What is Iceman doing with pyro's powers? Haha
If The Boys is usually chock full of superhero films parody, then this episode feels like a love letter to Logan (2017) and (the trailer version of) The New Mutants (2020). This is even more so with the casting of Shawn Ashmore, who played Iceman on X-Men, as Lamplighter.
It opens up with Homelander being sexually aroused by Stormfront while crushing the head of a thief in an alley. It recalls the scene back in Season 1 when Homelander casually rips through a gunman's chest for a show, but this time it's even more vulgar. As Homelander gets more aroused, his grip on the thief's head gets firmer, until it eventually crushes him into pieces. Then, fast forward to the end of the episode, we see Homelander confronting Stormfront, and her opening up to Homelander about her past, while she preaches of the importance of purity of their "race". They then continued to make out. There is something to be said here about indulgence in sexual and power fantasy.
This episode also starts to recenter the orientation. If in the first season we get to see the story progresses from the eyes of Hughie - the only seemingly sane person among the ragtag group of rebels - this episode shows how others see Hughie. Butcher, always an efficient, ruthless killer he is, is contrasted to Annie/Starlight who believes she retains her compassion even though she's a supe. Annie relentlessly tries to stop Butcher from senseless killing; though for Butcher she still inhibits the one thing he hate the most. "What you can't stand is in my blood, I'm a subhuman to you," Annie confronts Butcher. Yet when situation forced her to take extra measures, Annie sees herself doing something that only Butcher would do. "I'm not like you," she insists. However they then find what really makes them similar, but different at the same time: their attraction to Hughie.
Last, The Boys never stops to take a jab to corporatization of superhero. '"'A-Train' is a trademark. You're just another nobody from the South Side of Chicago" reminds me of the very early episodes in S1, when Homelander thought they were still bound by corporate rules (something that he seems to try to break free in this season).
So sups were created by Nazi Germany now and the Endgame of the Company with a black CEO is white Supremacy?
I hope they clear the role of Stormfront and the guy running the Company who I don't remember the name of soon, because right now it looks like writers and recruitment didn't talk to each other.
There were better, more logical reasons for them to continue testing so they can give Compund V to adults (like predictability - adults have usually already shown their personality, while children are still forming theirs - giving compund V to a child you can end up with a Homelander or a Starlight while you probably want sth inbetween...)
You look like a fuckin’ majorette - Billy vs Iceman (I mean LambLighter)
I know Stormfront is an awful person, but Aya Cash is playing her so great that I just love watching Stormfront do evil shit. And although pairing her up with Homelander is wrong and dangerous on so many levels it’s also extremely compelling.
Love sausage, wow! Reminded me of the snake game on my old Nokia :joy:
Frenchie: “Don’t be so closed minded” :joy::joy::joy:
When Stormfront said "And the most important man in the room..." I totally thought she was gonna say "Hitler"
Boring, mediocre as the rest of the episodes in the season 2. The characters is running in circles. the only slowly developing character is Homelander. I can't care less for the main crew except maybe Karen or whatever the hell her name is. The main character is not a character at all. he just drags around with the rest of the crew and completely forget the events about from season 1.
Aww, I knew they would bond over Hughie.
"This is my boyfriend Hughie and this is his boyfriend Butcher" - Starlight at some point probably
Very good episode but the reveal at the end was kinda stupid. Why does everything have to be about Nazis these days? Just seems so overdone.
But hey, maybe the source material wrote it like that, so I guess I can't really complain. I enjoyed it either way.
Each chapter is a surprise, it's a bloodbath, it's gore, laughter, all in the same cocktail. No doubt, this series is THE DICK xD
Wowww. This single episode took the entire series to a whole ‘nother level. The point of it all is finally coming into view and the stakes are high. Solid entry.
Man, I was way off with what I wrote in my comment for the previous episode having to do with Lamplighter. I thought he was in prison, and Stormfront was using leverage over him to get him to kill black people. When writing that, I knew that didn't quite make sense. But I thought it was because my theory was too extreme. And to be fair, I guess it was because of that, too. But the main reason was that Lamplighter wasn't in prison. I realized that, somewhat, after writing it. I had a feeling that it would turn out to be something like a psychiatric hospital.
And while I'm on that note, I found the explanation of what's going on at the Sage Grove Center to be very interesting. Those who have read the comics or even just a little bit of it probably know what I'm talking about. You probably noticed it, too. The writers of the show seem to be gradually building up to THAT happening. I doubt it'll happen in this season, though. Or maybe that will be the cliffhanger the finale will end on.
I'm talking about The Boys having superpowers because they're all injecting themselves with Compound V. Of course, all that will mean, since none of them were injected with it from birth, is that they'll have basic stuff like enhanced strength, durability, stamina, etc. None of it will be to the extent of The Seven and everyone else, and I don't think they had any specific powers, either. Basically, for them, it was like the equivalent of the Super Soldier Serum, which will certainly even out the odds for The Boys to be fighting The Seven and others, a lot more than being "ordinary."
