Not disappointed by the ending. But the entire season, while entertaining, did disappoint all in all. The side stories I couldn't have cared much less about, pretty much all of the characters are unlikeable. They do get me to care about the protagonist a little, though, which makes it at least watchable.
Would not ever watch again.
As someone who's been a major fan of many TV shows for years and years, and someone who only got into Lost a few months ago: Lost is the greatest thing to ever have been televised. Seriously. Nothing has ever been so immersive, atmospheric and ambitious as this show. It had me gripped from start to finish, and I was genuinely satisfied by the ending (it's incredibly misunderstood). There has never been a TV series as big as Lost, and there may never be again.
Trakt doesn't allow emojis in comments, but If it were, my comment would be somerhing like: The soundtrack in this show is fire emoji fire emoji fire emoji.
It's not supposed to be taken seriously, and that is great. It's not as /dark/ as the original Teen Titans tvshow (or most of DC tvshows, to be honest) but it's silly and funny and that was probably the point. It's a great silly show that makes you laugh. There's nothing wrong with that.
I wish I could give it a 10 (which I very very rarely do) -Season one is excellent in every aspect but one:
The timeline is blurry and confusing as f***.
Events taking place decades apart are only put into their place by a character dropping that something happened three decades ago in passing.
Normally that wouldn't be an issue, but most characters don't age!
I am still a bit confused as to why the bard doesn't age, since he seems to be human (I'm at Episode 6, so I hope they do explain it in one of the last episodes, but I doubt it)
That combinations makes it really hard to keep track of what happened before, what happened after and what happens at the same time.
P.S.: I don't know the books, so I have no idea if they had the same problems.
I took a look at the descriptions for the books though and some elements seem to coincide with the first prequel book. So I assume they are meshing prequel and original books together somehow.
"we kept amethyst" HAHA i'm dying
Overall another mixed season. I am not so sure whether this is exactly better or equal to season 7.
I criticised S7 for having some of the worst episodes so far, meaning to that point in S7.
But S8 opens with even worse episodes than that, from 1 to 4. On the other hand, its best episodes are better than those from S7, so it kinda equals each other out again. S6 is the lowpoint of this show so far in my opinion.
However, stupidity seems to start reigning this show in general. There were so many scenes and plots that were based on frustrating stupidity that I partially lost interest in episodes. Leaving your tied up Leviathan alone because of a phone call for example is one of those and only done because a Deus-Ex-Leviathan is needed later in the finale. Heavy handed as it is, it makes Dean and Sam seam out of character here, especially Dean, who usually is übersuspicious in these things.
Another bad thing is Castiel who is a mindless puppet throughout, who gets abused again and again but would actually really be a good guy if Dean wouldn't push him away every time again (his annoying stubborness) instead of helping him for a change.
At least the constant whining and bitching between the two brothers was tuned down a lot this season.
Overall a better season than I anticipated it to be, despite those stupidity issues, though.
Favourite season cliffhanger, too.
The flow of this episode detracted from its dramatic effect. There were many good pieces in this episode, but their order and the editing of them reduced their impact. Naomi's rescue, the battle with the Rocinante, the battle at the gate, and the reunion with Avasarala, none of these hit with me the way they could've.
Firstly, the nice speech Avasarala gives during the reception would have been much better as the last scene of the episode. After the belters and Martians have taken over the ring, we would be concerned about the future, then Avasarala gives us hope.
The other development that didn't resonate with me was the dissolution of Drummer's team. I understand that they were torn between supporting Marcos and not, but that turmoil was caused by a threat of destruction, not a desire to work with Inaros. The ties between the crew were shown to be extremely strong, emotionally and otherwise. It should take an enormous conflict to break them. The crew knew that the agreement with Inaros was made under duress and so should have understood how fragile it was. The crew faced two options: cooperate with Inaros and do things they did not want to, or risk their lives and their family's lives by defying him. Both options would be reasonable and acceptable to the crew, and it doesn't resonate with me that the crew would be that upset by Drummer making the decision everyone thought she'd make in the first place. I could accept a decision by some of the crew to leave temporarily because their brother was killed, but to blame Drummer for this (and not Inaros) and completely break their bonds is a stretch given their relationship.
