Bogex

"I understand that I hurt you." - Sooo... still no apology? And Eric wants this guy more than Rahim? Ughhh... Don't want to be a d*ck, but I really hope that Eric will experience Adam not being able to catch him. The only moment I almost teared up was when I saw Rahim crying. I really like his character, it's a shame that Eric just had to choose Adam anyway. I mean, of course, feelings should come first (most of the time) if you choose a partner, but I just don't get how can he fall for and choose his dumb ex-bully over a sweet, honest and smart guy. This plotline was a huge disappointment.

Viv and Jackson, on the other hand, were adorable! They were so cute hugging and holding hands while walking! Even if just as friends (for now, hihi).

Oh, how much I knew that Isaac would delete Otis' voice message... I get that he wants Maeve for himself, but using dirty tricks to achieve that because he knows he'll lose the fair way... Back to 100% Team Otis.

I didn't really like Erin from the start, it was pretty obvious that she was gonna start using again, especially when she was caught in her lie about her being fired. I really pitied Maeve for having to deal with a "mother" like this - after being neglected and abandoned by her in her childhood, she comes back, makes Maeve believe that she's changed, then ruins her life again by starting the vicious cycle from the beginning. And she dares to say she'll never forgive her own child for reporting her for the sake of saving Elsie from what her other children had gone through. (Oof, this sounded a lot less difficult of a sentence in my head. xD)
Anyway, Maeve is a wonderful and brave human being. I just hope she won't date Isaac for too long in the next season before getting to know the truth about Otis' feelings (because I guess this will happen, too, if they went cliché with the "bad guy" topic regarding Eric).

OMG, I'm back in the game after a month, and a Thai BL series' first episode's first minute just threw shade at the BL scripts that contain sexual harassment and pass it on as romantic gestures??? HELL YES!! :muscle::heart_eyes:
Damn, I want to learn how to fiddle with a pen like that :joy:
I really hope that 'Bad Engineer' (the title of Gene's first BL) is also a shade thrown at all the cliché Thai BLs where the protagonists are studying as engineers :joy:

So I have a question for my fellow BL lovers. I've been googling Kaownah and Turbo because I didn't know who they were when those interviewers and fans spotted them. I thought it was a crossover of some kind when a couple of an existing BL series pops up in a new show as guest stars. But I couldn't find any existing shows where they were together. Like I saw that they're here as guests and on Oxygen as guests (I still remember that, lol), but not as characters, they are called by their real name. But even after looking them up, I couldn't find any source of their "origins", like did they get famous for being together on IG/Twitter or somewhere? They've been cast on a show together, but that will come out in the future, so how are they this well-known already?
Thanks in advance for anyone who can answer! :hugging:

Did I just witness another shade when they hinted at some BL writers being a pain in the ass to work with when adapting the novel into a series? :joy: Istg, I don't mind the usual cringe "funny" scenes, all this tea is making up for it! :laughing::tea:
I wonder why they brought up that casting an IRL gay person may cause problems. (Was it because of the drama between Mew and Art? :thinking:) I mean, sure, there's always a chance that a gay guy will fall in love with their also guy co-actor... but it's basically the same risk as in hetero series with a female and a male lead, so... :person_shrugging:

Ooh, I would've caught that girl too, ngl! :laughing:

Eh, really disliking the moving-in part, I hate that in any kind of story. If there's actually a legit reason why it would make sense, then I'm okay with it, but 99% of these kinda plots couldn't be applied to real life because let's face it - no one wants to move in with a basically random stranger (unless it's only about sharing the costs, but that would be a whole another story).

It's pretty weird that compared to how sh*tless scared/confused every party was at the big reveal (Pran, Pat, both their friend groups and the other like 15 people casually witnessing the scene), now every friend of Pat is okay with their relationship, no questions asked, and even Pran and Pat are immediately comfortable with being seen together now that the cat's out of the bag. And no, I don't mean that they should treat this as a big deal, it's just a really illogical storyline that they were hiding even their cat-and-mouse friendship from all of their friends and the university, yet now that everyone knows they're boyfriends, they don't seem to care about the "consequences" at all.

Pran's friends only accepting his relationship with Pan after the rugby win (where Pran didn't take part in) is... certainly an interesting plot choice.

That "gun" was literally pointing down. Like not even feet-down but actually away from both of them, on the ground. So how tf should we believe that Pat's abdomen got shot from that angle? I mean, apart from believing that a scenario like that would even exist in real life... a Thai uni guy carrying a gun with him and waving it around to intimidate some rugby guys who he lost a match to... :person_facepalming:

Ugh, these lame cliché plot "twists" are making the show a lot less enjoyable. Just once give us a Thai BL series which doesn't have any of the cliché plot twists...

