@christ66 Disagree completely. Watched first episode of Evans Top gear, gave up. Watched few episodes of grand tour, gave up. Watched whole season of LeBlancs Top gear, and I have to say, that was really good, concise, funny car show. With all the changes to the format it came out fresher than the last few Clarkson Top gears. Then I watched Evans Rip gear again, and have to say again that it had really good moments . I can't say that about grand tour. It's just unfunny, forced and bloated. There are about 10 minutes of ok material in every episode and that's it.
@chronosus Yup, I'm not sure you got the point here (which was the last episode of TGT was the least worst, or a poor series, NOT that TGT was any good).
I also think TGT is massively over-indulgent of a group of man-children, given too much budget and insufficient script editing, or production oversight.
Shout by Chris TilburyVIP 8BlockedParent2017-02-03T16:42:33Z
Best effort so far (but that isn't saying a hell of a lot)
More like the old Top Gear, but still not as good (but still better than the new Top Gear)