Was this parody? I hoped this was parody. I hoped Thor would wake up from a dream or they’d say the whole first half was a play in New Asgard. Oh my word. The last third was probably the saving grace. What potential Gorr the God-Butcher had, what potential a movie featuring eternity had. Garbage. The MCU is done.
Was it supposed to be a marvel movie or a SNL sketch?
Great fun and stunning cinematography. Especially in the shadow realm. Natalie Portman was incredible and Taika kept a decent balance on the humour and heart of it all.
This was fun to watch!
Natalie Portman looks great in the suit and kicks some major ass.
The soundtrack is great. Gotta say, I got really excited when the Guns N' Roses songs came out - it's one of my favourite bands and they mixed them awesomely with the scenes in question (extra points for the AFD poster on the wall and the kid wanting to change his name to Axl) .
The goats...I can't deal with them! Cracked me up every time!
Oh, and of course, Mr. Bale (though I like all the Marvel movies, he was the main reason I watched this, to be honest). I have never seen him deliver a bad performance and this was still not it. He looked creepy as hell.
There's some cringe humor moments at times, yes, but, in general, it think it's good fun, getting serious when it needs to be.
One of the the most delightful and grand shows of absurdity in recent memory. The underlying theme of why bad, unfortunate, and just plain evil things happen under God (or gods) watch was handled with Taika’s trademark offbeat humor.
I love Thor and his counterparts, but this wasn't it. The plot was not well thought out or executed. More of another "filler" Marvel movie. If you're looking for a movie to fall asleep to, this is it.
A serviceable action superhero comedy film with great soundtrack and quite a lot of horror elements in it. I genuinely like those parts and whenever the 'real' Guardians of the Galaxy show up. The action is surprisingly tame for a Marvel film. As a comedy, it feels like it's trying too hard to be funny and failing pretty hard. Those cheesy romance can go. Not a lot to say here. Moving on.
We've kinda come full circle with these superhero films when you think about it.
After the camp of the 90s, directors like Nolan and Singer reset the tone of superhero movies in the 2000's to something that was more grounded and serious, which in turn laid a lot of the groundwork for the MCU.
Here we have Taika Waititi providing a throwback to the Joel Schumacher days.
If that's your thing you'll probably dig it, but it's definitely not my brand of camp.
I’m not exactly a Thor: Ragnarok fan (nor the other two Thor films). I don’t have a problem with its silly tone, because I’m not a manchild who needs to see his childhood validated, but a lot of its comedy didn’t click with me (even after a rewatch). Everything that didn’t work for me in that film is amped up to an eleven here.
There are some serious points in it where the acting choices, slapstick/childish/hokey comedy, overly bright colors, gay undertones, overdesigned costumes (no nipples yet, but give Taika another film and we'll see what happens) and godawful music choices started to give me genuine flashbacks to stuff like Batman Forever, not quite the thing you want to remind me of.
It's not a complete disaster; the performances by Natalie Portman, Tessa Thompson and especially Christian Bale are generally quite good. I'm also glad Marvel seems to have definitively found the saturation button back after Guardians 2, even if the framing/lighting with the visuals remains uninspired and maintains a general level of artifice that makes it look like shit. I believe they used the volume stages for most of the production, and like Obi Wan or The Book of Boba Fett, it’s very noticeable for most of the runtime.
The story's not all that interesting and makes no sense when you put any thought into it, but that's fine given that there is some progression with most of the main characters, even if Thor’s character arc throughout the MCU is all over the place at this point. As with most Marvel films lately, there is a lot of unnecessary exposition (e.g. the Korg narrated flashbacks are really clunky), but where it really drops the ball for me is with the balancing of tone and plot elements. I already thought that the darker stuff in Thor: Ragnarok didn't blend that well with the goofy scenes on the trash planet, but there's even more tonal whiplash here. Christian Bale is giving this excellent, terrifying performance, but he's not in the same movie as Chris Hemsworth, who's playing even more of a Thor parody than he was in Avengers: Endgame. One moment we're invested in this heavy, emotional story with Natalie Portman, and then we cut back to a goofy love triangle between Thor, his hammer and his axe. It's an unbalanced mess without a sense of stakes.
I also don't know what it is with Taika's comedy in these films, because I think What we do in the shadows, Jojo Rabbit and Hunt for the wilderpeople are all very comedic and smart, but for some reason he really likes his Thor movies excessive and dumb. Screaming goats aren't funny to me, they're a dated meme at best. Maybe it's because Taika can't go edgy and niche with the jokes here, but fuck I really hate his sensibilities for this character.
In short, another major misfire from Marvel if you ask me. I pretty much disliked everything except for a few of the performances. Please go back to making indies Taika, and for the love of god: let James Gunn pick the soundtrack for your next film. Even a film this dumb doesn’t need a Guns ‘N Roses needle drop, let alone four of them.
3/10
Probably the weakest Thor movie, overdone comedy and boring storyline, but of course, still enjoyed it.
Honestly I really enjoyed this movie. Was it like Ragnarock? No, but it still was funny with some exciting end credits scenes! At the cinemas many people were quite hyped up which made the experence so much better!
To say I'm disappointed is a massive understatement. A fan of the comic and characters that this storyline was based upon, but able to disassociate myself from the necessity that the storyline must be copied identically, Thor: Love and Thunder takes everything from Ragnarok and triples down on it. Where the humour in Ragnarok was palatable, this film hits you over the head with certain reoccurring themes - just to make sure you understand the joke that Taika Waititi is going for. There's a weird unexplainable adjustment in this film, it never feels like a Thor film, it also never feels like it gets going until Christian Bale is on screen. There's a weird throughline involving kids, that never feels relevant or important enough to move the film along. And often the film just bypasses the established rules for the sake of convenience.
While Bale (and Portman as well) are fantastic, they are hindered by an incomplete film that makes up rules as it goes along. Maybe I'm over the MCU format. The stories and the characters I've loved have started to feel meaningless.
As someone that hasn’t really enjoyed the Thor movies, this was a bloody good time. Hilarious, great soundtrack, great villain. It’s a great standalone film in the MCU that is extremely different from most others that Marvel has put out in recent memory. It most closely resembled the feeling I got from the first Guardians of the Galaxy (albeit this is funnier but a lesser plot). Not to mention Christian Bale absolutely steals the show. Might be the best MCU villain we’ve ever had. What was extra compelling with his character was how he was such a stark contrast to the color and humor of everything else. Every time he appeared on the screen the whole narrative did a full 180 which essentially balanced out the humor elsewhere. I had a wonderful time and I can’t wait to watch again!
