I WONDER WHO THE JEDI COULD BE...?
Wow. Rosaria Dawson played a decent Ahsoka Tano. I really miss Ashley Eckstein's voice work, but this older Ahsoka did well nonetheless.
Also, Dave Filoni! Of course, he directed this. Ahsoka's from one of the biggest characters from the critically acclaimed animated TV series Star Wars: The Clone Wars, which he heavily worked on that elevated his name to the high regard it holds today.
I also liked that new planet, Corvus. It was just so dead, with all that dirt, green haze and leafless trees; mysterious and spooky. Also, the town that Mando enters is so menacing. The people who don't want to talk to him and the masked guards, with voice modulators reminiscent of the Death Troopers, made for such an ominous atmosphere.
I like how the only guy Mando talked to was the old Magistrate. They didn't need to tell us he was; they just showed him helping the townsfolk, instructing them and gets a set of robes put on him at the end. He also saved my boy's (Mando) life.
BABY YODA NAME DROP!!!
"Grogu"? that's Baby Yoda/the Child's name?! It's cute; I like it. I don't know if his name will reach most people, though. My friends might not believe me. I also liked his backstory and what Ahsoka decided to do with him. I mean it's obvious, given the way we've seen him around Mando, so her decision makes sense.
However, I'm confused as to why they call Ahsoka a Jedi. Didn't she leave the order? Didn't she get those white lightsabers to show she's not a Jedi (or Sith)? I thought she was in this grey area, that made her free from the Jedi and their dark past and burdens? The Star Wars wiki legit says she's a force-sensitive outcast (https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Force-Sensitive_Outcast#Ahsoka_Tano)
GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN NAME-DROP. LET'S GO!!!
In the end, it was a solid (non-filler) episode. We got more worldbuilding, homages to established Star Wars material, and a fun, action-adventure set on a desolate, The Lorax kind of planet.
TECHNICAL SCORE: 7/10
ENJOYMENT SCORE: 8/10
An episode for everyone that bitched about the lack of plot development.
I was struck by the similarities with Princess Mononoke. Then I read the Wikipedia entry on Ahsoka and found out that it was part of the inspiration for the character. An enjoyable episode.
Throughly enjoyable and entertaining...Rosario Dawson did a great job.
Not forgetting Diana Inasanto, daughter of Dan who's also a director, writer, martial artist, stuntwoman.
Then there is Michael Biehn whose played Kyle Reese, Commander Anderson and Cpl Hicks from three of my all time favourites movies.
Cant get enough of this show glad we had a longer episode.
May the FORCE be with you
This episode falters only because it's so clearly a backdoor pilot to other shows that are coming - in a lot of ways it suffers from what many of the Marvel films, another Disney property, try to do. It's so keen to set up numerous elements that it feels more like a tease of what is to come rather then telling a compelling narrative on it's own terms. I'm also not completely sold on Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka Tano either yet, though she admittedly isn't bad here and has the chance to really turn me around on her soon.
I can't lie to myself though, when those white lightsabers finally showed up in live action? Genuine goosebumps. Filoni's immensely improved direction is the key here, no longer the stilted, messy presentation it was last season. There is a mythic quality to this episode in how it is presented, and the cinematography is the best it has ever been on the show. And with more relevations about The Child and his backstory, the relationship between him and Din is finally at the forefront and I enjoy their chemistry a lot here. Plus Michael Biehn! Can't hate an episode with him in it.
One of the best episodes so far, oriental-style. Ahsona was done really good, and now we learn a little about what seems to happen in the end of the Star Wars Rebels.
Just give Dave Filoni free reign to write/produce whatever show or movie in the SW universe he wants. Mans a fucking genius.
Rosario Dawson crushed it as Ahsoka Tano - call me a fan of the character now. I'm still not sure Dave Filoni can direct live action as well as everyone else hopes, but boy can definitely produce and write well. Episode could have lost at least 5 minutes.
