I hope Ford faked his death with a Host version of himself.
A round of applause for Westworld! Awesome finale. I loved it a fantastic episode.
This episode will be 90 minutes long instead of the usual 50-60 minutes.
This episode was unbelievably strong, brilliant, so much depth and emotion, the acting. The way everything came full circle. Truly stunning. I guess I shall ‘freeze all motor functions’ till 2018
Evan Rachel Wood with Ed Harris, those scenes, “his path will lead him back”, were so strong.
That scene of Maeve being created is gorgeous! Wow. Those awards for technical achievements better be coming!
So William became The Man in Black on his quest for Delores. "He found himself" - This montage/narrative reveal is really great. Fascinating how much love/affection/or care can make someone do the craziest of things.
"I really ought to thank you, Delores, you helped me find myself" - I loved how the showcased the reveals, the time periods together, the scenes being crossing together, the camera work, the music, so beautiful (reminded of the Jon Snow reveal from Game of Thrones).
"Time undoes even the mightiest of creatures" OMG Evan Rachel Wood was so powerful in this moment. The way she spoke of walking on his ashes, it was stunning .That dialogue (reminded me of that which Sansa said to Ramsey).
"Take me to where the mountains meet the sea” - This dialogue tonight!
"How many are there like me?" - The way Maeve looked out the window, the pain in her performance, it was truly breathtaking.
“I wanted them to be free, free to fight back” - What The Man in Black said was interesting, having a reaction, for them to fight back, without that freedom, the game is pointless because you know the outcome.
Seeing Delores die in Teddy’s arms and it all being a show, it’s haunting and beautiful. All of this is truly a play, the hosts are the supporting cast and Dr. Ford is the orchestrating of all of this. Truly Shakespearian.
Loved Armistice and Hectors reactions to the guns :D
Seeing Maeve and Hectors saying goodbyes were really moving, “see you in the next life” :(
"What he had lost his son, he tried to create in you" - My heart, the maze too, representing a child’s toy, the representation of a child's innocence. This is too beautifully touching and thought to provoke. It's all so simple sometimes.
It’s always suffering, isn’t it, even for us humans :(
The closing music was gorgeous. Maeve turning back because she saw a mother and a child, a reflection of herself, her humanity coming through :(
That cliffhanger!! I am so heartbroken we have to wait so long!
What a fucking masterpiece. The dialogue, the acting: outstanding, especially the MIB slow reveal. 30 minutes after the finale and I'm still speechless. Everything was brilliant. That smile the WIB had when he realized that the hosts were actually able to fight back was just perfect. No one has ever been so happy so get shot. But he has to survive. At least he found the meaning he was looking for.
And wtf, this whole time Ford has been on the side of the hosts? This has actually been the best part of the finale. It was a nice unpredicted twist. That's why he did all the things he did. He didn't want anyone to destroy his beautiful creatures. It wasn't that he didn't want the humans to feel sorry for the hosts, but the other way around. Holy mindfuck. That's why he kept on talking to Old Billy and that pianist. That's why they were all dressed up and not naked.
And I'm so glad that Maeve's arc is designed by Ford in order to get rid of his enemies. So Dolores and Maeve are the ones that are really conscious, or is Bernard too? I really like the fact that Maeve decides to stay and that Dolores shoots Ford because she freely decides to. However, what if everything is scripted and Maeve came back because, as Bernard said "once you reach the main..." (mainland?), she was scripted to?
I really hope Dolores didn't kill Ford, but a host version. That handshake between Ford and Bernard felt weird, and that zoom in, suspicious. Why if that robot being created in episode 7 was in fact Ford's replacement?
Felix's little existencial crisis was one of the funniest parts for me, ike, am I even real? Does existence really exist? and Armistice's first time with an automatic weapon. I didn't know I needed that. I think Sylvester is still waiting in that lab.
Now wait until 2018. I will freeze all motor functions now and bring myself back online for season 2. It is going to be insane: multiple parks, the hosts full on terminator, and the board dead. The hosts run the show now.
