FUCK !!! ... That was a disaster ...
Finally we could see Abigail and then see her die at the end. That was horrible.
I'm sorry even for Liv, she was a total mess, she did not knew what was really happening.
They were so happy at the beginning and did not know how this would end.
Man, this episode was amazing.
The only thing I expected to be more interesting was the red room and it was not that big of a deal.
The part when Hugh and Liv saw all the dead in the house was CRAZY!
Just one more episode, to solve more things.
Abigail was actually real? Huh. Unexpected. Was she the Dudley's daughter? Poor girl.
The Red Room was a disappointment... But at least Carla Gugino gave us quite a show throughout the whole episode.
[8.2/10] What stands out to me in this one is the real horror of a mother losing her grip on sanity, who fears what the world will do to her beautiful babies, and so decides to kill them to “preserve them” as they are now rather than let them grow into something sullied by what lies beyond her doorstep. To be honest, it’s a little much at time, knowing how these sorts of things really do happen, to the point that seeing it dramatized as a ghost story starts to feel crass.
But I can’t deny its effectiveness. Hats off to Carla Gugino, who absolutely sells the weakening grip on sanity of Olivia Crain. The way she drifts between being a loving mother, to a frightened caretaker, to a possessed creature is effortless and layered. It’s nice that, after so many episodes devoted to so many other characters, Olivia gets one all to herself, both because it helps us to understand her, and because it gives Gugino a chance to truly shine.
The obverse of that is the performance of the actress who played “Poppy”, the 1920s woman who Olivia hallucinates. I appreciate the creep factor of this fast-talking walk-in from His Girl Friday, but the performance was mannered to the point of cheese which took away a lot of the oopmh for me. There were still highlights, like the horror that swept in when she used the same rapid-fire patter to describe dreams of her own children’s deaths, but for the most part, it was a little too kitschy of an element to add to the broth of this episode.
Still, “Screaming Meemies” absolutely brought the disturbingness with Olivia’s interactions with her children. This is an episode that puts a lot of the pieces we’ve seen in prior episodes together, and witnessing her descent, her “pied piper to Jonestown” affect with her youngest children and their friend, and how close a call it is to the Crains having to confront the fact that their own mother tried to kill them, is truly horrifying.
It also manages to help explain Hugh’s actions up to this point. The kids think he killed Olivia, and the cops seem to as well, but it’s a lie he’s willing to bear, even if it means that his sons and daughters are raised by a relative, if it protects them from having to face the real truth about their mom. But he also doesn't come off like a saint here either, essentially furloughing his wife when she’s desperately asking him for help. It paints a complicated picture of these events and the dynamics within them, which I appreciate.
The hardship of what’s going on between Olivia and her young son and daughter is magnified and complicated by what we know happens to Nellie and Luke when they do grow up. To hear kids talk, in indirect but still potent terms, about depression and addiction that awaits them in their future, is really harrowing. To be frank, I think it’s the first thing in the show that’s really rattled me. And having Olivia wander into her adult children lying on that “silver table” or dead on the floor is disorienting and disturbing. The accuracy of Olivia’s image of that calls into question an “it’s all in their heads” explanation, which the show seems to shed a bit here, at least in-universe.
It’s also a little sudden and oblique, but I also appreciate the implication that Luke’s “imaginary friend” Abigail, who has old timey clothes, is in fact a real girl, and (presumably) the retro-dressed Mrs. Dudley’s daughter. That’s a twist with some punch, underscored by the horror of her being Olivia’s unwitting victim to the horrific tea party she holds while unhinged.
Overall, there’s some pieces of this one that drag, but it’s the scariest episode of the series so far, and one that puts a lot of the pieces of the puzzle together in a satisfying way, which counts for a lot.
Poor Abigail. Seems she must be the Dudleys' daughter, but I could've sworn Horace told Hugh that after their daughter was stillborn, they never had any other children? Maybe I've got that wrong.
Sometimes it's more than a bad dream. Creepiness, a death and some answers accompany Mom's descent into madness. "You guys go on without me." Indeed.
At last Olivia's version and what really happened.
That brings a lot of respect for Hugh. The decision to not tell what happened got him in trouble with the law, ended in having his children taken away from him, a lifetime estrangement from them, he went half mad with loneliness with constant visions of his dead wife... all to protect them. What was the alternative ? "Well your mother went completely mad, and she tried to kill you, and by the way she also murdered another child in front of you, that's what happened."
