"If you go looking for the truth, get the whole thing.It's like a good fuckHalf is worse than none at all."
Best quote ever
Typical for HBO - You'll be so shocked at the end of the episode that you'll see your own speechless expression in the reflection of your monitor during the end credits.
That hour felt like 5 minutes! Bernard is Arnold. Dolores killed him. Ford made Bernard kill himself. Holy mindfuck! my head just exploded. Sorry, bad choice of words. And the MIB being a board member. He knew it all.
The first scene was just perfect. "Bernard, bring yourself back online", Maeve. I was on the edge of my seat.
Every theory has been confirmed, except for the William = MIB, which can also be said to be. He did say he was going to find Dolores and then the MIB appeared in the church, right after Dolores said "William?"
I knew Bernard was Arnold. I knew it. There was something about him that didn't add, especially that scene with Abernathy in ep 1. Those scenes with Bernarnold and Ford were perfect. I knew since the beginning Ford was just messing with him. He didn't even twitched when he saw the gun. And at the end, he even seemed concerned with Bernard, like he didn't want that to happen. I agree with Bernard, what kind of psychopath would give such a tragic backstory to a host? Well, our lovely Hannibal Lecter.
And the father of the year award goes to... Bernard! For his astonishing quote "Charlie,you're a lie". And Dolores killing Arnold, holy cow. Didn't see that one coming, although I get that's the reason why Ford told her that they weren't friends.
When they introduced the character of William I though that would be me, that he was just a regular guy with his regular problems but he's lost his shit. The only thing clear is that you don't call him Billy. He might slaughter you.
I think Ford's narrative involves Maeve, so that he can prove that the hosts are too dangerous to be used outside the park.
God glorious Anthony Hopkins: "Do you know what happened to the Nearthentals? We ate them". My greatest fear is to wake up and find myself in that creepy basement with Ford monologuing at me.
One thing I found pretty odd was Stubbs being attacked. Was it Ford? Create, kill, replace, repeat.
Get hyped for the 90-minute mindfuck of a finale!!!
reddit did it again
"I've told you, Bernard, never place your trust in us. We're only human. Inevitably, we'll only disappoint you. Goodbye my friend."
Each episode just gets better and better. This is by far the best first season of any series I have watched up until now. I wish there were more episodes this season, only just one left...
The photo of logan sister is the same one abernaty found in the field.
I wonder what sort of relation logan have with this world
O_o <- this is my face. Totally mind blowing, Top-notch series. I was expecting some reference to FutureWorld, when It was revealed the Bernard be a duplicate of Arnold (who watched that movie, got the reference). What blown my mind even more it is the fact that Dolores murdered Arnold in the first place. When she entered the underground that scene reminded me the movie "WestWorld" after the droids killed all in the park. 10/10 Just PERFECT!!!!!
Always pay attention to the tiny little details, because it turns out, it's was the biggest clue of all. I had a feeling that Bernard was more than just a host, but damn! So that's why they didn't show us that photograph!
[7.9/10] One of the big mysteries that remained in Westworld was who Arnold is. Given the twists and turns of the show, it was entirely possible that Arnold didn’t really exist and Ford had made him up entirely, or that Arnold was Ford’s benevolent but Tyler Durden-esque alter ego, or that Arnold was actually some kind of crazy free-floating A.I. that was Ford’s first robotic creation and digital assistant.
Instead, it’s Bernard, or rather, Bernard is him, or to be even more precise, Bernard is a robotic recreation of Arnold who did not, until now, know what or who he was.
I don’t know how I feel about that reveal. On the one hand, it feels a little pat, as Maeve might put it. There’s something a little too “shocking twist” about the idea that “the guy everyone’s been looking for and talking about was under their nose the whole time!” There’s something that strains some credulity about the fact that Ford built a robotic replica of his former business partner and no one batted an eye, regardless of how much time may have passed.
I like a bit of clockwork in my mysteries, the sense that everything is connected and tied to a particular point, but there’s something that feels a little too easy, a little too dramatic, in this choice.