Rating: 4.5/5 - 9/10 - Highly Recommend
It is never a good sign when I am rooting for the main villain to kill all the heroes.
It is also not a good sign that freaking Deadpool did a better cancer story than this.
One of the most irritating movies I have seen in a while. Annoying in terms of how every character (except Gorr) is a comedian and annoying how much potential is wasted.
The movie felt like Saturday Night Live sketch stretched out to two hours.
The movie could have been a dark finale to the character of Thor. I mean, this is the same god who lost his mother, father, brother three times, his home, and lived with guilt for five years after failing to kill Thanos the first time. If that wasn't bad enough, his ex-girlfriend Jane Foster is dying from cancer, and on top of that, there is a new villain who seeks to kill gods. Again, this could have been a dark finale, as he is the most tragic character in the MCU, but here he's just a goofy idiot. Chris Hemsworth has comedic chops, but they did this character dirty. They turned Thor from "Thor making jokes" to "Thor is the joke".
Christian Bale always delivers, and he was creepy and campy as Gorr the God Butcher. His storyline is the only serious part of the movie that unfortunately gets undeveloped with very little screen time. His character work was rushed because at the start he worth ships the gods, but as quick as a light switch, he wants to kill every god possible. Since he is called The God Butcher, you don't see a lot of God killing. The ones he does kill in the movie were an afterthought.
Natalie Portman was good, but sadly the dramatic elements of her character didn’t pull on my heartstrings. On the other hand, there are some cool action scenes with her, even though it’s strange how fully experienced she is in fighting with these powers despite how recent she got it.
The whole movie is one big joke, with no clear focus on what storyline it wants to go. The short runtime does not help either, as it needed more breathing room for development like character work and story.
I could talk about the visual effects, but I will not since the visual effect artists have been through enough already. Seriously Marvel, treat your employees with respect.
The Guardians of the Galaxy team are there with no purpose than to help Thor lose weight, and then they leave.
Director Taika Waititi went way over his head with this one. One of the most unusual inclusions of these screaming goats in the movie for no reason and there keep repeating the joke of them screaming. Like, WHY????
Is it me, or do the recent Marvel movies feel like quantity over quality? There are like a factory machine, pumping out many movies and an endless line of TV shows. The runtime clocked in under two hours, with this movie and Doctor Strange 2, and yet I felt those movies needed more time to breathe and flesh out the characters because everything feels so rushed and, in a hurry, to end.
Balancing comedy and drama are a difficult task to get right. If a movie has a serious tone while not being a good movie itself, there is a potential for it to be funny and enjoyable. If a film has a comedic tone while not being funny, then the movie would get boring very quickly.
Overall rating: The movie has everything it needs to be fascinating, yet it still turned-out paper thin.
This movie is so bad I had no issue taking bathroom break because I didn't think I was missing anything. My understanding of Marvel universe was that it was about heroes battling evil, this movie does that for about 10 minutes the rest is them trying to crack jokes and Thor seems to be trying to maintain a fragile male ego which I thought he dealt with in the very first movie, hence why he became "worthy" of mjolnir. He honestly comes across like a dumb jock, and you have no trouble understanding why Foster left him. A waste of talent of Bale and Portman and a waste of such an interesting character Gorr. Perhaps they'll do a remake, soon .
I really loved Thor Ragnarok, and I love Taika Waititi as a director, but this movie was a huge disappointment for me. The humour was too much, the pacing felt off, and the actual plot of the film was exceptionally weak. Aside from a few scenes with Christian Bale as Gorr, I really struggled to enjoy this one. There was a really nice use of colour in the film though, and I thought that it ended well, but overall it just truly felt like a mess, and I think it's easily the weakest of the Thor movies. I think the only MCU movie I disliked more than this one was Eternals.
The fourth Thor movie continues to cement Thor as the new comedic character of the MCU. Even more so then the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise. There I felt it‘s the perfect combination of drama and comedy. But in this movie it‘s almost only comedy at this point. Don‘t get me wrong, it‘s a lot of fun but considering where the character started with two serious movies it‘s now the complete opposite. Overall still an enjoyable movie that will keep you laughing all the way through but don‘t expect anything else than „a classic Thor adventure“.
I don't mind that this is a comedy. I do mind that it's not funny.
This was painful. Waititi is so obsessed with trying to make every line of dialogue comedic, even when it makes no sense, constant slapstick undermines any drama and turns it into a spoof of a Marvel movie. I watched this in a packed cinema and there was very few laughs from the audience. Even watching Christian Bale eat the scenery wasn't worth it.
Maybe Taika needs to sit down with Gunn to get a lesson in how to balance delivering laughs and drama. Ultimately however the box office receipts will be sufficient shield for any criticism.
Lack lister and goofy. Why is Thor regressing back to acting like a 13yr old boy? This doesnt have the same spirit as Ragnarok, it was an awkward rom-com… Christian Bale carried the part very well but the rest left the impression its was just another pay cheque. Janes story would have been better told in a Disney+ 6 part mini series.
I loved it—mythology and astrophysics combined with Marvel stuff. Still, so many questions are left unanswered. They better bring shit together eventually
I ended up walking out of the theater I just couldn't take torture in myself any longer why did they do this to this movie.
[7.5/10] Thor: Love and Thunder is a great big mess. But also a fun mess? Director/co-writer Taika Waititi throws every idea in his grab bag at the film. Anti-theism. The loss of a child. Cancer. Closing yourself off so you don’t have to feel the pain of loss again (Are we having fun yet?) Crossover Pantheons. Giant screaming goats. A trifecta of glowing, mystical weapons. Shadow monsters and kidnapping. A death sword. A mid-movie black and white escapades. A magical wish-granting realm that requires some mystical key to open. Remembering to keep fighting no matter what. Opening yourself to human connection despite the risks of hardship. Bringing a child into the world to share in that joy. Love. Thunder. More love. More thunder.
It is a lot. Little of it fits together neatly. Like many of Waitit’s works (including his best ones), it’s a tonal mishmash. Sometimes the film is a heartbreaking tale of imaginable loss and the winnowing away of oneself. Sometimes it’s a goofy romp where a talking rock gets tied to the back of a viking warrior king who was last seen wearing a Phantom of the Opera t-shirt. Waititi and co-writer Jennifer Kaytin Robinson marry the quippy style from The Avengers with the irreverent comic style of Guardians of the Galaxy and Waititi’s own blend of the loony and the heartfelt. The result is a cinematic stew, constantly full of flavor, but almost entirely lacking in balance.
And yet, at the end of the day, it’s still strangely tasty, as endearing for its lumps and bumps as for its elegantly crafted moments. This is not Waiti’s finest hour, the crown jewel of the MCU, or event the stand out of the vaunted/maligned “Phase Four”. But it’s an enjoyable, distinctive, imaginative film that takes more than its share of big swings, and that counts for a lot.
Granted, everything and everyone is a little loonier than even in Waititi’s last outing in Thor: Ragnarok. The title character himself has leaned a little more comic lead than dramatic lead for a while now, but his goofy big lug energy is off the charts in this one. Valkyrie is snarkier and sillier, and has developed a pronounced British accent for reasons that are unclear. Jane Foster (and, naturally, Natalie Portman) makes a return to the franchise, getting a send-off that befits the character and her heroic, good-natured qualities, while she too has her wacky dial cranked up to eleven. The whole returning cast feels a little out of character here, even if the more comically exaggerated versions of the characters are still enjoyable.
Two big new guest stars are along for the ride and, though it’s ironic given the roles they play, are the heaven and hell of the film. Christian Bale is inspired as Gorr the God Butcher. Waititi leans into the Oscar-winner’s dramatic chops. The opening scene of a true believer losing his only child amid the indifference of the gods, who swears vengeance upon the pantheon itself for the deities’ deaf ears, is grim and piercing. His closing paroxysm of pathos and bittersweetness at her return redeems the villain of the piece, just a bit. But in between, Bale isn’t afraid to chew scenery, going big but never violating the tone of the piece, and delivering some genuine creepiness amid an impressive make-up job and unhinged air that pervades each scene he occupies.
On the other end of the scale is Russell Crowe as Zeus, who represents the biggest misfire of the film. He puts on this broad, goofy Greek accent, and the mostly comic scene where he basks in the adoration of his fellow deities isn’t funny, isn’t clever, and just drags and drags and drags. Nothing Crowe does works, and none of his scenes click, save for the post-credits tease. His presence serves the thematic ends of the film -- a lionized figure who the heroes turn to for help, only to discover that he’s a lazy and uncaring coward, to where they can only depend on themselves and their own bonds. But Crowe is the antithesis of Bale, seeming out of place the whole time and making wrong choice after wrong choice in his approach.
The visuals and special effects are more of a mixed bag. The production design and make-up team does outstanding work, with some neat designs for the cosmic figures the good guys encounter, and some memorable alien worlds along the way. But the CGI elements once again look shockingly chintzy for a mainstream project with an enormous budget. Poor compositing, cheesy-looking effects, and big set pieces that lack any sense of authenticity in the imagery bring down the look of the piece. It doesn’t help that most of the fights are with nameless goons, edited to all hell, with very little sense of anything at stake.
Still, when our heroes enter the Shadow Realm, the film takes a bold black-and-white shift that brings out the best in it visually. The final land at the center of the universe may borrow a similar depiction from Kingdom Hearts 3, but still captures the sense of an ethereal place. And some of the unreality of the effects actually compliments Waitit’s cartoony, anything goes approach to this larger than life story, making some of the more exaggerated elements feel natural within that context.
The movie does depend on certain things that may fall flat if you’re not super invested in certain things. It’s right for the Thor franchise to put a period at the end of Jane’s part of the story, and it’s nice to see her assuming the cape and hammer. But despite a brief but deeper exploration of what happened in her and Thor’s relationship, it’s never one I’ve been terribly attached to, leaving much of the material falling flat. Likewise, the coming out party for Heimdall’s son and the return of Lady Sif doesn’t mean much given the undeveloped parts they’ve had to this point.
Still, if you can set those things aside, and the questions of whether everything Waititi and company introduce in a packed two-hour movie ultimately adds up, Love and Thunder remains a good time at the movies. You do wish that the filmmakers could have focused on one or two key impulses or ideas, rather than tossing them all into the pot. But the ingredients are still good, the characters are still fun, the humor is still winning. And the end result, messy though it may be, is still a dogpile of ideas and themes and gags well worth digging into.
the problem is they started to think people will gobble up any movie released by the marvel banner, in some sense they're not wrong because me and my friends went to see it twice because it's thor.
but keep doing this mediocre story and people will stop this hype train
Boy I sure wish I jetted along with the Guardians because this was a letdown. If this was a standalone movie I'd say it was "Alright", but being who these characters are, the story before it, the weight of endgame on the character of Thor and him basically monologuing past it to get to the childish jokes was a real shame. I really liked Ragnarok, but after this movie it's obvious they need to let someone else direct the next one who's going to spend time telling a story like we've become used to and not trying to make the entire thing feel like a parody.
After almost 15 years and 29 films (plus another dozen or so TV series), it's getting to the point where I assume that every big name actor has been offered a role in the MCU. For someone like Christian Bale, it wouldn't surprise me if he had been approached repeatedly over the years. In any case, I can see why the role of Gorr the God Butcher was enough to entice him into making his debut in the universe. It's a juicy villain role with a meaningful arc and satisfying conclusion. While the character does clash tonally with Taika Waititi's generally lighter vibe, that's no fault of the God Butcher and doesn't detract from Bale's excellent performance.
Speaking of the lighter tone, while I'm generally a fan, I found that there were certain elements that crossed a line into being too silly/childish for me to get on board with (e.g. everything with the screaming goats and the finale with the kids all getting juiced up and using a bunch of random debris as weapons). That said, I think things were generally more hit than miss, with Hemsworth and Waititi's Korg both providing a steady supply of worthwhile humor throughout the film (as an aside, no one else in my theater laughed when Hemsworth mounted Stormbreaker like a witch riding a broom and flew off...that shit was hilarious).
