Lots of random stuff that was kind of weird (super fast travel, Benjen dying after being on screen for like 5 seconds, Arya acting like a psychopath), but overall the episode was great, and Viserion's demise was heartbreaking.
Never have I felt this conflicted in the show for the disparity between BIG EXCITING DEVELOPMENT/SPECTACLE and the rather rather clumsy and lackluster execution on plot details/common sense basis. 10 times out of 10 when the show has big, momentous events to depict it had always knocked them out of the park. This season may prove to be too short for the story scale and character bits they want to portray.
[7.3/10] Is anyone else thrilled out? Overthrilled? The thrill is gone? I don't know quite how to describe my growing indifference to all of Game of Thrones jawdropping set pieces. So much is happening so fast in this season. The dragons have come out to play twice in three weeks. There have been so many reunions and departures and new missions and old friends coming together once more that it just becomes exhausting at some point. There was a time when I was begging for this stuff. How many scenes in Qarth or Dorne or with Bran not doing much of anything did we suffer through and wonder when the show's major players would come together and the real battle would begin? Fire. Ice. Winter. Fights for the Iron Throne. We're getting everything we've been promised.
And now I want to go back.
Maybe the grass is always greener. Maybe It's too much of a good thing. Whatever the reason, I now find myself wishing that we had more scenes like the first half of this episode, with people just talking to one another, figuring out what they believe and where they stand in relation to one another and to the major events going on in the wider world. With all the glorious incident taking place in this abbreviated season, I've started to relish those quieter moments when characters have those long, quasi-metaphysical conversations about who they are and what they want out of life that used to be the bread and the butter for a show that often felt like it was killing time until the dragons arrive.
Now the dragons have arrived, and so (kind of) have the White Walkers. And the scenes where they collide are done well enough. There's tension and excitement and a boatload of things that make little logical sense. (Why is Gendry so fast? How can Dany get there in time? How is that everyone, save Thoros, can be saved in the nick of time? Just how damn strong is everyone's plot armor?) But I'm kind of bored with spectacle at this point. It's cool, but it doesn't leave an impact on me the way that say, even the Loot Train battle did. You can only do so much of this stuff before it becomes commonplace and you're trying to distinguish redshirts from major characters in a muddy, bearded, snow-drenched mess.
It's not bad, but with so much happening, I just wish the show could slow down a little. I do like the two major threads apart from the battle beyond the wall. Arya and Sansa's conflict is a nice reminder that despite how much the two young women have changed, each sees the other very much in terms of who they were before they left for King's Landing, and I like that that's still causing problems. And I also appreciate Tyrion trying to look at the big picture with Dany and expressing his concerns about her recent, greater willingness to spit fire and use force. With only one episode left in the season, I hope they're going somewhere with both storylines, but there's intrigue in both.
Still, what should be the crown jewel of Game of Thrones' spectacle-fueled majesty just leaves me longing for the days when the show was seemingly marking time, but in the process, delivering more in terms of character and philosophy and the occasional surprise rather than this exciting but exhausting roller coaster.
Omg the cannonarm was the proof: the night king is played by Aaron Rodgers.
“Death is the enemy. The first enemy. And the last.
But we all die.
The enemy always wins but we still need to fight him.”
That's what the white walkers are, Death. There is no reason for them wanting to kill everyone, they don’t want the iron throne, they just want to bring death. The battle scenes were intense. Jon and his crew did fight but it is not without death. Thoros, Uncle Benjen (he was on screen for like 10 seconds) and most importantly Viserion. RIP sorta. The night king has an arm and he now upgraded from an undead horse to an undead dragon.
I’m glad Jon decided it is more important to swallow his pride and bend the knee. I was surprised it was Tormund who kinda talked him into it. I’m sure another near death experience also put some things in perspective. Side Note: How did he not die of hypothermia, I mean he was under a frozen lake for a while and then had a long ride back to the wall in wet clothes?
Daenerys is really going on the offensive recently but one of these times Tyrion is going to be right and she won’t listen to him. She already lost one of her dragons. Will that slow her down? It looks like Jon and her really have some strong feelings for each other now. Once they find out Jon is a Targaryen will she be happy about it or mad since he has a greater claim to the iron throne?
I really enjoyed all the chatter from everyone north of the wall before the fighting. I loved the hound and Tormund going back and forth. Especially when he brings up Brienne. “Ah, dick. I like it. I bet you do.” It's crazy how intertwined everyone is and how they all came from different places to fight this one battle.
The whole Arya and Sansa fighting is a little strange. I don’t know why Arya would just want to kill Sansa? I mean does she really think she is going to betray her family now? When Sansa found the faces it made we think was Arya acting as Littlefinger earlier in the episode? Was she acting as Sansa when she sent away Brienne? Why is Sansa needed in King’s Landing? Does she need to kill them before she can use their faces?
