Welcome to the 2nd worse film in the M C U...it beats The Incredible Hulk (2008)...
Just..had to see it cos of all the fuss...
I wish ... from the bottom of my heart that DC movies be as good as Marvel movies.
I was very much interested how they going to bring back Chris Pine, and for this, I got a great answer. Sadly apart from this, everything else felt really poor.
The story was weak, the ending too cheap. The action scenes could have been better, the CGI was really bad at some points (yes, I'm talking about that scene when WW saved the two kids in Egypt or wherever they were), and they lacked tension. There were no twists at any point in the movie, and I really missed them - not that this is a bad thing, you need those feel-good movies once in a while, but we are talking about a big budget movie here.Have some courage to surprise your audience!! It can be rewarding!
At least the actors and actresses were good. You can't really say anything for Gal Gadot, she plays Diana greatly, but you have to admit, her character doesn't need a lot of acting. Kristen Wiig was a welcome, and Pedro Pascal did a great job within the limits his character gave him.
So all in all, this was not that great. I love DC, I prefer them to the Marvel, but there's something missing from their movies. I really hope the next chapter will be better.
Just another movie Dc fans can be disappointed of.Boring Storyline could be tolerated.But why are the action scenes so cheesy:expressionless:
A pretty good movie, with some decent action and a half-decent script. The logic went out of the window at times but this wasn't a major issue, and the same could be said of any number of comic book movies. Reminded me a little of the early Superman movies in its storytelling and feel, and not only because of the decade in which it is set.
Wonder Woman adaptations are such a mess every single time. Boring all the way. The plot is as ridiculous as her making the plane invisible in 2 minutes.
Also, still wonder why is Gal Gadot Wonder Woman, she has the face no doubt, but she's thin and not muscular at all.
Great film!
Lessons:
1. Don't be greedy
2. Don't wish … instead pray for it.
3. "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" Mark 8:36 KJV
Have Faith, Hope, and Love.
So bad this could be a franchise killer..
Somehow even worse than the first Wonder Woman. The action looks like it's from a low budget B movie - it's completely inexcusable for a big budget movie in 2020. None of the character development makes any sense. The plot is "okay" at best. Includes a ridiculously tone deaf rape scene.
Overall it's just a completely mediocre movie.
Just another hollywood st*pid feminist propaganda. Boring plot, awful characters. Just a feminist who in real life justifies israel occupation and attacks over Palestine. Please Holllywood STOP with this shitty trendy stup*d feminism and make real cinema again. Im watching every time less movies because of these ideological agendas in every movie
absolute garbage. why is it marvel can make a decent movie yet DC remains weak and inconsistent.
It's refreshing to see a old school standalone superhero movie with out the silly team ups or interference of another character.
Just a shitty movie. When did wonder woman get all these extra powers? To bad good CGI wasn’t one of her super powers.
Talk about underwhelming. This is some really bad writing. Like everyone else, I was excited for this, but left disappointed. Chris Pine and Pedro Pascal were the best part of it. I really root for Gal Gadot, but her lack of acting skills really are noticeable with the bad writing. As for the movie, it just got more and more absurd as the movie went on. There were so many unnecessary scenes as well. These are some of the cons just off the top of my head?
Cons:
* The beginning - it kind of made the ending predictable on what was ultimately going to happen.
* The mall scene - it felt like a scene from a tv show. Also, how did the bad guys not die from that drop?
* The highway chase with the kids. How did the kids not hear a full convoy coming that were firing guns at each other?!? Also, how were they not seriously injured from that tumble?
* They didn't give Kristen Wiig's character enough time after the initial introduction. Her final transformation comes out of nowhere.
* Fireworks scene - How the hell did he not know that fireworks existed??
* Flying a Jet - How the hell does he know how to fly a technologically advanced jet?? I don't think the knowledge transfers over quite like that.
* Was Max Lord's kid just sitting in the office the entire duration of the plot? Was he being fed? Did he sleep on the floor and wear the clothes? Where was the mother?
* How come the transformation had to happen in another person's body, but nuclear missiles can appear out of nowhere?
*How come Diana never considered the moral ramifications of her wish? Like not even for a second. Weird.
Bad movie. Easily the worst DCEU movie, and it is not even close. It's all over the place plot wise, action isn't good, characters suck, effects suck. I have almost nothing good to say about this movie other than that I almost enjoyed Pedro Pascal.
It's such a shame because I think the first Wonder Woman is easily the best DCEU movie.
If you liked the original Wonder Woman (2017) you will most likely enjoy this. Although the new movie is not as good as the first one.
I think part of the disappointment (at least mine), is that we were made to wait so long till it was finally released - i feel that maybe just maybe if they had released it to streaming a lot earlier the build-up and anticipation for the movie would not have ended up being a slight disappointment.
Anyway - Max Lord is virtually a carbon copy of Trump except Max Lord saw the light in the end and renounced his bad, errant ways very much unlike Trump. They claim this similarity was 'not' intentional.
Also, it would have been nice to see more of Cheetah. By the time the Cheetah incarnation of Barbara appears she disappeared all too soon.
And while I'm at it - they had plenty of time to fix the Cheetah CGI but they did not - sadly we don't see too much of her but what we do see is not up to today's CGI standards and had to be shrouded by night and a lot of darkness.
All-in-all this was a slightly disappointing follow-up, but definitely enjoyable.
