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It's not very clear to me what this has to do with Orphan Black or its legacy, except for an adult Kira as the main character and a few guest appearances of Felix, while repeating some plot lines. Whereas Felix is in a terrible, terrible mask making it impossible for him to do any facial expressions, similar with Delphine's short stint later in the series.
The story is about printing human tissue mainly in form of organs but as that technology progresses to print entire humans as well for a very selfish reason of Kira. Printing, you know, like copying as in cloning. That's the connection between these two shows and I do not think this is sufficient enough or believable for that matter. Frankly, it doesn't add anything to the existing universe which is too bad.
But it can't really either because the original ended with an "everybody lived happily ever after" and this show wants to tell us otherwise regarding Kira.
The main villain is rather boring, his reasoning to be the villain is nonsense (from what we gather throughout) and very uninteresting. The actor himself has no gravitas either to his role and while the other roles are bad at worst, he is the only direct miscast in my opinion.
Speaking of, add in an odd casting. Personally, I don't mind Ritter (main), but Jogia (side character) has always been bad and his character is pointless later in the series. Whittaker's side char only enables our main character. Jones (guest appearances) was among the weakest characters in 19-2 (although her character story was..."good"), here she follows the same level of acting. Diamond (regular "guest appearance") has always been rather one dimensional and cardboard-y and can he stop flossing his damn teeth while driving? It's a disgusting character trait. It's not exactly scraping the bottom of the barrel, but it isn't that far away either.
Maslany on the other hand is nowhere to be seen, only name dropped a few times with lame excuses why none of her characters are in this. Can you imagine, as Sarah not a single phone call or message with Kira the entire season? That is just weird and very telling.
If you detach this whole show from the name Orphan Black it wouldn't even be that bad. Taking the name away wouldn't change anything in the story at all either. It has an interesting idea that isn't too far fetched from the relatively near future. The weird casting decisions mentioned above aside, the other characters in this are fine and there is a certain chemistry between them. While the writing isn't close to the level of OB (when it was good) and clearly has its issues, it isn't terrible. Quite the opposite, it can be enjoyable to watch despite its shortcomings.
The attachment to the name Orphan Black, however, is holding this show back from standing on its own as it sets expectations it cannot and doesn't want to uphold whatsoever. But then without the attachment you probably wouldn't watch it. So...it's marketing.
OB: E is a low budget, mediocre show with a good idea but cheap execution not worthy of the name Orphan Black, setting itself up for disappointment with the viewer.
Word of advice, listen to the podcast continuation of Orphan Black before watching this. It’ll make you less salty, and you will know character names that carry over.
Almost veers into teen drama early in the season but picks up by episode 5. It’s a great iteration on the OG Orphan Black series. I hope there’s more to come.
Actually, Krysten Ritter saved this mediocre AMC "all-family" production.
Orphan Black: Echoes (2023) - :heart:x7
This is not Orphan Black (2013). OB was much more fun and imaginative and had Tatiana Maslany giving us a master class in acting. This show is missing all of that - but is still a decent watch.
And as always humanity never learns - always doomed to repeat itself.
How I rate:
1-3 :heart: = seriously! don't waste your time
4-6 :heart: = you may or may not enjoy this
7-8 :heart: = I expect you will like this too
9-10 :heart: = movies and TV shows I really love!
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Skip this! just watch(or rewatch) the original. The writing is bad and feels very low budget overall
Though it's not on the same level as the original, it's an okay watch. There are also regular references to OB to whet the nostalgic appetite.
How has anyone watched this when it's not even released?
What is this? It already aired last year.
It was exciting to see the call backs to the original series and web play. The original ORPHAN BLACK is on my BEST LIST. The story is well written, both as fiction and in highlighting contemporary issues. The acting is stellar, Keeley Hawes and Kristin Ritter, wow! Amanda Fix, the young actress who plays Lucy’s teenage “printout”, Jules, is a great match for Kristen Ritter and a great performer. Wonderful cameos by the original cast. Great Canadian supporting cast. I’m tempted to reduce the rating for leaving us hanging in the season finale but I’ve got both fingers crossed for a second season. I give this series an 8 (eerily brilliant) out of 10.
Edit: The back half of the season gets WAY better, starting in episode 5.
There are still a few WTF moments where something is so irredeemably nonsensical, but they are far fewer and far between once the show picks up.
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I love Orphan Black. I love Krysten Ritter. I’m on episode 4, and it’s a rough watch. The writing in these first 4 episodes is Twilight-quality, and — aside from the two leads and a grown-up character from the previous show (spoilers) — much of the acting reminds me of a high school play.
I’m going to keep watching because this universe is interesting and it’s only 10 episodes, but I really hope the writing, acting, and direction level-up. I want this show to be as good as its source material. It isn’t (yet).
This was a horrible show. I really dug the original series, "Orphan Black," but this "Echoes" is the worst!
If you're going to adopt the name of the original series, you're inviting comparison. And this disappointment doesn't compare well at all.
The original had serious attention to detail, a skilled cast, and a compelling, unique story. Sadly, Echoes misses the mark on each of those primarily due to flat-out LAZY writing, but also an amateurish cast that couldn't make up for it.
Had this been a standalone show, not trying to shoehorn in awkward tie-ins, perhaps it could have been a more intriguing watch. Instead each episode just serves as a reminder that production these days is more concerned about quantity rather than quality.
Spoilers ahead
As an avid fan of the original series, which in my opinion perfectly balanced the drama and the occasional lightheartedness, this iteration really misses the target, if there even was a clear one to begin with. The storyline suddenly accelerated from the first half onwards, forcefully pushing the viewer along without leaving them time to even think and understand where the story was going.
Many questionable choices scattered all over (at least one per episode). Some of the cringiest? Xander shooting at chest height and the camera switching to Craig shot IN THE LEG, laying on the floor seemingly killed by it... Agent Tom being an all-round painfully idiotic character placed in there only to be hated... "Super villain" CEO Paul Darros's character development completely neglected. We only get a glimpse at his motivations being derived from the sister affected by an undefined illness... PJ as another very irritating second character... Felix wanting a child only to be able to buy them drugs?... Delphine speaking french out of nowhere to a black security agent due to... Assumptions about his nationality? Really? Another BIG one, Lucy standing next to Jules getting shot IN THE HEAD, instantly killed, and not even flinching one bit? That completely killed the immersion for me. What about, uhm, reviewing the footage before approving? Moreover, as other viewers mentioned, they could've included AT LEAST a call to/from Sarah, Cosima etc... instead of the lame excuses for their complete physical absence! Quite frustrating.
I would advise watching this show with low expectations. Unfortunately.
It started ok but it went downhill really fast!
After the revelation of who they are that pretty much ruined the show for me. Overcoming the fact that it was stupid for those printings, some of the last episodes have a bad story and funny scenes that seamed like the story was written by childrens.
The ending was bad and even for a fan of Jessica Jones please do not come up with a second season or change the writers from AI to humans.
When does this take place? The actress who plays Kira is almost 50, lol.
All 10 episodes of season one premiered on November 3, 2023, in Australia on Stan.
Why dont TraktTV use those play days?
Krystin Ritter, seriously? Mhmhm, hope they won't ruine the opthan black legacy
Shout by KCBlockedParent2024-03-01T08:44:57Z
The writing is terrible. The acting is terrible, a complete mockery of the original. I am so frustrated with the stupidity that I fast foreword past stupidity or pointless scenes, like the killers singing Celine Dion, just to get thru an episode. I'm trying to watch it all so I can hopefully retract and revise this, but the show is so bad, I don't know that I can push myself to watch to the end.