Just another movie Dc fans can be disappointed of.Boring Storyline could be tolerated.But why are the action scenes so cheesy:expressionless:
Oh my God, could this movie be any worse. The laws of physics can be bent in super hero movies sure, but completely ignored it seems in this case. And the plot was so easy to predict, but the resolution at the end seemed so lazy. Where did the team for the first movie go, I get that they hire cheaper staff where they can for sequels to save money, but it seems like they got a bunch of amateurs to work on this one.
Pros:- It swings for the fences, it doesn’t play it safe. It’s a massive tonal shift from the first film, and it’ll alienate some viewers because of that. The first one was an epic with some funny moments sprinkled in, this one is a saturday morning cartoon. And personally, I welcome that kind of bold, creative decision making. The plot feels like it comes out of a silly 80’s film, and it works because of the vibe of the film. - It has a very unique way of testing its characters. It isn’t just a simple: here we have bad guy x, he has powerset y, we have to beat him. The conflict in this film is much more internal and character based than your normal superhero flick. You get some great character arcs because of that.- The action sequences are fantastic. The opening sequence alone makes this worth a watch. Furthermore, there are some awe inspiring beats that Patty Jenkins nails.- The villains are good characters, much better than the last film to say the least. Pedro Pascal is great. Kristin Wigg is good too, and gets to play a lot of different facets. I don’t agree with the assessment that she should’ve been cut (her motivation differs enough from Pedro Pascal’s character to justify her as a villain in this story). - The filmmaking it just top notch all around. The visuals (Matthew Jensen deserves a lot more work) and score are terrific. I didn’t quite get Zimmer’s choice to play the BvS Batman theme during the climax , however.- There is a sense of fun to it. Again, the 80’s references are extremely exaggerated, but it works because of the cartoony tone of the film.- Chris Pine makes a welcome return.
Cons:- Though I see improvements with every film she’s in, I still don’t think Gal Gadot’s a strong enough actress to carry a franchise. Her line delivery is very wooden for the most part. Zack Snyder fucked up DC films in many ways, but his legacy contribution has been casting actors who have a good screen presence (read: they’re hot), but lack in the acting department (Ben Affleck excluded). If you’re bringing Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa and Henry Cavill to compete with the likes of Chadwick Boseman, Tom Holland, Benedict Cumberbatch, RDJ and Scarlett Johansson, I question your decision making. Also, you’re putting needless pressure on good filmmakers like Patty Jenkins and James Wan to cast a very strong supporting cast in order to do the heavy lifting for their own films. If this film had a supporting cast with actors of the caliber of Gal Gadot, you’d end up with a B-film. Thankfully, it doesn’t. - The way they force the invisible jet and golden eagle armour into the plot feels lazy, and creates some continuity questions for the first film.- It doesn’t have major pacing problems, but it’s a little too long.- Some CGI issues.- Minor point: I don’t like how unsubtle the message of the film is spelled out during the opening scene. It makes the film way more predictable than it should be.
The most boring, formulaic storytelling ever! This movie doesn’t indicate Hollywood is dead, instead it shows we are way beyond the grave and are just staring at the lifeless corpse of Hollywood cinema being pulled by strings. I don’t know who Wonder Woman 1984 was made for. Is the target audience kids? Because this felt like a children’s movie.
When Anna Banerjee said American superhero movies are blatant propaganda. Wow, SO true! I expect nothing less from a movie that’s an American perspective on the Cold War. Damn, communists! Damn, Russians! 90,000 years later Americans are still psychotically obsessed with the Russians. They are the only villains in US movies nowadays as well, so by that you can’t say in which year the whole movie takes place in, the only thing that pertains to 1984 are the clothes.
There was just so much wrong with this movie:
Gal Gadot is a very beautiful woman but my goodness, she cannot act even a little. It's hard not to think she was chosen only because she's a pretty model type, because it certainly was not due to her acting skills. And does she even have enough lines to justify being the leading character?
Pedro Pascal’s character is the same villain you’ve seen before in every film ever made: business man is overwhelm by his own greed. Oh, and his dad yelled at him for wetting the bed, so.
I hated Kristen Wiig’s character. She is the nerd with glasses that nobody helps but we got a "makeover" scene where she becomes "pretty" because she … takes off her glasses! And then everybody totally falls for her. Gal Gadot was like, "Where is your kindness and humanity, girl?" But Kristen Wiig was like, "Lol stfu bitch, I’m doing hot girl shit now." It’s basically an endorsement of the Joker thesis that it's always the socially insecure outcast who will eventually pose the greatest threat to humanity. But now people don’t have a problem with it because it’s women, so :tada: diversity. :tada: You people will gobble up any "diversity" scraps the Hollywood toss your way.
Other tropes are so cliché are well. The "hero losing her power" - women can only be strong and powerful or have love, never both, or the "using kindness to save the world" – this really is a movie about how we can solve international war and terrorism through … forgiveness. :laughing:
Everything in this movie is black or white, so naturally, we got the "every man is an asshole but we aren’t going to have a real resolution about that" theme. Guys in car nearly kill jogger lady, bad guys want to throw kids to death in a mall – who acts like that?
The dialogue is a hokey displeasure to listen to - "Scientists don’t wear heels" "Some do", "I can save the day but ~you can save the world".
All in all, the plot is so riddled with cliches and idiotic ideas, the characters are either boring or stupidly written, the writing is complete garbage. The movie tries so hard to be relevant and relatable. I don’t have a high tolerance for overly cheesy movies, and I don’t think superhero movies are for me!
overlongboringcheesycringeCheetah looked like an extra from Cats The MusicalDiana's golden armour was goofy as hellmost of the action came across as stupid and funny
Bad written superhero movie, the 200 million budget is a joke. What a trash movie.
200 million for this? Shit. I hope they kept the receipt
[5.8/10] So many movies don’t get the basics right: characters who want something, themes to grapple with, setups and payoffs. Too often, those essential building blocks to storytelling are just set aside for reasons beyond me. That should make it refreshing when a movie like Wonder Woman 1984 comes along, with a story specifically founded on what its characters want, centered around a clear theme, that establishes details before they become relevant later in the film.