That coconut-smelling action was... pretty disturbing, ngl. Like watching a serial killer's or stalker's perversion.
On the other hand, Bass and Oh's interactions are so cute. :heart_eyes: Now I really-really wish they'd end up together instead of Oh and Teh. Teh is controlling, not at all empathetic, he just wants to compete and be better than others. I bet that there will be a part in the series where he thinks of Bass as a rival just because Oh want to spend more time with him.

So Teh really doesn't see what both Tarn and Oh see? That he wakes up at 4AM for Oh, but not for Tarn? That he hates even the smell of coconuts, but one long sniff into Oh's hair which smells like coconut, and now he ate it and bathed with coconut-scented shower gel? That he sent Oh a "tell me when you're get home" message too? (Though this last one doesn't mean much, we say/message this to each other with my friend too, haha.)

That weird piano piece definitely suited how out of control Teh must've felt, lol. He literally stayed behind pondering why didn't Oh pick him as a roommate? A possessive guy instead of a sweet and caring boy? Hmmm... :thinking: (I know Oh only wanted to make Teh jealous, but still.) I can't say this enough: I really hope Oh will end up with Bass.

I'LL THROW CHAIRS. Oh actually made my precious Bass sad! :sob: I know the struggles of not being too assertive, that's why I can't believe Oh actually said "I'll invite Mod and the others too. The more, the merrier." when HIS LITERAL CRUSH ASKED HIM OUT. Well, I guess Bass isn't his crush anymore...

Okay, ngl, that beach scene was pretty good, so I got swayed... And since apparently Oh now doesn't feel anything towards Bass... But poor Bass... :sob:
Aaaaaand back to creepiness with that paper-smelling...

So uhm... After all this sexual tension in the episode's second half, you're not gonna give us anything? Like damn, Teh's actor leveled up quite a bit with these steamy interactions! (I'm still kinda OhBass, but I think I have to let that outcome go... :joy:)

Ookayy... So Sarawat stepped down from getting Tine to the hospital himself - good. But it didn't even cross his mind to ask Mil about which hospital is he taking Tine? Like a normal person?
And Tine... I understand that he's hurt, jealous or whatever - I would be too -, but not even giving Wat a chance to explain himself? Wat wasn't kissing Pam or anything, Tine literally only saw Pam hugging Wat (which wasn't mutual, either). Other than that, there's nothing. If Tine would've caught Wat cheating (even just saying something romantic to Pam), I would 100% understand him not wanting to hear about Wat again. But this wasn't the case. And I'm not only saying that because I know the cliché drama-at-the-last-episode part's cliché endgame. Wat has literally not been seen cheating on screen. Ever.

Sooo Tine is super mad at, disappointed by and hurt by Wat, but he sat down with Pam (somehow still believing that Wat loves her)? Excuse me, wtf?

Alright, I think when Wat was writing that song, he wasn't in bad terms with Tine, so why say that in the audio recording? And second... why even include that in the file when you can just say that to her in person? So that everytime she listens to it, she'll be reminded that Wat doesn't love her but loves Tine? Lol.

Ugh... Mil and Wat's brother's relationship is just so wrong. Like the latter literally accepted that Mil only chose him because Tine wasn't available? Dude...

So... no kiss whatsoever? Bruh...

I may not be an expert, but when one of my strings snapped a day before a competition, we only changed that string, not all of them. Why would you change all of them if they're in good condition? Especially right before a concert, you have to tune all of them literally every minute to sound good after you put them on. Why not just struggle with one string's constant tuning instead of all 6's? :person_facepalming: (And, as I thought, his strings were perfectly in tune through all that song. That's not how it works if you changed them just minutes before.)

But moving on... Omg, that song, Mafuyu's voice, the animation... so awesome! It was a really fragile moment when Mafuyu walked to Ue after the song and they went off-stage without a word. So pure. And finally a kiss! And Mafuyu admitted to himself (or Yuki) that he found a new love in Ue! Adorable.

Yuki's voice is really nice! It's a shame that this voice actor's character is dead...
Mafuyu thought some deep things regarding that date. No matter how much you enjoyed some moments in your life, you're gonna forget more and more details of it as time passes.