Name drops of Thrawn, hints to Anakin. Season 2 has done a great job with world building. I don't know where Season 2 is leading to and who else we may meet along the way or at the end. And that's exciting.
Also - I have no issues with the name of The Child. It's growing on me.
Baby Yoda/Baby Grogu is still damn cute, sue me.
[7.3/10] Let’s get the big thing out of the way first. This Ahsoka takes some getting used to, at least for folks who’ve seen her for ten seasons in various other television shows. She looks right. She moves right. She even does some traditionally awesome Ahsoka things.
But she doesn’t sound the same. Her mannerisms are different. And the result is that, for longtime fans at least, she doesn’t feel right. That’s on me, not on the show. Dave Filoni both wrote and directed this episode, so it’s not as though this is coming from an artist who doesn’t know the spirit of the character. Likewise, there’s differences in vocal tones and speech patterns between tons of characters in live action versus in animation, so this should be no different. But for me at least, it made it hard to connect with a familiar character in an unfamiliar guise. I imagine if we continued with Ahsoka in some form or fashion, that would dissipate as we get used to her in the role, but for now, it’s a little jarring.
That said, I like how Filoni and company use her here. For one thing, they make her a total badass. The sequences where she goes against the Magistrate’s various troops are pretty fantastic. In the opening sequence, she almost feels like a supernatural attacker in a horror film, emerging from the shadows to take out unsuspecting victims. Likewise, when she returns to lay siege to the compound, the way she darts in and out of view, taking out baddies, just like the loth-cat she uses as a distraction, makes her seem scary good at what she does.
In the same way, I liked the Lady Snowblood-esque duel between her and the Magistrate. The combination of Ahsoka’s white lightsabers vs. Morgan’s beskar spear in a temple-like setting was quite cool and artsy. My one complaint is that, as cool as the Wild West standoff between Mando and the Magistrate’s lieutenant was, particularly with the twist, they cut back and forth between the two scenes too often for my tastes. The editing interrupted the rhythm flow of the saber fight, which weakened what could have been an even cooler standoff.
That said, I do like how the show threads the needle on one of the trickier questions here which is, how do you not feel like the series is just stalling forever until Mando finds a Jedi versus come up with a good reason why the Jedi wouldn’t just take Baby Yoda from Mando and remove one half of the major draw for the show?
The answer, at least here, is intuitive. Baby Yoda has attachment, specifically to Mando as a surrogate father. Ahsoka herself has seen what strong force-sensitive individuals with attachments can become, “even the best of us,” so it makes sense that she would fear what The Child might become if she were to start training him now. She feels a lot like Yoda on Dagobah arguing with Obi Wan over whether to train Luke, which feels right.
I also like the scenes where she tests him. I’ve said before that one of my favorite modes on this show is just Mando as the dad to a curious toddler. There’s something very sweet about the way Ahsoka can’t get The Child to move the stone, but that Mando’s developed a connection and understanding with him, as father and son, to where he can get the li’l tridactyl to take the throttle knob from him. It’s even cuter how enthused and proud of the kid he clearly is after Baby Yoda does it. Ahsoka’s rejection of the training opportunity works as a subtle affirmation of the bond Din and Grogu have formed, and that’s really heartening, with hints that Ahsoka thinks being in Mando’s loving care is really what’s best for The Child and maybe even something she senses as what the kid really wants.
That’s the other thing -- there’s a lot of lore and teases in this episode! We learn Baby Yoda’s real name! (Grogu? Really?) We learn that he was trained in the Jedi temple, spirited away after the Clone Wars, and that he has a spate of darkness in his memory after that. We find out that Ahsoka is hunting Grand Admiral Thrawn. We see Morai the owl! We get a hint as to another Jedi temple to visit in the hopes of giving Grogu a spirit vision akin to Ezra’s! There’s a lot of added details here, some of which are intriguing or cool, some of which make me raise an eyebrow, but all of which are at least significant.
