[6.0/10] Oh man, what a crock this is. It is so full of cheats and shortcuts and self contradictions that it's hard to take any of it seriously. Suddenly, we've pivoted to the prospect of mortality and self-sacrifice as the most important theme of the season, despite the fact that those have been, at best, tangential to the ideas the show was exploring up until...last week.
And it's totally contradicted by what the episode actually does! Picard trying to "give his life" to prove to Soji that organics is good would have more weight if we hadn't seen him jump into death-defying situations throughout the season. What makes this one any different? And when he "dies", it's not because the Romulans blast him or really anything to do with his grand stand. His brain abnormality just acts up when it's dramatically convenient, with no apparent connection to his attempt at self sacrifice.
Then the episode just wipes away that sacrifice anyway! I can't tell you what a cheat it feels like to have Picard die, learn a very important lesson about the beauty of life coming from the fact that it's finite, only for him to then immediately cheat death! Then the whole bending over backwards to try to explain that even though he has an android body now, he'll age normally feels contrived and bullshit as hell. It's a dumb plot choice that immediately contradicts the episodes laudable themes about accepting mortality as something inherently human.
It's not all bad. As deus ex machina as Riker's arrival, it's still a cool moment. As weird as Data looks in the "quantum simulation" (oh brother), his death and appreciation for Picard's love is moving. And even if Jurati feels like she's from a different show, her quips and jibes got a chuckle out of me.
Everything in this finale is just so rushed and glancing and ultimately unsatisfying. There's some good ideas here, but they're all shortchanged for a meditation on death that feels out of step with the show's ideas to this point, and a bunch of easy plot fixes and character relationships that haven't actually been developed.
On the whole, this season was a real missed opportunity. Assembling this kind of talent and deploying it only for this wobbly mess of a season is a big shame. I'm a sucker, so I'll be back for season 2, and I hope they'll work out the kinks But after this, I'm not terribly optimistic.
With how bad our world is right now, sometimes you just need to cry, and damnit I cried until I couldn't anymore. This last episode was more emotionally charged than any episode of Discovery, and I'm all for it. So much nostalgia. I hope Sir Patrick Stewart hangs around for many seasons to come.
Still processing what I've just watched. Satisfied ? Can't say I am.
It would have been better had Picard really died. And I mean that with all the respect and love I have for the character and the actor. What sense does it make to have an emotional last scene and even showing how they all deal with his death and then, è voila, he's back. Then come up with a bunch of explanations why he's still old and why he will die because, that's clearly what he wants. I know he wasn't about to die with a second season already confirmed (althought right now I think it will be a long time before that happens) or that someone else would play a younger version of him (Tom Hardy, anyone ?).
The battle between the Romulans and the flowers really looked awesome but the stand-off with the Federation was a bit of an overkill. To many ships for a TV screen, they were literally just dots. A little bit too much of a wow-factor. And, like the cavalry always does, they arrived in the nick of time. The whole solution of all the problems presented at this point was to easy as everything just conveniently falls into place. They get into the compound, Soong sees the memory and has a little thingy to just shut Sutra down. I expected a little bit more creativity.
All bad then ? No. The scenes between Picard and Data were really great for an old time TNG fan. And even the conversion Picard had with Jurati (who ultimately redeemed herself) about what it means to live - I liked that very much and would have loved to see more of that in general.
The whole story itself would have been great for a 2 1/2 hour (final) TNG movie. Because that is what it felt like in the end. It tries to appeal to a larger audience while using the lore but ignoring the Vision of Star Trek.
Raffi and Seven all of a sudden interlocking hands at the end as if they've a budding relationship was a complete WTF and 100% unearned. There's been no indication that Seven or Raffi are bisexual. If anything, I was half-expecting Seven and Rios to kiss after Picard's death. Have Raffi and Seven even shared much screentime??
It feels like lame pandering - if the show wanted to include an LGBT relationship (which would be great), I'd rather they had explored the hinted at attraction between Elnor and Hugh before the latter's untimely demise.
Beyond all that, this finale was weak and a disappointing end to the first season. Above all else, I hope that's the last we've seen of Narek.
Wow. Talk about sticking the landing. There's a lot to process for me here, but this was so emotionally powerful, epic and thematically beautiful. I am so excited to be a Star Trek fan right now with the thought of everything that may lie ahead.
This show has such a good ensemble cast too, I'm completely in love with these characters.
The theme of this season has been there in the title sequence from the first episode: Picard, a broken man, needing to heal and be put back together. His guilt over the death of Data needed closure, his emotional resistance to needing others needed to be addressed. He's been missing a family and he needed to forge a new one. He needed purpose. It managed to fulfil this wonderfully.
My main criticism is what a ridiculous character Commodore Oh was. She kept preparing to cleanse the planet without actually doing it. It was like watching a children's cartoon whenever she was on, the only thing missing was her twirling a moustache and saying "mwah ha ha haa!"
Does ANYONE who writes this stuff truly appreciate the legacy that came before it? Me thinks not....
What a crapshow. Thank god it's so ludicrous I have no problems removing it from canon. It did reduce my respect for Patrick Steward as he willingly helped destroy the legacy of Trek and his character.
The only good thing was seeing Riker in the captains seat and the fact it's over... for now.
I'd say lets hope season 2 will be better but then I remember saying that for Discovery every time and after hearing Picard would be back. Shame on CBS, Chabon, Goldsman, Steward and everyone else
Absolutely superb. Who would have thought I would be crying over a fictional Admiral and then a few minutes later a fictional android Loved it.Roll on Season 2
Uch what cheesy, convenient garbage. It's like this whole series was written by someone who has never written a sci-fi series before (oh wait, it was). Every aspect of this show is very overtly thrown in as a convenient prop to attempt to fix a plot hole, with no subtlety or layering whatsoever. The core plot about super advanced robots coming to destroy all the humans is such a rip off of other stories like Descender. Throwing in at the end that Seven and Raffi are now lesbians together is a bit ridiculous. Killing off Data like that while replacing Picard with a robot copy of himself yet acting like it's somehow still him is downright stupid. The entire Borg subplot felt completely unnecessary. The convenient speed with which this synthetics ban was lifted was a joke. The laziness of the graphics team that they couldn't design more than one ship at the end for either the Romulans or the Starfleet armadas is laughable (they even had to work it into the script to try and explain why every one of those ships was identical). Also, why was Starfleet initially refusing to do anything and now they're suddenly ready to send one of the biggest fleets we've ever seen in a Star Trek show? Why is Agnes suddenly absolved of murdering Bruce Maddox?
Also the design of La Sirena is so decidedly un-Star Trek — it looks like it was a rip-off of something from Mass Effect.
I really had faith in Patrick Stewart that he was reviving this character for something worthwhile, but instead all we got was this pandering, juvenile trash heap of a show.
Loved it....great, so emotional and a few laughs....hopefully we’ll have more seasons Would have been even better if the episode 9 and the final were an extended episode
Last week I saw a page of a script that was supposedly leaked, where Agnes was trying to talk Rios into beaming down with her so they could be together, and he said he would just have to show her...and, then he deactivated himself.
So, I truly thought Agnes would double-cross A.I. Soong, and that Rios would end up in the golum.
That single bit of mis-direction kept this entire episode blissfully opaque to me, and I had no expectations.
In the end I don't think I've had such a strong emotional reaction to an episode of Star Trek in quite a while. Of course, it's different from those storylines from Deep Space 9 or Voyager (like some involving the Doctor/EMH), but this was saying goodbye to a beloved character.
Dopamine and serial teledramas...it's a very personal equation; just like whether you choose to invest yourself in a poem, or not. If you don't, then you won't enjoy it.
I didn't want to skip the opening credits, and while they played I let myself enjoy the emotions that played across my mind, and the anticipation...even the dread at having to possibly wait another year for the next season, but I took some dopamine accesses while the music played.... Because, "I don't want the game to end."
I think this season could have used one more episode or an extra 30 mins to fully end the season. Feel a bit rushed. Narek did not even appear at the end so we do not know what happened to him. Could have use some more borg cube action and more space battles even if briefly against the mysterious enemy. Narek sister getting beaten like that also felt rushed. Overall though I like this show. Hope Patrick Stewart can stay healthy a long time for more of his great acting :smiley:
I was pretty sure Picard was going into the golem. Once they killed him I was certain. I would like to tell them to go screw themselves for killing Data. Again! All in all, it was pretty good. Riker was a bit of a surprise. A welcome one.
What I found less than pleasing. All the ships being the same. All the Romulan ships were one model and all the Star Fleet ship were one model.
The synthetics were wishy washy. First they like Picard. Then they don't like him. I guess they all went back to liking him in the end because they didn't try and stop him or Soji.
I think we all knew Picard was going to end up in that body as soon as it was revealed last week. Still a good episode. I liked seeing what is implied to be the permanent crew gathering at the end of the episode, though I'm trying to wrap my head around the thought of Raffi playing Kal-toh.
A great episode, a fine ending to a fantastic season. The most interest I've had in a Star Trek season in years. I must admit, tho, I didn't much care for Picard coming back after such an emotional ending (at least for me, I cried as he died as he identifies for me Star Trek as much as Kirk, Spock, etc., does.) It feels like such a cheat, although it's understandable as it would be hard for Star Trek Picard to continue if Picard is dead. TV must continue to fill the pockets of it's masters!