You can really see with the shorter season where the budget is going. The special effects are amazing with all the wights and dragons and undead polar bears. They aren’t cutting any corners. Now the long(er) wait for the finale begins.
the dead army has a dragon, I repeat the dead army has a dragon, holy shitt
The stuff with Arya and Sansa is terrible in all ways. I have a lot of complaints about this season, but this specific storyline might be the worst part. There are some great moments and interactions in this episode, and because of how great those moments are, I give this episode a better rating than I probably should.
awesome episode!! I felt tension every minute. scary ending!
Muhhhhh Queeeeeeeeeeeeen, she’s MUHHHHHHHHH QUEEEEEEEEEEN
I really don't get the hate for this season.
i don't know wassup with arya and sansa, they trippin. And howdafuk is jon's ass always getting saved lol, i mean i aint mad.....but he get saved a lot, shiit he even got brought back to life.
Second time round and still cringe worthy scenes with Arya and Sansa. Sophie Turner's acting has matured and grown along with her character but fuck me, Maisie Williams is shocking. I don't know if it's the writing, the delivery or both but it's embarrassing to watch. Just comes off arrogant and like the actress is too self aware of how 'badass' the character should be. Terrible.
The battle scenes don't disappoint and just as heart breaking this time to see Viserion die.
Red-haired Brienne I suffocate! Happily Alive
The dialogues were great, some locomotion piercings as some quoted, but I just loved it, it does not take away the brightness of the episode. GOT being GOT did not like going to see The Walking Dead Bomb!
Dany and Jon to scenes of them in the amazing room!
Somehow the leaks keep coming........
Truly lives up to the name of "Game of Leaks", as I definitely "leaked" a bit myself at the end of the episode. (ಥ﹏ಥ)
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I'm gonna have to go against the grain here and say this was a poor episode for Game of Thrones standards and not even in my opinion on how the story line will play but the actual episode in it of it's self and in comparison to the rest of the series
The whole season like many have pointed out has been way to hectic without getting any real satisfaction or grasp of the scenes because they're so rushed to advance the plot, as Sansa said this episode Jon has be gone for weeks yet the pacing is so off that nothing can be placed or timed easily and there's just numerous major jumps that seem right to.
So many decisions that just seem absurd and are just for convenience so the guys make it out (the whole expedition/plan was a farce anyways regardless and made up on the spot without any consideration or thought into Cersei's response to it but even ignoring that), that 1st ambush on the tiny group and being able to take down a Walker with such ease so simply to leave one undead remaining (WHY DID ONE REMAIN?!?) for them to bring home was too outlandish and unbelievable. Then only for them to have Gendry be the only one to return(?) to send a raven in time and have Dany save the day all in ONE EPISODE as they sit in a LOTR circle of undead and obviously evacuate unscathed. With the exception of Night King hitting the flying moving dragon at a further distance than the obvious one sitting stationary with the gang!?! Damn, took me way out of the whole episode, no immersion and I thought it was mess compared to say the pit scenes with the dragons or even any other really. Granted this is unprecedentedly more epic and huge in stature but I don't think they did it justice whatsoever
I get the direction they've decided to take the show and I can't blame them, what with not having the books to lean on but I can't help but think how if they (final books) were out by now this whole expedition would've been a whole season with a lot more too it than feeling nothing as I watch a beautiful scene as a dragon comes crashing down black hawk style, and finally what an injustice Benjen going out was... Just sums my critique of convenience and lack of depth especially with the fact that he could have made it out together on that horse but he gets the standard cliched heroic deus ex machina death to "slow down" the dead which is a dumb excuse to sacrifice himself
So now... does the dragon breathe fire or ice?
So long Uncle Benjen, we didn't see a lot of him but he went down fighting. The Night King doesn't just resurrect White Walkers he resurrects anything he damn well wants to. Things are not looking good for Jon Snow & Daenerys Targaryen, I detect love is in the air, but will there be a happy ending, I think not.
Nope nope nope. That did not happen.
I loved this episode although it broke my heart seeing Daenerys crying. I hope the night king burns in hell for what he did.to Viserion, and Daenerys and Jon send him there.
Never knew I needed to see a zombie dragon in my life. But now that I did I can't fucking wait to see it in action. It's going to be so fucking hype. Now I hate myself for watching the leak. 5 more days of waiting. God damnit.
This is the best episode of the entire series.... This is even better than the whole LOTR trilogy combined.... There Is everything in this episode...
Awesome fight scenes... 2 miracle live saving moments... 1 with tormund and another with jon
Dragon died.... Dragon turned...
Knee bend... Alliance made....