I also like the design of Corvus and the compound. There’s a plain sense of have and have nots, with oppression in between, without anyone having to say it. The family-friendly crucifixions along the way are a nice design touch that conveys the cruelty of the magistrate. And even just having Michael Biehn’s second-in-command mercenary guy in play helps add flavor to this one.
Overall, this episode failed to live up to my expectations for seeing Ahsoka in live action and for having one of, if not the, greatest character in all of Star Wars interacting with Mando. But the truth is that those expectations were likely impossibly high, and what we got here was still plenty good.
Ahsoka Tano (Rosario Dawson) and Michael Biehn (Terminator, Aliens, Tombstone) appearances. Need I say more ? Well I will lol.
This episode is more Star Wars like than any of the sequel movies. Too bad these writers weren’t involved.
I felt like watching a rock band legend when Ashoka appeared at the screen. What a good episode with such great warriors and actors.
Absolutely loved this week's planet design. All-around pretty immersive world-building that helps make that climatic fight so visually striking.
GROGU!!!!! but he'll forever be baby yoda!
And I missed the lightsabers, the universe holds well on its own without the force/jedis but it's a cool touch whenever we get glimpses of it!
I haven't got a clue what people are on about when they think Rosario didn't capture Ahsoka's mannerisms. Besides, Ahsoka is 45 by this point, I believe, of course her stance will have shifted over the years (as did Obi-Wan's notably). However, at the end it was clear Ahsoka was holding back anyway, since as soon as she went back to her natural grip, she won in about three seconds. Also, you really think Filoni would have signed off on this if he didn't think his creation was represented well?
In an unlikely teamup, Mando meets Ahsoka Tano who is a Jedi and gives him some background info on Grogu, which is the Child's name. Even if Baby Yoda now has a proper name, I don't think it's going to stick with people just yet. Baby Yoda still sounds good. Rosario Dawson is an excellent addition to the cast and her strong portrayal of a Star Wars figure made this episode very enjoyable to watch.
One of the most impactful and important episodes of ANY Star Wars television show. An absolute metric TON of introductions, re-introductions, references and jaw dropping names out of left field. Just awesome! Dave Filoni, bless you!
Usually I review the entire season and not individual episodes, but freaking Ashoka Tano!!
Come on! We find the kid's name, Grogu, and get a blast of the dark path and the sorrow that still haunts Ashoka regarding the clone wars and Skywalker's fall.
Besides it's a good plot, something Ashoka would really be doing and more building of Mando's personality.
Jedi are enemies of Mandalore, but they work together.
Great episode!
Grogu!
Grogu? Grogu!? What do you mean Grogu!? I refuse to call him anything else than Baby Yoda :zany_face:
A great mash-up of western and Samurai film tropes--much more effective than Westworld because it anchors itself strongly in the similarities of the styles and then allows the differences to arise during conflict.
Overall, I think I'm missing a lot of hype for this episode because I never watched The Clone Wars. I just don't have any attachment to Ahsoka yet.
When you get into your 40's lets see how agile you all are and lets see if your voice still sounds the same...give Ahsoka a break ..jeez :)
Great nod to the Samurai genre.
Having not seen clone wars I didn't know Ahsoka prior to this episode but I definitely like her! Rosario Dawson is always a pleasure to watch.
There was some genuine affection from the character towards the child (Grogu!) and who could blame her
What an incredible episode! The show just gets better and better. Seeing Ahsoka Tano in live-action Star Wars was the best thing ever and what The Clone Wars fans waited for a long time. We also learn a lot about the background of the Child and even his name. What an amazing show.
Grogu sounds just right. Best episode of the season so far in my estimation. Felt like it paid off the build up of the last four episodes though, and sets things up for a fantastic sprint to the end of the season.
Hello Ahsoka Tano!
It‘s a pleasure to see you again:star_struck::raised_hands_tone1:
«He’s formed a strong attachment to you. I cannot training him. His attachment to you makes him vulnerable to his fears. His anger. (…) I’ve seen what such feelings can do to a fully trained Jedi Knight. To the best of us. I will not start this child down the path».