The catch is that while WW84 checks all those boxes, it doesn’t do any of these things terribly well, let alone advance to the next level and really make magic out of the combination of people and events that make up the movie. Particularly when it comes to superhero franchises (or sub-franchises), the first movie has to introduce the main character and their world, while the sequel can use that as a springboard to really play. This movie aims to do more than its 2017 predecessor, built around those core storytelling components, but then proceeds to make a mess of its wider ambit.
That starts with the hamfistedness of pretty much everything in the movie. There is absolutely no subtlety or nuance in WW84. The characters practically announce what they want (the conceit of the film all but demands it). An authority figure essentially declares the film’s moral in the opening segment. And if that all weren’t enough, Wonder Woman herself basically looks directly at the audience and tells us the point and overall message of the picture. If you missed what Wonder Woman 1984 was trying to do or say, you were either asleep or, more understandably, lost in the hash it makes of these ideas despite its directness.
The theme boils down to some combination of “Don’t take shortcuts,” “Be careful what you wish for,” and “Think about the wider costs of your individual wants.” Director-writer Patty Jenkins and co-writers Geoff Johns and David Callaham oversimplify those notions in the script, but there’s worse stars to steer by. The problem comes from two extremes: one is the bluntness of how plainly the film states its thesis on these topics and the other is how it loses itself in purple prose trying to dress them as something profound rather than trite. The mix leaves all three central ideas feeling under-realized over the course of the film.
Part of that is the premise. The central MacGuffin in the film is a magic rock that grants people wishes, but as is eventually revealed, also extracts a price for it. As silly as that sounds on paper, it’s a perfectly acceptable comic book-y idea to deploy here. There’s even potential to explore the costs of getting what we want by taking this shortcut, both to ourselves and to our communities.
But the rules are confusing and seemingly arbitrary, and divined by hero and villain alike with little logic. People have to be in contact with the stone to make their wish, but apparently can undo the effects by simply declaring “I renounce my wish!” a la Michael Scott. The legend of the stone says that it takes what you value the most in exchange for granting the wish, but when bad guy Maxwell Lord “becomes” the stone, he can apparently just decide what to take from people when they make their wishes. And the contact rule also goes out the window when Lord takes advantage of vague “particle” technology that makes seeing him on the TV screen as good as holding his hand for some reason.
Any single one of these things would be a stretch but perfectly tolerable within the outsized confines of a superhero movie. But stacking them on top of one another, in addition to plenty of other smaller contrivances and conveniences and headscratchers, leaves the film feeling like it doesn’t play by its own rules, and instead just makes up whatever it needs to in order to hurry things along to the next scene.
Some of that’s understandable, because the plot quickly becomes the least interesting part of the movie, WW84 finds an excuse to bring Chris Pine back as Steve Trevor and, as with the 2017 film, every scene of Wonder Woman and Trevor together is better than every scene without the two of them. Pine and Gadot continue to have great chemistry, and the combination of reversing the “fish out of water” dynamic from the last one, and the inherent joy and tragedy of reunion and loss, makes them the strongest element of the film.
Alas, the same can’t be said for the villains. Kristen Wiig’s Cheetah is a “baby’s first” version of Michelle Pfeifer’s Catwoman from Batman Returns. The homage seems to be a deliberate one, replete with power lines, but that just makes Barbara Minerva’s cartoony affect and transformation all the more lacking by comparison. There’s the germ of something good with Minerva feeling invisible and unsure, seeking popularity and poise, but it’s lost in a bunch of over-the-top moments that dampen any humanity at the center of the idea.
The same goes for Pedro Pascal’s Maxwell Lord, who seems part a commentary on Donald Trump and part a rejection of the “Greed Is Good” ethos that WW84 hopes to combat when invoking this era of American History. Pascal goes for broke in the performance, but the character is so thin, with a last minute depositing of backstory and presto-changeo change of heart that leaves him like so many other characters here -- more one-dimensional than he should be.
Some of the film’s more substantive failings would be easier to ignore if it were just more fun to watch and nicer to look at. Despite a solid opening sequence where a young Diana runs through a Themyscira obstacle course, most of the action here is unavailing at best. The CGI, frankly, looks pretty terrible, with tons of obvious green-screening and movements that lack weight or recognizable fluidity.
Some of that can be chalked up to superhumans doing superhuman things, but much of it just comes down to a flat weak aesthetic mixed with unconvincing special effects. The direction is largely indifferent outside of that opening triathlon riff, and the look of Wonder Woman’s lassoing and ass-kicking and flight feel neither real enough to pass muster or impressionsitic enough to feel artistic.
That’s right, Wonder Woman learns to fly here, another nod to her powers in the comics. Along with the invisible jet and her magic super armor, the movie comes up with a plausible enough bit of setup to where these developments don’t feel completely out of the blue, and yet most of them still feel underdeveloped -- pieces that wouldn’t make sense if they weren’t references to something else in the character’s publication history, with only the barest of scaffolding to keep them from being totally random. There’s at least a minor emotional resonance to Diana taking flight after accepting the renewed loss of her true love/pilot boyfriend, but it’s still undercooked.
That’s true for so much in Wonder Woman 1984. The basic foundation is there. The characters have desires and lose something in the pursuit of them. The film wears its themes on its sleeves. And however rushed the setup may be, most of the developments in the film have some minor preparation for them in the early going.
But once you move beyond those simple building blocks, Jenkins and company make a hash of pretty much everything else. The film soon becomes an overlong, over-the-top, ugly muddle of a movie. It proves that you can fulfill the basic requirements and still fail as a movie by not doing them very well, let alone matching the feats of your protagonist, and soaring above them.
I honestly wish i could have unseen this movie, and I wouldn't renounce it either. The plot was extremely poor, the CGI was just bad at some points and for the movie to have failed at delivering on pretty much every occasion it tried to be either cool or funny is just mind baffling. Also chosing to go for a very specific year (1984) and not doing anything with it is just one of the many letdowns of the movie, it literally could have been any year after the first movie. Another all-time low for the DCU :sweat:.
Edit: So I rewatched the movie, as I honestly couldn't imagine anyone rating this movie as high as some have on here. I thought it was maybe because i was in a bad mood or something when i watched it the first time. But no, it honestly is as bad if not worse than the first time i watched it.
This was boring, sappy and childish at times. This is so disappointing.
Talk about underwhelming. This is some really bad writing. Like everyone else, I was excited for this, but left disappointed. Chris Pine and Pedro Pascal were the best part of it. I really root for Gal Gadot, but her lack of acting skills really are noticeable with the bad writing. As for the movie, it just got more and more absurd as the movie went on. There were so many unnecessary scenes as well. These are some of the cons just off the top of my head?
Cons:* The beginning - it kind of made the ending predictable on what was ultimately going to happen. * The mall scene - it felt like a scene from a tv show. Also, how did the bad guys not die from that drop?* The highway chase with the kids. How did the kids not hear a full convoy coming that were firing guns at each other?!? Also, how were they not seriously injured from that tumble?* They didn't give Kristen Wiig's character enough time after the initial introduction. Her final transformation comes out of nowhere.* Fireworks scene - How the hell did he not know that fireworks existed??* Flying a Jet - How the hell does he know how to fly a technologically advanced jet?? I don't think the knowledge transfers over quite like that.* Was Max Lord's kid just sitting in the office the entire duration of the plot? Was he being fed? Did he sleep on the floor and wear the clothes? Where was the mother?* How come the transformation had to happen in another person's body, but nuclear missiles can appear out of nowhere?*How come Diana never considered the moral ramifications of her wish? Like not even for a second. Weird.
Boring most of the time. It was very predictable in terms of plot.Alot of the things did not make sense, like why the Chetta becomes herself in the final form (I though she only had one wish?). Also the invisible plane out of nowhere and wonder woman knowing how to fly in a matter of seconds also made no sense.
The villain was entertaining in his 80s style sort of way and Chris Pine is always good.
Wow, this was amazing! Best DCEU movie by far!
What a waste of time time...
Just a shitty movie. When did wonder woman get all these extra powers? To bad good CGI wasn’t one of her super powers.
I quite liked the movie.
Kind of reminds me of Bond movies: A lot of stuff that doesn't really make sense if you think about it.
But its cheesy and fun - not to be taken too serious. And at that it excells.The description of the movie is however a bit odd - where does she come into conflict with the soviet union? The whole movie was about Cheetah.Did they forget to put a new description out after they scrapped an overloaded script?
All in all I think its a great example how you can write a female led action movie without going overboard with issues.Its a breathe of fresh air in an oversensiticed world.
P.S.: A few years back this would probably have got a 7/10 from me, but after Disasters like Charlies Angels (only one amongst many) I feel I have to give extra credit for female led (and directed) movies not making people feel bad for the gender and color of skin they are born with (I phrased it this way intentionally!)
It was good. earnest still which is great. Gail Simone said she cried three times and I can see it. It has some very successful emotional scenes that don't feel manipulative. The soundtrack was missing TIna Guo's electrio cello which were so distinctive in the last movie. I don't like Kristen Wiig and yet I enjoy everything she's in. It's a weird dichotomy and while I think they went a little hard on the "oh she's unsexy because she's wearing baggy clothes" I think Wiig does an admirable job of being the schlubby Dr. Minerva and being the empowered Cheetah.
I've heard there are negative feeling about the movie but I can't imagine where. The final fight between Wonder Woman and Cheetah looks good CGI wise (RIP Black Panther) though it lacks in choreography. It's directed well enough I never lose track of where WW and Cheetah are in the space but I have no idea why if WW is trying to get into a facility she's spending so much time going in essentially big circles dangled on her lasso. There's a hilarious scene in the white house fight between them where Pine's Steve Trevor is fighting some guards in the background and you can see them essentially dancing as the camera focuses on the main combatants.
I liked the final fight with Max Lord they clearly didn't have the studio force a CGI fight on the movie like with the original movie with Aries. But this was a fight of earnestness and sincerity which is what Wonder Woman is all about. The fact that a TV transmission doesn't count as touching to the point where even the President says "it's just a phrase" made me laugh. I'm willing to buy that he can take your wishes over the TV. I'm not wiling to buy that he's limited to physical contact and this special TV signal counts. I feel like the movie was leaning in the right direction when Max took the TV slot from the faith leader. I figured this would be the start of his I can take your wishes over the TV and it would have snowballed easily.
I think the homage to the invisible Jet was fun and when she learned to fly that was as I already hinted earlier super emotional. The stinger nod to Lynda Carter was excellent.
The worst movie I've watched in 2020. The writers don't know what make WW be the heroine she is, and they don't know how to write a cohesive story. The director simply cut so many things that plague the movie, like the "teleportation" from everywhere in the movie not showing the transition of time. The worst offender of all is basically they made Wonder Woman a sexual abuser because of what she done to the guy that had his soul switched for Trevor. This is not Wonder Woman, go read the comics.
Holy moly. First one was pretty good but this one is probably the worst superhero movie of all time. 2001 Harry Potter has better CGI than this.
absolute garbage. why is it marvel can make a decent movie yet DC remains weak and inconsistent.
After this year, this movie is what I needed. It has flaws, but the message of love and truth is enough. Pedro Pascal as Max Lord is brutal.
So the first Wonder Woman movie was a fluke and DC is back to making mediocre movies. Good to know.
I've had a change of heart.If the creative minds at Warner Brothers will be making the decisions about future DC projects without the creative direction of Zack Snyder, I'd rather they didn't make Man of Steel 2. WW84, as another reviewer below noted, is a cartoon, from start to finish. The problem is it's a bad cartoon. It's like they took a bunch of plots, tossed them into Christopher Nolan's Inception machine, and whatever came out was filmed and put on the screen.
Say what you will about Zach Snyder but, good or bad, at least the man had a vision.I don't know what to say about this mess other than if you don't have HBO Max, save yourself the time and aggravation.
If you like cartoons... well, there are better cartoons.4/10
Absolute garbage. Dialogue was horrible, the story really made no sense and only got more ridiculous as the film went on. Thank goodness I didn't pay to see this atrocity in the theater.
