"It was Oliver in the high castle" that just made my day xD
So far, this is turning out to be the strongest DCTV crossover so far. Good stuff all around. Well, almost...
One big gripe: When the partial Team Arrow (Dinah, Rene, and Curtis) appear and attack Black Arrow, why didn't they... you know... attack? I'd expect to see Dinah's Canary Cry, Rene's guns, and Curtis's T-Spheres all blazing in an all-out assault to take this Very Important Villain down. But... All hand-to-hand? Against an alternate version of a guy they all know can kick their collective asses?
What the... Why? That has to have been the dumbest tactical call ever. These people're smarter than that. Dammit, Writers!
But in the moments that I can push that glaring sore-thumb aside, good stuff.
Generally like the crossovers. In an alternative earth I refuse to believe the bad guy team would even exist though. So much would have changed if Germany had would the war. Many people would have died who would normally have conceived children. Why would Kara's parents send her to Earth full of Nazis?
Tommy Merlyn! I'll be damned. We haven't seen him in forever. Shame he had so little screentime.
If Hitler died in 1994, it means he was 105 years old at the time of his death. Geez. I guess it's true, only good die young.
Lots of funny moments in this one, like Barry's "Good thing we have a metric ton of smart people in this building... and Rory", Kara being grossed out that Overgirl and Dark Arrow are married (seriously though, eww), Supergirl and Flash waiting for Arrow to arrive (probably my favorite moment of the entire episode to be honest, especially Oliver's little grumpy "Just a quick reminder. Super speed? I don't have it."). And on the other end of the spectrum, we got plenty of nice emotional scenes too, especially the one between Jax and Stein (who's chopping onions in here?) and the one between Kara and Alex.
That fucker Eobard just won't die, will he? Where's he popping up next, National City?
Okay, who wants to bet that Felicity will change her mind by the end of the crossover? At this point i'm starting to think they'll do a double wedding kind of thing with Barry and Iris. Oh, and I appreciate that Felicity was wearing a green jacket and Iris was in a red sweater, reflecting their respective love interests' signature colors.
It was kind of hilarious and sad at the same time that the Arrow team appeared for 5 seconds and immediately got their asses kicked.
This crossover has been pretty awesome so far. I'm excited for tomorrow. Let's hope Kara flings her evil doppelganger into the Sun.
Bullets bounce off of me.
This won’t.
That shot with the kryptonite arrow was the single best thing about the show this season. Also, nice to have evil Tommy. Didn’t see that coming.
After a great start of the crossover with Supergirl, great continuing with this one. I just can't wait for a day to watch the next two episodes and first time that I am counting the hours to watch the rest! So let's jump to The Flash's crossover ep!
I wish these crossovers were all action and no drama lol. Alex, Felicity and Iris in them bring the mushy drama. Alex was happy in the last episode. They couldn't leave it at that, so she is crying in this one. Bipolar Alex....lol.
Kara questioning why Oliver has a kryptonite arrow and him saying "in case an evil you showed up!." Was great stuff. The humor felt forced in Justice League after BvsS was so serious. The comedy never feels forced in these shows at least.
I just think that when evil doppelganger Nazi's are around. Should be no time for Olicity moments. Of course the characters point out it's a bad time for those conversations. Doesn't stop them from dragging on those conversations though.
Oliver constantly discussing Felicity with the Flash gets annoying. "Boo hoo, why didn't she say yes when I asked her to marry me ?" Gets old quick. Also have Iris and others asking Felicity why she didn't say yes.
Those moments are hardly a crossover moment come true. Yay, let's bring everyone together so they can discuss their feelings!
Once again far far too much Felicity being horrible and annoying
I’ve missed Tommy...... the vfx sucks, the villains are plain and boring, pretty bad episode...... but I love crossovers. Where’s Nate, Ray, John, superman and Quinn? I thought we were gonna get everyone but apparently not, guess I’m still just gonna have to wait until crisis on infinite earths. I knew thong was a bad guy but a nazi? Really?