How I rate:
1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time
4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this
7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too
9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
[HBO Max] Wonder Woman is a supporting character in her own sequel. So much so that they need to recover a character from the first movie to be her adventure partner. Goofy villains are the protagonists, but the action scenes are poorly shot. The only thing from the 80's are the visual effects. At least, Hans Zimmer believes the epic of the character. This is what happens when a mediocre director becomes a star.
Can I have my 2 plus hours back? The first 1/3 rd of the movie was over the top 80's references. A magic stone granting wishes. Cheetah girl played by a horrible actress. I love you Pedro, but not in this movie. Used car salesman vibe. DC... should have kept this in the vault. Maybe the Soul movie is better. Disney plus.
This poster reminds me a lot of Thor: Ragnarok...
Predictable, poor storyline with sh*tty special effects.
Much better than Wonder Woman (2017). The presence of Kristen Wiig and Pedro Pacal in the cast is probably part of the reason. I was also surprised by the music (then I understood when I looked at the credits).
On the negative side:
- Gal Gadot's (poor) acting.
- The final battle seems a bit sloppy.
- The end scene, for some reason, is in December (remember it was July 4 when they left for Egypt).
- The post-credit scene is pointless.
ok so I am not a DC nor a marvel Stan(even though I read my fair share of comics) and I watch these movies for fun.
I loved the first wonder woman, it had nice pace, good imagery and was overall... good. this one.........
I don't hate it but i feel that if they had focused 80% more on the script not being a whole lot of cheesy lines about wishing and truth and more about... I don't know fleshing out ANY of the characters it would have been... good?
if was just a mishmash of weird special effects ( they did Kirstin wiig dirty I'm sorry) and terrible costume and make up. as much as I love Gal Gadot as wonder woman, this one is a very meh movie.
By far the worst DC movie. Such a shame. So bad
Wow!!!!! This was bad. It was part George of the Jungle, part Thundercats, and part someone on a lot of drugs.
So I was expecting it to be bad, but as it turns out it wasn’t. Wonder Woman 1984 doesn’t have kick-ass action sequences like in the first movie, but it still manages to be charming regarding its characters and the story. Particularly the story was pretty interesting with the stone reminiscent of The Monkey’s Paw, which turned the entire world into a real hot mess by granting wishes with a price.
The villain, Max Lord, is a clear stand-out too. Comical, entertaining in a way but also smart, and in the end, the true troublemaker who spreads the influence of the stone by absorbing it into himself. It was interesting too to have a villain who becomes so strong that Wonder Woman can only make him give up on his powers by appealing to his humanity and heart.
The movie is also reminiscent of the Golden and Silver Age of comics with a more absurd storyline and portrayal of characters, but the actors for the most part played their part well enough to sell the charm of this approach well enough. Steve Trevor also returns once again, and I enjoyed his scenes with Diana and him getting used to the modern world and being amazed by it. (What Marvel should’ve done with Captain America, let’s be honest.)
7.5/10
This movie was unmemorable. The plot was lackluster and the resolution was unsatisfying. I don't enjoy stories centered around genie wishes because they are bound to have plotholes.
The worst ,,super-hero'' movie I've ever seen. The storyline is so cheap espacially the end. I feel really bad for Pedro Pascal.
Wonder Woman 1984 (WW84) is the highly-anticipated sequel to 2017's Wonder Woman, which was a critical and financial success for DC. The story takes place in the 1980s, and finds Diana Prince (played by Gal Gadot) facing off against the villainous duo of businessman Max Lord (Pascal) and geologist-turned-supervillain Barbara Minerva/Cheetah (Wiig). The plot centers around a magical Dreamstone that can grant wishes, but at a cost, and this MacGuffin is what brings Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) back into the picture. Although the movie has some enjoyable moments and good performances, especially from Gal Gadot, it falls short in terms of heart, soul and pacing. The themes raised and subplots introduced are not fully developed, making the movie feel uninspired, and the climax and pacing feels janky and plodding. The action is decent, but fails to make up for the lack of emotional depth. Overall, WW84 is not a bad movie, but it fails to live up to the expectations set by the first installment and comes across as a bit pointless.
Wonder Woman 1984 (WW84) es la muy esperada secuela de Wonder Woman de 2017, que fue un éxito crítico y financiero para DC. La historia tiene lugar en la década de 1980 y encuentra a Diana Prince (interpretada por Gal Gadot) enfrentándose al dúo de villanos del empresario Max Lord (Pascal) y la geóloga convertida en supervillana Barbara Minerva/Cheetah (Wiig). La trama se centra en una Piedra del Sueño mágica que puede conceder deseos, pero a un costo, y este MacGuffin es lo que hace que Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) vuelva a la escena. Aunque la película tiene algunos momentos agradables y buenas actuaciones, especialmente de Gal Gadot, se queda corta en términos de corazón, alma y ritmo. Los temas planteados y las subtramas presentadas no están completamente desarrollados, lo que hace que la película se sienta sin inspiración, y el clímax y el ritmo se sienten torpes y laboriosos. La acción es decente, pero no logra compensar la falta de profundidad emocional. En general, WW84 no es una mala película, pero no cumple con las expectativas establecidas por la primera entrega y parece un poco inútil.
I wish this movie was better. Ouch!
I have mixed emotions about this.
the good:
Gal Gadot
Few cool scenes
the bad:
most cgi effects are horrible
the storyline itself ridiculous
many scenes you don't even get why they're there and how are they contributing to the story.
