I think Clara had an awesome departure from the show. Her death being a fixed point in time that can't be reversed but she can avoid her death how longer she likes by traveling with Me in her Clara Who adventures.
Things I didn't like about the season finale is the underwhelming return of Gallifrey and a lackluster conclusion on The Hybrid. I only rated this episode a 9 because this season finale got the emotional beats right.
love it! but the resolution of the hybird really sucks :(
don't you dare tell me ashildr outlived jack! it is just not possible!!
I really don't like that he forgot Clara, not after everything they've been through...but I do love the fact that she gets to prolong her life and time travel with Ashildr.
Well I wonder what happened with the Doctor's daugther and if we will see her again
Boo hoo, The Doctor brought Clara back. I don't care I love her and never wanted to see her departure by dying.
Frustrating episode in general. Bloody Clara back just ruined it for me. Ruined its for me for the extent of why return to Gallifrey...what was the point? The story told was a stupid waist of bloody having the Doctor return to Gallifrey. Too many tacky & we guessed/already knew this stuff. Imagine Face the Raven was season finale & therefore Heaven Sent was the Christmas episode - they could have started the next season on Gallifrey. Although I'd hate the long wait, it would have been better than what we got. There is a lot more I could say but it would just frustrate me more 'Damn you Steven Moffat!' haha.
Love the episode but learn to kill a character! when a character die we need to know that that character is actually dying, so that we can feel some emotions from that death instead of thinking they probably are not dead because you will find a way to bring them back from the dead or just not kill them! i know that Clara did die in the end but she didn't die when the crow got to her the last episode. when the crow killed her in the last episode i hoped she was dead and not because i think she was a bad companion because i need to know that a death matters. so please, when you kill someone just kill them. I loved this episode
Back to the old sonic screwdriver... thank god.. Those sunglasses were pathetic.
All and all a poor season ending. They could have done much better.
This was so, so, so dumb, but I loved every second of it. Emotionally, it couldn't have been more satisfying. This season was...a ride. As it stands, 3 great episodes against 9 that ranged from utter trash to acceptable for me.
Clara ruined it for me. It was a kinda nice episode but inconclusive. I like that now the Doctor it's not going to remember Clara. it's a shame I will.
Thanks for the spoiler in the description.
...OK now that was a much better send off. Didn't realise she was going to have two goodbyes.
Before watching 10x1 please watch the two, "specials:"
* The Husbands of River Song
* The Return of Doctor Mysterio
And, moving forward, or to fill in what you (we've) missed, please refer to
https://trakt.tv/shows/doctor-who-2005/seasons/alternate/1910
That is the secret sauce -- an integrated list which shows which, "specials," are canonical or necessary to the Who sacred timeline. [Bitch at IMDb for the discrepancy, but now you know.]
... Give it a bit more... wellie.
So heartbreaking this time (third times a charm).
(2:38) Billy Connolly - If It Wisnae Fur Yer Wellies - STV Broadcast 1976
https://youtu.be/PsyXin4eiSY?si
When you put in a society with time lords and medieval people with medieval houses on Gallifrey, it just looks stupid and like you didn't put any thought into the lore or time lord society at all. It's the most basic nonsensical thing you can do, and furthes dilutes the mythos and takes away interesting mystery.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
But oh yeah we must have our basic ordinary hero of the common people narrative.
A lot of hybrid rubbish.
No explanation for how Gallifrey escaped, i guess we just assume they came through the crack in reality that they sent the regeneration energy through. Oh wait you couldn't have just cleared that up with one line like i just did?
I liked the high timelord said if he told them what they wanted to know he could have walked out there. I like that because it also speaks to the hubris of the doctor, he'd rather kill himself billions of times tin order for the possibility to save Clara. It's terrible, to kill billions of versions of you, it's just terrible.
I loved the soldiers not wanting to shoot the doctor because he's a war hero. I'm glad everyone knows that.
I'm glad the doctor is trying to punish Rassilon for his previous mistakes.
I liked the doctor taking control and booting off Rassilon and the council.