And much more..... Watch this episode ASAP... only thing to regret is that now I have to wait for almost 12 days for next episode :(
Watched the making off behind the scenes for this episode and was blown away by the passion and commitment that went into achieving such a marvel,especially the visual effects and what not
I knew it. As soon as I saw the dragon go down. I knew he was gonna get rezzed. Jeezus......why didn't they think about that? xD I mean they just reviewed proper wilding burial procedures.....though honestly I guess there's not really anything they can do about it. It's not like the other dragons could've burned the corpse if it fell underwater. And it's not like the Night King would've let them dredge it up like the whitewalkers did. I was really happy to see Daenerys go off to rescue them. No joke whenever I see the dragons come in I get goosebumps.
And wtf with Uncle Ben? He just came outta nowhere. Did he die for good this time?
I also liked the scene in the boat. Who knew hand holding could be so intimate? I liked getting to see all the dagger wounds as a reminder that he was once dead. Moreso though, I think the commitment by her to help him, and his suggestion to bend the knee further fanned the flames between them I wonder where Sam's discovery well come into play in this developing romance..There've been subtle hints here and there and one of em was his first introduction to dragons. They liked him it seemed.
The Stark sister feud definitely got very dark. Love the game of faces and finding the actual skins was creepy. Still kinda find it as a distraction but probably just me. About the only other major development was I think Littlefinger intentionally suggested Sansa send away Brienne so that she wouldn't interrupt any feuds between the sisters. Other then that I'm glad Sansa finally sees Araya as a real danger or asset. Honestly I hope they pull one over Littlefinger and band together against him.
R.I.P. Viseryon, you will be missed. The Night King needs to go to the Olympics! I hate that cunt so much I can't wait for his death. Also Littlefinger got what he wanted, to turn Arya against Sansa. That's another one I really hate. So painful to see Daenerys suffering after one of her sons died. And the teaser for the season finale almost made my heart stop. WHERE DO I CLICK TO FAST FOWARD TO NEXT SUNDAY??
Pros
+The Expeditionary Force had some top notch dialogue and interesting interaction. The Hound, as always, shines with his blunt wit.
+Brisk pace
+WHAT A FUCKING THROW! Dragons BTFO, Night's King proves he's a better bully than the Dragon Queen.
+Tyrion parts were above average
Neutral
*Wasn't crazy about Arya being a total fucking asshole but it didn't take anything away from the show.
*Needs more Jaime and Euron
Cons
-Too much Walking Dead type action. Do any of the writers remember when you had to kill the Wights with fire? It's kind of a big reason why that army is such a pain in the ass to fight? Any normal army could beat an army of zombies if you just had to re-kill them normally.... you know... before the whole dragon thing...
Bloody hell, what an episode! I never thought I would get so upset over a dragon but that was a sad moment.
WHY?? Not the Dragon.
This episode was epic!!
Finally Khaleesi could see Jon was right.
They need to work super fast.
For a second I taught Arya was going to kill Sansa. That was crazy.
I need to know how this thing is going to end.
Amazing episode and even knowing the spoilers, nothing could have me prepared for THAT viserion scene. Dany, i love you! And that jonerys scene at the end.. wow..the most beautiful of the season for me!
I screamed at several points... the tension was beautifully unbearable throughout. Well made, and pitch perfect.
I'm in shock !!
I didn't see that coming.
FUCK YOU Night King.
untalented, stupid, incredibly boring, far from amazing, rain in the parade, so unbelievably NOT spectacular, always the same, totally ordinary, completely been done before
Two words to reflect on:
HOOOOLYYY SHHHIIIIT!
Damn I thought episode 7x04 is amazing but this is masterpiece!
Blue-Eyes White Dragon
so correct me if i'm wrong, but 3 dragons left dragonstone, 3 were seen fighting army of the dead, 1 got killed, yet drogon was flying over eastwatch all on his own. where's the third dragon?
p.s.: some overall incredibly poor writing this episode.
It had everything I ever dreamt about. And more!
I can't believe Viserion is actually dead & turned. That has to be the most significant death of this season, although I don't know what will happen next episode. The fact that they have a dragon now, makes them a much bigger threat.
Holy S*it! that ending! Wow!
If The Hound and Tormund did a spin-off series, I would be so there. Overall, there was lots of fun and terror in this one, but so much stupid, as well. For one thing, the whole plan to capture a wight was just so wrong on so many levels. For another, the time/geography factor. A lot happened while our gang spent one night on that little island. And then when Uncle Benjen saves Jon, there's "no time" for him to hop on the back of the horse and ride away with Jon? And then there's Arya. She's too smart and wily in her own right to get sucked into Littlefinger's games and manipulations so quickly and fully. And finally, on a real-world level, I still can't figure out why HBO is in such a hurry to end this show. It's getting terrific ratings and there's been no drop-off in interest from fans, but they're rushing so fast to an ending that it's really starting to hurt the narrative in all sorts of ways. In fact, all of my complaints about this one can be traced back to the time constraints under which the writers are writing these days. And it's more than a little unfortunate.