I'm truly disappointed in this sequel, The first movie was amazing and this is a huge down compared to it!
6.5/10 - I was so excited for this ever since the trailer with that special "Blue Monday" version! I was so excited for the first Wonder Woman movie as well as the concept is so promising. Unfortunately this movie wasn't as good as I hoped. I really hoped that the second movie would be better but it was likely even worse (not sure since I didn't have enough motivation to rewatch the first movie).
The soundtrack was nice but I really missed "Blue Monday". Tbh that song was the main reason I was so excited to watch this (I don't think I've heard it before the trailer).
The intro started off really well and I thought everything could work out this time. A nice short monologue by Gal Gadot, beautiful nature shots, young Diana (she was my hero of this movie!), very athletic Amazons - it was awesome! Young Diana did so well and I can really understand her frustration when her spear was taken away for "cheating" (technically it was cheating but I'd call it improvising).
Unfortunately it rapidly went downhill from then on.
The robbery scene was kinda fun but I wish we'd have seen even more of the robbers emotions (the others still seemed decent). The woman screaming "gun!" was a bit strange - I thought that scene took place somewhere in America but I didn't pay attention and given that reaction I guess not?
Diana "flying" around was nice. I thought of flying when I saw those scenes but then she was literally flying at the end.
Steve's return made things a bit better. It was just grounding the show and it was so cool to get to see his reactions to new developments - I really loved that part. And also many fun dialogues ("Well, shit, Diana." xD).
Diana has some cool new powers like making things invisible and later even flying.
And then came two really annoying characters: Barbera and Maxwell.
They're both so cliche and lame...
Nothing new - I feel like I've already seen these two characters in countless other movies and I'm tired of it! At least the moment with Maxwell and his son at the end was sweet but I basically was predictable as well.
Anyway, this movie was just not grounded at all and so over the top IMO! The world basically ended and then magically recovered...
I would've really preferred a simple adventure story with far less extremes. I feel like I don't need anything special - just give me a few cool/funny/etc. Diana moments. Like those scenes at the beginning with young Diana. That was so nice! Why not try to make a whole movie like that? I feel like I don't need a typical and boring story arc with some mighty villain (or other challenge) that basically any movie uses.
And regarding that mid-credits scene: Who the f** is Asteria??? Should I know her? Probably something from the comics(?) which I never read?
PS: So cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEMIKBiDHeo
PPS: And thanks Amazon Prime for making me choose between 4K and the OV... I obviously chose the latter (even though I love 4K) but why can't I watch the OV in 4K (the 4K version was only available in German :o)?!?
Despite DC having a pretty strong track record as of late, this is the only notable disappointment in my opinion. It’s not the worst thing in the world, just unfortunately a step behind the rest. Storyline wasn’t very engaging/original, and the action wasn’t anything special. I was hoping my opinion would change for the better on a rewatch, yet that was not the case. Will there be an audience for this? Sure. But I wouldn’t recommend it to everyone.
Rating: 2/5 - 6.5/10 - Not Recommended to Everyone
What the fuck did I just watch
movie was way too long. these super hero movies are a dime a dozen and need to be stopped. rubbish
There are so many bad scenes in this.
So many that I can't believe this exists.
To start with something positive: I still think Gal Gadot fits perfectly well to role of Wonder Woman and I think she should continue to portrait that character. Unfortunately that one of only a few positive things I've to say to about that movie. What really bugs me around is that there are so many things that literate make no sense or did not contribute to the movie at all. To name a few:
The title: Wonder Woman 1984 - ok, why 1984? 80's are cool? Tribute to Eric Arthur Blair? I might have missed a fact but why use an 80's setting if there is no reason to do so?
The plot: Without going into the details this is a typical plot for a super hero movie. The problem is: They made the worst out of it you could do. It is just boring and it feels like that there are no main characters. And why the hell would you bring back Chris Pine just to grin into the camera and say "Oh wow I'm back and now I'm gone"?
The villains: Just one example here that really hits rock bottom: Barbara Minerva after her metamorphosis to that trashy cat thing. I mean what is this? "Hey mom can we watch the musical Cats? No we have Cats at home."
Other facts like sound(track), camera etc. are all fine but especially in contrast to the first movie it remains a huge disappointment.
the best part of this movie is the first 10 minutes
A slow, boring movie with decent or bad performances. It's not worth looking at, even the story is stupid.
A good idea for a story ruined by a poor performance. Plot holes and low-quality effects ruined the experience.
A big, dumb superhero movie. Yes, there are plenty of plot holes and things that don't make sense to nitpick at, but that's what made watching this movie fun for me. Get some buddies together and do your best MST3K impression. And really, none of them were so dealbreaking as to wreak the movie for me.
Also, I'm not the biggest WW fanboy, (in fact, I'm more of a Marvel guy) but I really enjoyed all the fan-service/reference bits like the invisible jet. Like, sure, the reasons why are a real stretch, but I appreciate them going to those lengths to squeeze it in.
Whatever this film is trying to be, it shares no similarities to the first one. Is it imitating those cheesy 80’s flicks or is it just plain bad storytelling? The 1984 title led me in but the feel and music of that era was lacking and I wonder even more what they were trying to do when they made this film.
It’s tolerable and okay to pass by a rainy afternoon which is how I viewed it.
Wow... this movie sucks HARD
A very bad movie. Incoherent, unnecessarily long, a very poor argument. Bad.