The doctor killed the general, a good man. We all know each regeneration is their own person, so he killed a good person right there. Dark.
Emotional over Clara confronting the doctor over how long he was in the confession dial.
I wonder what she told him. Maybe that she loved him.
I would have liked a "Clara, my impossible girl" line.
It's floated the doctor possibly being half human.
It's one of the most ridiculous things in Doctor Who that Me would still be alive, and with a similar personality. It's complete nonsense of the highest degree.
Ugh.
I like some of the interactions with the general and the sisterhood of Karn.
Ashildr should not have been in this episode, and i very much dislike Ashildr being part of the new tardis. This rubbish annoying antagonistic characters gets that? No. And Ashildr caused Clara's death and the doctor's many deaths inside the prison, and her reward is a tardis and a companion.
Stupid.
Ashildr and Clara are not compatible as a team and we've seen nothing to support the opposite.
And Clara and Me can suddenly pilot a tardis.
Ugh.
Giving away tardises to companions and immortals dilutes the nature of tardises out there in the universe doing stuff. It dilutes the mythos.
I don't even think Clara should have been given such a gift. She should have just died in the raven episode and faced the consequences of her dumb actions. And i do still like Clara as a character, i just don't love her like i do Rose and Donna. I will miss her though.
Love the look of the new sonic.
Felt little emotion at the ending.
How does wiping the doctors memories save Clara? Maybe not? And she just keeps running? Then why the doctor needs to have his memories wiped? Why even would Clara need her memories wiped? How does that affect the raven scene? Why couldn't time be re-written? Why couldn't there be a defense against the raven?
The doctor planned to take away Clara's memories, to kind of wipe away her personality and who she is, just to save her, rather than die as who she is. It's extremely, extremely dark. One of the most dark things the doctor has ever done. This doctor is very, very dark, and he didn't even realize it. That's the sad and scary thing. He's like 10 where he has dark moments and moods, but 12 is worse, and his ego might be worse too, with what he was willing to do for Clara.
And in helping her, even with what Clara said about traveling the universe and delaying until she returned to Gallifrey, it's always going to be in her mind about her impending death. Or maybe not. Or maybe she'll die soon on a random adventure. Well maybe not, because we saw her death in the raven episode and she did a scream, so we know she went back into her body, eventually. Maybe she returned when she got injured on an adventure, or something.
Maybe it's not as bad as i'm describing. I'm sure she'll live for a long time and do great things.
If it ends up causing her existential suffering though, then it's partially the doctor's fault for giving her this life. That his compassion gave her this life and the suffering she'll go through.
Feel sad for Clara that she has to part from the doctor, and the doctor has forgotten a lot about her. Don't like it. Don't like he forgot the memories of her and their travels. And he also forgets the mistakes he's made with her, like the huge one at the end, so he could do all this again someday. It's terrible. This doctor is not a good man. I like him, but he's terrible, and he's more of a liability than all previous incarnations.
"Space Glasgow!"
I don't quite understand why the white TARDIS makes the same sound as the Doctor's, even with someone else driving it. Isn't the noise supposedly caused by him "leav[ing] the brakes on"? Like, a TARDIS isn't supposed to make that noise?
nOBODY TOUCH ME I'M :(((
I was underwhelmed originally by this episode particularly because i expected something else from the return to Galifrey. Putting that aside it is an enjoyable episode and an interesting way to end the series. I really liked how storytelling was done this season and i enjoy watching the episodes again. This was definitely better the second time. I hope we see more of the Galifreyans both high and low born. A little disappointed about the resolution of the Hybrid which was interesting but lacked punch for me.
Do you guys realize that now we risk an Ashildir and Clara spin-off?
i love it. they should produce an audio series asap.
Untill now I can't say if I liked it. It had a lot of things but none of them were significant. Clara and Me together makes no sense.
So, we have two human/timelord hybrids now. Interesting.
But isn't he the Hybrid? Half-Human on his mother's side, remarked Eight?
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I really loved this episode. Sad and beautiful.