Of course Logan has to win. It's fucking reality. I really like this, and that now all the children are together. When I saw Tom talking with Greg I knew he wasn't gonna go against Logan with all the respect he had won (and that Logan was waiting for the children to fuck 'em). That's why he said "make a deal with the devil". And it all comes from character's shaping the show. Tom's whole arc was for that finale, you can't write his last decision in any other way.
Next season is gonna be great.
Wow. Great season finale. I really wish there was another episode.
This show goes in the right direction every. single. time. I thought there was no way they could keep Kendall alive but that is why Jesse Armstrong is writing this show and not me.
Overall this season is a slight step-down from the second, but whew that finale was the series' best. Brutal, funny, tragic, and almost unbearably suspenseful. Skarsgard's story of ancient Roman slaves is such a succinct summary of the Roy family arc. The finale even retroactively elevates the path that leads to it a bit, which is no small feat. Also, I don't care how impractical it is, Emmys for all the five Roys please.
I love this show!!
Tom mf Wambsgambs you son of a bitch… and the siblings being together??? I want S4 immediately
Tom: "Do you want a deal with the devil?"
Greg: "Well...what am I gonna do with a soul anyways?"
Succession season 3 finale proved once again the importance of a satisfying ending because a reader/viewer's most long-lasting memory of your story will be its ending, thus making them to forget how the rest was bland. Succession's Red Wedding episode was amazing. It's obvious in hindsight that everything that happened this episode was going to happen, they have been setting Tom up for this since the beginning of the series, so I don't think it was shocking at all. It's brilliant but not shocking.
The devil works hard, but Logan Roy works harder. The man doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself. What's so ironic is Logan claimed he wants to see killer instinct in his children but the second they try to make boss moves he cuts them off at the legs. This should have been the moment he was waiting for - his kids finally realizing they're stronger together. But at the end of the day Logan doesn't want anyone to succeed him. He is also such a big hypocrite – while, yes his kids should've tried to succeed and made their own money, they can't because all of their lives Logan keeps them emotionally dependent on him. For all three seasons, he had them thinking they could finally win his approval, as long as they did everything he said, only to learn that it will never be enough. He was using his own children, only to throw them away once he saw the best deal for himself.
Can you really change the terms of the divorce that happened twenty years ago?
The scene with Kendall coming clean to his siblings was the catharsis he desperately needed. And the way it took all of Roman's strength to stand up to his dad, but then boom, Logan fucks them all as usual.
Connor repeating that he's the eldest son was funny. I sometimes forget there's a fourth Roy kid.
Tom stabbing Shiv in the back makes perfect sense after all the shit he put up with her. She was all shocked pikachu face because she is so unbelievably unaware and lacks any self-awareness. She kept underestimating how awful her relationship with Tom has become. The look in Shiv's eyes at the end was brutal - the anger and hatred of it all. I hope we are getting Gone Girl next year! Tom is probably the worst character on the show - the Roys were brought up by their terrible father and mother to be cruel and horrible, they don't know any better. But Tom worked to get here. Yes, he loves Shiv, but I do not think he would've kept swallowing her treatment of him if it wasn't for her rich family that gave him job, money, and status.
Roman looked so broken, practically in tears, when he asked Gerri for help but she betrayed him as well. I'm glad the writers didn't play into the shippers with them (they still went a little over the board this season) and actually gave us an interesting story there.
Season 3 was rather drowsy in comparison to previous ones, especially season 2, which is basically flawless. Not a lot really happened outside of the demise of Kendall (again). Season 3 never quite lived up to the plot it promised and the hype from the previous seasons. Season 2 ended so strong, set the expectation Kendall would become a 'killer', only to make him seem extremely incompetent and far from being ready to take down his dad. The whole thing has been as anticlimactic as they come. Jeremy Strong plays it well but at some point it's becoming tedious.
Season 3 has become so redundant. Every episode started to mirror the previous, and it was very obvious that the writers kept dragging the story, wanting to make the little progress in the final episode. All this build up and no execution. The senate hearing and Tom going to jail becomes ... nothing. The fed investigation - nothing. The search for new CEO - nothing. Search for the next president becomes...? Nothing there as well. During the whole season, they tee up these huge points constantly and then get cold feet approaching anything momentous.
I hope we see a more fast paced Season 4. This one was too much of a slow burn. I hope the creators do something with the plotlines they create next season, not just writing them off at the start of episodes in 10 minutes scenes. And most importantly, I hope they force the characters into highly unfamiliar territory.
Souls are boring. Boo souls.
I'll be damned if I don't feel the same way as I did at the end of season 2: how long can they go with the same powerplays over and over and over again? Because besides the fact that this season cemented the show as one of HBO's greatest (and reassured its position of the top currently on-air television), it doesn't feel that much has changed. The circumstances change from coup to hostile takeover to merging as equals and the characters can learn from these, sure, but they can't change their positions, Logan always wins, the kids always lose, it doesn't matter if they actually stick together for once. Maybe the creators can get away with this by incorporating the cycle of abuse with a cycle where characters try to move but they always come a full circle and end up where they started or lower. Before this season I thought as long as they can do it well, they can go on about it forever, but eventhough I think this season was as good as the previous (only the same and not really better because a lot of times the first half of the episodes felt like a fun slow burner, and only the second halves went to 9 or 10 out of ten, but those always delivered), I'm left with the same feeling again that maybe, just maybe, if its characters can't change and we will just see yet another side of emotional abuse, then the next season should be the last. But for real this time.
