[7.9/10] Another winning episode. My favorite part of this one is how the audience’s sympathies shift with Charlie’s. (Or, at least, they do if you’re anything like me.)
At first, you love Irene and Joyce, even before you know their history. They are the bad girls of the nursing home which is, somehow, much cooler than it sounds. The two of them smoking weed, playing their boombox in the rec room, and otherwise causing trouble in a fairly safe and staid environment makes them adorable. I don’t know what it is about seniors acting like rebellious teenagers that's so much fun, but it’s infectious. So when you see their great friendship and mischievous attitude together, you’re nigh-instantly on their side.
By gum, they’re resourceful too! This may be the most clever (or at least elaborate) murder scheme we’ve gotten in the show so far. The combination of the cleverness of their zoo alibi and the vitals monitor switcheroo, and the physical dedication of Irene’s two story climb and enduring a taser, displays both their ingenuity and dedication to taking out this mysterious man.
So when Charlie bumps into them, it feels like kismet. They seem like old souls, meant to become pals. There’s something about their rebellious attitude and general resourcefulness that makes you think Charlie could become Irene and/or Joyce given another few decades. Their rapport is easy, and running gags like Charlie mining the lost and found add bits of joy to the proceedings.
The shit soon gets serious though. The notion of them as hippies who were not only imprisoned for thirty years for their youthful rebellion, but with Irene being maimed by a gunshot to the back while running away makes you not just like these women, but sympathize with them. Their story is a tragedy, and an injustice. I discerned pretty easily that Gabriel, their resistance movement’s leader, had sold them out. But hearing their story makes you understand why they wanted to kill him, and makes it seem like righteous vengeance for decades of their life and the use of Irene’s body parts.
What I didn’t peg, however, is that Gabriel was, depending on your point-of-view, the good guy in the situation. The twist that he wasn't just saving his own skin, but rather was trying to stop them from blowing up a bunch of teenagers, turns everything upside down, for the audience and for Charlie. Suddenly, Gabriel is the (at least more) sympathetic one, and these women seem like monsters, especially as their hits escalate. Charlie realizing, “Oh wait, you’re the assholes” at roughly the same time the viewer does is a cool move. I’d wondered if this would be the episode where Charlie allows the murder to go unsolved, but the change in the moral complexion of the situation means we stay on track here.
Speaking of which, I love the elements of this one apart from the main murder mystery. Charlie suddenly having a friend who owes her a favor in the FBI is a good chit for the show to cash in and a later date, and Simon Helberg plays well off of Natasha Lyonne as a more strait-laced agent of “the man” who nonetheless recognizes her instincts. Likewise, I appreciate Poker Face paying tribute to Murder She Wrote with Charlie consulting “The Fletchers”, a group of murder-mystery enthusiasts, to help piece together how Joyce and Irene might have done it.
Not for nothing, the performances here are absolutely excellent. Part of why you get on board with Irene and Joyce is the gleeful, lived-in dynamic the two display with one another. A big part of why you sympathize with them is the grave way they recount their time in the underground, and the horrors that befell them thanks to the feds. And even Gabriel’s monologue about not regretting what he did, but wanting their forgiveness is acted near-perfectly. Judith Light, S. Epatha Merkerson, and Reed Birney all kill it, if you’ll pardon the expression.
My one complaint is that things get a little cartoony from there. The two women deciding to blow up their irksome busybody of a fellow resident with her own instapot is a solid enough callback to them planning to use pressure cookers to bomb a model U.N. meeting. But the fight between the deadly duo and Charlie can't seem to find the right balance between intense and comical, and the exploding golf cart feels like a bridge too far. I get the idea that the show wants to convey the depths of their murderous streak here, but it comes as too much.
Still, this is one of the most enjoyable episodes of an already enjoyable show, with great performances to lead the way, and some truly memorable characters, even if they break Charlie’s and our hearts by the time the credits roll.
I think this is my favorite one so far and that’s largely because of the guest cast
That was incredibly hilarious. Brillant performance by everyone here!
In the 20 plus years of watching S. Epatha Merkerson, never have I ever seen her act as such a bad lady. Was really fun to see her in a completely different kind of role.
The first one I’m mixed on. It starts off really strong, has some great moments, and Joyce’s and Irene’s actresses are killer. But the politics are muddled, falling into trite MCU devices of ‘hand the revolutionaries do something cartoonishly bad to show ah! They are not the RIGHT kind of revolutionaries! Here’s a dorky FBI guy for Charlie to bond with instead. And if the last terrible thing wasn’t enough, let’s do ANOTHER terrible thing!’ It’s just hamfisted and lazy when the actresses are so good, the concept of the people Charlie bond with being the killers is so good, and it starts so strong. There’s still some great comedy, the two guests kill it, but there’s a much more interesting and nuanced story that could’ve been told here. As is this is exactly the type of episode right wing sites use to say Poker Face is a conservative power fantasy, actually, and you can kind of see their point.
