NO! Not Hemmer!! He was so cool.
Wow, it just keeps getting better. Trek has done its fair share of horror stories, some poor and some good, but this is probably most effective scare episode the franchise has done. I loved the way it riffed off moments from the core Alien trilogy and managed to do some properly unsettling things in the process. Besides from having a fantastic design, the moment the blue alien dude started having trouble breathing was a wonderfully staged sequence full of dread.
The Gorn looked great and felt vicious even as infants. I love how this series is setting them up. I also appreciate how we've come to understand La'an's character up to now and her own reactions to this situation.
The most interesting part here may have been Spock. While I'm not sure the actual execution of his emotional barriers dropping was, the effect of it on the character is certainly fascinating. Ethan Peck has been KILLING IT so far and is handling this stuff so well. It's an angle that works. I quite like that the franchise is acknowledging the more emotional Spock we saw in 'The Cage' and working to bridge things to the more stoic version we are familiar with.
And damn, the episode blindsided me with the death of Hemmer. I clocked those two new away team characters as dead from the moment we were introduced to them, but Hemmer was a real shock. Especially given that he seems to have become a fan favourite. What a way to go out too - compare it to the lacklustre death of Airiam over on Discovery, which had zero impact despite the character having been there since the start. This one hit hard, with the reactions of the rest of the crew really doing it justice too.
Cheezus did they just kill the most interesting character??
We need more non-human characters! Especially Andorians. Enough with the pink-skins!
The only 2 interesting characters are gone. What remains is average, dull and uninteresting. Not promising
Favorite episode so far I loved the alien stuff and it felt like horror at times. They made a huge mistake killing off the most interesting character what the hell
1 mission, 3 dead. The track record of Pike is getting bad. I wouldn't go with him lol
A creatively bankrupt episode where once again the creators throw stuff from other franchises into Star Trek.
It continues to be a muddled mess, not knowing what it is and ultimately becoming neither of what it attempts to be.
It's almost hilarious were it not they are destroying - or have destroyed - a franchise that was the staple of science fiction for over half a century.
Sad.
They always have to kill off my favorite character… :sob:
Felt like a season finale to be honest - would hate to lose La'an but can't care less about Hemmer... and please give Uhura some personality outside of angsting about her future and otherwise being perky. Otherwise, alien rip-off... wonder why the Gorn in TOS didn't try to use Kirk for procreation...
I really enjoyed the first few episodes of this show. I thought they finally made a Star Trek I'll keep watching! Nope. This season has devolved into some of the worst writing and acting on any Trek series I've ever watched.
is this retcon what TOS has done? on how 'easy' for kirk defeat gorn?
damn good episode after last weeks travesty, sad over Hemmer's death but not sorry to see La'an leave
Wow what a great episode. The whole season is fantastic. After the lovely last medieval episode we now got a great alien episode. Really loved it except for the slow start. And I‘ll really miss those two (Hemmer and La‘an)
What I don’t understand is why there are so many low ratings for last and this episode. Are there really Trekkies that don’t like it? Or are these „new Trekkies“ that only startet with Discovery and now want that same crap everywhere else?
Ohh Come On!
This is a lost cause. What is it with these writers. Do they only know copy and paste?
Another cold episode .. I even had to drop it half way and then try to stomach the rest of the episode in a second attempt.
Another cameo by Rebecca Romijn 'Una'. Another episode with the focal point on Uhura and another dinner get together in the Captain's quarters as big as the Bridge, What the F*** are they still washing dishes, in Water? And what's with the fireplace with logs??
A total ripoff of 'Alien' and what the hell was the thing over the coms to Spock 'You gotta draw it out, you have to get it angry', But he goes into Rage mode?? Are you kidding me?
I wish I had the time or the inclination to rip this whole thing to shreds - there were so many clangers in this apprentice writer garbage.
But it was at the end that really crashed it for me. Uhura walks slowly onto the Bridge - noone there mind you, but she looks over to the Comms panel and the Star Trek theme music rises up under the moment... Uhura is complete and now Star Trek is Star Trek with her finally in her place. I'm quite certain that the rating on these episodes are being bolstered to keep the rating score high. No way are real people rating this that high.
I'm so glad that The Orvile is on the same day - it's like chalk and cheese the difference. The quality of The Orville is in another Galaxy compared to the crapfest that is Star Trek today. I use to be a big Star Trek fan. The season finale thankfully is next week, once that's done, I'm done with this Shit Trek to the manure galaxy of Stink.
What was that? Alien born, transforming into geckos, spacemonster who fly high tech ships? What a crap. This series needs new writers and I would change some actors too.
Wow. Hemmer was easily becoming my favorite. Sad they killed off one of the only Alien main characters of the series.
I like it : alien + start trek
Very heavy Alien vibes here. Fits nonethenless very good in here which is kind of a surprise but a very nice one.
Would have been a great episode if they hadn't decided to pull the usual lazy ass Hollywood hack stunt and killed off one of the coolest characters.
Let’s mix Aliens and Alien3 and kill off one of the more interesting characters instead of one of the annoying brats. Smart move.
This was gloriously like one of those Dark Horse comic mashups from the late 90s, Robocop vs. Terminator and Batman vs Predator, etc. It's "Star Trek vs. Aliens" this time, and I dig how ST:SNW has taken the gorn - a clunky and somewhat silly rubber-suited antagonist from TOS, and made them a nightmare xenomorph clone with a hint of Predator mixed into the camera work and sound design. One could argue that it's derivative of Aliens (the little girl as Newt, Lt. Kirk as Hudson, Noonien-Singh as Ripley etc.), but it was a fun episode nonetheless and we can call it "inspiration."
Are Spock's sideburns painted on? They were much wider in the scene with Nurse Chapel...
I love this show and it’s characters so much and this episode encapsulated that in the best way possible. That made the sacrifice even more hard to watch. It was logical but so sad. Live long and prosper. :vulcan:
I definitely did not expect Hemmer’s death in this episode, as it seemed like it was closer to a classic TOS episode than something closer to the end of the Wrath of Khan.
I think it is nice that they started claiming other ships close to Constellation class as a different class but with similar designs, so that it makes possible that other ships in the Original Series are canonically different in some way. That was a nice touch.
Nearing the end of the season, and it does seem like they have set up characters so that next season becomes more episodic than this one was.
and, weren't there are no more currency in star trek?
what's with spock must buy someone a drink?
characters killings , a good trek does it
Stop! Hemmer time!
So you got rid of the best character La’an then one of the top next interesting characters another alien race which we need more of three killed in one mission thats not a good track record.
I did not expect that!
There is absolutely no way that this show was getting another season
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Great episode. I might need to do an Aliens marathon.