Ngl the biggest mystery for me this season has got to be Filip. More precisely, what the hell is going on inside his head?!
I can't read him. And I really wanted to know his side of the story. Like, is he all in with Marco's plan now? Or is he fed up with that manipulative asshole? Cause he was acting pretty weird in this episode. Is he on the fence about this whole thing, maybe because getting to see Naomi in person changed his perspective a bit?!
I loved Garnet before and now I even love her more. That show is damn perfect!
I can't believe Garnet was really two lesbians in a trench coat all along. What does this mean for the rest of the characters in the show? Are all the other characters smaller and gayer than we originally thought?
Holy shit. Well, that was quite the episode, arguably the best thing Supernatural has put out in a couple of seasons...
"Since when do we get what we deserve?"
All these years, I assumed that after the molotov thingy, Adam's soul went to Heaven. Call me an optimist but I liked to think the boys didn't save him because they knew it. I liked a good old "hey, they forgot Adam" joke, so I ran with that. However, he made me feel really sad for him. His last sentence, his face expressions and his eyes watering... Poor kid. I could feel how abandoned he feels and how his relationship with Michael was developed.
Jake Abel was the best part of the episode. Hats off to him! The duality between Michael and Adam was incredibly well portrayed. I'm so damn angry that we didn't get to see this any sooner. It was a bummer that he didn't stay at the end. I hope he comes back somehow. I'm pretty sure he'll be needed to lock God, Amara-style.
It's fun to see how your ideas about how Michael would be or act get subverted in just a second. After seeing Alternate Universe Michael being pretty smart but reckless, I wasn't expecting him to be such a chill guy. It's actually great to see a nice angel every once in a while. He's always been a strong angel, but pretty naive.
I geniuly loved how well he treated Adam and how he takes care of him, even protecting him. I truly loved their scene at the diner when Adam was talking about not being able to go to college anymore or just letting him eat a burger. Really nice angel our Michael.
I loved this version of Michael. He spent all those years in hell and he still manages to be the only well-adjusted brother. I loved how he just Men in Black those people at the diner. Also, the conversation between Adam and Michael while the former was trying to talk some sense I to him about the whole God thing was absolutely great.
Another one who steals the show is Donny. He's such a great addition to the show. His attitude and his one-liners always get me. Plus, his acting in this episode was great, especially when he was possessed by Chuck. I loved that scene, creepy and great at the same time. Even his cadence while speaking was Chuck-like. The way he channeled him was outstanding.
"What is it with you people?! Can't anything you do be easy?! I mean"
"Really? I have to leave? That's too bad" He proceeds to leave at the speed of light
"Excuse me. I need bourbon"
Our red-headed witch is back in the game and taking over Crowley's throne! I actually got mixed feelings when she was killed. I loved her send-off but I hated seeing her go because she's been a character which has grown on me and went from a villain into an ally. But seeing her again brought a smile to my face. And even in Hell, she's still fashionable as always. And classy: "Flesh on flesh sex. Amazon doesn't deliver here...yeeeet" and also how she counceled Dean and Cas, channeling what we're all thinking. "Boys...fix it!"
I cracked when Cas asked Michael whether he remembered him and he replied "You called me assbutt and set me on fire". Those words from Swan Song will never get old.
Also, Richard Speigh Jr, once again, did an amazing job. The camera angle on the boys when they trapped MI hael was outstanding.
Unrelated to this, there's always one thing that gets me and that I don't think I'll ever be over and that's Sam's throat clearing when he's nervous. It gets me every time.
I don't get how the boys haven't updated the bunker's warning. Literally every cresture can step into. Amara, Chuck, Death, Asmodeus, every single one of them just waltzed into the bunker like it's nothing. And the boys still get surprised.
Speaking of Chuck. It was obvious the whole Sue was a trap and that Chuck was behind it. I remember the old Chuck, an awkward but cute guy, and now he's just scary dude appearing in parking lots. I hope nothing bad happens to Eileen, though. I guess hell just use Sam and show him his endings, or just try to heal his wound.