Wow DC just Wow. The worst movie of 2020
First 1.5 and a half of movie is build up with barely anything wonder woman esque (super hero wise) in, then after a few scenes she's losing her powers. Due the absolute cheese fest of a story about every wish comes with a price and redemption for all the bad guys. And what's worse, the end boss fight is with a CGI cheetah girl. And let's also not forget the side story, innocent man had his soul pushed out for Steve Trevor to body steal while Diana has sex with said mans body (sort of a body snatching rape) only to when he goes meet the guy and flirt with a little smile. I remember around 2 hours in thinking should I just turn this off. NOT A FAN!
Very bad. very flat characters. and men are criminals or furniture.For now I have been watching 44 minutes and I am seriously thinking about stopping watching it. I don't think I'm going to miss a lot.pd: solo se puede escribir en ingles?
What a waste of 200m to spend on a very low budget story that doesn’t even bring the real ww back on screen.
Chris Pine which I really like but he shouldn’t even accepted this part which they just wasted on this part. They had allot of great chemistry in the first one but I felt they couldn’t get that back in this one. Also, Pedro should keep a helmet on where his acting does him better justice. I found him terrible and got on my nerves.
Ww fly’s is strange and took 5 min to learn. Even gal playing as ww I liked but such terrible writing even made her look novice.
I think this will be tough to get a 3rd movie. The viewing audience has ripped this apart.
I don't get the the hate this movie gets. It is actually a very very good movie. Maybe give it a try, you're time watching it will be worth it.
This basically summed up 2020. This was the worst superhero movie I have ever see. Maybe one of the worst movies period.
[HBO Max] Wonder Woman is a supporting character in her own sequel. So much so that they need to recover a character from the first movie to be her adventure partner. Goofy villains are the protagonists, but the action scenes are poorly shot. The only thing from the 80's are the visual effects. At least, Hans Zimmer believes the epic of the character. This is what happens when a mediocre director becomes a star.
Disappointing and boring. Jeez DC is really stepping up their game.
The part where they said something was lame. Fits this movie. I couldn't get into it at all. Just waited for the end
Such a let down. Story just wasn’t there, first Wonder Woman was much better. Crazy plot, making wishes on magic stones that destroy the world, didn’t get it. Not much action and boring story, I would skip it unless you have two and half hours to kill.
My soul hurts, my brain stings. This movie literary could not be any worse. If you read this before you start watching - just don't.
How the f this movie was so bad?!! First WW was amazing and this.... this was all like a fanfic really. The only thing that this movie brought to the story is that Diana can finally fly.
The fights were bad, the story was worse. No sense. Chronologically incorrect. Dianas wardrobe mostly wasn't from the 80s but she somehow didnt stood up for everyone. It seems she works at the same Museum as she was in Batman v Superman so more than 30 years ...
I knew from the moment they revealed that this movie will be between the first WW and Batman v Superman that it wont have any sense. Batman said that Diana was detached from ppl bc from the WWI she wasnt going out as a superhero, he could find a picture of her from WWI but he didnt find anything from that moment. And I believe in Batmans powers for looking up ppl. And how bad explanation it is that the first thing Wonder Woman does when she sees a bad situation is looking for cameras and destroying them. Like come on!
And WHY the CGI was so freaking bad?!!!! From the beginning till like 2/3 of the movie CGI was more and more just looking raw!The great legend with the greatest armor and the wings came for a second to be destroyed in the same scene. OMG WHAT A CRINGE.
The only thing that could save this movie was Diana waking up at the end and saying what a weird dream it was.
I am a fan of strong women, I am a fan of Wonder Women. I hope I will forget this movie exists.
I actually really liked it.
It's refreshing to see a old school standalone superhero movie with out the silly team ups or interference of another character.
If you thought this was good you're probably one of those people that happily picks up dog shit. Barely 20 minutes of action. I DON"T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WONDER WOMANS LIFE!!! BEAT SOMEBODIES ASS!!!
At times it felt like I was watching a cartoon where things happen so quickly without much explanation. Like when she was able to cloak the jet just like that... how convenient! The special effects were right out of the 80s era... From Wonder Woman to Super Girl... She can fly now... Cheesy and cartoonish! I can go on and on but really the movie fell flat on it's face. Loved Pedro Pascal's character though...
A story that is too predictable (and very worn in the superhero genre) in every way, Romeo and Juliet and their impossible love, the villains who want to be bad just because their life is full of trauma and emotional problems that they can easily deal with a good psychologist. The only good thing about this film is at the end: Lynda Carter's cameo. No folks, Gal Gadot and his pretty face can't handle the whole movie, it also requires a good director, scriptwriter and even special effects.
I wish I never saw this film and I will not renounce........wait what were we talking about?
I was very much interested how they going to bring back Chris Pine, and for this, I got a great answer. Sadly apart from this, everything else felt really poor.The story was weak, the ending too cheap. The action scenes could have been better, the CGI was really bad at some points (yes, I'm talking about that scene when WW saved the two kids in Egypt or wherever they were), and they lacked tension. There were no twists at any point in the movie, and I really missed them - not that this is a bad thing, you need those feel-good movies once in a while, but we are talking about a big budget movie here.Have some courage to surprise your audience!! It can be rewarding!At least the actors and actresses were good. You can't really say anything for Gal Gadot, she plays Diana greatly, but you have to admit, her character doesn't need a lot of acting. Kristen Wiig was a welcome, and Pedro Pascal did a great job within the limits his character gave him.So all in all, this was not that great. I love DC, I prefer them to the Marvel, but there's something missing from their movies. I really hope the next chapter will be better.
Huge disappointment. I renounce my wish to see this movie.
Not a Dc fan, but the four main characters just nailed it. Liked this one a lot better than the first one in every way. It started slow but in the end the whole movie felt complete. Enjoyed it a lot.
I loved the first one but where do I even start with this ?