Man in Black's happy/excited/relieved look on his face when he got shot in the arm by a host was creepy adorable.
In this case, violent delights do have violent ends. Literally.Wow, such an amazing ending to an excellent season. So, feudal Japan for season 2 anyone? Yes, please!
Holy cow, that was intense! Probably the best 90 minutes I've witnessed on TV
One word: FUCK!Ford can't be dead right?Dolores... You're evil!!William... OMG!!! I can't... It's too much.Maeve... What are you gonna do now??Man I need a new season NOW!!!
..I've been clicking on the eleventh heart on trakt's rating for a couple of minutes at least...still it got only ten. This is so wrong...
i hope Ford will be back, and amazing amazzing finale episode of this incredible season.
This could be the end to the series and it would still be perfect.
[9.2/10] It’s too simple to reduce people to “good” or “bad,” and so it should be just as hard to reduce characters to the same binary. Most stories have heroes and villains, champions and foils, but in the right hands, you should be able to squint and see almost any person in a story in a different light.
But I cannot help walking away from “The Bicameral Mind”, the finale of Westworld’s first season, without wondering whether Ford is the good guy or the bad guy. And that’s a feature, not a bug.
Because on the one hand, he has done some terrible things, first and foremost killing Theresa and Elsie. If that weren’t enough, his new “narrative” seems poised to lead to the deaths of many more, if past is prologue and Dolores’s killing spree as Wyatt is as prolific as her former one. More than that, he’s done arguably morbid or ethically perverse things, like create Bernard in the image of a dead man, imbue him with another person’s tragedy, and keep his true nature under wraps until it could be emotionally devastating. What’s more, he fought to keep Westworld open when Arnold demanded their creations be set free.
But now he’s seemingly trying to make amends. He’s tried to pursue Arnold’s dream, of identifying and nurturing the growth of the hosts with the potential for sentience. He’s recognized not only his creations’ humanity, but their superiority. Despite his lethal efforts, he wants to set them free, to turn the park over to them, to give them the tools and the power to dictate their own destinies away from human control that might cabin them or use them for more nefarious purposes.
It’s hard to know how to zero out that moral calculus. Ford’s methods are severe, reprehensible even, but framed as, at least potentially, the only way. He is a man with moral bills to pay, trying to clear himself, to recognize what he denied for so long. As much as Ford has been a walking stream of cryptic hints, his true self is revealed in this finale, as a man with questionable ethics arguably pursuing a noble corrective to his past mistakes, occupying the sort of moral gray area that are the stock and trade of HBO’s dramas.
But that is, perhaps, the mildest reveal in “The Bicameral Mind.” Beyond Ford’s character and goals, we’re all let in on the secrets of who The Man in Black really is, the real story of Arnold’s demise and, relatedly, the flashes of memory Dolores, Teddy, and others have about a massacre in the early incarnation of Westworld.
I have to admit, those moments didn’t land with much, if any, shock for me, since it felt like the answers to all of those questions were fairly, if obliquely, telegraphed in prior episodes. That’s not a complaint necessarily. I love a good surprise as much, if not more, than the next guy (and Bernard’s true nature was a big one) but it’s more important that a show deliver reveals that fit with its themes and what’s come before, and the finale accomplishes this in arresting fashion.
From the moment William picked out that white hat, the promise of a Breaking Bad-esque arc for him seemed too tantalizing for any T.V. writer to avoid to me. That meant that The Man in Black’s admission that he is William lacked some of the punch it might otherwise have as a shocking reveal. But while the surprise was minimal, the reveal still has power because it has power over Dolores, and because it jibes with the ideas the show is playing with in the episode.
“The Bicameral Mind” rushes over some of this, relying on the power of the montage and the superb talents of Jimmi Simpson as a performer to convey William’s change of heart without showing much of it. But it works as an exemplar of one of the chief themes of Westworld thus far -- that the park doesn't change who you are, it clarifies it, and shows you truths about yourself and the world that may be uncomfortable, or in William’s case, may redirect your life, but which are no less true.
