Love it. "Fear is the Destroyer...."
Just Wow!
Opposed to other reviews, I think the pacing is actually good in this Episode.
It is the first one I could actually feel things happening.
It was a bit sad, that Sevens best Scene was immediately followed by the worst turnoff ever...
"WE ARE BORG" actually gave me goosebumps coming from her - I wish they would have taken a minute showing something before the Drones got flushed...
They could have left out a good chunk of the episode. But right towards the end, when they all started to work together, that felt like Star Trek. Putting the big picture in front of you and not your personal gains. Helping those who need help.
I don't care if that sounds nostalgic, if people say "this is a different time, a different Star Trek". If it says Star Trek it should adhere to those philosophies.
And now the dinosaur walks back in the night. :laughing:
WE ARE BORG.
Those words, spoken by a thousand voices, as one, froze me on my seat. The best part of this episode, by far, was the return of the fierce, overpowering, ominous Borg... Even if only for a couple of seconds. Now, that's the kind of fanservice I like! And the thought of Seven of Nine as a new Borg Queen... Hmmmm! Delicious! Though I like her the way she is. Too bad what happened right after the return of the Borg, though... So frustrating!
Also, would the Borg really be dumb enough to leave behind a broken cube so that other species could salvage it and learn from it about the Borg, maybe even their weaknesses? Or maybe the Borg consider themselves to be so advanced, perfect and powerful that they don't really give a damn about anything that "inferior" species may be doing about them.
The more I watch this show, the more it feels that they nerfed Picard. Or maybe it's just old age that caught up with him. Either way, that's a captain without his mojo.
Holy crap! They literally tore the story from Mass Effect!
Great episode and nice to get answers but those were some familiar answers. Synthetic life advancements reaching a threshold and triggering an attack by a powerful enemy? We need to get Commander Shepard up in here coz the Reapers are coming!
P.s under utilising Seven again but nice to have her either way.
What a crapfest in every single way. From plotholes to acting to all the hidden agenda, the nonsensical writing and ludicrous "twists" everyone saw coming... Even without the leaks.
This isn't Jean-Luc Picard, this isn't Star Trek, this is crap.
Love the characters, but I think pacing is really an issue with this show. This episode felt like a 50+ minute exposition dump. Hopefully now that so much of the backstory is laid bare the last 2 episodes will flow much better.
I really don’t like how they use same actor for the ship computer as well. I know this helps them keep things cheap but it sucks.
This was a good episode. Really good but it could have been great. They needed to do more with the Borg. They built up Seven connecting to the cube and activating the Borg then squat. Once the Borg were activated space vacuum should not have killed them. They long ago fixed that issue. I don't even think they would have all gotten sucked out. Maybe they'll show them being beamed back aboard.
Yeah, a nice episode but lots of stuff going on... :o :)
So Elnor did indeed call the Fenris Rangers and Seven's back :)
That warnings about The Destroyers seemed quite bullshit at first as history isn't bound to repeat itself. But it got more interesting towards the end. It's also quite ridiculous how almost all of the ones that saw the memories immediately committed suicide. I guess it's more than memories/history. It isn't surprising though that Narissa survived. She already had almost no empathy.
But it's interesting to learn that Narissa's mother(?) is apparently the one that broke the Borg cube with despair.
Picard got a "shut the fuck up" from Starfleet :D
That Borg cube repairing itself was quite cool! And the micro-collective was interesting, yet scary/bad. Basically all of the scenes with Seven were cool and interesting :) It just sucks that they lost... :o If only Seven would've seen that move with the airlocks coming of if she could've taken exclusive controll of the cube. It really really sucked that Narissa got away at the end. I hope she has something bad coming for her! All of those (x)Bs dying really sucked... :o
Raffi did a really good job and got very close to all of it! I guess she can be quite productive without access to alcohol :D
The Rios EMHs are entertaining :D
Rios was quite broken though - I'm glad he's getting better and likely for good.
Agnes is very borken though and probably won't get much better anytime soon. However, she said that "she [Commodore Oh] put poison into my mind" and mentioned a "psychic block". Could be just something Agnes' brain invented to make sense of it all / process it but if that's true it would make sense that she did what she did as she basically go hacked.
Soji entrance during the discussion between Agnes and Picard about The Destroyers was perfect: "Me."
Agnes talking to Soji was great though.
The most interesting thing form the discussion about The Destroyers was "somebody shows up, somebody really bad". Does this mean the issue weren't the synthetic lifeforms (AGIs / technological singularity) but some bigger force in the universe (God/Creators)?
Picard: "Actually, I don't know how to work this."
And a good quote at the end: "Fear is the great destroyer".
Nice, Picard mentioned Zefram Cochrane (James Cromwell).
Saying that the end justifies the means is almost never true. Just because you let it happen once doesn't mean you let it happen twice
RIOS: "It took her all of five minutes to hack my ship, Picard. And now, maybe there's a whole planet of them. Raffi said the Romulans call her 'the Destroyer.' What if they're right?"
PICARD: "They may be right about what happened 200,000 years ago. The past is written. But the future is left for us to write, and we have powerful tools, Rios: openness, optimism and the spirit of curiosity."
HAHAHAHAHA! Only an English/liberal arts major could possibly think that you win battles (let alone wars) with nothing more than warm fuzzies. Oh, well. This was a good outing up until this stuff late in the game, with plenty going for it. It's just a shame that someone in the writers' room had to go all Woodstock there at the end.
Review by Andrew BloomVIP 9BlockedParentSpoilers2020-03-13T23:13:35Z
Hey! We finally got some answers to a lot of the season’s big questions! That is definitely worth something! The other side of the coin is that the answers come out really conveniently just as the show is heading into its (presumably) fireworks-filled final pair of episodes. I don’t know why the show waited this long to do the reveals, but hey, I’m glad we at least get them now.
Basically, this is another evil Admiral (or, in this case, commodore) situation. As we all suspected, Zhat Vash infiltrated Starfleet and used its surreptitious tendrils to influence things their way. Their big motivations is to stamp out AI, out of a fear that we’ll hit the technological singularity and eb destroyed, as the ancient civilization that built “The Admonition” did. That’s not bad! It didn’t need to be shrouded in mystery for so long, but it works as a rationale behind the baddies actions.
And yet there’s a real small universe problem that irks me, especially with Ramdha turning out to be Narissa’s aunt and Rios having already met one of Soji’s duplicates and all the other little unnecessary coincidence and family ties that make this seem like a vast conspiracy that only really affects twelve people who happen to be characters in this show.
Still, this one has some good scenes, particularly Picard’s conversations with Soji and Rios. The former is incredibly heartening for anyone who appreciated the Picard/Data relationship developed throughout TNG and the latter is an easy excuse to have Picard practically announce the viewpoint of the show, but it still works.
Granted, there’s a lot of exposition here, much of it pretty contrived, but at least the cards are all on the table now. I could have down without the weak attempts at comedy via Rios’s holograms, and things are coming together at a really convenient time, but the core material here is good, and the character work is solid, so I still enjoyed this one even if it’s easy to see the strings in places.