Not only does the story take place in 1984 but the whole movie feels like it's been made in the same year. Like those early superhero movies that you watch today and wonder what they were smoking back then. The script is bad. It does hold just enough water for maybe an hour long TV episode on any CW show but not a 150 min movie. It is full of boring fillers. The charcaters are so cheesy and clichéd that you, again, feel thrown back to the 80s movies.CGI is below mediocre by todays standards. Where did that 200 m$ budget go? Acting is subpar by everyone and I know that they can act better so I have to assume it is indeed the weak script doing that. The action sequences are nothing to get exciting about. They just roll along.Everything culmulates into a weak finale. The big fight that wasn't one and a Hollywood fairy tale ending that is delivered with the grace of a sledge hammer.
I had hoped that this movie would save the movie year 2020 put it just couldn't deliver. Maybe they should not have held it back so long as I think the high expectations are an issue here, too.
It could have been I was just expecting too much but taking a look at the ratings everywhere I probably wasn't the only one.
Are you a DC fan? Sorry but this is not for you. It is such an ordinary movie. But I must add Pedro Pascal is saving the day. It is nice watching him at. Also nice seeing some 80s vibes. That's it.
Wow, this is a great example of the true power of Hollywood marketing. Such a great trailer but a totally disappointing movie. Ridiculously childish opening, boring as hell all the way. Just expensive cinematographies.
Wonder Woman adaptations are such a mess every single time. Boring all the way. The plot is as ridiculous as her making the plane invisible in 2 minutes.Also, still wonder why is Gal Gadot Wonder Woman, the woman have the face no doubt, but she's thin and not muscular at all.
Didnt like the plot. The whole making a wish for what you want the most, and then realising what it cost you is a boring teen girl movie trope.Barely any exciting fight scenes. Seems like a filler movie, in the hopes of a better plot involving Cheetah vs WW?
One of the worst superheores movie in the history
I'd love to say "yet another movie plagued by a liberal anti-masculine theme" but this movie is so bad, any message it would try to convey would fall flat on its face. Not to mention the monologue at the end whose message is - most peoples' life sucks, so shut up and take it. Exactly what the liberals and Hollywood wants you to do - pay up and shut up
You already know it's a steaming pile of shit, but we all know you're going to watch it anyway. Stop reading reviews and just get it over with.
It's been seventy years since her introduction to the world of men, and though she's grown more able and active in that time, Wonder Woman still carries a torch for the short-term romance that violently ended in a WWI fireball. It seems unhealthy that she hasn't accepted the loss in all that time, still dining alone and sad-eying all the happy couples at adjacent tables, but it's convenient for the story (and for viewers) that her heart hasn't moved on, so here we are. Of course, that lost love does eventually, improbably, return from the grave, thanks to the influence of a mystical wishing stone, but (as always) there's a steep price.
While it lasts, Diana and Steve's reunion is an enjoyable reversal of fortunes. Now it's the cocksure soldier who plays the naïve fish out of water, goggling and gaping at the fashions and conveniences of modern luxury in 1980s America, while the worldly Amazonian princess smirks and explains. The weird throwback/leap forward aspect is shallow, but it works. I felt that the first film suffered for its close tonal relationship to other films in the DC Universe, all grim and bleak, and the vibrant, colorful air of these early scenes serves as a sorely-needed dramatic departure. It's fun to watch, easy but functional, and the dominance of a "me" generation serves the broader theme of human greed as a divisive force.
As the plot drags out, though, those simpler pleasures lose their zing and the various threads wrapped around the wishing stone grow unwieldy. It all culminates in a completely nonsensical climax that momentarily throws the entire world into upheaval before the headliner shows up in a new outfit, swings a few punches, lobs some lofty philosophical mumbo-jumbo and literally rides off into the sunset. I didn't buy the evil plot, nor the heroic resolution, and was left unfulfilled.
The effects work hasn't improved from Diana's first outing, either. Most times, the direction is smart enough to mask such shortcomings behind abrupt camera shifts and motion blur, but any time we get a clear shot of the heroine running full-speed (and this happens more than once), it's a hilariously bad look. We're talking made-for-TV special effects here. Absolutely astonishing that a major studio could release something so shoddy and second-grade, especially after so many unexpected release delays.
Ultimately, WW84 is a story of one step forward and two steps back. It conquers the issues of individual identity that plagued the first film, gives us another chance to enjoy the chemistry between costars Gal Gadot and Chris Pine, but also struggles to tell a cohesive story, rambles on for ages (there's at least thirty minutes of fat on this steak) and whiffs on the ending. Plus, the effects. Oh, those effects. A good concept, established with loads of creative energy, that loses its way and peters out after the first hour.
I wish ... from the bottom of my heart that DC movies be as good as Marvel movies.
I mean I don't know what I was expecting but this was way way below my expectations
it simply felt meh
and was boring, cheesy and underwhelming
it's like they just wanted to make a sequel with no plans
the whole film feels like a wing it project
You want to be entertained?
Go read the user reviews of this trainwreck on IMDb!
You won't regret it.
C' mon man, the greatest FEMALE SUPER HERO and the best film you can make is only worthy for viewing on "TLC" !
YOU HAVE THE BEST "WONDER WOMAN " YOU HAD A GREAT FOE "CHEETAH " WHO YOU DRAGGED ASS IN TO FULL INTRO, and "STEVE TREVOR " DIED ! ! ! IN THE FIRST MOVIE.......
This was shameful, horribly done, just like every other DC movie.
Now I know why I read MARVEL'S comics, THEY DO IT BEST.
Somewhere "LINDA CARTER " is laughing her ass off.
Wonder Woman 1984 Review
Spoiler Warning: ......
Wonder Woman 1984
Wonder Woman 1984 failed as an epic super hero blockbuster, failed as a fun piece nostalgia and totally failed as a feminist, girl power story too!
Let’s start with the chosen time period. I personally find the 80s to be the decade I would gladly forget the most. It was corny and had the worst fashion. I personally hate watching movies set in the 80s. Obviously there are exceptions, but in general if the hair, fashion and ridiculousness is way too prominent in the movie, it’s a turn off.I LOVED the beginning of the movie that took place at home with Diana’s tribe of warrior women, but the second they switched locations and time to that 80s mall, I immediately hated it. UGH! I also HATED the gold outfit! I hated that gold outfit ALOT! Okay, that is my petty complaint. I wish they would have maybe set this movie is the 90s or anything other than the 80s.
