This show is so good. Oh my god. Marvel has so many characters and stories that are so much better than just some flying superheroes beating the shit out of each other. I hope they focus on that in the future.
i don't think season 2 is bad by any means, however i wish it focused more on, you know, loki, than this catastrophic scientific time mumbo jumbo. however, with how this episode ended we're probably... gonna get that now? hopefully?
That's it, final episode of Loki, final episode of anything in the MCU. This is the reboot point, everyone. All future shows and movies are canceled. Stay tuned for a new Iron Man movie starring someone without a checkered past. :P
Dare I say… best episode of Loki yet? Definitely the best this season. Everything about it was PERFECT.
I never thought that Marvel would dare to do a scene like that, where Rabona and Miss Minutes murder the former AVT agents in cold blood, woww... it was too strong a scene.
It was very weird to be eating spaghetti while watching this episode. But wow, mindblown.
Maybe leaving the machine capable of murdering multiple people at once in the room where the prisoners are kept was an incredibly stupid idea? Why would they do that?
That was rugpull-filled ride! And Miss Minutes continues to be so delightfully psychotic.
[5.8/10] I don’t know, folks. I think I’m burning out on this season a bit, which isn’t a good sign for a 6-episode run. There’s just too many characters and too many storylines and too little focus to the whole thing. Season 1 wasn’t perfect, but it was pretty clearly centered on a limited set of characters and relationships and problems which gave it a certain throughline through the insanity of the premise. Season 2 is all over the place and it makes the whole thing pretty tedious to get through.
We have a couple of bootstrap paradoxes. Victory TImely got the TVA handbook from O.B., but O.B. got the handbook from Victory Timely. And then the person who prunes Loki during his visit to the future is....Loki in the future. Okay...sure. Pretty standard time travel stuff. A little cheap, but fine.
But then we have everyone scrambling to do lots of crazy stuff. Victory, O.B., and Casey are trying to rekefargle the horolographer or whatever to fix the time loom through a bunch of technobabble. Renslayer and Miss Minutes are starting a coup. B-15 is trying to rally the troops to preserve the TVA. Loki and Sylvie are having ponderous conversations about who is or isn’t playing god and whether the TVA is worth saving. Brad is turning on General Dox and company. Mobius is...uh...getting pie? Getting yelled at for Sylvie for being myopic or blase? Oh yeah, and the universe is going to explode.
None of it fits together especially well. You never really get a sense of timing or progression ro connection between the various stories. Once again, Loki just kind of jumps from scene to scene without any sense of pacing or structure, and we’re left to wait for the inevitable big bang.
There’s a few smaller moments I liked. Miss Minutes’ degrading is a cool effect. Victor’s fascination and eventual delight with the hot cocoa machine was downright adorable and well-constructed. The scene with Loki, Sylvie, and the ringing phone was shot like a horror movie and drives tension. And something about Victor Timey getting shredded to ribbons from the temporal forces was unexpected and cool visually.
But man, I don’t care about any of the characters or what’s happening at this point. Loki is all over the place. There’s a ton of things going on, but none of them seem to matter because all of them are life or death. There’s little sense of clarity or motivation in most of the actions, just a bunch of thinly-drawn characters doing things for thinly-drawn reasons.
To the point, it’s at least intriguing that Renslayer was once the partner of He Who Remains, until he wiped her memory and everyone else's. The closest thing to potent commentary on this show in a while is the idea that he kept his paradise on the backs of their hard work. The imagery of two women (well, one woman and one clock) saying “We don’t need him. Maybe we never did.” and taking over is something, at least. But after that, it’s not entirely clear what they want. To take over the TVA? Okay, why? What are they going to do with it? How will taking it over TVA bring them what they desire?
At least with Brad, we know that he wants to go back to his branch and live the life of a movie star. His is weirdly the most compelling part of this, because he makes a queasy moral compromise, throwing all of his friends under the bus in the process, to selfishly feather his own nest. It’s not much, but he’s the person here whose choices and motivations are the clearest, and on top of that, his performance is good, so it weirdly makes Brad one of the most compelling characters in this whole confused milieu.
I won’t deny that the hook of the timeline exploding is a good one. It’s not every show that blows up the universe with two episodes to go. But true to the image of the glut of timelines clogging the loom; this episode, and this season, feels like someone threw a plate of spaghetti against the wall and put a frame around it. You can sort of trace things and find batters or throughlines here and there, but overall, it’s just a mess.
The first episode of the season that feels like it's firing on all cylinders as everything escalates to a fantastic cliffhanger.
Ummm, hello? don't do this to me please, give me the next two episodes right away :'(
That cliffhanger is killing me. Can't wait next week.
No idea what's going on, sue me for being dumb.
Exactly 1 season ago, we were introduced to the inimitable Loki variants. Oh how the mighty have fallen. As much as they tried to up the pace in this episode, the consequences are so abstract and irrelevant to the characters and the story, that it falls utterly short. Secret Invasion was the first MCU anything that I did not finish. Loki Season 2 might be the second.
I don't know about everybody else, but this is just painfully boring... the silliness literally gave me a headache.
Ms. Minutes had a wicked smile while the Dox and crew getting squished. She really seemed to love it and got all excited about it. It was a surprise to see that in Loki.
This season is a boring convoluted mess.
Spoilers Ahead, sort of...?
Captures the sense of suspense & anticipation I experienced reading comics at thirteen years old... 1975, Sundays at 4:00 AM, sitting in the cold outside the Quickie Mart while I should've been folding newspapers.