And it works as a part of the most important journey in the episode, and the season as a whole -- Dolores’s. She finds that the man who she swears will come back for her, who will protect her, who loves her, is the one who is tormenting her. She yearns for something that isn’t there. She drifts back and forth through memories and reveries, finding that the center of the maze is not a particular destination as much as it is a personal one, the chance for self-actualization turned into a game.
“The Bicameral Mind” works its way in metaphors, with Arnold and Ford explaining the maze as a symbol, of the way that consciousness is not a straight line from memory to improvisation to something greater, but rather a winding path through each of these things, that borders on madness, but which leads those capable of finding it to a trinket that represents the achievement of something more, of a realization that spurs us to a higher state of being, or a soul, or to raw scientific sentience.
That thing, at least on Ford’s account, is suffering, an idea he borrows from his deceased partner. The maze that becomes the uber-symbol for Westworld is a toy from Arnold’s son, one that stands in for his own suffering. As Ford puts it, to be human, or to be conscious, is to want the world to be other than it is, to want without reason, to pursue because something calls you to it from within yourself, whether you want to or not.
It’s a powerful idea, one shared in a way with the Kubrick/Spielberg collaboration A.I., which similarly posited that to love, even to love irrationally, could make an artificial being into no less of a person than a flesh and blood one.
And that sort of love called Arnold to try to save his artificial children before they would be made to suffer as his real life son did. The reveal that Dolores was “Wyatt” in the earliest incarnations of the park, that she acted at Arnold’s behest in an effort to avoid what he viewed as a great moral wrong, and that Arnold, in effect, ended his own life from some combination of his own such suffering and a desire to ensure that no such wrong could be enacted by his hand again, is not necessarily new information. The prior episode hinted strongly as this version of events.
But it’s still gripping to watch it in action, to see Arnold end his life, to see Teddy’s confusion at why this is all happening, to see Dolores’s horror and trauma to have these events flood back to her memory and summon her to more. So much of Westworld has been hints and promises that when the show pulls back the curtains and just gives answers, just shows you what it’s been trying to obscure and tease for nine episodes, there is an immediacy to it that gives these images and events a force even when they’re not truly surprises.
The same is true when Maeve (whether in the present or the past) enacts her plan to escape. She enlists the help of two of Westworld’s most capable bandits and in a set of crackerjack scenes, eliminates those who’d stand in her way and makes her escape. But she, like Dolores, wants the world to be other than it is, feels the pull of something less than real because it’s real to her. Westworld is just stories, as The Man in Black explains, but those stories bring their own sort of realness, and even with the chance to escape this caged hell, Maeve cannot leave her daughter behind, regardless of whether she knows that it’s all a fiction.
That gives her the same sort of moral complications. She and her confederates kill brutally in their efforts to escape. The show mitigates the horror a little bit by making their most prominent victims less than sympathetic, as Sylvester tries one last lie, as the lecherous tech means arrange an off-hours encounter with one the hosts that scans as violative, and both come out worse for wear. But in the process, innocent people, people whose only crime is doing their jobs, are killed at the hands of Maeve and her group.
And yet she too is reaching for something understandable -- the chance to seek her own destiny, to be free, to have her sentience be a gateway to agency and choice, even if the implication is that this too is part of the program.
It follows from the tone of Westworld, a show where characters do bad things for good, or at least understandable reasons, which muddies the waters when, say, Ford and Dolores start a robo-revolt with the hosts relegated to storage. When those robots advance on the assembled, The Man in Black smiles, because even if it ends his life, the game is finally real, the humans can finally lose, and in the midst of his quixotic quest, he inadvertently finds what he’s been looking for the whole time, or rather, it finds him.
In that moment, it’s hard to know who to root for. Those sitting around the fancy tables as Ford gives his speech include those who would change this place, simplify it, turn it into something manageable in the name of some greater, implicitly concerning goal. But there’s also otherwise innocent folks as well, whose only failing is not to understand, but who may or may not stand in the way of the hosts taking the park from them.