Probably the ugliest looking superhero movie ever made; the colour of it, the CGI, the sets and the costumes. Everything that you see is rotten, drab and somehow guady all at once. Watching this actually made my eyes hurt.
my god what a big flop! All the fighting scenes and CGI are cartoon style, the story is out of a bad 80s sci-fi movie and most of the parts of the movie did not make any sense at all! The finish ? OMG ! the plane ! OMG the so dramatic speech at the end OMG! he actually save mankind by the love of his son which he through out of his building twice?
The villain was so cheesy. 2 hours and 20 minutes and 200M budget! OW! talk about wasting money.
And yes Gadot is gorgeous, but she cannot act not even on a school play. Totally lack of talent.
Be careful what you wish for because it can be fulfilled.
“It’s easy. It’s only wind and air... and how to ride it. How to catch it.”
A not bad plot, destroyed by a violation of the laws of physics, excessive tolerance, as well as the MOST terrible motivation of the villain that you can think of. 6/10
DC botches yet another one of their properties with WW84. Set in 1984 (thus a prequel to Justice League), a shady businessman named Maxwell Lord uses a magic stone to grant wishes and increase his power, but the wishes plunge the world into chaos and Dianna Prince is forced to become Wonder Woman once again to stop Lord and save the world. The script is poorly written and doesn’t follow the continuity set up in the Justice League films. And the performances are pretty weak; especially Pedro Pascal, who makes for a rather lame villain (perhaps the worse of the DC Extended Universe films to date). The special effects aren’t very good either. Yet the action sequences are exciting and the fight scenes are kind of fun. Also, there are some amusing comedy moments that work. A dramatic step down from the first film, WW84 is entertaining to a point, but makes a mess out of everything.
To be frank, and I suppose unpleasant, this film is a mess. The opening scenes not only seem to have literally nothing to do with the rest of the story but also make little to no sense. I did not understand what the ‘games’ were about and why on earth did thousands of whooping and fist-pumping (funny how that evolved in a civilisation cut off from the rest of the world) spectators cram into a huge arena to sit whilst A running, jumping, throwing, riding race took place far away from the venue that they could not see or hear, they got brightly coloured banners to tell them who won though. Not only that but a 12-year-old took part against fully grown women and beat them. I get Wonder Women is supposed to be superior even amongst her peers but this was beating everyone around the head with that message to the point of utter wibbly-wobbly dumbness that the whole film never recovered from. I just did not see the point of the opening part of this film.
The action set piece of the mall-store robbery seemed to be for comic effect although it supposedly had a plot point, but once again dumb and badly staged.
Pointing out the scenes that were badly set up or pointless or Basil Exposition heavy in itself is a redundant exercise but from my point of view there were far too many in WW84.
The film is set in 1984 – so instead of just subtly referencing it at points throughout the film we are in fact battered about the head with it, constantly, and childishly. The reason the film is set in 1984? Presumably so they could make as many lame jokes as they could shoe-horn in and because mobile phones make so many perilous situations superfluous.
I really enjoyed Wonder Women, the same director, the same actors, so why does this film looks like someone who is new to directing and producing made it is beyond me. Gal Gadot is lovely to look at, although a bit too unattainable skinny for my liking, and although she will never be award-worthy her acting was okay, in WW84 it is awful and wooden. Perhaps it was the on-the-head clunkers she had spout to make plot and social commentary points throughout the running time. Funnily enough the sentiments and ideology behind the film probably line up more with mine than agin them. After all men have made countless films where they are the hero and women are either love-interest or worse still not in it much at all, female directors are now still only just coming to the fore, superheroes should stand up for all that is fair and right in the whole world and protect the weak and vulnerable from others and themselves. We know in the real world that is never going to happen and probably never will for the rest of the time that humans exist. Having said that just because the story and motives are a bit hokey does not mean that you can make your film a big pile of unwashed pants. Let us make it grounded in some sort of world we know.
Plots holes are to be found in every film, often not because writers and directors do not realise they are there, but because they need to get to point C from point A to tell the story and they hope that the majority of film-goers will not notice due to the film’s overall strength. If your film is weak and uninteresting and full of plot holes, then everyone falls down them. I got tired of climbing out of one only to tumble down the next in WW84. Wonder Women’s powers, when she did not have them weakened to add more peril, seemed to vacillate between indestructible and then a bit crap, the way the ‘lasso of truth’ was presented in the story actually meant she did not need to do anything else but just fling it about here, there and everywhere from her apartment balcony, it could go a long way and was indestructible. She could literally lasso clouds.
I often say, as I am unoriginal and repetitive, that good actors can hold together a weak film like some strong bonding glue. Chris Pine is a good actor, within his range, likewise Kristen Wiig, although my personal jury is out on Pedro Pascal but in this film they all seem to be coasting. Kristen Wiig is good in comedic roles, the slight underdog or overlooked person and clearly that is why she is cast as Barbara Minerva, including the most cliched and horrible, drop my briefcase full of papers signpost early on, then ever colleague and person she meets being really horrible to her, but as a villain she sort of does not cut it. I am hoping Mr Pascal was told to eat every single bit of scenery and play his character as kids Saturday morning show baddy – he seemed to have escaped the clutches of the Power Rangers only to fall into the path of Wonder Women. If he plays Joel in the upcoming Last of US TV like this let’s hope he gets to play golf early on. There is little chemistry on the screen between Pine and Gadot and although he tries desperately to inject some off-kilter humour in his role a lot of it falls flat. Frankly when they are together in romantic scenes they both look a tad bored.