I feel kinda cheated from that fake out with Picard his death. I don't know why the writers tried to put several high emotional stakes into 1 episode, with several of them feeling unneeded, while neglecting many loose threads.
Overall, this show is very good, but after this episode I have a feeling some of the writers have difficulty with creating overall story structure. With (high budget) series being more and more like movies these days (and this series definitely having the allure of one) I also expect more from the writers to treat the stories and characters with more consistency, and not cram too many different stories to follow or (fake) drama into a show. They chose for a season overarching story instead of an episodic one, so a disappointment at the end like this affects the whole show, not just a single episode (although the cracks started to show in the last episode already.)
It is not just Picard's death fake out. Rios and Agnes matching was dumb (but at least it was a hinted at, although without clear explanation) and made no sense for either of the characters. Seven of Nine and Raffi (which tbh was my least favourite character to begin with) romantic involvement tease at the end felt like I was watching The CW network, and made completely 0 sense. Starfleet (Riker) flying in last minute also looked like a result of the writers getting stuck. Soji her motivation for her choices were remarkably underdeveloped. Why did the Borg cube weapons have to be activated, when it is not used at all, except to get abused by the villain. Why do all the synths just agree with whatever Soj/Sutra/Saga say or want. What are the flowers? So many questions are left unanswered, so why did they introduce all those things so close to the end of the season?
I hoped the evil synth overlords would enter the stage, and turn out to be very different than anyone would have expected. I think that would have been far more interesting, match better with Star Trek themes (curiosity and exploration)
I feel disappointed after having a pretty good run this season, that they ended it like this.
I think this made up for the mess that was nemesis, what a beautiful goodbye scene between picard and data, It was really emotional. I’m looking forward for season 2. AMAZINGLY DONE
Oh well... Words fail me to describe the frustration. At least we got to see Riker back in a Starfleet uniform, on the bridge of his own ship.
This one was a half-hour's worth of an okay -- not good and certainly not great, but okay -- finale followed by 20+ minutes of the writers making like a bunch of college freshmen sitting around getting baked on a Friday night and having Big Thoughts About Life that seem original to them based on the two weeks of Philosophy 101 that they've had so far. The sheer volume of navel-gazing banality was impressive, but not at all in a good way. And then there was the fan service, which seemed to have only one rule: there is no such thing as too much pandering.
In short, this season had some great moments, but this finale was an embarrassing flop.
The deus ex machina within minutes of a tragic death really invalidates the whole thing, and highlights the problem with this whole show - the writing. You can see sparks of a good story every now and then, and they clearly have all the components to do something great, but it never really comes together to something more than OK. And after the series finale, everyone and everything is fine, all problems are solved, and everyone can live happily ever after, and Paramount / CBS can squeeze some more money out of a dying franchise in another season.
I'm sure the stakes will suddenly be very high again, and in the end, everyone will be fine. I don't care anymore. If Patrick Stewart wants to destroy his iconic role, let him.
It was a nice series for fans. Blue Skies was the song Data had stuck in his head when Riker first met him. He was trying to whistle it. Riker couldn’t remember the song. But Data in fact sang it at his wedding in Star Trek: Nemesis. Anyway it was nice that they included the song in the season finale. So, this series had some Easter eggs for fans.I actually was more into the Next Generation movies. Than the series. I probably missed a lot more Easter eggs for fans.Narek being arrested was apparently edited out, I read. That explains him vanishing suddenly. I don’t know why they cut that out. Story wise, the season could have been stronger. However, it’s the Easter eggs and respect shown to the Data character. That I enjoyed.
Data's daughter sings, "Blue Sky"
Good end of season, now, to wait for season 2
Chekhov's Golem much! I think I was more emotional about Picard dying coz it was giving me Logan flashbacks coz all the way through I knew they'd resurrect him. They'd hinted about it enough.All in all the Mass Effect storyline was averted and it was satisfying to see Starfleet rock up like that. They tied up the storyline with a bow and completed Data's journey. No idea where season 2 go.
Also as much as I'm thrilled they made Seven's sexuality more overt I'd rather have had some flirtation that would develop into more next season. That double couple reveal at the end just skipped the best part of people getting together for me.
It was a journey, but it ended up in a happy ending instead. No universe-changing consequences at all. The uber-androids should have made it through, destroyed half the Romulan ships, half the Starfleet ships, then set it up for season 2 :)
I haven’t finished the episode yet, but I was screaming at 7 of 9 when she failed to kill the Romulan, and instead says “step away from the console “. Really? How foolish was that? It was obviously written to have another hand to hand combat scene with the ladies, but only after having one of them do something enormously stupid.
I love this series, every single episode!