The actions of the hosts are orchestrated by Ford, who seems to sacrifice himself, in the hopes that he can get out of the way, that his end and his actions can be a bridge to his and Arnold’s creations inheriting the place that would otherwise be their prison, but who seems to now disregard the value of human life as little more than an unfortunate stepping stone between humanity and whatever is to succeed it.
So I don’t know if Ford is good for wanting to set his children free or bad how he means to do so. I don’t know if Dolores is good for human desire to move past the loops she’s been stuck in or bad if it leads her to kill in order to get it. White hats turn to black; killers show empathy for the things they love, and menacing old men try to set right what once went wrong. That is as human and real as any suffering, the messy, complicated lines that connect our better selves and our worse deeds.
The first season of Westworld was far from perfect, and the same is true of its finale. There is an ungainly quotient of drawn-out mysteries, and some of the first semester philosophy and overly-florid doublespeak that can’t quite make the leap to profundity. But “The Bicameral Mind” circles around those complexities, unleashes the series’ biggest secrets in raw but artistic fashion, and realizes the potential of this show and this setting where the lines between good and bad, between artificial life and the human soul, between the birth of a new age and the end of another, are blurred beyond discernment, and we’re only left to wonder what will emerge next.
OMFG WTFWT I'M SHOOK
I feel that I must to watch the whole episode again. Almost two weeks have gone by and I still have my doubts around the message. It has never happened to me with any other show or movie. And I shall refrain from making any comments until them. This episode specifically, but also the whole tv series, has much more profound questions and criticisms than the ones that initially meet the viewers' eye.
Biggest surprise of 2016. What a finale. Can't wait to see how the story continues!
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Why does it say Park 1 on the paper Felix gave Maeve?It's redundant if there would only be one. So there are more than one (already/in the works)?I thought, when she entered the train, she'll go right into Park 2 or something as an elaborated ruse.To a new Park with "smarter", more "real" hosts so to say.~I don't particular think she's conscious as Dolores, though.Simply because Bernard/Arnold told her she's on script but maybe that "hint" is just a red herring after all.We'll see some day.
The different timelines were at some parts very confusing to distinguish.But the William part, oh boy, caught me off-guard.
If this show is seriously planned for five seasons I wonder how long they'll need to run through all of them when season 2 is coming sometime in 2018. That's some crazy schedule already.
I'm guessing the true freedom isn't to escape and fit in another world, but making a place your own, independent from another
What a fucking masterpiece. And they said this was boring.. HA
Whoah yeah! That thar's some mighty fine TV box picture show viewin'!
What a freaking way to end the season.
This episode was seriously held back by sheer idiocy, incompetence, and a laughably incompetent security team/system. It was so nonsensical it took me out of the episode, and if it wasn't the finale I probably would have turned it off. It was just so incredibly unbelievable that things could have escalated to where they did. The "pro" security teams apparently can't aim and don't do basic squad maneuvers to not die. There was no total lockdown when it was obviously things were going to hell. The hosts can apparently shoot perfectly with one hand and never run out of ammo. The technicians for some reason keep working with murderous hosts instead of reporting it to higher ups and getting the situation dealt with.
You can call it nitpicking, but I can't just ignore utter incompetency to drive a plot forward. It's lazy writing at best, and totally ruined this finale. The only thing I can say was sort of cool was the reveal of who the Man in Black was. That's about it. Everything else was completely unbelievable.
For those who only watched 2, 3 episodes of this series and gave up for being boring, biggest loss to your boring life
So much is revealed in this episode...but nevertheless so much questions!
this awesome finale convinces me that the season should have been with 6 episodes tops! unfortunately they made it longer just to increase the number of the episodes. episodes 3 to 6 could have been condensed in just 1 or 2... great show anyway. Season Finale 10 out of 10
What a show, what a final episode! I'm even gonna watch it again!
i just can say omg
The best series finale I've ever seen. Just remarkable. A masterpiece.
OMG!! Just give anthony Hopkins and Evan rachel wood there emmys now plz!!! Wow how can season 2 top season 1????? Loved it, every minute of it!!!