What you see on the screen is not much better. The battles and set pieces are crashy-bashy which is exactly what you want from your super-hero movies but actually I was hoping for more, which is rare for me, some of the CGI is ropey (no pun intended) to say the least. I also had a problem with it being 1984 we had crazy bum-bag fashions and hairstyle thrust into our face and then other characters seemed to have some rather modern style clothing that did not make them look silly when it suited them. The whole feel of the story was off and odd.
The story, well I can rant on about that, but Gal Gadot summed it up near the end of the film. It is the Monkey’s Paw stretched out over two and a half hours.
Anyone who reads my opinions on films, you know who you are, all two of you, will know that superhero films are not my cup of tea. I understand the feel the makers are going for, the audience they need to appeal to, the atheistic of the stories, but how about using some different size and style brushes other than ‘Flat Size 20’? For example, the end of the story the final scenes, I nearly got diabetes watching it. What world was Diane living in, what city or country, it seemed almost to shot deliberately for laughs, as pastiche. It was not.
Also, and it might have been my Blu-Ray, but all the dialogue seemed dubbed, like the entire film’s dialogue was ADRed and then very badly synched. I was distracted. I wear hearing aids I was hoping they had not gone wrong.
I keep reading and hearing the superhero comic book films are for all ages but more adult orientated than others thing. If that is the case WW84 was written and made for those aged about ten.
I cannot recommend this film.
I heard a lot of bad stuff about the second installment of Wonder Woman but after watching it I thought it was actually pretty fun. It definitely was quite different than the first one but I was never bored which is not always a given when a movie has a runtime of over 150 minutes. One negative thing for me were that the special effects did look a bit strange as if the movie was from 20 years ago. But maybe this was intentional, I don‘t know. Still overall I enjoyed the movie.
worst possible movie to end the year with
The first Wonder Woman film was...fine. This one, however, was aggressively bad. At 2.5 hours long, it's too long by about an hour. The first hour is an intense slog. The conflict of the film exists solely from some random macguffin with minimal back story or reason for existence. I know the film wants to say something about the dark side of wish fulfillment, but it's all so heavy handed and cringe-y. Gadot was good as WW, as expected. Pine was fine. Wiig was also...fine. Pascal was surprisingly entertaining simply due to how much scenery he chewed up. The action was Fast & Furious bad, and lacking the fun of those films. I just really struggled to find anything I truly liked and was annoyed by just about everything. If this came out in the 80s, I'd rather watch Superman III than this again (mostly because it's shorter). I also hated that Zimmer recycled John Murphy's "Adagio" (from Sunshine) for one of the few actually good moments of the film. It seemed very lazy. I wanted to love this as I adore the cast and the 80s seemed like a great backdrop, but it was....so, so, so bad....
Okay it teetered on 7, especially through the top long part of morality (if you watch it, you'll know what I'm talking about). But in typical comic book fashion, it ends with a moral message with a happy ending. If you're expecting or hate gothic comic book endings, well DC never falls to end in the high note. Don't turn it off before the credits are over. You find out what happened to Asteria.
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I am disappointed in this movie. I loved the first Wonder Woman movie but with this one they totally broke the plot just to bring back her lover. No-sense plot and story, they could have made a movie a thousand times better with this superhero.
Wonder Woman 1984, it's fair to say, has received something of a mixed reaction. When the initial reviews came in, the critics loved it, but as more and more set their eyes on the film the enthusiasm waned. Even general audiences have been a little divided, with some appreciating the movie's aims and others taking issue with some of the ideas presented within the screenplay.
Personally I enjoyed it. Whilst it may not have quite reached the heights of the first Wonder Woman, there's plenty to appreciate here. The opening sequence, for one, is stunning. This sees a young Diana Prince competing in a major sporting event in her home land of Themyscira. It's a really breathtaking segment that draws you into the movie from the start, and the accompanying narration by Gal Gadot as the Adult Diana works well with the imagery.
Similarly the opening battle of the film in the shopping centre makes for a thrilling action sequence. I always like it when we see a superhero fight what is essentially an everyday crook for them, as it shows that they have their own mundane days in their field of work. It's not always big universe-shattering events, sometimes it's just a pair of thieves. There's a greater meaning too behind seeing Wonder Woman save a kid being dangled from a shopping centre balcony rather than an entire world or nation. It's a more personal touch, and it helps to ground the heroics significantly.
The bigger threats do come later into the film however, as Maxwell Lord (Pedro Pascal) gets his hands on the mysterious wishing stone, and wishes to become the stone itself. Maxwell is a fun character; he's a TV personality who craves power, and takes it from those who cross his path. He's kind of what I'd imagine an evil Stephen Mulhern would be like, if his TV persona wasn't an act he obviously put on for the cameras. I really like the monkey's paw aspect of the wishing stone, and its human embodiment; the idea that you get what you wish for but at a cost always holds for some great dramatic potential, especially when our hero is granted her wish, at the cost of her powers weakening.