And yet, I like the poetry of it, and I like the presentation of it. Westworld can certainly become lost in a web of its own nebulous symbolism in a way that makes me roll my eyes. But there’s genuine ambition here. The frame story, such as it is, of Bernard unlocking his memories so that he can fully self-actualize, confront his real past, and know the whole truth, as Maeve suggests, gives “The Well-Tempered Clavier” a unique storytelling opportunity.
It lets the episode jump back and forth in time, not just to help illuminate who Bernard really is, but to blend his story with those of Dolores and Maeve, showing those points where the paths intersect that put everyone’s journeys into relief. The way the episode is edited, slipping the glimpses of past, present, and future next to one another, both allows the audience to share in the hosts’ disorientation, but also let’s the show find meaning in the juxtapositions.
We see that in particular in the haunting imagery of Dolores’s journey into what we can only assume is the heart of the maze. The scene of her approaching the church is framed to where the tower looms over her, seemingly representing the power of an institution, of those who might declare themselves gods, making her seem small by comparison. She wanders through pews of others like her muttering in madness. And she descends into some version of the original laboratory, drifting between it as it was then and as it is now, with the implication that she’s done this before, that her efforts to break out just send her into a different, but still familiar loop.
This is Westworld using the tools in its cinematic toolbox to create the meaning in these events, to evoke the mood using something beyond just grand speeches or threats exchanged between characters.
But the other big reveal of the episode comes in one of those conversations, when some combination of Arnold in the past and Dolores’s memory reveals that Arnold died at Dolores’s hand. That lends itself to the poetry of the episode, where a man who seemed to believe in pushing his creations beyonds their limitations may have been felled by one who exceeded them.
I’m not convinced, however, that Arnold’s death was a murder. This episode also gives us flashbacks of Teddy’s murders at the behest of Wyatt, the central figure in the new story crafted by Ford. We know that Ford likes to put some truth into his heart of his stories, and it’s not a far leap to surmise that Wyatt is his stand-in for Arnold.
So when we see Wyatt gunning down everyone and everything in sight in what appears to be the original site of Westworld, he may very well represent Arnold, either literally or figuratively attempting to destroy what he created. The little we see in flashbacks and through Ford suggest friction between the two partners, particularly as regards whether and what to do with the hosts who’ve gained sentience.
Some may have joined Wyatt’s gang, the group of seemingly self-aware hosts who confront The Man in Black. Some of it may be connected to William, whose response to Logan’s trespasses here -- a brutal massacre of his robotic running buddies -- looks like something out of Wyatt’s playbook.
But maybe Arnold saw where Ford’s thinking was going. Maybe he grew horrified at the idea of sentient beings under someone else’s control, trotted out for amusement or torture, and couldn’t live with the idea of the park continuing as it has. Maybe he tried to erase all of the progress they’d made and, when it was finished, tried to have himself “erased” as well, because he thought Ford couldn’t recreate it all without him, not the “most elegant” parts of it at least.
And maybe that’s why, beyond pure sentiment, Ford tried to recreate his partner, so that he and Bernard could achieve through Ford’s forced acquiescence what he and Arnold could not due to Arnold’s resistance.
This is all rank speculation on my part, but whether these extrapolations are true or not, the episode delivers on the existential panic at the end of its hosts quests that comes from the truth about Arnold’s history. For Dolores, it means that she’s been chasing a ghost, that the voices in her head telling her to follow, to find something more, blended with haunting memories of the past, have led her to a dead end. The quest she is on, to fulfill that aching need inside of her, cannot be fulfilled, at least not like this, because she’s tried it before and come up empty.
Bernard’s quest is less tactile, more cerebral, but it ends similarly. By probing his own memories, memories which the hosts cannot only recall but interact with, he hopes to find answers, to remember the person who might be able to give him some. Instead, he only finds reminders of past grisly deeds forced to be performed, and ultimately, himself, after a fashion. There are few things more frightening than chasing after the person you think can give you the guidance and direction you need, only to find that the only person there is yourself.
That realization adds menace to Ford’s salutations, as the characters cracks into more raw villainy. The curtain has fallen. Another reveal has been revealed. And neither Bernard nor Dolores, nor even Ford, can remain the same in our eyes after what happens.