The last complaint that I'll mention, which is becoming quite common in my reviews of Marvel media (all media really), is related to the action. It's just not particularly memorable. Nothing that made me say "wow". This is especially true for everything involving the "shadow monsters", which provide yet another source of murky CGI cannon fodder for our good guys to easily dispatch. I think it must be getting harder and harder to come up with new ideas for over-the-top comic book action. There's so much out there and we've seen it all before. It's not that the action isn't serviceable, but it just doesn't add anything on its own. Luckily, this isn't a huge problem when the characters, story, humor, etc are all solid, as they are in this case.
what a waste of the Gorr character. Christian Bale killed it but was washed out by the over the top Comedy. The stealing of the children didn't work for me either. That's not something Gorr would do, he would probably kill all the kids instead. That probably would have worked better but i get it, it's a kids movie.
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Excited to see what they do with this character. I just hope they don't give the next movie back to Taika or if they do he turns the comedy way down. Stop trying to be James Gunn Taika and be yourself
Great music, the right dose of humor, Jane's interesting return and amazing goats! What more do we need? :)
This is a big, huge,massive pile of crap. This looks a parody of a proper movie. The crappy humor, the absurd scenes, a 5 yoers old-written script it just makes me want to shoot myself. Won't comment the movie itself because it's not worth the time.
Lack of fluid story telling and too many bad jokes ruined the flow of this movie. I felt no connection between Thor and Jane. That should have had a more serious tone and been delved into more. There should have been more scenes with Gorr.
Way too much, not funny at all, childish. So sad what became of Thor.
I pity the generation that finds this enjoyable, and that is coming from a person who lives for movies like these. Pathetic. Can not even be called a comedy. 1/10.
What a load of shyte!!
2hrs of absolute rubbish..!
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The extremely popular mcu is on its way to the shit pits. So many plot holes and why are they going around killing everyone? I hoped that the villain would put an end to the Gods so that Thor would stop killing absolutely everyone. The characters are 2D. The story's unoriginal. The script isn't funny. The superheroes are selfish. The antagonist is sensible because of a sensible curse. Cinematography and props are great as per usual but I don't know how they'll be able to keep such a high budget if they're gonna be making crap like this everytime.
The film overdoes the comedy but there is enough darkness to balance out the needless frivolity. Care needs to be taken though as this series is slipping into self parody.
Thor is back and I wish I could say better than ever, but unfortunately Love and Thunder leaves a bit to be desired.
Much was made of the return of Natalie Portman to the Thor franchise, and it was great to see her back on screen, and even better to see her don the Thor armor and wield Thor’s legendary hammer Mjolnir. But the truth of this film is that it feels like an awkward follow-up to what was an excellent previous installment in Thor: Ragnarok.
The film picks up with Thor as he tries to figure out what to do with his life after Avengers: Endgame where he left with the remaining Guardians of the Galaxy and while they figured prominently in the trailers promoting the film, I’ll disappoint any Guardians fans by letting you know they disappear about 15 minutes into the film. Don’t worry, they will be back with their holiday special on Disney+ and another theatrical film in the works, but Chris Pratt has been busy with Amazon lately, so the Guardians scenes in this film are pretty limited.
The other high point of the film is Christian Bale’s Gorr the God Butcher. The film actually opens with his backstory and I wish we’d gotten more about his character. We quickly understand his motivations from the opening scenes of the film, but there was so much more they could have done with the character. His lines are sparse and Bale delivers them with his typical dedication to the material, but I couldn’t help hearing Bruce Wayne/Batman in some of his scenes.
The last elephant in the room has to be the Thor/Jane Foster relationship. In some ways, it’s perfectly awkward that they are working together after spending years apart. The film drops in a short flashback sequence that shows how they grew apart as each was more dedicated to their work, saving the world with science and saving the universe with a hammer. I love both Portman and Hemsworth as actors and think they are both better than some of the material they were given here, but it feels like the awkward relationship factor was turned up to 11 and quite overdone.
Thor: Love and Thunder is still a fun film. There are plenty of new characters introduced and we may look back in five years’ time with a different lens after seeing what else has transpired in the MCU, but for now this film didn’t quite reach its full potential.
Felt like 2 different movies.
First half was full of cheesy jokes every few minutes and got annoying.
Second half was more serious and much better especially the black and white part
If only the movie had been more serious throughout and why not show the god killer killing some of the other gods????
It's not the GOAT but It still made me laugh
By far the worst outing of thor, comedy was very weak, story was even weaker, Disney really needs to stop with the female takeover of the classic rolls and give rolls that are fitting for there female leads, I'm all for empowerment but they have gone to far off late and it's boring
slapstick, childish, hokey comedy,
overly bright colors
gay undertones
overdesigned costumes
This is one of the worst MCU movies. So disappointed...ffs a great character ruined.
Thor Love and Thunder was a better movie then the first two. Was it better then Ragnarok? I don't think so, but it was overall fun. I liked the jokes and I had some good fun.
I do wish Christian Bale had more screentime.
I expected more from Taika Waititi but at least they did justice to Jane and didn't deviate too much from the comics story arc.
Not the best out there, it was funny but story wasn't as great.
Every character is turned into a comedic relief. I get that Thor's always been like that but was it necessary to have every supporting character be a humorist. The very few moments where the story is more serious and emotional I didn't feel anything because it was drowned in a million jokes. That scene where Sif is on her death bed and Thor makes a joke about it and Sif even replies with another joke pretty much sums up the movie. They even make a montage of what Thor has been through and lost all his loved ones and how he's depressed and gained weight. Two seconds later he's doing yoga and everything's better and he's back at cracking jokes. Ok why'd you bring it up in the first place if you don't elaborate on it. Also too many kids in the movie. I get that they're preparing the Marvel universe for the next gen but it just felt over saturated and exagerated.
That being said the comedy, the action and the entertainment is up to the roof. The jokes are funny. The action is great I loved the black and white scenes the most. CG looks bad in some parts but that's been the case for all Marvel movies/shows lately.
Whimsical, Modest, Unremarkable
Thor Love and Thunder is a preposterous, silly yet pleasurable addition to the franchise which is shouldered by a charming Chris Hemsworth. His mere presence as Thor is mesmerizing as always. With some visually delightful set pieces, some diverting humor and a menacing performance from Christian Bale as Gorr, the latest Thor film strives through as a somewhat satisfying marvel film if not a great one. Taika Waititi's attempt to add some rib tickling gags and emotions doesn't always land correctly even in the short 120 min runtime . In relation to what the Phase 4 has to offer, Thor didn't seem to take itself too seriously or offers anything substantial for the future.