Part 1 - Supergirl - S03E08
Part 2 - Arrow - S06E08
Part 3 - The Flash - S04E08
Part 4 - DC's Legends of Tomorrow - S03E08
Well, I'm glad to see that even as a Nazi, Oliver Queen's one weakness is still love. I really like these crossovers, the only thing that bothered me here was the weird disconnect between Nazis as comic book villains and Nazis as, well - actual Nazis. On one hand you have comically evil doppelgängers and super-villains, and on the other you have Felicity's reaction to the alternate history and the concentration camp at the end making this all too real. Maybe it's because I'm German and we get taught from elementary school on that certain things are too serious to even fictionalise (hell, the Nazi flag and salute are stilled banned), but I feel like if you incorporate Nazis in a fictional universe as silly as the Arrowverse, there are things that you have to avoid including if you don't want to make it seem like you're making light of them - such as concentration camps.
"Just a quick reminder: Super speed. I don't have it." LMAO!
We have abandoned this series, we only see this chapter for the saga of Earth-x
Oh, my. Do y'all remember the face cream villain? That was back when Felicity still had long hair and Oliver still used paint as a mask. And they were still firmly repressing their feelings and attraction for each other.
Now they're more in love than ever and she keeps on breaking poor Oliver's heart cause she's terrified everything will go to hell if she allows herself to take that next step with him. And seriously, first evil Tommy killing himself and then Felicity resoundly rejecting his marriage proposal? My heart hurt so much for him. Poor Oliver.
Felicity walking out when they were discussing the fact that the Earth-X invaderders were Nazis, and that they won WW2, twisted my heart. As a Jew, that must have been such a horrible realization for her. I wish Oliver would've been there to comfort her.
Also, I'm still freaked out about evil Oliver and Kara being married. I had a full body cringe when they kissed. It was just so wrong. Gross.
Besides that, Rory continues to crack me up, I hope Cisco wakes up soon and I'm super excited to se how this epic crossover will continue!
It's so... not connected for me. And I see in every fight with minions how the characters hide their faces in order to minimize the necessity to swap faces for the actors.
And how Barry knows that red sun weakens Kara? And how Oliver knows that kryptonite weakens Kara?
And I finally see that we have so much romantic drama that it sickens the plot. I sort of cannot stand it and don't care for it and I'm a big fan of romantic plots in tv shows. It's like all of them had to have some romantic drama before these episodes and had to carry it in these eps. Why? I'm so disappointed. The previous crossover... happened so much in so little (3, not 4 eps) time but it had powers, action, plot, little flirting and comedy. This one is a mess and so much action that it creates plot holes.
By the end of this one, Team Eobard has easily beaten the good guys. I really hope that there's a good reason for not summarily killing them all and that it goes beyond the obvious "Because we have more episodes to make after the crossover is done" one. Meanwhile, we get plenty of Oliver and Felicity relationship drama because it's so awesome and we even get an encore of Alex wanting kids because that was all so awesome, too. Seriously, two of the most annoying and tedious plot developments of all time for these shows and they had to go and showcase both of them again here. Because Evil Nazis can wait while we hash out these much more important matters.
Review by VeroBlockedParentSpoilers2017-11-28T17:10:48Z
This is awesomeness. I had the goofiest of the smiles. Such a joy to watch. It felt like an Arrowverse movie rather than a TV show. I loved that they just created a big story arc, spliced it into four episodes and didn't focus that much on which show the episode belongs to.
The episode felt a little bit longer than the previous one because the Felicity drama slowed it a bit.
They could've gone a little easier on the forced relationship drama as a counterpoint to Barry and Iris' happiness. So far, it didn't make so much sense with what's going on, so it felt a little bit off, but it was still great.
The action scenes were so badass. Those long wide shots with everyone fighting were so good that I wasn't even bothered by the slo-mo scenes. I'm really in love with the shot of Oliver's eye while he was lying on the floor. That was a great cinematography there.
One thing that this episode emphasized was character interaction. It was so well-done and a pleasure to watch. I especially loved Oliver. Stephen Amell is just too good to be true. I'm in love with the guy. He's always great in crossovers but he standed out in this one. I don't know if it was because he got to put on the Green Arrow suit again and got to kick ass or because he was much more funny than in Arrow. He doesn't get those funny remarks on Arrow due to its darkness, but he was incredibly funny and his one-liners were the absolute best.
