Ok, with this third season, Disney definitely turned an awesome (until mid second season) Star Wars spinoff spaghetti western style, into a ridiculous saga where The child plays the role of Tweety in Silvester the cat. What a shit.
Feels so surreal still to be seeing Bo Katan in this show and in such a big role, she definitely is the highlight of the episode as Din is pretty bland right now tbh
MUCH better than the previous episode.
Like all Hollywood productions today, the man need to be rescue by the powerful and empowered woman, what a cliche! In this episode the Mandalorian becomes a dummy, clumsy and stupid so Bo Katan can save him not once but twice and of course launch Bo Katan series I bet. Bad writing and worse delivery.
Amazing chapter. Photography 10. Every chapter better!
You have to go to a dangerous place to explore, for the first time, would you bring a kid with you?
Bo-Katan is great. Make her the lead.
Certainly better than last episode. Exciting action. Nice set design/FX. The kid's cuteness level is turned up to eleven. It's also nice to learn more about Mandalore and the origin story of the Mandalorians.
Story is progressing in this episode. The adventure is somewhat exciting. It's not super complex. But the show isn't known for its sophisticated story telling anyway. It's okay-ish.
What I don't understand: Mandalore seems to be an almost mythical place to the Mandalorians. After the bombing, the planet isn't exactly a bucolic and habitable planet anymore. I understand this. But the "mythical heart", the mines and the living waters, seems to be almost unscratched. And all it took to find out that you can still visit the place was a robot with a detector unit that confirmed that the place is actually not poisoned? Nobody tried this before? Nobody? Instead they believed the myth that all has been destroyed? Strange. Even finding the waters didn't seem to be an impossible task. You just walk in. That's it.
Absolutely loved this episode. Finally getting to Mandalore was really cool, and it felt very sci-fi. Mando teaching Grogu how to navigate the galaxy and the important skills needed to be a Mandalorian was great, and we even get to see that pay off later on when Grogu is able to use what Mando taught him to get to Bo-Katan (who had some great sequences in here also). Just expanding on the lore of Mandalore and the Mandalorians is so interesting and I'm really glad that seems to be the direction they're taking this season.
All that hassle for droid to test the atmosphere and then just pressurized his helmet and walked around anyway. Surely could have done that in the first place and had a gadget to test the air. We even have them now.
Meh. Seemed like a filler episode to me. Still much better than Boba Fett.
[7.7/10] Let’s start with the obvious here. You couldn't fucking see for a third of this episode. I get wanting to create a sense that the titular Mines of Mandalore are an abandoned, descreated space, and I also get wanting to lean into the theme of fear by making it difficult to discern what’s lurking around the corner. There’s a purpose to the darkness here. It isn’t just random.
But you can also go too far, to the point that the audience can't see what’s going on. There were so many fight scenes, so many intense bits of skulking through the caves, where I may as well have been looking at the floor for how much I could make out of what was on the screen. This has been a problem in prestige genre television going back to Game of Thrones, and it’s increasingly frustrating as a known problem. Light these damn sequences to where we can see them
If you can set that aside, this is a very cool episode. Once again, Amy Sedaris steals the show as Peli Motto, the Mos Espa fixit tech. I can't get enough of the way she fleeces a Rodian, or double-deals via the Jawas, or talks Mando into taking a scaredy cat astromech droid (the same one Luke rejected in A New Hope?). I just get a giant kick out of her character, and even seeing her bond with Grogu a little more is adorable. I don’t want them to overdo it, but she’s such a welcome part of this, and that's a hell of a way to get this one started.
There is also something powerful about the Mandalorian going to Mandalore for the first time. My wife asked me why he brought Grogu along, and it’s a legitimate question, but one I think ahs an answer in the show. Mando is raising Grogu to be a Mandalorian. Yes, this is dangerous, and he should probably have left Baby Yoda in the care of Peli Motto. But as we’ve had glimpses of, Mando himself had a pretty intense upbringing, and so teaching him to navigate for himself, to face his fears, is part of Din Djarin’s parenting style in some way.
Grogu has a good little arc there. Mando wants to teach him how to navigate, “so that you’ll never be lost.” And when Mando is incapacitated, Grogu is able to get back to Bo Katan with the help of Chekov's astromech. Grogu seems terrified to be on the decimated Mandalore, worrying for R5 and only proceeding gingerly with his dad through the mines. But again, when push comes to shove, he musters his courage (with a little nudge from new surrogate mom Bo Katan) to soldier on and find his father. This is, in many ways, an episode about the childhoods of Din and Bo, and so balancing that with a tale of how to raise Grogu as Mandalorian with a few hurdles for the little guy to overcome, is a good construction for the episode.
The creature work in the mines is good too. I’ll admit, as a Star Trek fan, there’s something fun about Mando basically fighting a bunch of 1960s Gorn down there. The prospect of a flying lizard creature coming at you is good. And while the look of the Grievous-esque cyborg scavenger felt a little too Prequel-esque for my tastes, the design of it was positively creepy, which I appreciated.
The only problem is that I wasn’t really scared by any of this. There’s some unnerving moments in there where the scavenger is draining Din that make your blood run cold. But for a lot of the “skulking through darkness” material, it was either too black to see much, or too standard issue Star Wars spelunking to really evoke the mood of fear the show was going for.
That said, I love where the episode goes in its second half. There’s always something a little gutsy when The Mandalorian proceeds without, well, the Mandalorian. Focusing on Grogu needing to enlist help to rescue his dad, rather than Mando being an unstoppable badass who works his way out of any situation, is a nice change of pace.