If we talk about Marvel , there will always be debates amongst fans about the huge inflow of Marvel studios content in recent times. Some want more and some are already exhausted. Once upon a time, Marvel used to make only movies which had a lasting impact may be because of the intervals , storyline etc. Thor Love and Thunder felt out of place in terms of the multiversal phase Marvel is headed to. The movie is the least intense movie out of all i have seen. The Christian Bale performance is just exceptional as Gorr and his makeup is terrifying. I just cant influence you to skip this and watch at your homes, but surely can warn you to keep your expectations low.
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I love the MCU but this one was too silly for me. Almost like a parody
"Love and Thunder" is the fourth solo outing for the God of Thunder, directed by Taika Waititi for his second time. Although 2017's "Thor: Ragnarok" was well-received and praised for its reimagining of the character played by Chris Hemsworth, "Love and Thunder" is not as strong and can be considered a stand-offish entry in the Marvel Cinematic Universe's usually well-connected narrative. The film feels more contained and is content with relying on the humor that has become associated with Waititi, however, these jokes do not always land, and can detract from scenes meant to be emotional or impactful. Additionally, there is a disjointed feeling to the film, as if different tonally contrasting scenes were forced to be included together. However, the action is generally solid, Christian Bale excels in his role as the villain, and the visuals are impressive. Natalie Portman's return as Jane Foster is a positive aspect of the film, but her character ultimately serves as a device for Thor to confront his own issues rather than a meaningful addition to the story. Overall, "Love and Thunder" is an entertaining addition to the franchise, despite its inconsistencies.
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"Love and Thunder" es la cuarta salida en solitario del Dios del Trueno, dirigida por Taika Waititi por segunda vez. Aunque "Thor: Ragnarok" de 2017 fue bien recibido y elogiado por su reinvención del personaje interpretado por Chris Hemsworth, "Love and Thunder" no es tan fuerte y puede considerarse una entrada distante en el universo cinematográfico de Marvel. La película se siente más contenida y se contenta con confiar en el humor que se ha asociado con Waititi, sin embargo, estas bromas no siempre aterrizan y pueden restar valor a las escenas destinadas a ser emocionales o impactantes. Además, hay una sensación de desarticulación en la película, como si diferentes escenas tonalmente contrastantes se vieran obligadas a incluirse juntas. Sin embargo, la acción es generalmente sólida, Christian Bale se destaca en su papel de villano y las imágenes son impresionantes. El regreso de Natalie Portman como Jane Foster es un aspecto positivo de la película, pero su personaje finalmente sirve como un dispositivo para que Thor enfrente sus propios problemas en lugar de una adición significativa a la historia. En general, "Love and Thunder" es una adición entretenida a la franquicia, a pesar de sus inconsistencias.
THAT considered to be a bad superhero movie?
Oh, god... what was it this time? They turned "Thor into girl"? LGBT themes? Someone wasn't properly white? Monotheistic gods weren't real?
If by a slime chance it wasn't something stupid like reasons above.
Well, there is simply no way you gonna sell this story without heavy camp balancing out that type of drama. You know, the scary down to earth one like mortallity and sickness.
One of the worst Marvel movies ever made. Snooze…..
So they really, REALLY leaned into making Thor an idiot now, eh? I guess they sort of had to in order to truly embrace Taika's style, and they make it work, but because everything was so silly some of the more grounded scenes didn't have the weight they should. All that being said, I had a heck of a fun time watching this. The action was fun, the jokes generally work, and everyone seems to be enjoying themselves. Just don't expect a plot that really matters or makes a ton of sense. Kick back and indulge in some cartoonish fun.
Enjoyable. Not as good as Ragnarok. I think they wasted Gorr’s potential. I could imagine another few “Thor’s Adventure” type of movies before Hemsworth gets tired of doing them. In a way, having a relatively stand alone movie that isn’t so heavily intertwined with the rest of the universe was nice.
I guess they spent too much of the F/X budget in the screaming goats? I'm 100% ok with that choice :joy:.
Cool movie, with some amount of Marvel style action, and lots of lighthearted comedy. And a killer soundtrack.
Is it a masterpiece? No. Is it worse than the other Thor movies? No!
Wow, so campy! This was horrible. Thor was turned into a joke for most of the film. Natalie Portman and Christian Bale were fantastic. I was sorely disappointed in Russell Crowe as Zeus.
Even with low expectations, this movie was a disappointment.
I don't know why it's hated so much? Fun movie in almost every way. The acting was amazing, especially from Gorr.
This movie was a try not to laugh challenge with a 100% success rate.
Utter rubbish from stay to finish, really thought this was the beginning of the end for Marvel
Just too childish and silly.
The movie ended in a place where a thing could grant magical wishes, but... Jane Porter still had to die?
I’m not the target audience for this movie … I’ve seen a total of 2 marvel movies containing Thor so really I’ve got no clue what a good marvel movie is and what a bad one is. I am struggling to understand who the target audience was though …. 14 year old girls maybe. Holy crap that was all sorts of cliche and bad acting. Why oh why would these stars attach themselves to such horrible story-telling and movie making. I suspect though have no proof that G’n’R have a reunion tour or album coming up and pulled in a marketing / publicity favour. This is definitely not inspiring me to see more marvel movies.
Definitely the worst thor movie. Disjointed. Didn't explain enough of various backgrounds of Jane becoming Thor, or the creepy bad guy doing his thing. Disney had to put in their couple of scenes with pointless 'bad for kids' stuff. Not worth the watch. Wasn't even really funny as it only had a laugh or two maybe.
This was too, TOO catered to kids while still getting a butt shot of Thor. The storylines about the Eternal, the God killer, Zeus could've been better but was the best part of the movie. The Mighty Thor part was good also but could've been better. But the whole craziness trying to cater to kids was absurd. It might be Disney helping finance but even kids who read Marvel comic books don't want the "kiddie" garbage.
