"I mean do you know how many girls I've slept with? Like a lot. Classifies me as a player or something and my best friends used to think I was the fucking best. Hannah, she sleeps with one guy. She has a crush on another guy, being me. And she kisses a third, being you. And it's whatever, it's all fine, right? All of a sudden, she's a slut? All of a sudden, you don't know who she is? You're a dumbass."
I didn't expect that speech from Justin. I just want to slowly clap it out. Well said.
All in all I find the sudden relationship between Zach and Hannah really, well, sudden, but not necessarily unrealistic. Maybe I'm a bit biased though because I do like Zach (even though he's not perfect and I really hope he'll go against Bryce and Monty soon), and I think Zach and Hannah were really cute together.
They're definitely a better fit than Clay and Hannah. Maybe it's because Clay's so young or maybe Hannah's his real first love, but he simply admired her too much. He put her on a pedestal and viewed her as this perfect, innocent, flawless human being. Even Hannah's mother said that Clay thought she was perfect. And now he sees that she did have other people in her life, that she liked other boys and that he wasn't her saving knight in shining armor.
And I don't find it unrealistic that she freaked out when Clay was getting close to her. Flashbacks and panic doesn't appear when it's convenient. Maybe she was fine with Zach, but then she felt betrayed by him and it just hit her when she got close to Clay.
That episode makes absolute no sense.
This is officially where the train flies off the f'ing rails. What a mess.
The best episode so far... Mostly because i see myself so much in Zach. This episode changes the way i see Zach. Actually Zach and Hannah make a cute couple but i feel so bad for her because Zach broke her heart... Zach seems a strong guy but its weak, he wants to keep an image for her friends that doesn't correspond to the real Zach. btw the way Zach puts the condom its interesting ahah About Clay, i understand his reaction on hearing the story between Zack and Hannah but i hope he changes is mind about Hannah
Zach giving Alex a boner. This better not be gay-baiting.
Fuck Hannah and her lies. She’s pissing me off. The timelines are so off right now. Why is she such a douche to Clay. Just because he is gone for the Summer? Zach and her make no sense. How could she lie about an entire summer. Is the first season pretty much irrelevant now? Worse episode of the entire series by far.
I knew almost 100% sure that Hannah had been an ureliable narrator, but this much? After these events the only thing she mentioned in the tape waas Zach's note and it's suposed to be credible? I feel like in this season they're messing around and in between a very meticulously closed plot from the book, and I feel it forced every time.
NOTHING ABOUT ZACH AND HANNAHS RELATIONSHIP MAKE ANY SENSE. i mean i like them together, but its so dumb
What a stupid episode. It completely flies in the face of the first season. Zach's tape was already one of the weakest "reasons" that Hannah had. This makes it even weaker. Why the absolute fuck would she not have mentioned any of this?! (The answer is that it's the prequel problem, as I said before. The idea for this plot simply didn't exist before now.) There is simply no way in hell that if she had sex with this guy numerous times, including losing her virginity to him, that she wouldn't talk about this at all, and instead just talk about him not reading her note to him. No way in hell. Not to mention this all serves to make Hannah look even worse than she already does. Also, Clay asking "ghost-Hannah" about it doesn't make any goddamn sense. She's a hallucination of his mind, not an actual ghost. She would not be able to provide any new information that Clay didn't already know.
This actively ruins the overall story. What a terrible decision at all levels.
So Hannah was a sex freak? Didn't see that coming :anguished:
Zach makes a startling confession about his relationship with Hannah the summer before she took her life. Realizing what he'd done and ultimately what it resulted in leaves him heartbroken and ashamed. Justin is found in the house by Clay's dad and Clay's parents give him a hard time about why it's dangerous to have Justin around. Clay learns from Justin about a break-in and realizes it must be from Bryce knowing Clay is next to testify in the trail. Tyler has more fun with guns and Alex gets a random boner that boosts his self-confidence again. Jessica shares her story in a support group and is admired for her courage.
Zach is really a good dude but makes alot of silly stupid mistakes. And him and Hannah's relationship make no sense!!
Dylan Minnette (Clay), Brandon Flynn (Justin), and Alisha Boe (Jessica) are easily the best actors among the "teen" cast members.
This episode was actually a surprise. I knew Hanna and Zach had more going on since season 1, but it was nice to see more of their relationship.
Shout by danielBlockedParent2018-05-20T10:54:20Z
Zach and Hannah are the cutest, they deserved better, while Clay is getting more and more annoying.