«Ha sviluppato un forte attaccamento. Non lo posso addestrare. L’attaccamento per te lo rende vulnerabile alle sue paure. Alla sua rabbia. (…) Ho visto l’effetto di tale emozioni su un cavaliere Jedi addestrato. Il migliore di noi. Non avvierò questo bambino a quel sentiero»
This has KUROSAWA written all over it's forehead! My favorite episode by far!!
Unfortunately I did indeed not like the live action version of Ahsoka Tano too much (her character seemed too different even though she's much older and a lot has changed since the clone wars). However, it was still cool to see a "Jedi" in this show and to learn more about Ahsoka's story. And the subtle versions of Ahsoka's theme brought back nice memories :)
And duelling the Mandalorian is still a bad idea :D
Maintains the good level of season 1, well done, well told, good characters. Then you remember episodes 7, 8 and 9 of Star wars again and you wonder why they didn't do it like that and not the shit they did?
Just watching clips was enough to confirm my fears of how awful the makeup was. And the acting. Dear God, the acting. And the sets/effects/compositing/cinematography... It all looked like a British student film from 20 years ago. Please. Just stop trying to make things in live action that require experienced directors, with expensive sets, and Avatar/Prequel level alien CG composite characters with substandard makeup and posthetics and training wheels directors.
Play within the confines of your budget/shooting environment/timeline. Now you've ruined the live action introduction of a beloved character with bad directing, immersion breaking effects, terrible secondary characters in a clearly rushed and mishandled storytelling and shooting schedule.
Please. Stop.
Good story but the head aparatus' took away from the performance. It didn't fit with the age of Ashoka played by Dawson. I know it's nitpick but what if the admiral shows up with a buzz cut or waves. Also, one of the appliances didn't fit as well as the others. Nitpick I know, but it's not like Disney doesn't have access to some of the best resources out there.
I am not a fan of Rosario Dawson's Ashoka. For me the character moved in different way. Also she never corrected Mando that she is not a jedi. Ashoka from clone wars was more agile and her fighting stance was little different. They tried to do character good with double saber engage and others stuff, but was not good enough. In rebels she is more older, but it was still Ashoka. They tried to do some blend between young version of her from clone wars and the one from last episode of rebels. Just did not work for me. Don't get me wrong I love Ashoka Tano character and I love Rosario Dawson as actress.
Ahsoka? Thrawn? Tython? Consider this fan serviced.
"I keep it around for luck"
"That would be a first."
"I like firsts. Good or bad, they're always memorable."
This one episode was better than all the crappy ass Star Wars movie reboots. This show just keeps getting better. Maybe this staff should be in charge of making all future Star Wars movies.
Written and directed by Filoni. That's all you need to know.
For a week now I was staring at the title for this episode and I was bursting with anticipation. But somehow I don't feel as satisfied as I thought I would.
I may be a minority here but I think Dawson was not the best casting choice. I don't know if they ever considered Eckstein, after all she's mostly a voice actor, but I don't feel Ahsoka from Dawson. I further think it was a mistake to open with her as you pretty much spend your powder right there. The story was predictable and not much to go on. Would this episode not have been the premiere of live action Ahsoka I'd say the ratings were lower.
I still like the background story as we finaly learn about kiddo's past (now we can put a lot of internet theories to rest) and how strong and emotional the bond between him and Mando really is. And of course the next bombshell. Thrawn ! Although only mentioned in name. But it gives a hint about what Ahsoka was doing in the past I say. Now it's safe to assume that this character will also make his debut in the show.
Even with the personal negatives I have, this in no way diminishes the whole. I am still amazed what they do with the story and how they bring everything together. And it feels totally natural how everything falls into place. As if there could have never been another way to do this.
Now I'm looking forward to meet Thrawn.