Disney may be the new owner/partner, but no one (and I mean no one) wants to see a Disney kids movie crossed with Marvel. I hope they learned their lesson. This isn't a "kids" franchise. Marvel made comic book heroes a staple for almost all adults, including those they picked up 20 years ago as elementary kids, by staying true to the adult ideas behind comics. No need to kid-ize just because it's Disney.
I'd say to most Marvel comic book geeks "don't waste your time" but you'll need the Zeus parts going forward, so...
Two separate movies were required here, and I don't think Waititi was the right person to helm either of them.
Gorr and the critique of God/Hero worship is a fitting subject matter to throw into the mix of the MCU, even if it is a little on the nose with the foundations of everything the MCU stands on. It could have opened up the doors to discussion of holding those more powerful to account for their actions, the question of why some are deemed more worthy than others, and what we should do when those people lose sight of their morals and get out of line. So much could have been done with a villain as effective and contrary to the current MCU stance as Gorr, and Waititi reduced him to a stand-in on the butt end of dentistry and sun tan jokes. A total waste of insane potential.
Further to that, the Jane Foster cancer story is far too heavy and delicate a subject matter to be thrown into Waititi's unrelenting comedy blender. It needed time to flesh out, add weight and then pay off for someone as pivotal to Thor as Jane. Instead we got this tacked on story that is never given the time it deserves, and feels almost out of place in the overcrowded script of one-note jokes.
But hey, screaming goats huh? They were funny, right?
end of an era. amazing story telling just flushed away with this turd of a movie and Zues's accent. Shame could have been much more.
A cliche cookie cutter woke formula of black washing, anti-male unless gay informercial. If it wasn’t for the CGI this would have been another dumpster fire Marxist Disney disaster.
Had some funny moments, and good acting from good actors. However, the whole cheesy comedy Taika Watiti is making in the Thor films is like watching the crap superhero movies of the 90’s. I still 100% believe The Dark Night series set the bar and if it can’t live up it’s just meh. The Marvel franchise started out this way with Iron Man, keeping proper humour. Now we’re just one step away from the Power Rangers
After watching this, I'll think twice before watching any Marvel/Disney movie or show. The endgame was really the end of Marvel era. Now we only get shiny and colourful visuals with terrible storyline.
The best thing about this movie was the soundtrack! :metal_tone2::notes:
worst movie ever in my life :(
This was a fun movie. Go watch, it doesn't matter what people scrape to say. I find it amazing how are people so eager to diss the movie just because it had too many jokes, or didn't resonate with their expectations.
It didn't with mine, and the movies is still good, the jokes are overdone indeed, and if you really dislike that, then it's not a movie for you. It is clear that it was their intention to make so many silly scenes like that.
It's not perfect indeed, the whole romance timeline is kinda strange. There's room to put "it" in the whole saga story but it felt kinda retconned. I really hoped to see more from Nathalie in this movie, or in the next ones. The fighting scenes lacked a bit. The music choices, even though being great songs, didn't match well with a lot of scenes but to be honest, I don't care much. It was fun, enjoyable, and the main vilan, was not good but it was miles better the the other Thor movies(not counting Loki which was always like a third narrative wheel).
One thing I didn't like though, (major spoilers, if you care about the ending stay away) not because I dislike "bad endings", cause I usually do like them, but it's the second movie in a row that they kinda loose, but mostly all ends well. It's not fun to have them winning always, but AGAIN, twice now after doctor strange, and so close, I don't know... it felt kinda cheap. It is like they were aiming for a bitter ending but didn quite have the courage, budget nor the greenlight for a second "endgame".
And come to think again, it was exactly like doctor stranges ending... "Oh, I realize what you really needed all along... It's up to you now...". Really annoying. We saw rows of good endings.. I thin now we have to bear the loosing good ending.
But then again.. the whole thing with Jane picking up the mijonir even though she knew what it meant... I'm not gonna lie... even though it was reeeally cheap, it made me a bit sad. specially cause I was really sure that Thor would endup making the wish... I was as sure as I could be that that would be the end.
And that's where I came up with this "theory"... Bear with me... I think he secretly wished GROor killed all the gods so he could go to valhala with Jane. I know it sounds far fetched... But after all they went through with Thanos... To just toss their chances to some dude they didn't even know, and worst, was on that killing spree, I don't know... It doesn't make any sense to me. As soon as the sword was broken, he would have gone for groors head... He knew that after the whole Thanos incident... Maybe he was tired to live, idk, which throws me back to my crazy theory hahaha.
If you come to think... It was almost the second time he should have finished his enemy, but didn't, and now the consequences could have as worse as before if groor's wish was different than his whole speech about god's.
But anyway. It's good movie.. go watch it.
You know your movie has MAJOR MAJOR problems when the only relatable in said movie is the main villain. ThorLoveAndThunder What a terrible terrible film. 3/10
The only good parts of this movie are the screaming goats and Christian Bale.
This movie was beyond disappointed. I truly regretted watching it.
I saw comments around the internet about marvel becoming a big joke. I did not really understand what person's meant until after watching this movie.
Comedy seemed forced, strained and non-organic. 15 minutes in and I found this though I had to push myself to keep watching. I kept hoping the movie would get better sadly it went from bad, to worst to the worst thing ever.
The movie was rushed. The characters were fake. Zeus died without any real fight? It's a good thing he wasn't really dead. But the point is the movie just was a great let down
"THOR LOVE AND THUNDER"
9/10
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS MOVIE
IT'S FULL OF LIFE AND COLOURS
AND HUMOUR AND IS SO MUCH FUN BUT STILL MANAGERS TO GET ME IN THE FEELS AS IT
STICKS THE LANDING.
THIS IS CHRIS'S SECOND BEST
SOLO ADVENTURE WITH 2017
THOR: RAGNAROK
BEING HIS BEST 10/10.
THE ONLY REASON THIS AWESOME MOVIE JUST MISSED OUT ON A PERFECT 10 WAS IN THIS MOVIE FOR AS COOL AND FUNNY AND VISUALLY STUNNING AS IT IS NOBODY WAS OR FELT IN ANY REAL DANGER, EVEN WHEN THEY WERE IN REAL DANGER, NOW THAT WAS NOWHERE NEAR A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME IN FACT IT ALLOWED ME TO BE ABLE TO RELAX FOR 1H 59M AND LAUGH AND CRY AND HAVE A GOOD OLD TIME OF IT.