Incredible performance from Carla Gugino as Olivia gets crazier and crazier. Note that in the end the house did not really make her crazy, just plays and pushes on her fears and fantasies, as we can see right at the beginning: I wish we could just freeze them, keep em just like this forever, and in the end, that's all what everything is about, ever. She doesn't really care about getting the others, she just wants her two small child to never grow up. And this whole episode is about reinforcing this feeling.
Really powerful vision though, to play on this small desire and turn it into an obsession. That moment when she gets into this vision of the future and ends up in Shirley's basement, looking at Nell's dead body ! And Nell and Luke, basically describing the horrors of their future adult life, in children words, as if they were describing a bad dream. That was chilling.
Mrs Dudley makes things worse, pushing the same ideas on Olivia. They even hid their own daughter from the world, that nobody even knows she exists and would notice her death (assuming that's who Abigail is), that's already nuts.
On this point, weird that Abigail is real. Why would none of the others ever see her ? I seem to recall a scene where Luke spoke to her and we then could see she wasn't there.
And that scene too, Abigail poisoned, choking to death, while Olivia calmly explains that she's safe, she's gonna wake up, and urges her children to drink to, so nightmarish. Carla Gugino is perfect there, channeling at the same time the calmness as is the situation was normal, the urgency to convince them to drink, and the underlying madness.
Not too much a fan of the Poppy ghost. She's a bit much, and we already knew she was insane. And we know there are several others, so why don't we see more of them instead. They don't seem to be adversarial either. But maybe it was a bit late to introduce them.
Hugh wasn't lying when he said there was nothing inside the red room
I almost cried in that last part, the hidden meaning was amazing really, thumbs up for this show's editing.
On the other hand, do this quote remind you of anything?
Hold the door
It is Hodor from GoT, if you remember that episode where we all cried in :(
We are still in the sad streak :( Even the quote is sad :(
All are writing about how disappointing the red room was...I don't think so. There is an even bigger mystery about it now! How did she open it? Who did the children see behind it before? Why did they have to do the party there? More pieces are fitting together and you understand more and more, especially why Liv killed herself. But somehow there are many pieces missing, there is still a lot that needs to be told and that's why it hasn't reached its maximum yet...
There is a section of music used on this show that reminds me so much of 'The Last of Us'. It just amplifies that sadness even more for me.
This was an odd episode. The pieces fitting together even more. The red room being a 'room of requirement' of sorts? Nice way to tie it off along with the mum's POV. The house really got her good :(
Damn, I guess I should have expected that the second body would be Abigail but it was sadder than I had anticipated, especially with the rat poison. Awful way to go.
Poor Olivia, although we did find out that it's not about the house, but the people. It would seem not all of them are out to get the Crains, so maybe there's still hope for them to come out alive.
Where the final bits of the past slot into place in a haunting, unsettling, and heartbreaking way, held together by Gugino’s excellent performance.
10/10
All Gold
What a Phenomenal
penultimate episode,
I've been waiting for
the Mom centric episode
and it did not disappoint.
It was frickin awesome
Holy-Shit,
Mind-Blown.
This episode was
Off the charts Amazing
and it literally brought out
every emotion,
this was a tremendous
episode, definitely the
most emotional one
of the entire show
and quite possibly
the strongest and the
Best.
Everyone put in
Outstanding Performances
Banger after banger
after banger
It was the gift that
kept on giving
and the way it tied
all the seasons shenanigans
together was flawless,
It was a beautiful thing
to sit back
and watch it play out.
Special very Special
Do I even understand this show?
Now we know what the mother saw and what happened that night, preparing the season finale
I was expecting the twist because of all the clues handed out over the last few episodes yet I still wasn’t prepared for it. I feel so incredibly sad.
Those two last lines were so painfully obvious it almost ruined the episode. Do you need to spell out everything to the audience, writers?!
Wait. That's not how you make tea?
I'm glad to finally have seen Olivia Crain's perspective of things. The red room scene was dark as far as the tea party went, but also kind of disappointing with the built up hype of it being constantly locked with no key and mystery of what was in there. I was shocked to see Abigail was actually a real person, but looks like Mrs. Crain made sure to fix that.
I'm excited to watch the final episode and see where this goes.
Shout by AnonymousseBlockedParentSpoilers2018-10-22T20:25:52Z
Abigail dying messed me up, very sad ending I wasn't expecting her to be real.