My more substantial issues with this movie are maybe problems with the story, writing and directing. For example, I was confused with the villain or villains or maybe lack of a clear villain. Was the villain Barbara or the Maxwell Lord, Black Gold guy? Or was there no real villain other than human desires themselves? The focus is muddled here. Maybe they should have focused on Barbara and made HER the supervillain who made her wish and then hid the stone from Diana. Or maybe Barbara could have wished to be just like Diana but then gotten someone else to wish that Barbara could become the stone or that Barbara could grant the wishes of the world, or something like that.
The point is that Barbara’s character should have been a sufficient villain without involving another character, especially a male character. To make matters worse, not only do they add a second villain who happens to be male, but then she is not strong enough to defeat him herself and she has to rely on human kind to rescind their wishes and for the villain himself to rescind his own wish and willingly, give up his power. For a female super hero to be written this way is super problematic and does not scream girl power to me. Sure, they gave Diana some new powers we haven’t seen yet in the DC movies (which we’ll cover later) but they still make her not sufficiently powerful enough to vanquish the villain on her own strength. (I mean, she is part God and she defeated the God Aries in the last movie, so why is she rendered so helpless to defeat Maxwell Lord?! It’s SO stupid!)
We had to pause the movie at one point and we realized we were only halfway through the movie and we were super irritated that we still had half the movie to go. Maybe if we had been enjoying it more we would not have been so upset to still have to sit through more of it. At two hours and thirty five minutes it was too long. If it had been a better movie, we wouldn’t have cared how long it was, but as it was, if they had completely cut out the Maxwell Lord character the movie would have been more centered AND shorter.
As I mentioned, I loved the beginning of the movie with Diana’s Amazon tribe! I also loved seeing Chris Pine as Steve Trevor back and seeing he and Diana together again romantically as well as fighting side by side at times. I really loved that they gave Diana new powers. The invisibility and the flying should have been a great way to make her more unstoppable. (I wish they had gone in that direction.) On an emotional, level the heart felt goodbye scene between Diana and Steve was so beautiful and heart breaking to watch. It was so well done. It gave them the closure and the goodbye that Diana and Steve did not get the first time around. Seeing Linda Carter during the credits was super fun too! Loved that!
Sadly these few bright spots in the movie did nothing do save it from being an overall disappointment. I wish I could have been happier with this film but the writing and directing choices left the viewer with few choices in opinion. It’s really sad because it could have been so epic and so exciting and emotional, but it wasn’t.
my first reason to watch WW84 is Gal Gadot, second was the VFX and Surround. I got it, watched in IMAX. I am a happy man.yeah I agree that the ending could have been better but apart from that, all good. rarely some sequels are better than than the prequels, so go easy on my Gal, ok?
The WW84 trailers were much, much better. Worst movie for 2020, wonder no more.
3 Thoughts After Watching ‘Wonder Woman 1984’:
I certainly wasn’t bored, but there was clearly not a solid, cohesive plot here. The whole “make a wish on a rock from a god” storyline was super convoluted and far from clear. EVERYTHING about it felt severely thrown together. Bringing Steve’s “spirit” (?) back from the dead felt like quite a stretch as well.
Despite the rather inventive way of bringing Pine back into the fold, it was nice seeing them together again. And I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t moved by their second parting.
One tiny thing I REALLY missed here was (what I thought was) her epic theme score from the other films in the DCU. That whole guitar riff thing. It was so epic and badass — and so very absent in this film.
Bonus Thought: As much as I love love love me some Kristen Wiig, and as much as I was SO excited to see this massive departure from her usual comedy work, she felt a tad out of place here. But I did enjoy her villain more than Pascal’s — which I think might be among the absolute worst in a superhero film.
Not a good sequel. It has its moments, but the plot is almost laughable. Very disappointing.
The fact that it was a cliche fest really didn't help but overall I thought it was ok. I expected a lot more for a movie with a $200M budget.
Wonder Woman 1984 is a problematic but fun movie. At the beginning of the year this film was one of my most anticipated films of the year, but for some reason each time it was delayed my anticipation started to gradually lower. Almost all of my expectations weren’t met and I found this film to be a pretty big disappointment compared to the (great) first film. Regardless of the films many major flaws it’s undeniably a fun and entertaining film with a handful of good aspects that keep me from giving it an even lower score. The plot is okay it’s a convoluted but enjoyable story. The story is the type of mindless blockbuster story that you can’t help but be engaged with. The story is full of major flaws the biggest ones being that since the story uses a familiar plot structure it never feels original or fresh and the story has an abundance of huge plot holes that are unignorable.
Also the story conveys a completely different tone than the first film making the two feel awkwardly disconnected, this move could have been brilliant if it was properly executed. The pacing is decent for the most part the film is well paced but there is still a few times in the second act where the story feels slow. There is also filler scenes that make the runtime feel overlong.
The acting is pretty good Gal Gadot gives a pretty good performance as Wonder Woman. She really will always be the one and only true Wonder Woman, she is one of the main things carrying this film from being a complete disaster. Chris Pine gives a decent performance but I really hate what the writers did with his character arc and especially how they (once again) ended it. Kristen Wiig gives a good supporting performance for most of the film she goes full out Wiig and that’s not a bad thing at all. I was worried about how well her character would fit in with the DCEU but she reassuringly fit in well.
Pedro Pascal surprisingly gives a very good supporting performance he stole every scene he was in with his charisma and charming sense of self awareness with the character of Maxwell Lord. The direction is okay from Patty Jenkins, she went from making crisp and smart directional choices in the first film to making generic directorial choices that most unpassionate action directors make.
I still haven’t lost complete hope in Jenkins because her upcoming films Cleopatra and Rouge Squadron look promising. The script isn’t that good it’s a cramped and messy script that rarely feels memorable or even natural. The cinematography is good this film has a handful of good shots especially the shots of Diana and Steve in the invisible jet. The visual effects and editing are decent as well. The action is decent there is a only a few pure action sequences but when there is an action sequence it’s well choreographed and enjoyable. The ending is a dissatisfying ending that leaves you wondering what went wrong. Overall while it has a handful of good aspects Wonder Woman 1984 is chiefly a messy and disappointing superhero film that could have been much better.