Wow... all I can say is WOW!!
That episode was gorgeous... A bit rushed, but so damn good. Now I feel really bad for Dany btw.
Great episode! Every time I see the white walkers, I get panic attacks. I was on the edge of my seat. The Hound stirring up crap by throwing the rocks at the walkers, if he didn't do anything they would be fine. I'm sad about Danny's dragon, but I knew he would be becoming the ice dragon. I loved how Jon called her "Dany".
I have no words after this episode, just breathtaking and beautiful and intense and left me breathless.
The comedy in this episode was awesome! XD
Damn I didn't expect a dragon to go to White walker side! The finale's gonna be epic!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh. I'm like go go go Gendry, go!!!!!
and now???? WTF A dragon that spits ice we are going to see now ???
is this what having an orgasm feels like ??
Get hyped for the Lich Night King and Sindragosa Viserion
Best episode of the whole series... until the next best one. If rating had "20", I would have given that!
YOU KNOW NOTHING JON SNOW
We do love HBO.. Spain.
So many great things happen but also some really absurd and stupid ones.
The ratings for the episodes this season are an absolute joke.
Beric Dondarrion: "Death is the enemy. The first enemy and the last. The enemy always wins and we still need to fight him."
Great episode! Probably the best so far of this show. Too many things happen, too many little dramas and there's the meaning of loyalty, bravery, courage, and fear taken into account. Jon and Daenerys seem to be one to each other, and the dragon becoming a zombie... wow!
This is one of those episodes that make you breathless all the time. The whole group is isolated, surrounded by the army of the dead... I get so tense. Even more so when they realize that it is "safe" to cross and that whole attack begins. The producers knows how to work with these scenes...
On the other hand, they were so stupid for going beyond the wall. Daenerys wouldn't lose any dragon if they had thought a little more. I find the image of Viserion falling so painful. We saw these dragons born and grow, man. I don't accept their death.
Arya judging Sansa for a mistake made when she was being coerced by people bigger than her. Sansa has evolved too much. This confrontation between the two, especially the last one, was frightening.
That scene between Jon & Dany umm perhaps not dany! DELIGHTFUL..
Jon and his friends' excursion to the wight territory seemed not a very good idea, it wasn't well planned and they got into serious trouble, particulary after the Hound played the "fool of a Took" game. You should never throw stones in the enemy territory. It was lucky dragons can travel so fast throughout Westeros. It is a pity that the protagonists have lost one dragon, I never really managed to tell them apart but it was sad to see the majestic dragon fall, particularly as it means a victory for the Night King's team. A wight dragon seems a terrible weapon, through perhaps it would not breathe fire as ordinary dragons. It was sad to see uncle Benjen's last stand, too. I wonder what the direwolf Ghost has been up to recently, it hasn't been shown for quite a long time.
BEST EPISODE ENDING EVER!!!!!!!11one1!!!1!
I could have never imagined that the dead dragon would open the eye and it'd be blue now!!!
Sigh...
Anyway, decent episode. If it wasn't for Sansa being back to her stupid self, and Arya being a twat for no reason at all... :rolling_eyes:
This is when things start do go bad... from here on, the show is just a big disaster.
This episode is just a dumb way to give a dragon to the Night King.
Honestly, those dragons are still little babies to me and I'm sad, even though it was a pretty cool scene (even if way too convenient all around). I did like the interactions between the expedition though, especially anything with the Hound and/or Tormund.
I really don't like Arya and Sansa's conflict. Arya should be smarter than this, and so should Sansa. Thankfully, the ending looked like it's not as bad as expected.
I never thought I cried over a dragon! :’(
I cried when the dragon died. Saddest moment of the show for me so far.
omg omg omg ommmmggg. first i almost cried when that dragon died, then......... i knew when i saw those chains that it was for that dragon and he's about to turn it, then....... my heart stopped when his eyes turned to icy blue. this is by far the most shocking episode of the series.
They are seen riding horses and talking. Episode 9 as always, does not disappoint, That teleportation, that bad boss
Why can't the strak just work together
Forget the stupid past and live in the present and solve the problems together but fighting ;-(
I saw the leak but well I will be seeing it again tomorrow
The spoilers totally didn't ruin this episode at all. Knowing what will happen in the season finally has taken away my need to see it. Such a good show.
I couldn't have imagined a zombie dragon in this series!
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i'm so emotional over a dragon