Overall, and amazing episode. Best one so far and Jake Abel had a great part on it. I hope I'll see again in more episodes. I'd be great to see all the archangels joining forces, along with aunty Amara, to lock Chuck in the cage. There were a couple of things that were off, like the classic rock music, which has been off ever since this season started, or that they're still trying to make Dean look like an idiot. But overall, finally a story-packed episode that promises a lot for next ones.
"We could never actually pick locks, it was Chuck all the time"
What makes a hero?
The episode itself ties to the question that's been circling the show since the finale last season. What is designed by God? Is free will actually a choice? Are we just pawns used by God to play in his chessboard? Can we create our own destiny or are we trapped no matter what we do?
I went a bit philosophical there but, after reflecting upon it, that's the question the episode left me wondering.
Heroes and guest stars. I love that this episode proved that Garth, a "normal" being in a Supernatural world was actually the hero of the story for once. Garth is one of those light characters that make any episode better. He's so pure at heart and so innocent... He's a goddamn treasure.
The episode reminded me of Bad Day at Black Rock where the boys can't handle the situation and Bobby has to appear to sort of save the day. The same with Garth here. Our episode's hero. They say heros have to be pure at heart. Well, there's no one purer than Garth.
I'm gonna miss these crazy, cartoonist looney-Tunney episodes. This was probably the last light-hearted episode were gonna get. It hurts saying it. But let's face it, it was nice to have a breath of fresh air after last week's episode.
I actually enjoyed it a lot. The title itself got me pumped up. Although I actually expected to see the entire journey in the episode, it looks like it's only been the first leg, and we'll get the full circle next week.
If Chuck's actually writing all of this, Garth is definitely his favorite character. It was a very nice send-off to Garth. Watching him with his lovely wife and his children...and then dancing with her. I'm gonna miss him a lot. But what a nice conclusion for this character. He did nothing wrong in his life and even when he sided in the wrong side of things, he always tried to help and do better.
I have one question, though. If I'm not missing anything, the last time Garth was mentioned was when he was tossed in the trunk of the Impala, so what happened in-between?
Everything from Sam's awkward coughing to Dean's parking ticket and his weird dance (the hell's going on in his head?), going through the Impala constantly breaking down was entertaining.
Also, Sam losing his puppy eyes power cracked me up. Well that and Gertie's "Mummy, the giant’s crying!" That actually got a good laugh out of me.
One thing that was odd was the music choices. I've grown up with the show and I can't understand it without classic rock music. The "Werewolves in London" song at the end made me nostalgic of the earlier seasons. I just wish we could have a nice 80s rock classic while the boys drive away in the Impala.
I'm willing to buy that the boys are actually cursed or simply having a bad day, or that Chuck actually decided to give them normal people's problems, but going from that to take their hunting skills away. They've been trained by John. Credit where credit's due. I refuse to believe their training, abilities and accomplishments are the result of Chuck's mumbo jumbo.
Say what you will. Even though this episode wasn't the series finale. I'd have been more than content even if it was. That end montage. Ah. It's good to remember the good old days
How...did Dean get there so quickly? Were Sam and Jack just staring in awe for half an hour till he showed up?
Dean with the dog was cute, but let's be honest, who didn't see that coming?
So, we have both Lucifer and Michael back in the picture. I'm thinking each uses their perfect vessel to team up against God?
Wow. How convenient that Lucifer managed to find and capture a reaper. After we had been told that there are no more reapers. Sigh
So, Lucifer shows up for five minutes and then gets killed with his only purpose in the entire episode being to make a reaper who shouldn't exist become Death, kill said reaper, and keep the book open for the boys to later read. Second sigh
So, only AFTER Castiel and Jack sacrifice themselves do Sam and Dean carve their names into the table? Eyeroll
Um. What? So, what the hell is the final episode going to be about?? What, is it just going to be some reboot or spinoff setup or something? Even if this were the finale, it still wouldn't have been satisfying. This was kind of rushed and so simplistic that it should have been at least two episodes so that it didn't feel absurdly easy and lacking in weight to finally beat Chuck. But then again, Supernatural has always had a history of underwhelmingly and anticlimactically ending big baddies...
Signed:
~SophieFilo16~
Piss off. This was not the ending the series or the characters deserved after everything.