As an adult I don't find a lot of space to feel much though, so it's an 8/10 but a bit hollow. I do appreciate...
the echoes of Sylvie and Loki's relationship,
Dox & Brad's heartbreaks & disappointments,
Judge Gamble & B-15's moment of mutual respect,
OB & Victor's fan-boy moment.
It's prolly me, dopamine's just not crystalizing tho -- it's a comic book 8, hehe
That was hilarious. Again, Loki thinks putting itself in the impossible spot and then solving it with whatever next chapter is good. It is not.
good effects, cute cinematography and a promising ending doesn't make up for the terrible script, weak performances and bad pacing.
So, this wasn't a bad episode per se, definitely the best one in this season yet... but I honestly didn't care. There's so much drama about something that I couldn't care less about. This show continues to fail to emotionally involve me as I'm not interested in the TVA but in Loki. And a show that's called Loki should be about Loki and not the TVA and/or Sylvie.
Everytime I think I'm gonna unambiguously like an episode of loki his season they just have to pull some fuck shit in the end that peeves me. Honestly Heart of the TVA is a pretty strong episode despite my quibbles. For the absolute first time this season I felt like I fully understood the positions, perspectives and goals of all of our characters. We had a lot of sitting in rooms talking scenes this ep which might sound boring but was sorely needed to actually establish why everyone was doing the things they did this season. I especially appreciated getting some real clarity on the different factions in the TVA from Dox to X-5 to Mobius. It a shame they kinda squandered it by Killing off all of Dox's faction but hey we can't have everything.
Loki and Sylvie also had a really good scene/battle of wits. It's a little bit of a reread of their philosophical debates from the season 1 finale and episode 3 but all in all still really well executed. Honestly this scene is the first time I've really felt these two's chemistry all season. Tom Hiddleston and Sophia Di Martino probably did their best work together here. If I were to criticize anything about Sylvie this episode (and lets be real I love to winge) I think this episode kinda highlights the contrivance of the writing for Sylvie this season. She's always just where she needs to be for the plot to move (weather or not this makes sense for her character). She follows Loki to the TVA but the plot never works hard enough to fully justify that choice imo, even with the solid character exploration peppered through this ep.
Renslayer was a bit of a mixed bag. Again I do not like the romance overtones between her and Kang. But I like that this epiode established her and Miss Minutes wanting to take the TVA on their own without him. Miss Minutes even gets a standout moment in the end when she . These two have honestly been really great antagonistic forces Both Mbatha-Raw and Tara Strong give compelling performances. Which makes Rennslayers unceremonious pruning such a disappointment.
I will say the ending of this episode was exciting. Obviously loki and the gang aren't actually dead but so much of these episodes have been coasting on sci-fi gobbledygook and convenient last minute saves. it is interesting to see all the planning of the episode actually collapse.
8/10
Great
but still no
Fcuking idea what the
Hell is going on.
I know stuff is happening
but to what end.
Lots of moving parts
but really getting nowhere
fast.
at this point I'm not even
sure actually what the
ENDGAME
is.
Very confusing episode! Got a bit lost this time.
None of this plot makes any sense lol, scenes just happen because they have to get to the end point not because there is a building from scene to scene. Loki saying, hope is important, razing things down is easy, building them is hard, feels like the core of his character motivation but also he really hasn't earned saying any of this!!!
What in all the hells just happened?!
Everyone just… like… what?
I wanna see where… WHEN this picks up now, because I am one big question mark, followed by an exclamation mark.
"Annihilating is easy.
Razing things to the ground is easy.
Trying to fix, what's broken, is hard.
Hope is hard."
This homage to Jurassic Park
They definitely picked up the pace on this one.
Really hardcore scene, even if nothing is shown with Ravonna crushing everyone of Dox's faction to death and Miss Minutes definitely enjoying it, like the psychopath she is.
We discover so much about Ravonna's past and personality, turning her into a potential supervillain.
Same for Victor, discovering that he is the TVA, seeing the actual technologies, growing into a potential Kang.
So really didn't expect for both to be killed this fast. Kinda betting that the cliffhanger will reset some stuff that happened.
First episode had me believe that Sylvie had pruned Loki, and was on a mission to find it in time, turns out it's much simpler. That is both disappointing, because lazier and kind of a wasted suspense, but also better because less time spent on that.
Like I suspected the whole TVA knowledge is a paradox. But kinda weird that OB does not recognize Victor either as himself or a variant of He Who Remains. Did he never see him ? It seemed he was not memory wiped like the others, so he knew the TVA that had Victor's face.
As for the whole loom fixing, I cannot state how incredibly absurd it is. They look all happy when they turn a part into another and it fits. If the fact that your external container does fit with your machine is that good, I'be very worried on the quality of the machine itself... Same level as a toddler putting the cube shape in the cube hole. And then the plan is to take this entirely new piece, catapult it into the running machine, and somehow it will fix itself ?
If I had a nickel for every time an MCU character turned to spaghetti, I'd have three nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's just weird that it's happened three times.
As I guessed, it seems like Kang is the perfect character, because you can kill him at the end of every appearance and just keep bringing back new variants.
The writing of this season is so strong. Easily the best MCU show to-date
Are we supposed to know why there was 2 Lokis? Because I didn’t get that part
I can't believe we only have 2 episodes left. Really wished they had more...it'll be gone too quick imo.
Why this show is boring
Shout by Benedetto GrecoBlockedParent2023-10-27T19:25:30Z
A solid episode that advances the plot and finally makes you want to eagerly watch the next one.