BUT WITH "RAGNAROK" YOU WAS GENUINELY SCARED FOR EVERYONE WITH THOR'S SISTER "HELA" WHO WAS A TOTAL BADASS AND BEING "ODINS" FIRST BORN AND THE GODDESS OF DEATH YOU WOULD EXPECT SO TOO. SHE SHATTERED
Mjölnir like it was glass and showed us just what was possible. She killed everyone she came in contact with and took Thor's right eye, would have taken his life as well, and that wasn't for
lack of trying either. We had to destroy Asguard to stop her
for crying out loud,
In context destroy a hole
planet to stop 1.
Wow..just..wow...
My point is "Hela" was an
Avengers level threat and a damn
good one at that, we never got that
in Thor Love And Thunder
With Gorr The God Butcher
and his Necro Sword.
Don't get me wrong
Christian played
him perfectly and was frickin
awesome
in the role but the stakes
never really felt
Oh Fcuk it's do are die time,
we'll probably Die.
WITH THAT BEING SAID ALL THAT WAS BY DESIGN NOT THROUGH A WEAK STORY AND WHAT WE GET INSTEAD IS ONE OF THE COOLEST AND FUNNY AND SLICKEST MOVIE EVER TO ENTER THE MCU.
EVERYONE IS ON FORM LIKE OFF THE CHARTS PERFORMANCES ALL ROUND
AND DOCTOR JANE FOSTER aka
THE MIGHTY THOR IS SUPER FRICKIN AWESOME AMAZING AND I WISH WE WOULD HAVE
HAD THOR AND THE MIGHTY THOR MUCH
SOONER AS A DUO IN THE MCU, SO COOL
AND SO AWESOME AND HOW JANE
USES MJÖLNIR IN HER OWN UNIQUE WAY IS SPECTACULAR AND OUTSTANDING AND
IS SUPER COOL.
THIS MOVIE IS HILARIOUS AND CHRIS
IS HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME
AND AFTER
11 YEARS ALREADY BEING APART OF THE MCU YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT THE GUY DESERVES TO HAVE A LAUGH AND A GOOD TIME IN HIS MOVIES NOW AND NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO BEGRUDGE HIM OF THAT. HE'S BEEN LOYAL TO MARVEL TO THE FANS FOR 11 LONG YEARS AND HE'S STILL HERE FOR MORE SO I ABSOLUTELY WANT HIM TO ENJOY HIMSELF NOW IN HIS MOVIES. HES EARNED IT AND DESERVES IT AND I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT HAVE
A PROBLEM WITH IT AT ALL.
BECAUSE WHEN HE NEEDS TO GO AND BE
THOR-ODINSON THE GOD OF THUNDER,
OH...MY..GOD HE CAN BRING IT..WOW.
"YOU FLICKED TO HARD
DAMN IT HA,HA HA
I DIED"
X FINAL THOUGHT
THIS MOVIE IS SUPER FRICKING
AWESOME AMAZING, I'VE
VIEWED IT MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY
AND NOW I OWN IT ON
4K BLU RAY THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE MANY MORE VIEWS IN THE FUTURE.
HELLA YEAH.
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION
ON THIS MOVIE,
IT'S A THUBS UP FOR SOME
AND A THUBS DOWN FOR OTHERS
BUT FOR ME IT WILL SIMPLY BE
:zap:"LOVE AND THUNDER":zap:
THOR WILL
RETURN?
I loved that film, lots of great effects within the action, fun sense of humour and super performance bale, makes a great mcu villain XD
obsessed with the love story surrounding a cishet stereotypically attractive man finding himself and accepting and embracing change.
favorite moments: korg explaining kronan reproduction, the kronan god, valkyrie in the phantom of the opera sweatshirt
i actually loved the ending it was super sentimental and showcased thor's growth and it was just such a perfect result for thor's character.
my only big complaint is the beginning idk the presence of the guardians was just ick for me, but it didn't really subtract from the movie for me.
I loved it all the way through. But I do find the story kinda weird. Especially the choice to kill two characters and then bring them back . Loved seeing Hemsworths daughter in the role of Love!
I wanna remember the last few minutes felt like 9/10!
Just got out of the movie.
Totally agreed with everyone saying the movie could have done much better with more butchering time for Gorr. In the comics, I loved when Gorr talked about how he tortured a god of torture and thought that was so fitting and definitely gonna be in the movie to show how much of a threat he is. A missed opportunity here for sure.
Overall the jokes were funny but I felt like they were all over the place and unneccessary at times. Ragnarok is one of my favorite movies and it's a bummer but I have to say L&T didn't quite recapture the magic of that movie. Kind of similar to how I'd say about Guardians 1 and 2. The tone is similar but both sequels double down on constant jokes and less on other departments.
The 2 credits scenes were a bit predictable though. I actually prefer the second Valhala one to the first. Hercules looked kind of bland and meh to me.
Criticisms aside, it did look amazing and the relationship between Jane and Thor was beautiful and got expanded upon far more than the first two movies. And the goats were awesome! 6.7-7/10 for me. I'll probably rank it the same as I would for Guardians 2.
There are plenty of ok ideas that Taika never fails to undercut with some awful joke, if you like Ragnarok there is plenty more where that came from. The aesthetic is still a worse Guardians to just borderline superhero parody. The vibe is kind of like we don’t give a shit about this because it’s stupid so why should you? I think it is slightly better than Ragnarok but maybe that is just due to my expectations. Christian Bale was pretty good!
I don't understand the hate the hate this movie gets. It's feels like the first time Marvel is trying new ideas, instead of going with a giant beam of light shooting to the sky. They are taking the superheroes out of the restrictions of action/adventure and letting them live inside other genres. Love and Thunder is an amazing romantic comedy. Taika's sense of humor is all over the movie, and it let's the cast shine. In the same way that Multiuniverse of Madness is one of the most amazing Mother's Day movie ever, and how WandaVision played with the structure of sitcoms. If you wanted to watch the same movie all over again, instead of asking Disney to make copy and paste movies just rewatch your favorite one. Sure, this movie is not perfect, but at least is approaching superheroes with a different perspective.