One of the worst finales to a series. All character arcs, build ups and growth abandoned so the brothers can regress to their season 1 self. Sam never mentions Eileen and Dean never talks about the circumstances of Cas's death. Other characters? Who are they? Only Sam and Dean make up this show. Family DOES end in blood.
This was quite a let down. So Dean battles countless demons, vampires, deities, literal God and the Devil...and he gets got by a rusty spike in an old barn?? I wouldn't say it was on the level of Game of Thrones bad; this finale was more a weak effort rather than terrible. Mind you, the final season has been a bit so-so, with the second half being particularly sub par. The concept of them all ultimately ending up in Heaven is a nice one, although arguably unnecessary for the show's finale; the fact they did this feels a bit "and that's that, guys, we're not having any spin-offs or films". Personally, I think they'd have been better off fleshing out and properly crafting last week's plot across a double episode and giving it chance to breathe, while also bringing back a few familiar faces like Crowley and Rowena to help see off Chuck, who I feel were sorely missed from the show's final outing(s).
Honestly, Im not gonna say anything. I'm way too mad.
ACTUALLY IT'S GONNA BUG ME IF I DONT. HOLD MY BEER CUZ IM GONNA RANT.
WHAT :clap:THE :clap:FUCK :clap:.
SERIOUSLY, I don't even know where to start.
They just got all of Dean's character development and shoved up their ass. Boy finally, FINALLY, has control over his life; he's not being controlled by his dad or Chuck or whateverfuck supreme power, his life is his own and he was ready to LIVE it, for God's sake he got a freaking dog. And for what? To be killed by tetanus. The whole season was about defying "destiny", and they killed him the way that was supposed to happen since season 1. I'm sorry but that's just lazy.
DONT GET ME START ON CASTIEL CUZ IM GONNA BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT TIL THE DAY I DIE, mf sacrifice himself to save dean's life, just for him die weeks later, WHAT'S THE POINT??? But serious it bugged me so much the fact that they didn't even knowledge his sacrifice, they didn't mourn him or mentioned him. Boy got sucked to mega turbo hell and all that was said was "well too bad". Castiel deserved better. He really did.
I'm not even gonna talk about Sam cuz I'm still offended by those wigs. But what was the point of making him and Eileen a thing, if at the end he wasn't gonna stay with her? Serious.
It just feels like these 15 years of character build, stories, arcs didn't mean shit because at the end they went with the path that was been there since season 1. Dean died young, on a hunt, without a family of his own, and Sam got to live his apple pie life with wife and kids.
WHAT WAS THE POINT.
This was just such an unnecessary episode. Leaving it at ep 19 would have been acceptable, instead they conjured up a quasi happily ever after that they pulled out of their ass. Leaving more questions then a wrap up should.
No reference to the reappearance of the people they “cared” about, not even a phone call? What killed dean? They couldn’t go to the hospital? Jack brought everyone back but not Cass? Wait cass is back just dgaf about them anymore? Is Sam with Eileen or some rando? No check in to see how old god is going. Not catch up with jack, is he alone now he’s god or what? No reunion of the whole family
Plus we’ve seen the long teary speech between brothers and drive in a car a thousand times before so don’t tell me they just ran out of time to show it all.
Like a lifetime movie all emotion no substance nor sensical to the story line.
OK, to be honest, I have mixed feelings. It wasn't all that bad - as Dean said, you knew this was always how it's going to end. And it really should, this is Supernatural not some rom com..
Well actually it was a com in some episodes, which I really loved. Trickster, the one Dean was afraid of everything, Scooby!!
But back to the ending, I liked the fact that they finally managed to create a heaven they deserved, and at this point, after all the times we've seen the brothers die, dying felt more like a choice. So yes, I was expecting this end for both of them.
The only thing I'm wondering about is how much effect COVID-19 had on the last episodes. We see very few of the cast, when the perfect wrap up would be to bring almost everyone together (at least the big ones) for a proper farewell. I would really like the last episode reshot, not to change anything on the way it ends, but to involve more loved characters in it. Also the acting could have been better.
I really loved the actors' thank you in the end and the "Carry on" song was very heartwarming throughout the episode.