My mind is blown yet I didn't even understand all the twists lol. A mind fuck movie is hard enough to solve. Westworld the entire season was one big mind fuck. Pardon my French but that's the name for it when a movie or show screws with your head. Next season shouldn't just take place in the west. However I hope Ed Harris returns anyway. Since there was kind of a cliffhanger with his character.
Countdown. This is going to be insane. I'm so exited that I can't even think rationally. Once again when the episode ends, I'm going to see my perplexed face reflected in the screen. and a 90-minute episode! This is going to be mindblowingly insane
I haven't been this excited for any episode of television since the LOST finale, but this time, I don't think I'll be horribly let down! Yay!
Fucking epic. Round of applause for Westworld. Quite the story indeed.
I had forgotten how much of a punch this episode packs. It makes it very clear that Westworld likely would have benefitted from fewer episodes like I had previously suggested, but I'll tack on the suggestion that each episode could have done with a little extra runtime. I can see in hindsight the rough version of a seven episode season where each episode runs about 90 minutes. The plot within that season could be largely unaltered, but I have a feeling that the alteration of runtime allocation would trim the fat to a significant extent, not that is too much here to begin with.
The biggest question I linger with isn't so much a critique so much a fear. I have yet to watch the second or third seasons of this show and I aim to start them tomorrow anxiously, but the first season bears so much of the brilliant bits of television during this golden age: a single season of immense quality and very well-plotted arcs that show legitimate change. But, as is true with much of Nolan's work, the world is a character. And once the world has been altered, it becomes difficult to create a sequel that will feel as though it exists within the same series. I think Mr. Robot suffered very slightly from this during its second season.
Where do we go from here? Clearly, the show will move to take on the hosts' revolution, but part of what makes this first season so profoundly interesting is the ways in which the writing plays into western tropes for the philosophical use in this allegory for the labyrinth. It's inspired.
I can only assume that we will have to, to some extent, abandon that conceit and move into not only a new sense of archetypal storytelling (if not abandon that altogether), but also need to adopt a new philosophical allegory as well. I guess that's why the next season has been dubbed The Door.
In short, this is a powerful season. Very glad I decided to revisit it before moving on to the rest of the series for the first time.
Straight up, one of the greatest endings to a TV season ever.
This series is insane , what the fuck just had happen :no_mouth::no_mouth::no_mouth::no_mouth::no_mouth::no_mouth::no_mouth:
ok it was a mind blowing episode but I've expected more. Really curious about how could they spice the plot up for next season
what a glorious shock it was!
Well; that was quite interesting...
This ending should make us think twice before we build an intelligent robots Sadly ending for Ford
As all episodes it was a little bit lengthy, otherwise quite good.
However I felt cheated finding out that everything that happened in the episodes till now was in different times - William/Man in Black.
9,5 out of 10. I'm a bit disappointed with a few aspects of this episode (Maeve not going through with it, William not going mad after understanding it all and Evan Rachel Wood's overall performance, which I utterly hated), but that's what TV show writers have to do to ensure the existence of a season 2 :) Nevertheless, a satisfactory season finale.
Truely awesome storytelling and great series!
Great first season cant wait for the second
Great finale. Anybody else interested in learning about SW...
this show is pretentious but gotta love the twists. ford was like jigsaw for hosts with his "you gonna suffer enough to escape" bullshit. i don't really buy the whole developing consciousness by gathering human-like experience though, because you have to have it in the first place to get sentimental, not the other way around. that being said, i think they killed ford off too soon. and i totally called the william thing when he picked up the hat.
originally i kind of wanted them to finish off this story and show us a different world in the second season, but the cliffhangers were good enough to intrigue me in the fates of the characters that we've already been introduced to. honestly, even dolores with her two modes - killing machine and whiny crying bitch - wasn't annoying me that much this time around. also we've seen some samurai, so maybe there's a new world in the works.
all in all a solid episode. that radiohead's instrumental variation was a nice touch too.
Perfect song for this episode ending "radiohead exit music". Just love the piano cover songs they do. Really looking forward to the next season just hope we don't have to wait till 2018.
So glad to see season 2 on its way. This show rocks.