Unless the writers are going to pull a fast one on us, The Boys should end up powering themselves up with some Compound V very soon. But, as I said, I don't think that will happen in this season. If they don't drag and stretch things out a lot, it should happen in the next season.
Yet another reference to the comics in this episode. I love it. That's the third reference in this season that I got. One of the most iconic and rememberable characters from the comics, Love Sausage. His introduction was way different than it was in the comics. I guess, given how the show has been, it wouldn't make sense for it to be similar. Right around where I left off reading the comics was when he was introduced, and The Boys were in Russia, I think.
Somewhere around there. I may be mixing up what was happening where I left off, but I remember him very clearly. Oddly enough, I don't quite remember that his superpower had to do with his sausage. You know, that he had eaten the Devil Fruit, Gomu Gomu no Mi. That's the gist of his superpower, I think. Part of me thought his Su(p)e name only had to do with his sausage being enormous. I guess I forgot about that other detail. I should get around to re-reading the comics from the beginning and reading it all the way to the end, this time.
Okay, that was a little ridiculous and contrived. You're telling me that a camera of one of the plane's passengers from the first season is still intact AND that it still works as well as it did? Furthermore, that whole scene with Queen Maeve and Elena was written in such a contrived way, as well ─ all to drive a wedge between both of them. Am I the only one who found both events to be ridiculous and contrived? Yeah, as far as the camera thing is concerned, I guess some cameras can be that durable, at least the one that it was, maybe. But I'm still calling that one out to be contrived. The other thing, with Queen Maeve and Elena, was absolutely contrived.
This whole thing with the Church of the Collective, The Deep, and now A-Train, is starting to reek of the writers being at a loss of what to do with both of them. A-Train's whole relevance was based around having been the one who ran through Robin, Hughie's girlfriend, for those who may have forgotten what her name was. And that didn't seem to go anywhere in the first season. Now, A-Train has done nothing and had no importance or relevance in this season.
And The Deep seems to fall into the same category of the writers seemingly being at a loss for what to do with. With him, though, at least he's been somewhat relevant, even if it's to be comic relief. I'm pretty sure that he was completely irrelevant in the comics; a joke, like in the show, but in a different way. But I don't think A-Train was. Yet the writers seem to be struggling with his character, too. I guess writing a fictional character from scratch with hardly any reference material to work with and then writing scenes to implement said character in is much harder than you'd think.
I'm calling it right now. I think Homelander no longer cares about Stormfront, and he's playing her at the end of the episode. I feel like he hates it so much when people lie to him that once you do, that's it. There's nothing you can do to change his mind. I don't know what happens to Stormfront in the comics, but in the show, I think Homelander is going to kill her.
I'm aware that there's a fight scene with Queen Maeve, Starlight, and Kimiko against her that hasn't happened yet. I'm also aware that Kimiko took out one of Stormfront's eyes in the comics, so I'm expecting that to happen in that upcoming fight scene or something similar. But I don't think she's going to be killed. But when she is, I think it'll be Homelander that does it.
Lastly, I'm very interested to know who Cindy is. Lamplighter, who has superpowers, and even though they may not be convenient enough, he still seemed wary and a little scared of her. She survived Stormfront's electricity, and it looks like she'll have an important role in the last two episodes, or maybe even the third season. And while that could be the only reason he seemed wary of her ─ because it looks as if she'll be relevant, and that there was nobody else that he seemed to be wary of, I feel like there could be more to it. If he wasn't wary of just her, I think the writers would've shown him to be wary of someone else, even if that person wouldn't be relevant.
I think this episode was the weakest of the season by far. I made the mistake of thinking things would start picking up with the last three episodes of the season. That didn't start happening in this episode, of course. Hopefully, the last two episodes will be better than this one was. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I sincerely hope the last two episodes are worthwhile.
So what I understood is that they are testing the compound V to give it out to white people! Cause I think all the test subjects were white and like MM asked what’s the end goal with injecting everyone? And since Stormfront is running the operation I guess the goal is to inject all the whities with the superior race agenda. And I thought Mr Edgar knew nothing about it and that’s why Raynor said it was coup from the inside (Liberty/Stormfront and the nazis) but he was the one who sent her those emails about the asylum...
There is plenty of interesting character development to go along with the gore in this one, and MM gets coldcocked along the way.
I love the friendship between the boys, especially between Butcher and Hughie. And Frenchie is just as awesome and cute as ever.
Ok, Homelander AND Stormfront? That's a fucking nightmare. We're done for.What a cliche though – the regular brown haired brown eyed nazi gal falling for the uh... blond blue eyed shit head. Ok.
Go with stormfront, it's worse than it looked
Seriously this is about white supremacy. WTF??? What’s up with Hollywood’s hard on for Nazi’s?
Great casting choice for Lamplighter. Love the nod to Pyro with the Zippo too. I miss it when those movies were good (1 and 2)
another fantastic episode, I can't wait to see how it all ends!!
Jealous Homelander is adorable.