Talking of Diana's wish, this is an element I have seen some critique over. The base of her wish fulfilment involves her boyfriend from the previous film Steve Trevor (Chris Pine) returning from his death - albeit in a different man's body - but as mentioned, the price paid is her powers growing weaker. Some have taken issue with how Steve is essentially using a random stranger as a vehicle, which means that when Diana and Steve sleep together she is essentially doing stuff to his body without his consent. I don't see it that way however. The body, in my view, is the vessel, it's not the person inside. When Diana was with Steve, she wasn't with a random stranger. She was with Steve. Diana wasn't, therefore, forcing herself upon anyone.
The Steve aspect of the narrative is overall a lot of fun. Essentially you get the same fish out of water aspect from the first film, although this time the roles are reversed. This time it's Steve out of his comfort zone, in a different time period he is used to, and it's very entertaining seeing his reaction to 80s clothes or escalators. I'm always a sucker for that kind of fish out of water stuff, so personally I got a lot of enjoyment from watching Steve's perspective on this new world.
I do feel it would have worked better narratively speaking, however, had Steve not been played by the same actor from the previous film. We are told Steve looks different, and that he's a different man - but he spends the majority of the film looking exactly the same, precisely because it's Chris Pine. I get that the film is told from Diana's perspective, so it's essentially what she is seeing, but it does just make you wonder why they even bothered with the Steve Trevor body swap if they weren't going to do anything with the concept. We get the odd glimpses of the stranger - played by Kristoffer Polhala - such as when Steve is looking in the mirror, but the point that in reality he doesn't look the same as the Steve Diana knew isn't really shown to us enough as the audience. In fact, you end up even forgetting that Steve Trevor is using another man's body. Instead of telling us that this is Steve in a different man's body, how about showing us by having Kristoffer Polhala effectively playing Steve Trevor, with odd flashes of Chris Pine instead? In any story the idea should be to 'show, don't tell'. But here it's 'tell, don't show'.
One of my favourite aspects of this film is Kristen Wiig as Barbara/Cheetah, and in a largely straight role for an actor largely known for her comedic roles, Kristen Wiig totally knocks it out the park. She is endearingly awkward as Barbara before she makes her wish, and later shockingly cold when she loses her humanity as the cost for her wish to be like Diana. You really buy into Barbara's wish to possess the strength and confidence of Diana Prince, and it's hard not to agree with her to an extent when she asks Diana why she should be forced to give her newfound strength back. Kristen Wiig was a very solid casting choice for sure.
If the film is let down by anything, it's how surprisingly little there actually is of Diana Prince fighting as Wonder Woman. For a film entitled 'Wonder Woman 1984', Diana actually doesn't do that much vigilante work. Whilst this decision does mean we get some great character moments that help to build further on the relationship dynamics between Diana and Steve, it does mean that most of the action is stuff that was already shown in the trailers or on The Graham Norton Show. The film could perhaps have introduced more moments for Diana Prince to show off her skills, and give us more of the 'Wonder Woman' that the title promises.
On a more positive note, Wonder Woman 1984 has perhaps one of the best mid-credits scenes of any film to date. This features the original Wonder Woman Lynda Carter as the 'Golden Warrior' Asteria, and it's a very cool moment for sure. It does make you wonder if they're planning for Lynda Carter to have a major role in the upcoming third Wonder Woman film, as this mid-credits sequence seems to suggest. Could two Wonder Woman actors collide?
Overall, Wonder Woman 1984 is a highly enjoyable follow-up to the first movie. Whilst it perhaps doesn't feature as much 'Wonder Woman' action as you would typically expect, and the decision to keep Chris Pine as Steve Trevor in the context of the film may seem a little strange considering the body swap concept, it features some truly stunning sequences, and two great villains in Maxwell and Barbara. Wonder Woman 1984 is a film that doesn't quite reach the heights of the original, but it gives it a damn good try.
I'd watched the trailer of this movie, and I knew it was gonna be boring. Boy was i not wrong. So lame. Made such a lovable character of the justice league so lame, if you ask me. Just DC things I guess. I had really been looking forward to Flashpoint after Justice League, but after watching this, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Kristen, who played the part of Barbara was really good in the first half, I felt. The makeover, especially. But the transition from semi-villain to full villain was so bad. But that's not on her, it's because of the story. The same old ugly plot of heroes pleading with the villains to do the right thing is really getting annoying now, absolutely ruins any movie. I'd have given it lesser of a rating if it weren't for Gal Gadot. Her looks and accent and costume made me keep it interesting a little bit, but I'm not much of a fan of the acting there. Again, can't really say it's about her, the story was crap. Also the stupid plot about bringing back the old bf Steve, was again a cheap plot. And also, one of the lamest villains I've seen across MCU & DCU
The best thing about this movie is the cameo at the end. Skip quickly to that and don't bother with the rest of this kids movie.
Max Lord is the worst 'bad guy' ever. Cheeta is not very believable. The end is a set of stupide monologues.
Maybe fun to watch with your 13 or 14 y/o daughter..?
I like my super hero movies to have at least some level of realism. This has entirely 0.
Gal Gadot is the only positive thing about this movie, but she alone can't fix this mess.
Please don't be fooled by the poster; the movie isn't as vibrant as it seems. It still looks good, but it did not pop out as much as I expected.
The movie could have worked if the plot was structured and had a logic that made sense. It just felt like ideas that seemed good were thrown in without taking a good look at it.