Not to downgrade Pharm's... feelings(?), but why was he so against Dean starting kissing and touching him (both in a "non-animal" way)? Like they kissed many times before, they held hands, they hugged, they slept together in a bed, so why get mad at Dean for trying to take a bigger step? (Again, it's totally Pharm's right to say no, I just don't understand it since Dean wasn't really violent or anything.)
[Oh, I just read that apparently in the novel it's actually explained that sometimes Korn takes over Dean, and somehow Pharm can recognize these moments, these "traits" as Korn's, that's why he pushed "Dean" (Korn) away. It actually makes a lot more sense like this. I'm sad that the series doesn't explain this at all.]
That part with the grandma clarifies this a little bit, but I'm still not sure if it's just Dean communicating Korn's thoughts or it's actually Korn talking (in the series, because now I know that it's Korn taking over sometimes in the novel, but idk about here).

Umm... Can someone tell me when did Win and Team get this close? Last I checked Win went bold with an obvious flirting, but that was it. And now Team just casually goes to sleep at Win's... at 1 AM. And apparently it's not the first time Team couldn't sleep. Ookaay...
Not that I'm against them, but see, this episode is full of rookie mistakes. Most of the people who watch these BLs don't read the novels they're based on. And instead of making either a remake of the novel or basing the series totally on it, Thais kinda mix these together and leave lots of parts out - making some scenes in the series random or too fast-paced. Thais reeeally need to work on this because the lack of logic in a relationship's development can ruin a story as much as the lack of good actors. :person_shrugging:

Thoughts while watching the movie:
- (Didn't take a look at the actors beforehand) First visible moment of the movie: "KANG HA-NEUL!" Omg, I love this actor so much.
- I almost never even flinch at jumpscares, only really rarely (thanks to Pewdiepie for making me almost immune xD), but that woman got me at the kinda beginning.
- Okay, this hyung either has a multiple personality disorder or he's living a double life, OR perhaps it really is all in dearest Kang Ha-neul's (Jin-seok's) head. That jumpscare woman definitely is, but idk about the hyung. Not wearing/needing his glasses, the limp disappearing, smoking, swearing...
- Either I didn't pay close attention (though I rewinded that part) or the hyung listed the taxi too at their fight even though Jin-seok didn't mention that to him. Hmm... [HA, I KNEW IT!]
- Okay, well, something is still wrong with Jin-seok too because he keeps seeing these weird dreams and hearing noises from that locked room. And I don't think that these have to do anything with Yu-seok (or "Yu-seok"), only if it's his torture room or something. :'D
- Ooooh, mom is in it too! Or, again, it's all in Jin-seok's head.
- Lol, "Mr. Park"? "Mr. Choi"? Are they doing some sick experiment on Jin-seok? Come to think of it, that mover guy even asked Jin-seok if Yu-seok is really his brother (Jin-seok laughing it off with an "I know we don't look alike" comment). HMM... At this point I'm not even sure if the medicine they give Jin-seok is really an anti-anxiety medicine. [Hehe, call me detective. xD] He first followed his hyung when he forgot to take it, so... :thinking:
- I love that last time when Jin-seok stepped out after 12:30 AM, there were quite a few people, but when it's a chase where he would be in need of someone outsider, there's literally no one on the streets. :'D
- OH, SNAP. So I still bet either on the sick experiment or the brainf*ck. His "family" propped the house full of older stuff, they used flip phones, he even had a Discman... but how could he not notice all the modern sh*t when he stepped outside? Only when he went in the police station? And he never looked in a mirror before to not notice his age? Eh, maybe it is his mind playing games with him, not actual people.
- Wow. The plot is becoming too wow.
- Uhm... yeah. No wonder why did he erase that period from his memories.
- I don't get why did Jin-seok lie and protect that scum doctor, but I'm glad that the hyung (well, now dongsaeng, I guess) didn't believe it.

Sooo... I came to watch a thriller and be spooked, but that only worked for about 1 hour of the movie, the other (almost) half just made me sad. The ending was disappointing for me; I was hoping for something more of an experiment or hallucinations (like I tried to guess above), but at least it answered the first half of the movie.
So let's see what we got instead. A car accident, a broke and desperate survivor, a likewise broke and desperate father, an unfortunate accident, an unfortunate following semi-accident, a quarrel leading to a fatal accident... then, 20 years later, a sick interrogation method, and finally a double suicide.

And all I wanted was some spooks.

I came with high expectations since it's a well-known horror, but these almost 40 years didn't do any good to it, it seems.

The actings were terrible, I swear the little boy did the best of 'em all. Jack was overdoing it by a mile (even when he was still sane), and Shelley (Wendy) was like as if she read the lines from a screen. Scatman (Mr. Hallorann) did kinda good.