Thank you Supernatural for all these years, you will always have a special place in my memories
P. S. Was it a pwn that Dean loved to drive the "Impala" and ended up being "Impaled" :)
I get why everyone is pissed, cz I'm pissed too. But in the end and deep down in our hearts we knew this was coming. One of them is gonna die and one of them is gonna have to live a full life and bring the next generation Winchester out into the world. It was a given in my opinion. Or on the other hand they both die and we still are pissed off about it. The writers just had the audacity to not mention anyone in this last episode of the effing SERIES! Like, WHAT!? WHY!? Why wasn't Cas there to welcome Dean? Why didn't the other hunters come back? Why didn't jack come to meet Dean and Sam? What happened to Judy and the girls? Just why did they had to die anyway? Why did Dean die like that? Why did I ugly cry when Dean was dead and then again when Sam was on his death bed taking his last breathe and then again when Carry On was playing?? WHY? WHY?? UGH!!!
I'm just happy its finally over. But seriously, so many questions were unanswered.
I have so much to say about this show and how bad it is. If you want a excellent supernatural drama, then watch this BUT only from season 1 to 5. The fifth season's finale offers a great ending to the show and after that, everything is just plain bad. The plots stop making sense, they bring back characters just to kill them off and introduce new ones nobody gives a shit about. Think about everything that makes the show amazing, all those characters you love. Well, you'll be lucky if they decide to kill them off, because they managed to ruin Castiel and Crowley's characters to a point where I can't even stand them. Season 10's Crowley is just terrible, all he does is sit on his chair in his castle or whatever the hell that is (look i made a pun) and kill random demons. Regarding Castiel, a lot happens to him after the fifth season, sure, but his character just doesn't evolve. This is so irritating because i was such a huge fan of this show but now i feel like i'm gonna have to drop it.
I can only recommend the 5 first seasons, after that everything is just bad.
Just look at the gap between season 1-5 ratings and season 6-10 (or 11 now, since it has been renewed), and really the only people still defending this show are tumblr hardcore fans and shippers.
I wonder what Troy wrote her.
[9.0/10] There’s so much to talk about in this one. X-Men’s Quicksilver as Avengers Quicksilver! Bulletproof hotpants! 1980s TV spoofs! Scarlet Witch’s stand-off with Sword!
But here’s the thing that stands out to me, the thing that grabbed me the most while watching this “Very Special Episode” -- Vision confronting the woman he loves over what’s happening. That moment has extra oomph because of the effects. There’s something eerie about the two of them arguing over the end credits until they stop. There’s something scary about the two of them rising into the air at the same time they raise their voices to one another.
What stands out about it, though, is the emotional rawness in the moment. Vision isn’t just upset; he’s worried that he can no longer trust his wife, that she’s done something terrible to him, to everyone, and doing everything in her power to keep it from him. Wanda is trying to hold it together, feeling just as vulnerable and admitting she’s not even sure how this started. They are both just so messed up by what’s happening, so riven by it, but in ways that drive them apart over whether to tear this all down or do everything they can to continue propping it up.
The tenor of the scene is familiar to anyone who’s spoken with a loved one who’s unwell, who is not themselves, whether through grief or mental illness or some other trauma that jeopardizes their ability to process the world as it is. There’s an honesty to that scene, one that is frankly startling, and it’s the kind of place I never really expected an MCU project to go. It’s draped in reality-distorting fiction and the trappings of family sitcoms, but somehow that just makes it all the more disturbing and poignant when the truth of those moments bursts through those bracing layers of abstraction.
That’s bolstered by the second most stunning revelation of “On a Very Special Episode” -- that Wanda stole Vision’s corpse from Sword. More to the point, that he left a living will and wished never to be revived, not wanting to be anyone’s weapon. It’s plain that Wanda, either by herself or with the help of someone else, revivified him, and that he’s starting to reckon with the margins of what happened to him, if not the full picture.
He’s starting to see through the illusions and deceptions that Westview is made of. Again, the show does so well making the moments where it breaks the sitcom rhythms unnerving. Agnes’s “should I take it from the top” bit is eerie, and for once, Vision has a chance to realize it before Wanda resets things. Instead, she tries to play it off, tries to distract him with puppies and doorbells ringing and other head-fakes that Vision’s nevertheless noticing.