Some characters did not need to be in the movie for sure. Chris Pine’s character felt super forced, and morally it made wonder woman look not so great. Superheroes have their flaws, but this seemed yikes it reminded me of the ending of the lovely bones and how it's similar and problematic. Kristin Wiggs is a good actor, and it felt like a disservice giving her a character that wasn't fully developed, and if you cut out her parts, it wouldn't make a difference.
Pedro Pascal’s back must have hurt lifting all the weight from carrying this movie; he's genuinely the one redeeming the movie.
It was a straightforward plot, and it's a scenario that shows what would go wrong if The secret by Rhonda Byrne came to life.
Overall, it's not a bad movie by any means, but it could've been so much more, and it is sucks because the first movie was pretty good.
Wow, this movie was really bad. I quite liked the first movie and I am amazed how the writer(s), apparently with Patty Jenkins in the lead, managed to turn this into a boring piece of crud.
The movie is just so boooooring and nonsensical.
Below are my notes when watching this movie (I had to do something while watching it to not get bored out of my mind) which pretty much speaks for itself.
What is it with the stupid beginning? It was just silly lecturing and did not really bring anything to the story.
Those clowns pretending to be robbers. Was it supposed to be funny? Well it was not. Bad start indeed.
25% and this is boring.
40% and this is still f... boring.
A guy used to fly ancient propeller planes can suddenly fly jet fighter planes. And she "forgot" about radar? Seriously?
Flying straight through exploding fireworks and no one saw them nor did the engines get clogged up? And did they not have a world to save instead of sightseeing by the way?
A fighter jet flying from the US to Cairo in one go? Yeah, right!
Finally at 60% there is some action which is of course dragged down by this silly wish stone's impact on Wonder Woman.
And here we go with the illogical emotional bullshit refusing to accept reality.
My God, the bad guy is such an unintelligent and stupid jerk. No charisma whatsoever. The script is really such a juvenile piece of crud that it is unbelievable.
85% and finally some superhero action. Pretty lousy action but at least some action.
Holy crap! Even the finale is boring and dragged out.
This entire movie could have been condensed into a 45 minutes TV show episode, and not a very good one at that.
Patty Jenkins is going on my watch list… for movies that I will avoid!
Gal is gorgeous as always, just like Pine. Pedro Pascal nailed his performance, but the plot, the writing, the story telling and some visuals... pretty bad. The real villains in this movie are the writers. Still fun to watch if you’re DC, Gadot, Pine and /or Pascal fan. 6/10
The real villain in this movie is the writers
2/10
A 5 year old could have writen a better script.
For me this is the end of DC.
RIP!
This movie is a joke! The writing is lazy, the action is dull, the effects are bad and the conclusion is dumb. Gal Gadot doesn't land a single convincing line. Luckily, Pedro Pascal was as great as could be with a script this lousy. He saves this from being a complete pile of garbage, but it's far from a good movie...
This was a pretty dope movie just wish cheetah
girl was more involved
Stay away you have been warned
One of the worst wonder woman movie ever made
Usually I'm the one bucking the trend, but I saw this the same as many. Starts strong, but then forgets it is ultimately an action film and dives into the main plot driver ("wishing") which turns into an anal exam. Had they held the momentum of the first half, this would have been great. Another superhero movie that forgot we are still interested in the hero, not just the villain. Had a lot of wasted potential on this one.
ну да... actually i like the movie 6/10 fair!
a good mixture of James Bond and Marvel Comics with fantasy touch, why not!
but i'm agree with other comments that the movie is tooo long contains too much details in many scenes... and yes, the most unnecessary figure of all is "Steve"!
he would better stay dead ^_^
I loved the invisible jet and her learning flight. I also didn’t hate that we got a glimpse of Cheetah.
That said, I had much higher hopes for this movie. The action was great, the humanisation of the heroine was good. The villain, Maxwell Lord, was simply ridiculous.
All in all, it’s still worth a watch but 9 year old girls cannot run faster than fully grown athletic women - even if they are Amazonian!
Great beginning. Ok action. Don't understand why people gave low ratings to this.
It were bloody rubbish like
Pros :
- Challenging Demi-God Antagonist with stakes.
- Good character development. Diana overcame her grief, she taught Steve how to behave in the human world like he did in the 1st movie and she learnt to fly.
- Nice and original scenario overall where the antagonist is not clearly defined and no mcguffin. Sometimes risky. Almost the first gay relationship in a superhero movie that wouldn't have been too overdone.
- Exciting "God complex" scenes.
Cons :
- Actions scenes are cringe sometimes. Cheetah fight scene could have been way better
- Inconsistencies. Anachronisms. Lots of inconsistencies. The full fuel plane scene because steve doesn't have a passeport but he has. Or Diana sleeping with Steve in someone else body. The "book of the mayas" even though mayas didn't write books. The 3rd world war nuclear event before Batman Vs Superman. And Christmas ending. Seriously writers...
- The moral of the story is kinda off. Except for Diana, the world still sucks for everyone at the end (and we are supposed to accept it ?). The world is even worse than before with all the crazy shenanigans.
- "Meh" Ending. Stupid win. Max Lord was almost a God. He could have used a wish for his son instead of renouncing to his power.
What a horrible, God-Awful movie. Such a letdown. Way too much virtue signaling and not enough storytelling.