Since season 1, I've been having the feeling Greg is somehow, at some point, gonna be the ultimate winner (and/or even 'the' successor) of this show. I mean, just look how far he has already gotten from absolutely nowhere. And the fact that Tom brought him in on Logan's good side, at the end of this episode, also only works in his favor! Just hope I am somehow right, really have respect for that dude :smile:
Dear lord this fucking family
The only great thing about this entire season was the last 15 mins.
Wow… literally took my breath away. Superb writing and acting. 10/10
Kendall, Shiv and Roman just got turned into Tomolettes.
Amazing season finale, so much that went down that's pretty game changing towards how this show will look like next season. It was great to see Kendall receive warmth from his siblings even though they've been at each other's throats throughout the season. Knowing what happened, it's now clear why Jesse Armstrong has only 4 or 5 seasons of this show planned, so now the question is whether or not next year will be the final season. Personally, I'm hoping that we get 5 but knowing where things are headed, it appears we're pretty close to the end.
This episode left me in tears. What a masterpiece!
as Logan says:
"I FUCKING WIN"
This episode was fine, but it’s really just the same thing over. I think the Roy kids could really use some therapy maybe they would stop hurting themselves so much with their dad like come on! After all that’s happened they ASK him for anything? He does not see the world that way. Love Tom and he fucked Shiv so I think she finally can respect him now.
Wow, a family of billionaires and Siobhan wears the least flattering dress I've ever seen on a woman. And then the camera continuously focuses on them.
As good as her wardrobe choices usually are, as bad was this.
Otherwise the show is breathing its dying breaths for me.
This is the 3rd season in a row Logan won and the second time his ex-wife did the saving. This season he even won twice against all the odds. And it is always a last minute reveal that Logan actually knew everything everyone was doing.
Yes, that is how you actually win in real life (given that you have the means and skills to actually implement countermeasures).
It feels repetitive and makes the show less interesting.
Some people stated, that its the best Show on TV. For seasons 1 that was true, but I think Yellowstone overtook Succession somewhere during their season 2 runs.
Wow. The grandiose melodrama hits like a brick wall. Exceptional television.
this season finale was Verstappen getting ahead of Hamilton in the last lap.
This was definitely the siblings' episode and it was amazing. Fucking Shiv's coming! Yeah it's not like I don't understand Tom and feel for him and such, but I'm team Roy children for some reason because I'm too attached by now to ever root for anyone else above them. Roman's heart breaking on camera was pretty chilling to watch, too
I was starting to doubt whether they could blow my mind for the finale when the setting for it didn't seem like the most high stakes ever. I was once again proven that trusting the people in charge of making this will always be the right choice
I’ve been waiting the entire show for the siblings to be on the same side and finally got it! Only for them to lose. (Also did we know Connor had a different mom? I just found out this episode)
I don’t actually hate what Logan did… like none of the kids are fitted for that position, Roman I root for him in life but for the job I don’t see it, Shiv was my choice a while ago but like that woman said last season she thinks she is smarter than she really is and she’s never worked on the company, all she had to do was work there for a couple of years, and Kendall was the obvious choice a while ago but he truly can’t handle it, it’s for his own good. At this point Connor would be the better option. Even Greg! So yeah what’s wrong with selling? Everyone gets their piece and they can do whatever they want, except they think they are entitled to this. Proud of Roman for standing against his dad. And I don’t understand yet why Tom did what he did, cause it’s not like he would have a position in the family/board if Shiv divorces him.
Get in there Greg... If Roman marries her he'll invade France...
this is the best episode so far. one of the best episodes of tv ever. the fashion is so incredible. the sets are perfectly decorated and shot. the siblings together gives me fucking goosebumps. every single character is so unique and unlike any other character in tv i watch. every actor delivers their lines so perfectly. as abhorrent as kendall is, i sympathize with him and am glad the siblings are on his side now. siobhan is a nightmare of a wife and an absolutely stone cold bitch but god is she powerful. rome is reprehensible but i love him to death, someone please get him some therapy. greg and tom dream team. I LOVE THIS SHOW.
holy fucking shit. fucking intense. i dont know if im ready for the final season.
Wait did Tom actually tell cause I’m so confused!! I just thought Logan did that gesture to Tom at the end to fuck with everyone’s head, like make them think he did it and they turn on each either. Shit like that. Damn.
holy fucking SHIT. how am I supposed to just wait for season 4 after a finale like that? incredible.
Wow! What a season finale!
Woah :exploding_head: Just Woah. Woah. Again, Woah.
OMG WTF this was too unreal im gonna cry
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Holy fuck. I have goosebumps. Might be the best episode of TV this year. Fucking amazing. Honestly, I can't blame Tom for what he did, he's taken so much shit from everyone, including his own wife.