(5 out of 10)
The first scene, too long. The next one at the mall, too long -all that lashes up and down, here and there... what dizziness!-, the purpose of the film is as blurry as the story. Everything is ready-made to bring back the character Trevor to life again, but I see no justified script to build a good story, well, it can be a good story, but is convoluted, doesn't fit -IMHO- with a super heroine film.I liked a bit of the film, but wasn't amusing, generally speaking. I would like that a Wonder Woman film were fun, with adventure and action, not philosophically convoluted and even causing distress at times. Maybe next time... :-D
Bad movie. Easily the worst DCEU movie, and it is not even close. It's all over the place plot wise, action isn't good, characters suck, effects suck. I have almost nothing good to say about this movie other than that I almost enjoyed Pedro Pascal.
It's such a shame because I think the first Wonder Woman is easily the best DCEU movie.
Even more boring than the first one
Unfortunately, another very unsatisfactory DC movie. No character depths, bad acting, story is predictable and visual effects are below average.
It almost feels like a rom-com at the beginning with a strange Aladin twist
It's just boring. There is a whole bunch of other flaws (some very big - WTF where those CGI and action scenes?) but none of those matter if I'm barely paying attention after an hour because of how boring the story is.
In the end it’s been a Christmas miracle! :christmas_tree: :star2: :santa:
Good action.Nice characters.Wholesome story.
not as good as the first one, but still enjoyable, especially for a DC movie. More actions scenes would have made it better.
A excellent film. Maybe the best film by DCEU so far!!
Definitely not good as good as number one. And you can't make this crap up 1984 while we're living at George Orwell 1984 these people mock you and I'm fed up with them still like the movie do you want to know if demons and angels Fallen Angels come from Heaven they jump on Lightning just like Wonder Woman a Nephilim hybrid
The first 10 iminutes is the best part of the entire movie. Mini WW trying out with the big girls. The rest not so good. Same old WW stuff, nothing new.Some of the special effects after the first 10 minutes, not so special.
What the hell was that? Did they really use "face swap" for the movie character? Because if they wouldn't we wouldn't know what is going on? But on the other hand the other guy looked like Shrek except he wasn't green. So maybe I should be thankful. Again, too much of feminism it's always so annoying even for me as a woman. It wasn't funny at all. Only one funny scene and they put it in trailer. Yes that one with trash can. Oh and yeah special effects really looked liked from year 1984. At least this was authentic. Good things about this movie oh yes only one. 5 seconds of Wonderwoman main theme music. Not kidding. 5 seconds. The music was really terrible. Even my beloved Pedro Pascal couldn't save this movie when his character was such a piece of nothing.
Another movie which puts genre as a priority and ruins a franchise. Fully feminist to the point of undermining men in general... Lost in a cheesy story... Shame, it had good actors... And actresses
PS: all those amazonians.... No men... Makes you wonder.....
Sadly this is still among the best of the DC Universe films and it was just not good. Everything that felt right with the first one seemed to be missing here. They made Diana look like a brat in the opening Olympiad sequence. I get that she had to be taught the moral about lying to use later in the film but her behavior looked like it belonged in an Adam Sandler movie.
The plot device they used to get Steve into this movie was borderline shameful. The TV series handled it better. That is saying something. Everyone has beat up on the production and CGI enough so I don't feel the need to add anything on that. It felt so much longer than its 2.5 hour run time. Bad editing.
Just another hollywood st*pid feminist propaganda. Boring plot, awful characters. Just a feminist who in real life justifies israel occupation and attacks over Palestine. Please Holllywood STOP with this shitty trendy stup*d feminism and make real cinema again. Im watching every time less movies because of these ideological agendas in every movie
Looks like the best jokes made it to the trailers and though i didnt get bored or knew it was too long but in the end i still dont know what is this movie all about, for instance in the synopsis it mentions that Wonder women confronts Russia in cold war, but that just never happens and we do see russians but there screen time is less than 84 seconds. The best thing is the New Republic rehashed song.
Where do I start? I believe it’s kinda of an unspoken rule that a movie must earn its runtime especially when it’s longer than 2 hrs and I don’t think Wonder Woman 1984 did that at all. This movie did not feel like it needed to be this long and even with that being said it consistently saves time with lazy storytelling. How they bring Steve back, Cheetahs powers, Maxwell Lords powers all conveniently explained with one thing. Which brings me to my next point Maxwell Lord. Just because you hire a good actor doesn’t mean they’re gonna nail the role cause at the end of the day u have to work with what they write and poor Pedro Pascal was written terrible and I don’t blame his performance but I do blame his character more than anything for this movie being bad but Maxwell Lord isn’t the only thing to blame for this movies failure. In case I didn’t make it apparent Maxwell Lord is awful in this movie, and I was actually pleasantly surprised with Cheetah not that cheetah was great but I just figured she’d be awful but Kristen Wig did pretty good. It wouldn’t be a Patty Jenkins film without a fish out of water element and a horrendous third act so let’s bring Steve back and attempt humor from something we’ve only seen a hundred times and even in the predecessor and just make the movie nearly intolerable for the third act. To be quite honest this movie probably gets a bit to much hate because they’re are plenty of superheroes films with horrible villains, lazy writing, and predictable and cheesy storytelling that don’t get trashed on like this movie but that doesn’t change the fact that it seemed this movie went out of its way to be bad. I simply think if you remove Maxwell Lord from this film you have a much better movie. Obviously some rewriting will need to be done because he is a major part of this movie simply Wonder Woman vs Cheetah would’ve been much better even without Steve Trevor.
Well how dissapointing was this , the story line stunk say no more
Ignoring the run time, the pointless scenes, and the plot points that require coincidence instead of problem-solving, the biggest issue is editing and pacing.