"Just a quick reminder, super speed - I don't have it". One of the best parts for me, rotf. Delivery was on point. Plus, Kara just started whistling waiting for him. What a funny scene!
Kara: "Is that a kryptonite arrow? Why do you have a kryptonite arrow?"
Oliver: "In case an evil you ever showed up".
That made me laugh so hard but hey, how the hell did Oliver know about kryptonite? How did he get it? If it's from Earth-1, does it mean there's a version of Superman or Supergirl on this earth too?
Dark Arrow: "My allegiance is to the Fatherland and to my wife" looks at Overgirl
Kara: "His wife? Gross! No offense".
I loved how disgusted Kara looked when she knew. Btw, the scene when they kissed was pretty much a big wtf.
Tommy freaking Merlyn! The noise I made wasn't human. Words can't describe what I felt when I saw him and Ollie's pain in his eyes. We finally got Tommytheus! I couldn't believe it aaaand, he's gone. Killing him after a 5 minute talk. I guess they couldn't get Colin Donnell for much longer. But I'm not mad. It was a wtf moment but it was worth just to see Oliver and Tommy interact again. They punched me right in the feels. I could've been watching that for a whole hour. I kinda wished Tommy would've been a good guy after all but being raised in that world without a choice, I don't blame him.
So Eaobard Thawne from Earth-1 is alive after all. But how? I missed Wellsobard so damn much and seeing Reverse Flash again was just perfect. I love you Tom Cavanagh. He's always a pleasure to watch but his version of Thawne is just a standout for me. Overgirl and her interactions with Kara were amazing. I loved how Melissa played an evil version of herself.
Eobard's still somehow alive and I'm grateful but holy molly, killing Barry's mother, killing the original Wells and taking his place, creating a whole bunch of metas, trying to create his brave new world with the Spear of Destiny, all of that I get, but going to Earth-X and getting involved with Nazism, that right there is evil. That crossed the line. I'm looking forward to some further Eobard-Barry interactions, a la season 1 finale.
I loved Harry's remark when Barry was talking about the Reverse Flash. "That guy's an idiot", lmao. That was brilliant.
And the "a lot of smart people...and Rory" line seems to be sticking, lol.
I loved to see Rene, Dinah and Curtis fighting Dark Arrow just to see them wasted one minute later. Dinah could've used her canary cry to stop him, though. Correct me if I'm wrong but that must be the only episode of Arrow without Diggle, not even for a tiny bit. I get why, but still, it was bizarre to see an Arrow episode without him.
I loved how them all got to defend Earth, even Kara and Alex even though this isn't even their earth and yet there they were, kicking Nazis ass. I'm glad Alex could join Kara in this year's crossover unlike last year where she got a left alone as the only member of Supergirl.
And I thought the Jax-Stein scenes in the Supergirl episode were hard. Little did I know! "I never knew my father, but I got to know you. You're the closest thing I've ever had to a dad, and now you're leaving". Right where it hurts: in the feels. It feels like my heart needs a vacation. Man, that hit me pretty hard. Damn ninjas!
Mick Rory is always a plus. I love his random way of doing things. Everyone's about to fight a bunch of Nazis and he bemoans because there's no mustard. He's the absolute best. And he tried to scare Caitlin into Killer Frost, lol. I lost shit in that scene.
That ending scene left me dizzy. Seeing them in a concentration camp made me feel so uncomfortable. That felt straight out wrong. That evil being portrayed on scene turned my stomach.
One thing that I loved was theittle winks to the plot. Iris and Felicity wearing a red and green jacket, respectively as a nod to their love interests was a nice touch. Iris has already done it before, even wearing yellow. And while in the parking lot with the Nazi versions of Ollie and Kara, in the column where Ollie pushed Eobard "E1" was written, as meaning Earth-1 right before they told us that he's the original Eobard. Those little details are fantastic.
I really love the way they structured the crossover. Crisis on Earth-X seems like a standalone show with wee bits from the four Arrowverse shows without an extreme focus on the one that's airing. Even the font was different, which was fantastic. And the intro was absolutely amazing. It reminded me to the iconic Marvel intro.
So far, this has been a fantastic and amazing crossover. Can't wait until tomorrow. The hype is real!