Plus holy hell Bo Katan is so cool! I’m an easy mark, because I both enjoy the character from her appearances across the animated corner of the Star Wars universe, and because I’m a big fan of Katee Sackhoff as Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica. Nonetheless, it’s nice to see Bo Katan getting to be the Mandalorian badass for half an episode. Watching her fend off the lizard people in the caves, give Grogu an equal amount of instruction and guidance, and even wield the darksaber again is a total thrill.
But I also like the contrast between her and Mando once she rescues him. He is awed to be in the Mines of Mandalore. This is the home he never got to see, so it reached almost mythical significance for him while in the diaspora. He is a true believer of the creed. It’s directed his life and he fully accepts that the only way for him to cleanse himself is to find these mythic waters. This is a holy place, and a sacred quest to him.
It’s different for Bo Katan though. She lived here, so now all she sees is the remnants of a great society that crumbled due to infighting and succumbing to an outside force. She never believed in the songs and stories, and only sees the fabled living waters as the place she was expected to perform the usual rituals by her father, for the sake of keeping up appearances. She is disillusioned, both with the Mandalorians and the creed, and so has rejected much of the awe and wonder that still consume Din Djarin.
I love how the episode turns that on its head. The show telegraphed the appearance of the mythosaur in both the “Previously On” and the plaque-reading. But it’s still cool to see a skeptic like Bo Katan dive into the living waters whose history she decried as fables dive in to rescue her ally, only to catch a glimpse of the creature whose very name suggested it was merely part of some fairytale. If these two can work together, there’s hope to reunite the Mandalorians and start their people anew, and finding a common ground and a common history to believe in is a good first step. (Even if, hey, the whole “never take off your helmet” thing is still a bit excessive.)
My only big complaint is that, again, for such a cool episode, I truly wish I could have been able to actually see more of it.
Great episode, very high on adventure and action. Pascal and Sackhoff have great chemistry and Bo-Katan really took the spotlight for me. Fun seeing Arfive!
My god, the art during the end credits is so damn good.
The last ten minutes of this episide were probably the best parts of the season so far. Not impressed with what we've gotten (pacing and writing wise) but I've been looking forward to getting more info on Mandalore for a while now, so hopefully it delivers.
okay, okay, listen to me.I LOVE BO KATAN.thank you for listening.
Now we’ve properly started
PS Boko :heart_eyes::heart_eyes::heart_eyes:
They didn't really revert the Starfighter back, did they? ... I mean yes the idea was stupid and looked ugly but they should have thought of that before and shouldn't have gone with the second cockpit from the beginning but this makes that decision so much worse.Aside from that the episode was visually stunning and Bo-Katans fight was pure eyecandy. (Speaking of Bo-Katan: I like the season 3 design a lot better. It fits better with the Clone Wars look)But whatever was that strange Cyborg and why would it want to create something from Mandalorian blood? That seemed a bit too random for now.
okay this one was kinda cool especially the ending with mythosaurus next episode will be interesting. And way better thanlast episode lets say.
Well, that was a big improvement on episode one. Loved it!
Visiting Mandalore was cool and I always enjoy seeing Kate as Bo Katan. I also liked to see Grogu getting more to do then just beeing cute.
But, again, there was little content aside from the final minutes. Before that we get to fight monsters multiple times and have to deal with a frightened droid (which I don't think was funny). And I think at this point they are overdoing Amy Sedaris anyway.
The potential of the show is still there but having in mind what the first two season did it's still far behind at this point. Now, the final scene was great and I'm looking forward to see what comes next.
6/10FairMando definitely needs some kind oftraining to use theDark Saber, plus he got straight shown up in his own show.What's with Mando in this episode, hespent all of it getting his ass handed to him,Being captured andoh yeah drowning.So Grogu can hold afire wall back, suspenda beast In mid air butcan't break a lock on acage. This was my least favourite episode things were way tosloppy and the timing onevents was way off.If the rumours are trueand they want to shoehorn Bo-Katan in as the lead tothis Show over Mandoespecially with Pedro want to be less involved in this show and only doingvoice work now as he's not actually in the suit,If they do move forward withmore Bo-Katan then I'll see myself out because that's not what I signed up for with thisshow.
very like these hope next one
Some really creepy character designs in the cavern.
This episode and many others in the series have no sense of time and pacing. Din tells Grogu to go get Bo Katan to help, so Grogu makes it out of the cave, flies to another planet, convinces her to join him, and returns, meanwhile time has progressed like 5 seconds in the room with the evil robot.
what happens in this chapter in other series need 4 chapters
While a bit better than last episode, this one still stinks. Mando is still shockingly incompetent and seems to make horrible decisions all of the time, both in and out of combat. Him getting captured almost immediately and then having to be saved by Bo-Katan is the biggest slap in the face, even if her action scenes were pretty cool. The darksaber continues to be stupid gimmicky bullcrap however, with Mando pulling it out mid fight even though he still can't use it, which begs the question of why the hell he would pull it out in a life or death situation.
The Grievous crab thing was sort of neat, although I don't really understand what it was or what it was trying to accomplish. Also, I'm getting really sick of that Tatooine lady, she was fine in season 1 but her shtick is getting old and every appearance feels less humorous and more infuriating. Hopefully her pawning off that astromech droid to Mando means we can just give up on the insanely stupid IG-11 idea. Baby Yoda running off to Bo-Katan was also really silly, I don't understand what this child can and cannot do. Bad episode, disappointed.
Another slog of an episode. Not at the giving up point yet, those 1st 2 seasons have earned a lot of points in my book - but if this continues on, I'm moving off it and getting closer to that Disney+ cancellation.
Better than the first episode... I'm not sure about Bo-Katan so far, but this was more focused, more serious than the season-opener. Mythosaur meets Mand'alor... let's see what happens next. Could have done without the droid, though.