9.5/10
Outstanding
After just finishing
Ahsoka's own D+ show
of the same name it was
Nice to see her pop up
in the Mandalorian and
I've only just realised that
Ahsoka D+ show picks
right up from the events of
this Show, it was great
how The Mandalorian
set up Ahsoka so smoothly.
Mandalorian gets a
weapon upgrade which
is awesome and Grogu
gets his ball yay.
Lovely episode, a much
more serious one this
time around and ultimately
it's set Mando and baby
Grogu on the next leg
of their adventure.
Almost perfect episode. That ending made no sense though.
"you're like a father to him... I can't train him"(right after saying she could)... Than a second after take him to the place where he will be trained. Wtf. The next episode kinda makes it feel more reasonable, but the way she explains, made no sense at all.
The episode had some great visuals, with the dark and evil city looking really atmospheric and the forest where the characters meet resembling Mirkwood under the dominion of Sauron (sans spiders which were in another episode). It was visually stunning and in spite of the fact that there was a battle in the episode, it was more introspective and focused on the baby.
The Ahsoka person whom the Star Wars fans talked so much on the forums appears in the episode, and she is an interesting character, rather likeable, courageous but also seems to have some maternal feelings towards the baby. It looks like she is a very skilled Jedi person, though I am not an expert since I am not well-versed in Star Wars, since she could defeat so many people including the big baddie woman who terrorised the whole town and apparently had an empire-related history.
The scenes when Ahsoka tries to train the baby are very enjoyable, it turns out they can both converse in thought and the baby tells her his life history. We also learn his name which is Grogu but I will continue to call him the baby. It turns out that he grew up in a Jedi temple but had to hide his abilities for years to escape capture. Communication in thought is good and well, but I wonder whether the baby would ever be able to use normal human language (even with Yodas' syntax problems) or would he continue to use baby's sounds? Is this something psychological in him because he had suffered some trauma? Ahsoka concludes that the baby has too much fear, anger and attachment to Mando in himself that she would not train him, even after Mando completes a side quest for her (she gives him the beskar spear though).
It looked a bit over-the-top as far as even Star Wars level realism goes for Mando and Ahsoka to duo the evil city with its small army of guards and the principal evil woman, especially as I was wondering during the fight whether Mando is still hiding the baby in his pocketses. He explains that he left the baby on the spaceship but I had some fears that maybe the Moff guy had caught up with them and kidnapped the baby since Mando leaves the ship open and they had installed the tracker (later when I was thinking about the previous episode, I remembered how they re-used the idea of a tracker in the Obi wan Kenobi show, it was a bit of lazy writing using the same plot device in two Star Wars shows) but they reunite happily, and Ahsoka repeats her decision not to train the baby, but invents a test the baby can take to check his Jedi abilities and find other Jedi as well). I found her quite likeable (is it only me or was she almost flirting with Mando in some scenes?) but on the whole it is good that she declined the training as Mando and the baby can stay together (and Mando was very sad when he though he was going to part with the baby very soon), I hope until the end of the seasons or better yet for all seasons to come (I've read that the third season is in store in the future?).
Why does every planet have to be a shithole? Remember Coruscant? Naboo? Stop this, it’s bleak and uninspired.
Best episode of the series so far, hands down. Most beautifully shot, too.
Rosario Dawson killed it! She more bad-ass than Rey and all the sequels anytime!
Star Wars fans : this was amazing! So much detail and lore! Also Grogu!
Casual viewer (me) : looks gorgeous, great music, but poor script and really, really dull. Also Grogu!
This is a solid and thoroughly entertaining episode, but I guess I was greedy and wanted even more. My main problem here is that this isn't quite the Ahsoka that I was expecting to meet again, but I trust Filoni to know more about such things than I do. Meanwhile, the stuff between the Mandalorian and Grogu is once again terrific, and it was nice to see Kyle Reese again...even if he is a worm here.
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Easily the best episode of the series. Rosario killed it. Tone was amazing.