Westworld, in its first season at least, is a show founded on establishing those mysteries and then answering them with maximum shock. And when “The Well-Tempered Clavier” is straining to shock me, to surprise me, it feels like hollow and pulp. But when it’s mining those reveals for something deeper, for the existential dread of its characters, for the philosophical conflict between the animating angel and devil of this world, for the more personal experiences of its heroes and villains, it feels like something realizing the potential, however fleetingly, of the show’s fertile, fascinating premise.
Easily the best of the season so far. No wasted words or scenes. Despite being 99% sure about most of the "twists" in this show (thank you, internet hive-mind), this show is so complex that it doesn't matter. There are enough themes, arcs, and philosophy to leave you thinking for weeks after the show ends. THAT is good TV.
Wow, that episode was insane! Each character in this show is outstanding and very sad next week is the finale! Going to have to wait so long for season 2 :(
"If you go looking for the truth, make sure you get the whole thing, half is worse than none at all." - Maeve
They should play The Terminator theme on the saloon piano whenever Maeve is onscreen :D
Dr. Robert Ford: "Do you know what happened to the neanderthals, Bernard? We ate them."
Dr. Robert Ford: "Never place your trust in us. We're only human. Inevitably we will disappoint you."
Poor Teddy, just gets stabbed by everyone in the park
I would love to figure out why the digital-download version I have of this episode is 5 minutes shorter than what Trakt says, and 4 minutes shorter than what Amazon has available for streaming… Am I missing a scene?
What the fuck. William went from being a meme to my spirit animal.
What an intense episode. I've liked the series from the beginning, but I felt lost at some points, which was kind of annoying, but now I see it was supposed to be like that. So many answers given, in such a breathtaking way...
I thought I knew where they were going with it last episode. My God, was I wrong... I'm so confused right now
absolute quality show on with the finale now
Rage against humans!
This episode was brilliant.
whaaaat Bernard is Arnold. and Dolores killed him. i am sooo OUT OF THIS. this show is beyond imagination, if this show doesn't replace GOT as the top TV serie then i don't know what will!!
Wow, it seems the security of westworld is very low or somehow Maeve learnt the knowledge of hacking. Sure, no details has been revealed about how the voice command works, but given the Ford family hosts only respond to Ford's command, I believed the system involves recognition of different people voice and only respond for authenticated personnel. I believed Bernard should be set to only respond to Ford command too, so it seems too easy for Maeve to get the super high permission/rank (as high as Ford) and can even control/command Bernard!
This will sound crazy for most people, but I still think the man in black is a host. Think about it, Ford made Bernard kill Teresa because she was threatening his position as the supreme ruler of the park. But strangely, he doesn't try anything against Charlotte who is undoubtedly a bigger threat. That maybe because he's secretly controlling Charlotte's boss who happens to be... the man in black.
I do believe the man in black is old William. His back story about how his wife killed herself because she knew he was evil is true. But I think after that William went back to the park and threatened Ford to reveal everything about Arnold's death. William never knew that the "bug" that led Dolores to kill Arnold could be replicated at will by Ford. The man in black we know still doesn't see any of the hosts as a threat for his life.
So Ford had old William killed and easily replaced him by a realistic copy as he had plenty of personal data about him as William was a returning visitor.
That's why when the man in black threatened Ford's life directly, he wasn't afraid at all, knowing he had total control over everyone in the room, exactly like in the scene with Bernard and Clementine.
Also the sentient hosts keep telling the man in black "the maze isn't for you". Everyone thinks that's because he's human. But what if the sentient hosts could perceive that the man in black is a host on his loop, and not created by Arnold.
So is Ed Harris a robot or a guest ? I thought he was a robot since the first episode but am confused now lol.
Ford:
"The piano doesn't kill the player if it doesn't like the music"
this show is pretentious as hell, the characters often act purposefully obtuse for the sake of plot development, the combining of sexual and violent behavior's getting a tad old, and we all know who's the smartest from the nolan bros, but for what the show is, this was a great episode. was that a backward compliment?.. oh well.
Shout by konvarBlockedParent2016-11-28T05:56:59Z
William: Please Logan, even though I'm engaged to your sister, please help me take my sex robot home with me.