, he has been consistently putting out 10/10s for me since the early 00s - and the beautiful 70mm transfer was fantastic for the cinematography.
A film that has all the hallmarks of Tarantino's previous films, and one that also embodies everything both good and bad about Tarantino as a filmmaker. Creatively there is nothing new here that he hasn't explored before, and whilst the film is engaging enough, this more than most of his previous entries leaves one feeling that Tarantino has nowhere else to go. The credit flourish that boldly states this is "the 8th film" to come from the filmmaker only serves to highlight at least an underlying sense that nobody questions his creative decisions anymore and this is a film in sore need of an editor. The film may be beautifully shot, but the eponymous eight are surprisingly uninteresting characters, largely dependent on the charisma of the actors playing them. It should come as no surprise therefore that Jackson dominates, but equally there is a sense that Tarantino is repeating himself, never more so than with Madsen's character for example (though it seems that Madsen has been playing the same character all his life). Thus with only Jackson and to a certain extent Leigh providing much interest, conversations between all the principals tend to meander with seemingly little point and most of the outdoor location work serves as little more than window dressing. There is a fun 90 minute mystery thriller set in one location somewhere in here, but unfortunately this is one film that feels bloated and excessive as a result of Tarantino's script rather than enhanced by it. Perhaps next time, Tarantino should consider that verbose doesn't always equate to interesting and there are better ways to develop characters that audiences can empathize with - Jackie Brown seems such a long time ago, yet suggests that Tarantino may now be better suited to adapting other's characters rather than repeating his own.
Although it's a 3h movie, I was not bored for a single minute.
very very very very very very very fucking bullshit
The Hateful Eight
A western "Who Done It?", where each character is equally untrustworthy.The tension oozes with the great acting and claustrophobic setting.The camera work was fantastic.I felt that the narration felt unnecessary.
This movie is for me the baddest one of quentin. Mostly every scene is too long for me. Sad
I have a different view point on this
The Pace was SO Slow
I love the Acting and Dialogue from each Character.. The Story was Ok wasn't satisfied with the ending but it was still a good watch no doubt
SLJ and JJL steal the show.
At moments It was like Cluedo, Quentin Tarantino style! Surprises, mysteries, a film that makes you not trust anyone, keeps you guessing. I love all the characters, specially Samuel L Jackson's... Great performances from all, loved the plot, great effects and good humour. kept me warm all the way through.. Not as good as his Django, but pretty damn gooood!
Película con muchos altibajos. Como película coral no está conseguida.
While not bad (like "From Dusk till Dawn"), I don't think this is a brilliant movie, either. It is overly brutal and the story is not that intriguing. Granted, it also never gets boring since you cannot anticipate, what Tarantino has up its sleeve next. However, I'm probably not going to watch it again and would advice you to watch Django, Kill Bill or Inglorious Bastards instead if you are in the mood of watching a Tarantino movie.
Quentin Tarantino is such a underrated director......Walton Goggins, i'm beginning to like him more more in his films....underrated actor he is
This is easily Tarantino's finest work. Many baulk at the epic 3 hour run time, but any less than 150min would have been felt too short, this as a double feature length split into chapters felt just right. Unlike Django, the pacing of each scene was like some of Sergio Leone's westerns, the single room cinematography and the nuanced attention to all set details that become essential to the story was reminiscent of Hitchcock, while QT's captivating story felt like a retelling of And Then There Were None blended with elements of (7 Samurai) Magnificent Seven. The performances were generally faultless, though Zoe Bell was gorgeous as Six Horse Judy, I couldn't understand why a young New Zealand girl is in 1 9th century Wyoming?
Why did I even watch this movie? I expect Tarantino movies to be bloody and not focusing too much on a good story, but this movie was just plain boring! Almost 3 hours and it took the storyline almost 2 1/2h to actually get to the interesting (bloody ;P) part. Sometimes the rule of skipping the first third really is right – especially for this movie…
Nice surprise at the end.
Wow I'm surprised many people liked it,it's kind of a boring movie and it took forever to finish it.
Why are Tarantino's films ssooooooo looonnngggggg. Maybe it's just me but this film is blah blah blah - far too much boring, meaningless dialogue. All in all I found this film to be just too desperate.
I only liked the last 1/3 of the movie when all the back story was revealed
lots of trick make me laugh
Its as if Agatha Christie wrote a western with a bunch of gore in the final act. Cool!
I didn't expect it to like it as i hate very long movies but i find it not boring and nicely paced for a three hour movie. I didn't like the splatter of blood and other organs. I find it not suitable for the film
Eight western characters shoot it out over a female prisoner. One of them is the bounty hunter who wants to collect. Another is the new sheriff on his way to his new job. The black guy is an ex-Union soldier who has become a bounty hunter himself. One more is a Southern Colonel who is in search of his son. The rest are bandits in disguise looking to free the female prisoner. All of them get stranded by a snowstorm in a store on the way to town.
The spaghetti western is good enough. But then the movie tries to be something it is not. It tries to also be a patriotic movie about the civil war. Yet this theme is superimposed rather sloppily and unnecessarily. In the end, the cooperation on the hanging of the female bounty by the black veteran and the white racist sheriff doesn't need to be a symbol of the unity of the black and white races as citizens of the nascent country joining together to lynch those who truly deserve it instead of blacks. It can just be what it is: a revenge hanging by two hard-core westerners who are near death.
The best feature of this movie is the stunning cinematography --- which needs no shaky hand (as is the current questionable fashion) to make it outstanding.
| No one to trust. Everyone to hate.
Head in the sand I didn't know this was a Tarantino film until it began. Yes, seriously.
Full of all the hallmarks of his films, so, yes there's blood everywhere! I really enjoyed the movie, who would I trust? Who has a motive for deception? Edge of the seat entertainment, brilliant scenery, massive soundtrack.
I'm just glad I wasn't passing by Minnie's Haberdashery
the worst movie of tarantino. but, is very funny
If you're a Tarantino fan you'll almost certainly love this movie, it might not be his greatest but it is classic Quentin.
more people than usual in the film was good, but what counts could have been told in two hours. Shootings and blood has not missed :-)
This movie was a rollercoaster. I really enjoyed the dialogues, but the suddenly narrator kinda ruined for me. I was like "Damn, this is a Tarantino movie?, where's the blood? It's like 10 minutes already", but at the end I was like: "PLEASE MAKE IT STOP" hahaha. Love the cast and every character has something unique. It doesn't feel too long at all. Always entertaining. Recomended, but if you're not into gore, avoid it.
I guess I hade to high hopes for this one. Maybe 70 mm would have helped, not sure though. First half of the movie was quite good unfortunately after the intermission it just went down hill. (personal opinion)
This movie is horrible, just plain trash! The whole context is abusive, mentally and emotionally, for women, and all I can say is Terrentino really dug deep into the abusive male psyche to script this! I wouldn't watch this movie again if you paid me!
Who does not like a dialogue written by Tarantino. It is not easy to keep me interested for 3 hours and that's the best compliment I can do.
It's like Clue meets Reservoir Dogs in a snowy atmosphere. The cast is great and so is the mystery but the 3 hrs and 2 minutes isn't necessary. Since so much could have been cut out. The problem is that Tarantino's ego is so big that he enjoys hearing his characters talk a lot and I mean a lot and thinks we will as well. Even if they are repeating conversations that they already have had multiple times.
A solid proof that not anyone can be Sergio Leone.