Did this show required home work (watching the animated shows) before watching? I found the first episode uninteresting and boring with bland characters.
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@eriohm Yep I had to search for a few names to understand a bit of a few things cause I didn't watch Rebels after the 2nd episode.
Did this show required home work (watching the animated shows) before watching? I found the first episode uninteresting and boring with bland characters.
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@slimyboi To quote our least favourite Star Wars character... "How Rude".
Well, thx for clarifying... I guess.
I'll just sit this one out then.
Did this show required home work (watching the animated shows) before watching? I found the first episode uninteresting and boring with bland characters.
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@eriohm there's a lot of back story in Rebels this builds on. Pretty essential to watch that first or at least watch a summary somewhere.
Review by Bevans
VIP8I do like the show, but it's not Star Trek. If this was just a new sci-fi show that existed in its own universe, it would be incredible. However, the fact that they've tried to pass this off as Star Trek when it's clearly not sullies the experience.
If it wasn't already apparent, Paramount and CBS have no idea what made Star Trek great, and don't care either. The simple explanation is that the world of Star Trek is supposed to be optimistic; this is pessimistic. And I do enjoy pessimistic sci-fi, but there's so much of it, and to see one of the few optimistic sci-fi worlds turned into something pessimistic is a shame.
Fortunately, we now have The Orville, which is doing Star Trek better than anything has since Voyager ended in 2001.
The show is supposed to take place between Enterprise and TOS, but the technology is very different. For example, there are holograms everywhere. Why try to do a prequel again? Why not set this after Voyager? That would make a lot more sense, and they'd be able to add whatever technology they like, and not be constrained by existing continuity. Fortunately, it's not too late for the showrunners to say "hey, we made a mistake, this actually takes place X years after Voyager".
Last, they fucked up the Klingons. For almost 25 years, they had the look of the Klingons figured out perfectly. They're iconic. But this show (and the reboot movies) messed them up and made them look like generic sci-fi bad guys. What happened to their hair and beards? Also, the costumes are ridiculous, and their ship interiors look like they're made of coral. I do like the idea of having an albino Klingon though.
And I applaud their desire to use the Klingon language on the show, but it's pretty annoying having every Klingon scene subtitled. The previous shows used a common sci-fi conceit: the actors speak a language that the audience understands, but it's accepted that they're really speaking a different language. The viewer effectively has a universal translator so they can understand what's being said.
Also, it looks nothing like Star Trek. Once again, The Orville got that right, and this didn't.
All of that said, I do like the show. The characters are interesting (especially Doug Jones), I've enjoyed each episode, and I think the storyline is pretty interesting. But goddamn it, why did they have to try to make this Star Trek when it's not?
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@bevansdesign I keep seeing comments regarding The Orville being more trekkie than Discovery (myself being a source of said comments), which pleases me, since it makes me realise that people out there still can tell the difference from what makes Star Trek Star Trek and what doesn't. Discovery isn't the Star Trek we used to know. It may even not be Star Trek at all (after the 5 episodes I've seen so far I would never rate it above TNG or Voyager), but there are some trekkie nuances in the show. I, for one, am quite happy that we were fortunate enough to have a show named The Orville that came out of the blue and feels very Star Trek at heart. For a show that was meant to be a satire (I think), it's doing a fine job at actually being as good as the objective of the satire. It's naive and optimistic, just like Star Trek has always been (mostly, at least).
Discovery is something different. Not bad by its own, actually quite a good sci-fi show, but I also have trouble recognising Star Trek in there. It may not be what Gene had envisioned all those years ago, but it's a nice modern take on an old formula that is winning me over.
I'm not sure why this reply kind of transformed into some sort of review, but I honestly just meant to say that I understand what you meant and I agree with you, though I'm enjoying Discovery very much (as a sci-fi show, I'm still trying to figure things out as a Star Trek show).
I hate stories like this. Tales of the Noble Racist.
"The Noble Racist wouldn't be so racist, but they just had all these good rational reasons to be."
Real people are almost never actually like that, it is just the story they convince themselves of to make themselves seem less hateful.loading replies
@jbixby either way every episode is now preachy. It was preachy as it was but now it’s non-stop.