Particularly at the end there seems to be no consistent portrayal of characters or what drives them. Gal Gadot is great, the script is not and the storyboarding isn't constructed in any rational way -- particularly in the last 30 minutes. There's enough here to frustrate you in what could have been a good movie, but it wasn't there, it was a bad movie. I think the fact that there is so much to like contrasts so hard with the bad that it drives you to like it less.
I was hoping COVID hurt production in a way that explains the lack of consistent flow, but that's not the case.
What should have been a great sequel with a strong female lead instead became a rambling mess without clear direction in everything but the predictable end.
The flying scenes were too much to take. The first movie of Harry potter has better CGI.The story is full of plot-holes and cringe. The first movie was a thousand times better.
I feel like the term guilty pleasure isn't cutting it anymore. Not only do I know that this movie is pretty much hated, I even know why. And I agree it has too much plotholes, cringe and bad acting. But I enjoyed it nonetheless, because it managed to work somehow(?!)
Where Birds of pray managed to redeem the film pretty much completely by the end at least for me Wonder Woman 1984 is sadly just ended up been ok film.
It's pure camp. I loved the way they used 80s theme, where people expected throwback to just the colours and clothes they went straight into politics and oil crisis and it was handled with such finesse I'm joking that it felt refreshing to see nostalgia being smashed in the face by "reality" that was turned up to 11. I like the way they returned a character back, I wish they would show it more thought out the movie. Pine is the glue apparently, before he appeared movie was cringy as hell because cheesy just works in this franchise, ok? After the Return cast started to mix together quite well. Their chosen acting styles started to finally fit the movie. The repeat of "fish out of water" also fit well cup and fireworks lines almost woke up my brain again, but thankfully it was lulled back to sleep right until cringy last scene Two "villains" worked great aka fight-fight villain and talk-fight villain. Them not being villains worked too. Hell, even the Speech did! All stuff surrounding the Speech was ridiculously done but the message itself and the scene didn't bothered me. And finally action scenes were fun and creative to watch! I cared about the characters well being in them, random guards included The way action scenes were done on technical level - not. But cgi in the first one sucked too so I'm used to it
Plot is fine. The only problem is that characters just knew stuff and appeared where they need to be the most by the power of said Plot... which is horrible almost irredeemable sin. But on the other hand Pine safed the movie: jokes started to land or at least didn't derail the flow. By the way, the first 30 minutes were the most cringiest rom-com thropes combined with horribly written lines delivery included Lead actor should be able to carry the movie even against Electro's cosplayer... thank god Wig picked up performance after the Wish cause that was painful to watch sadly Gadot needed cast help in alot of scenes. But the Speech worked I swear!
TL;DR idk what exactly made it work for me at the end. I liked characters, cast managed to show up eventually too. Decent amount of creative action scenes. Passing felt just right, it didn't drug. I appreciated the hell out of period appropriate economical and political issues at the front and center of it all. Proceed with cautions - my brain managed to turn itself off half and hour into the movie. And apparently this is the only way (c) to watch and enjoy it.
Wonder Woman betrayed me. It was love at first sight when we first met and I gave her my heart those years ago, but now she's abandoned me for a big, hot, stinking mess and I'm totally alone trying to remember if what we had was real at all.
Terrible dialog, worse story, ugly spécial effects... Not even Zimmer's soundtrack was bombastic enough to drown out the roaring awful that is this fiasco.
Y'all, we owe Captain Marvel a huge apology for all the bad things we said about her.
Goodish 1st act.Good villain.Bad everything else, especially the special effects and stupidly brushed off aftermath of the conclusion.DC can't get fast running right, can they?
Yes, now I know it for sure. DC can't make comics and this was the last one for a long long time for me. I wasn't sure if to even watch this but I did and I regret time spent. Could've used it better. Directory, screenplay, acting, CGI, action...all of it is not even average. Yes, I rated five stars because I saw worse movies. If I rate only in DC universe, then I'd go for three stars rating.
Ridiculous plot progression, absurd physics that guess against reality. Horrible CGI. They really learnt nothing from the first movie. This is a flop.
Not bad. It was enjoyable to watch with my nephew, introducing him to the DCU too.
I renounce my wish for s second wonder women movie
The movie was really meh tbh, more if you compare it to the first one. I personally liked that they used some "classic" stuff from WW like the tiara, the invisible jet, her ability to fly; but they all felt forced. Many inconsistencies i believe, and the ending was very boring. The overall "theme" of the movie wasn't bad, but i think it was bad executed. I give it a +1 for the Post-Credits scene
I am very disappointed. The first movie was so great!
I don't get the bad reviews? this was a solid watch!
Slow moving, not as good as the first movie.
If you liked the original Wonder Woman (2017) you will most likely enjoy this. Although the new movie is not as good as the first one.I think part of the disappointment (at least mine), is that we were made to wait so long till it was finally released - i feel that maybe just maybe if they had released it to streaming a lot earlier the build-up and anticipation for the movie would not have ended up being a slight disappointment.Anyway - Max Lord is virtually a carbon copy of Trump except Max Lord saw the light in the end and renounced his bad, errant ways very much unlike Trump. They claim this similarity was 'not' intentional.Also, it would have been nice to see more of Cheetah. By the time the Cheetah incarnation of Barbara appears she disappeared all too soon.And while I'm at it - they had plenty of time to fix the Cheetah CGI but they did not - sadly we don't see too much of her but what we do see is not up to today's CGI standards and had to be shrouded by night and a lot of darkness.All-in-all this was a slightly disappointing follow-up, but definitely enjoyable.
How I rate:1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
The Thor: The Dark World of the DCEU.
It was a bit long like the last one but i did love the beginning. To see Diana as a girl and doing that competition but i like how Antiope showed young Diana a lesson in about being a true hero with the truth. She was super fast and loved how she used that lasso plus this whole wishes was something to be learned, i did feel bad that Diana had to lose her wish of Steve being back cause that is the one thing she always wanted but cant have cause her destiny is to help the world from badness.
I give it 7/10. The pacing was just too slow and the plot overall is pretty weak. Also, I am mad they didn't give Max proper powers like in comic books. I prefer the first movie to this.However, opening Themyscira is on fire! Thoroughly enjoyed that part!