It comes through in the odd behavior of his coworkers, who respond to a Sword email by reading and laughing in unison. Vision briefly frees Norm, who is understandably frantic and undone and, most importantly, in pain over what’s being done to him. The secret truth of WandaVision is that it’s not a comedy show or sitcom homage or a superhero series. It’s a horror show, and Vision’s starting to realize that. He’s realizing that everything is wrong here, starting with him, what he can and can’t remember, and the mother of his children.
Meanwhile, there’s some more traditional but still cool developments on the outside. Monica Rambeau, Jimmy Woo, and Darcy Lewis are trying to save Wanda, trying to show her compassion despite what’s happening, while Sword Director Hayward thinks she’s just a terrorist who needs to be taken out. Meanwhile, our trio of familiar characters are finding solutions to the problem, realizing that 1980s tech can penetrate the Hex without being transformed by Scarlet Witch’s powers.
Of course, it doesn’t go unnoticed by Wanda, and she storms out of the Hex to threaten Heyward and everyone else when, unbeknownst to Monica, he tries to use their drone to eliminate her. It’s a scary moment, one only slightly cut by Elizabeth Olsen reverting to her dodgy Eastern European accent. We see definitively that Wanda has at least some control and awareness of her surroundings and what’s happening, enough to want to protect it from interlopers and those intruding on her surroundings.
It’s become increasingly clear why she’s so protective of her perfect bubble of happiness and what she is running from -- grief. The show channels that idea through 1980s sitcom pastiches in an amusing fashion, with Agnes as the friendly, albeit intrusive neighbor, kids growing up too fast, and dogs dying so that parents can give an important lesson about making peace with certain facts of life.
At the root of it, though, is a deep sense of loss and the artifacts of reckoning with death, something difficult whether you’re a child or an adult. Wanda says to her boys, and to herself, that she cannot reverse death, that they cannot turn away from it, because some things aren’t meant to be elided and some lines shouldn’t be crossed.
We confirm that she has brought the corpse of the man she loves back to life, presumably because she couldn’t deal with his absence and the tragedy of what happened to him. The commercial break this episode name-checks Lagos, the Nigerian city from Civil War where Scarlet Witch accidentally killed dozens of civilians when trying to redirect a blast, more mess than any paper towel could clean up. And she reflects, at her sons’ urging, on the loss of her own twin, Pietro, the only lifeline she had when she lost her parents at the same tender age Billy and Tommy are now.
So she does what she’s already done -- she brings him back, after a fashion. It’s an inspired bit of stunt-casting to bring in Evan Peters to quasi-reprise his role as Quicksilver. But beyond the jolt of the misdirect and reveal is a simple truth, that this whole thing is wrong. It is a coping mechanism, one meant to shield Wanda from yet another horrid demise marring her personal history.
So she, or some other force working with and through her, has constructed this place to evade that destabilizing realization. Vision is breaking out of it, shaking off the cobwebs of his violative rebirth and seeing through the comforting lies that Wanda is straining so hard to hold onto. It is difficult, hollowing, wounding to watch someone you care for undone by grief and trauma, dragging the world down with them. So much of what WandaVision does is clever or exciting or amusing. But what it does here is disquieting beyond words, and deeply, painfully true.
I don’t get the negativity. Honestly you people are so entitled. The lack of context is intentional and there are several clues as to why it’s that way. It’s not a 50s to show (we haven’t seen them imitate a 60s tv show yet, that’s next week). It’s going to change probably every week, even up to the point of imitating modern tv shows like the office from what they’ve said. And the context is clear enough by the end of the second episode. Even without reading additional articles to explain the more subtle hints, you can tell what’s going on at least loosely. Plus it does a great job lampooning the absurdity of 50s tv and ideals about homemaking and marriage. To hilarious effect
PSA: hold ON through the credits there are TWO post-credit scenes
I can understand that fans of the ip are discontent, but thn again fans always are. As someone who doesn't know anything about the source material I think this show is just excellent. The cast is great and diverse, the writing is good and it keeps me wanting more every episode
people are hating it cause it's TOO GAY... I guess I'll watch it twice.