At first the pace was nicely slow, then it became boring, then it straight-up started randomly jumping around. The twins only appeared to Danny twice, the (seemingly) chemical-burned woman once, the bloodwave from the elevator was wtf, not even mentioning why did Jack call himself Johnny in the (probably) most iconic scene.
It mainly felt like a game of how-many-horror-elements-can-we-force-into-one-story. And I don't know if it's King's fault (him being the original author) or the movie was this poorly done regarding its logic. There were so many storylines introduced, yet almost all of them were just forgotten by the next scene. Why did Danny have that power? What exactly was that power? Why did the isolation have an effect on Jack but not on Wendy or Danny? (Well, Wendy did have a hallucination after Jack tried to chop her down, but then...) Why tf did Wendy hallucinate about a furry giving (and please, tell me I'm mistaken) a BJ to a man? And who choked Danny? Why did they hurt him?
These are just some of the questions left unanswered. Well, in fact, after watching the movie, I think I have more questions than answers. But at least I laughed a lot instead of being scared, and humanity gained some memes out of this movie.

So I'mma just slowly walk away and pretend I didn't see all the comments stating the total opposite of my opinion.

I have a few questions (as usual):
- Why did the show appear again in TV after both Mike and Eddie were stuck in that other world (Candle Cove)?
- Why was Eddie a tooth monster? If I remember correctly, Gene "only" broke his finger, so he could've been a bone monster or something, but there wasn't anything related to teeth in their childhood fights.
- Why could only children "find" Candle Cove on TV (or more accurately: why did it appear only to them)? And what was that in the show that made children attack people, kill them and obey to Eddie? There weren't any hidden messages, orders for assault or anything like that in the episode snippets we've been shown...
- Why did the children listen to Mrs. Booth? Just because he sacrificed his son to Eddie?
- If Eddie was the real creator of Candle Cove, how did he make the show? How did he broadcast that on a secret channel, only to children to be seen?
- What kind of powers did Eddie have to have been able to stop Mrs. Booth's seizures?

I know it's fiction, sci-fi, but I think they could easily have answered all of these plot holes. Not with down-to-earth things, but I'm sure they could've think of something if they just took more time to build a better plot.

Random thoughts while watching the movie:
- That teacher didn't see at all that everyone was staring at Lynn's hand (or at least at her direction) who was sitting in the first row? Not even when only like 15 kids were left there writing the test? Lol.
- I get that they were mad at Bank who crashed their car's mirror (accidentally, I believe), but isn't beating up and throwing a teenager to a dump a bit... I dunno, exaggerated? [Lol, I wasn't suspecting foul play without a reason.]
- That barcode part is genius, but I don't really get how they want to realize that plan. It's not like they have the time or equipment to create pencils with the answers while they're taking the test. [Ah, okay, nevermind.]
- Bank's rage scene when he found out that Pat sent those jerks to beat him up was 12/10.
- That phone-in-the-tank-of-the-toilet plan could go wrong in so many ways. Like what if you can't take off the lid in the toilets of Sydney (or in that particular building)? Or what if someone uses that exact toilet you chose to hide the phone in in the break? All that planning can be ruined in a split second. [I really should be a fortune-teller...]
- Standing up right after the teachers says the word "break" is a liittle not so subtle.
- Wooah, that effect when Lynn slided across the exam room to the piano!
- Okay, now, I'm 103% sure that Lynn choking on her pencil was noticeable for... basically everyone in that quiet and still room. Yet somehow everyone acted so surprised to see her vomiting.
- Why are they chasing Lynn? Because she just left after throwing up? I don't think they have evidence on her since she hid the phone. And chasing her all the way down the streets and the metro station...

I was stunned by the acting. Good Thai actors are so hard to find, especially young ones, so I was really glad about the cast.
The planning of cheating on the high school tests and on the STIC one was mind-blowing. So creative methods!
I was a little meh about Bank turning into a mad businessman at the end - that's absoluety not his character (he almost threw up from actual anxiety or panic in the toilet!). It would've been somewhat believeable if they hadn't have gotten caught in Sydney - giving him adrenaline, money, good scores and all that jazz, but this way... I don't know. Though I guess that had to be done in order for Lynn to have her happy(ish) ending.
I would've watched this movie for a bit longer, just to know where the 4 main characters end up. Or to learn what kind if punishment did Lynn face at the end. I feel like this ending was left too open for the viewers.

Overall, I really enjoyed this movie. At first it seemed way too long, but now I understand why. The plot had its small holes (like every other one), but I would recommend it for anyone.