The second best Thor movie (Ragnarok still rocks), but its quite enjoyable. Christian Bale is amazing, just like Nathalie Portman. Korg is great too, and oh god I absolutely love the Guardians, even in a small role like this! And, in case anyone is wondering, yes, Thor will return. I loved it.
Pro: I had a tonne of laugh screaming goats, more Lady Thor, more Valkyrie, Omnipotent City was really cool,kids were cute.
Con: feels for me that Christian Bale wasted for the movie, he could have been a bigger character, the whole movie basically felt like a kid matinee movie. Also, we could see some montage of Gorr killing Gods. Fun and cute yet, but missing the dept. The music was okay, but not great enough compare to Ragnarok. I think the movie was a bit too over the top, too childish, and too random like a theater rehearsal. Also, Thor suddenly gives blessings to the kids tho have his power? Lol. In Ragnarok, he went through a process to learn how to harness all his powers.
Loved it. There was some ‘wokeness’ in it, but in a decent, not laying it inches thick on it way. Glad to see they are learning. Good humour. Christian Bale delivered!
Very fun movie and very rewatchable
What the hell was that? :type_1_2:♂
Feel good fun for the whole family, or just my single self. Really enjoyed it. The goats need a spin off!!!
I saw it on the Ireland’s cinema
The tone of the movie is all out of whack and is really what let's it down. It's funny yes, but lacks the punch that Ragnarok gave. When this movie needed to be serious, it didn't have the set-up nor the attention it needed in those scenes to pull it off.
The art direction for the most part is great, just again, those serious scenes could of been done better. The score i feel too deserves more time to let shine. Because while the credits rolled i loved the score there. But they opted for popular rock songs for the moments that mattered.
Christian Bale is amazing as Gor. I don't think I've liked a Marvel villain's difference in acting since this. Sadly I don't think they built his motivation up quite enough to have this be as rewarding as he deserved.
The third act stumbles yes, but the final confrontation is actually done very very well.
I felt like a lot was missing here and I really hope that the supposed 4hr cut did not have the more tonal stability that this version needed and was, in fact, just improvisational comedy.
This just killed Thor. Each one drifts farther from the original and why need such stupid comedy. Marvel seems to ruin all with this.
Wanna play a game? Drink every time a goat screams. This felt like and action film trying to be a comedy or a comedy trying to be an action film. It's hard to tell at times. You move from overplayed joke to tragic cancer story back to the same joke then some ass kicking... It is a bit too nutty at times. But... it is fun. Being less than 2 hours long, it probably could have been even shorter. The last 30 minutes is what saves it.
I've been re-watching the entire MCU in chronological order and aside from Guardians and Spider-Man, the MCU was done after Endgame. Everything after is just filler. Perhaps these films made during COVID suffered because of the pandemic. Thor: Love and Thunder doesn't fill any gaps from the previous films, but rather adds to a story that was already told.
With the next phases coming up, we shall see if the MCU dies a hero, or lives long enough to become yet another over-saturated collection of films.
Gorr : the gods dont care about us.
also Gorr : lets kidnap a bunch of kids so this one god can come save them even tough i strongly believe the gods dont care about us.
lol what?
5.5/10 - Oh dear, the MCU seems quite lost... :o This felt like a parody of the MCU but weirdly it's from Marvel! Normally, I don't like parodies as they tend to be too ridiculous, cheap, etc. and unfortunately this isn't an exception. It was entertaining at times and it wasn't a waste of time but it also just wasn't good. I'm missing a meaningful story and consistency!
I din't like the "villain", IMO those gods don't really fit the MCU (and this wasn't that funny/new anymore given that I already watched "The Magicians"), and I miss Gamora.
At least Jane was(/is?) back (would be nice to see her and Heimdall again in Valhalla), the Guardians of the Galaxy had some screen time, Korg is still funny, King Valkyrie is still decent, and Jane ("The Mighty Thor" :D) is still worthy.
This movie was not even a hit and miss. It never hit.
The comedy is so excessive it doesn’t make any sense and it comes off as cringy as hell. Thor used to be self absorbed and detached but he “grew up” in the other movies. In this one, is not even comical how detached he is, because he doesn’t show care for all the children missing.
The screaming goats are annoying, the scene with the guardians is almost unnecessary, and when he finds Sif and just jokes with her while she bleeds. Is so out of character with the Thor in Ragnarok.
I just hated it and won’t keep venting.
Yet again THE FREAKING SCREAMING GOATS, WTF WAS THAT?
This is yet another movie you will forget a few months after watching it. Is it bad? No. Is it a masterpiece? No. Does it entertain you for 2 hours? Yes. And that's about it.
Christian Bale is amazing on this one. And I really liked the post-credits surprise.
I mean, it had good moments and some fairly good acting in spots but overall it just felt like almost nothing mattered and every obstable could be overcome with a magic workaround. There was barely any permanence to any decision except finally putting an end the Jan Foster romance which FINALLY got a pay off here but was wasted because it had been left on the shelf for a decade and I guess that is not the fault of this film. More than anything this movie shows that the Marvel Universe that felt so meticulously planned out in Phase 1 no longer has that long range vision and thats too bad.
Too much unnecessary juvenile comedy. The whole scene with Zeus and the other gods was cringeworthy and I almost turned it off then.
This movie is all over the place. Bunch of short snl skits featuring Thor edited together. Absolute and utter waste of a potential.
Was just ok watched it and a month later can’t remember much about it may say more about me than the film
The comedy on the thor mvies, are very physical and I LOVE IT. the end is a no taste one, but the actuall movie have a good rythm
This movie was a disaster :sweat_smile:
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I've been a fan of Taika Waititi since Boy and What We Do in The Shadows (The 2014 movie) and I'm so glad they gave him carte blance with first Ragnarok and now Love and Thunder. For me it's a perfect match. This may not be one of the best Marvel movies, but it's so much fun. The comedy fits the characters and there's still a lot of (gorgeous) action to enjoy. The fight in the hall of the gods (gold blood) and the one against Gorr in black and white (big 300 vibes) were stunning. The drama was okay and I did enjoy Natalie Portman's redemption. I never disliked her character, but she was sent of like a boss. Christian Bale is on another level when it comes to acting. I loved every minute of him on screen. As a Ted Lasso fan I couldn't believe my eyes when the first post credit scene played. So stoked to see this actor in the MCU.