Vastly inferior to the first film. Disjointed. Uneven. Some spotty special effects. An overlong and, frankly, over-indulgent epilogue that -- along with a lot of the rest of it -- is so simplistic and shallow that it could have been written by middle school English composition students. On the acting front, Gadot is great while Wiig and Pascal (in particular) seem to be getting paid based on the amount of scenery that they chew. Pine, OTOH, is uneven, sometimes seeming to be focused on turning in a good performance and sometimes seeming to be treating the entire thing as a joke. It is...very weird. Overall, I'd say that 60% of the problems here are with the script while the actors and director split the other 40%.
What did I just watch?
Even an immortal demi-goddess can only be truly happy if she wishes really hard for a boyfriend. Not exactly a positive, empowering feminist message for the young girls this film is aimed at, is it?
A Horrible Movie!!! some scene no sense, special effects horrible, story bore... only good first free ten minutes on the net.
OHH Wonder Woman, you sure seem like a Perfectly working Honeywell water heater, furnace and Thermostat! :anger:
It starts off really good, total epic intro. Then it turns super cheesy, gets worse and worse. Just when you think it can't degenerate any more it turns into the movie Cats.
Planned to watch with 2 special people and a couple of kitties. But lockdown killed that.
Glad I didn't put them through this mediocrity.
This would have fitted perfectly alongside superman 3. set in the 80s, and is sadly just like an 80s superhero film .
Most of the action is completely dulled by being slow motion.
Warner still haven't sorted out their issues with the CGI companies, as they're still receiving 90's quality
Needs about an hour cutting out...
(Which I'll probably spend tomorrow doing, because I don't want to go through it all again when the kids want to watch it)
I do like DC movies and series but this one put me to sleep it was that bad.
Tried to see, really I tried, but you cannot follow the script of a crazy monkey and the erratic direction of this terrible cinecomic
DC is LOST! What a childish and weak story! I often wanted to advance the film. The action scenes were very fake. What a waste of money to produce something like this.
This movie is much much better than the first on. I love it. Amazing.
Just no... not even worth it.
Well I guess it's a movie that's about wonder woman
They made Diana a rapist. Great. What a hero.
Worst ever the first 10minutes made me love amazons more than wonder woman in 1945 or 1984 and I don't want to see her nowadays or anytime soon whatever. I mean gal is a pure asset and I would have loved to see her darker and way much more serious in a very true story with the world. She'd better go back home her story would be more interesting than with us
The movie has many flaws (the CGI is terrible for example) but it's not as bad as I expected. I think I actually liked it more than the first one.
Pedro Pascal was great!
Embodied the era was set in when it comes to movie cheese and I love that. Great use of the BvS theme 'Beautiful Lie' for the climax there, especially considering the theme of this movie is truth.
"That's just a trash can."
As much as I like the first movie, this one felt pretty different. First half was fun: 80's touch, Chris Pine is so likeable and curious, Gal Gadot is great at showing why she should be Wonder Woman, and Kristen Wiig is hilarious. So why didn't the second half work for me? Felt long, and I found no reason for Kristen Wiig's character to be in the movie once it all was resolved. Or maybe I just hyped this up way too much before watching. Either way, doesn't feel like something I will want to watch multiple times like I did for the first one.
the story was boring... first one was better
This is the worst DC movie ever made. Complete trash.
Definitely not good as good as number one. And you can't make this crap up 1984 while we're living at George Orwell 1984 these people mock you and I'm fed up with them still like the movie do you want to know if demons and angels Fallen Angels come from Heaven they jump on Lightning just like Wonder Woman a Nephilim hybrid
I’m conflicted about this movie. So much so that I had to watch it again before I wrote this review. After my first viewing I was just disappointed and I needed to see it again to figure out why. A couple of reasons come to mind immediately: I was a huge fan of the first Wonder Woman movie (I thought DC had finally gotten it right with their big screen offerings) so my expectations were high and fuelled by the delayed gratification of postponed release dates; secondly, there was no cinematic release of this in my area, so I watched it as a Home Release on its opening day on my 50” TV and It just didn’t deliver the immersive experience you get when sitting in a dark theatre. (Some movies should only been seen in theatres. This was one.). Then there were the things with the movie itself: the first 20 minutes were epic but from there on it was uneven, slipping in and out between silliness and majesty. When it had the big beautiful scenes it hit its mark but it failed for me in between. I hate to say it, but Chris Pine brought nothing to the chemistry or the emotional tension. It just fell flat. The Barbara Minerva character was uneven. And, the final resolve was overlong, wordy and melodramatic. So, I guess I’m underwhelmed. I give the film a 6 (fair) out of 10. [Superhero Action]
Not the worst movie I've ever seen, but not far from it! I'm surprised any of the actors would even want to be associated with it.
The CGI is horrible, it doesn't even try to look real. The action scenes, for the most part, aren't even close to being believable, even for a comic book based movie. Pedro Pascal is about as cheesy as you can get as Max Lord.And he's not believable as a super villain. Kristen Wiig isn't bad as Cheetah but she's not in the movie enough, doesn't have enough fight scenes, and is too easily defeated. And the plot holes are as numerous as pot holes in a New England road after a hard winter as the movie jumps from one scene to another with little continuity
The first Gal Gadot Wonder Woman movie was pretty good so I'm sure there will be a sequel to this one. I hope it's better although after this one, the bar is pretty low!
Not great, but also not as bad as the internet would have you believe. Kristen Wiig was a good addition.
Shout by Carlos AntônioBlockedParent2020-12-17T00:15:55Z— updated 2021-03-22T00:19:50Z
Wow, this was amazing! One of the best DCEU movies!