Fun episode, especially the pervy guy. I just couldn’t wrap my head around the twist. I found it a little convenient that the writer said ‘oh by the way, they were gonna bomb a school.’ Was a little too… sudden, out of thin air. Not a good explanation for why they picked a school of all things. “The kids of the bourgeois” … really???
Otherwise really does convey the fun of the show. Though I wish they tied it to the main plot more, like in the second episode how Charlie was being chased.
Excellent once again. It's an easy watch, with plenty of laugh out loud moments. The fight scene was one of the TV scenes of the year so far just in its choreography and comic brutality.
That's some arm and upper body strength to climb those plants though...
The fight with the old ladies goes hard. Fucking brutal.
still get a chuckle every now and then remembering the indignant conviction with which Natasha delivers the line "I'm an IN-BETWEENER!"
"Watch a show where children think they invented f**king? No, thanks."
Absolutely brilliant episode, the best one so far. Such a stellar cast.
Post for self: I gave up on it at this point as it structure became too obvious. Somehow I wanted for the story to unfold more in line with episode 1, which i thought was terrific. I know the threat from her old boss is there but it is too low key in the subsequent episodes to really matter enough as a connection. If it gets a good score at the end of the season I may watch it. Possibly. I think Natasha is awesome, but not everything she is in is necessarily going to be valued.
Slight variation on the usual Poker Face story arc, in this case, with Charlie befriending the villainesses before their villainess acts, and then still not quite believing it, even when she can tell they're lying, and, that, they are in reality, cliched "former counter-revolutionaries" who see nothing wrong with helping those who disagree with them in shedding their mortal coils. Yes, their former (to quote Kim K, "big D energy") paramour Ben may have betrayed them to the Po Po, causing (nearly unrecognizable former OLTL alum) Judith Light's Irene to take a shotty load to the spinal column and the both of them long term stays in the Graybar Hotel, but, damn son, they felt it was fine to blow up a room full of high school kids to teach them a lesson about working for "the MAN", that is, again, anyone who disagreed with their politics. Ben noped the "F" out, pulled a Sammy the Bull, and exited stage left via a blacked out FBI van straight into into WITSEC.
Years later, feeling that he needed to make things right, and at least tell them what had REALLY happened, he shows up at their care home, unfortunately forgetting that "hell hath no fury...."and quickly finds himself starring in a real life episode of "Murder They Wrote". I wont go fully into the plot, as @Andrew Bloom has given his usual play by play synopsis below, but, suffice it to say the main antagonists deserved and eventually received a return engagement at the local Shawshank dormitory, as well as a pre registration azz whoopin' via Ms.Charlie Cale.
Kudos to Simon Helberg's turn as "Luca" (who, unlike his Brasi namesake, does NOT sleep with the fishes) but, does seem like kind of Agent one would hope to run into if ones life started to go pear shaped. Hopefully (seeing how impressed he was with Charlie) we will see him again, and if not, when this show runs it's course, perhaps Charlie can take him up on his offer, and if not outright joining, (owing to how she feels about cops) then perhaps a consulting gig, on occasion, as she feels the need...., for justice.
All in all a really good episode.
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Wow, this was the best so far. Over the top and slightly cartoonish / unreal as always, but her in a nursing home, it’s a great fit. And the cast here, wow.
I don’t know why, but every now and then I get the slightest “ pushing daisies” vibes, especially in this episode.
Terrific episode. S. Epatha Merkerson and Judith Light were a joy to watch.
Maybe this is a controversial opinion… but this was a moral dilemma for me! At the beginning we all were rooting for Irene and Joyce and at first I was like “Oh, it was just an attempt on a politician’s life no biggie, fck Gabriel!” But then it was like yeah Gabriel did the right thing but I still don’t know if I would have ratted them out -like Charlie did- cause they didn’t do that very horrible thing (thanks to Gabriel) and they spent years in prison and Irene was badly hurt so I would say it all evens itself out? like it’s their drama, it’s between them.
But obviously what they did to that other old lady was WRONG, way wrong, but that only happened because Charlie disrupted the balance of the environment.
Maybe this is a controversial opinion… but this was a moral dilemma for me! At the beginning we all were rooting for Irene and Joyce and at first I was like “Oh, it was just an attempt on a politician’s life no biggie, fck Gabriel!” But then it was like yeah Gabriel did the right thing but I still don’t know if I would have ratted them out -like Charlie did- cause they didn’t do that very horrible thing (thanks to Gabriel) and they spent years in prison and Irene was badly hurt so I would say it all evens itself out? like it’s their drama, it’s between them.
But obviously what they did to that other old lady was WRONG, way wrong, but that only happened because Charlie disrupted the balance of the environment.
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So, Charlie is basically a crime magnet walking around super glueing people's wounds :grin: