I have no idea what is happening. I enjoyed the first episode but I don't think it was anything special. a little more interesting near the end but probably a 6.5 from me
[7.4/10] Watchmen is not a carbon copy, rehash, or recapitulation of, well, Watchmen, which is to say that the most admirable thing about this introduction to the television series is that it is clearly of the world and characters brought to life on the comic book page by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, clearly indebted to their approach and their style, but is also clearly its own thing. In an age where franchise extensions are ubiquitous and even nominally original films and T.V. shows offer reheated versions of familiar tropes, that in and of itself is refreshing.
That’s not to say that “It’s Summer and We’re Running Out of Ice”, that mouthful of a title for an opening episode, doesn't take pains to remind you what its inspiration and source material is. The catch, and the thing that makes the premiere a little more admirable than other late sequels, is that those references and remembrances have a twist that reminds you of what came before while channeling it into what’s happening now.
So you have the chance to see the iconography of smiley face through a classroom baking demonstration. You have the same circular visual motifs in aerial shots that create the tableau of a clock face. With that, you have an ambient sound track of ticks to make the audience nervous, for clocks and bombs and more, at the same time some characters literally verbalize the onomatopoeia. You have police cruising around in something akin to Nite Owl’s ship. You have a crowd of Rorschach worshippers quoting his most famous speech from the comic. You have, as promised in the final pages of the original graphic novel, the legacy of a Robert Redford presidency. You have little baby squid falling from the sky and concerns that batteries from old Dr. Manhattan-technology cause cancer. If you’re a fan of the original Watchmen, there’s plenty to latch onto here.
But the trick is how those homages are used -- as a bridge to the current setting and the exploration of topics that were, at best, tangential to what the original Moore/Gibbons comic were exploring. “It’s Summer” ends in the same way as the first issue of Watchmen started, with a murder mystery over the untimely death of a member of the old guard, and his blood dripping down on his pin of choice, only now, the victim is a police sergeant, not a masked vigilante, and the blood is dripping down onto his police badge, not the iconic yellow expression that’s come to represent so much.
And therein lies the difference, and what makes Lindelof’s Watchmen admirable. It’s using the same iconography and approach to get at something different, something timely about the tenuous connection between law enforcement and race and justice in the same way that nuclear annihilation was timely in the 1980s. It represents a transformation of Moore and Gibbons approach, something that channels their spirit, without just following a cookie cutter roadmap or reconjuring the same conflict and themes in a shiny new box.
I like that approach. I like the themes that Lindelof and company are chewing on in this opening stanza. I like the character at the center of the narrative. I like the concept of police identities being hidden and every interaction rigorously authorized and recorded as something to wrestle with. I like the notion of the post-squid attack United States having to deal with Rorschach-worshipping, hard right, conspiracy theorizing domestic terrorists as the legacy of *Watchmen*s most famous character.
I am intrigued (if a bit apprehensive) about how the typical dynamics are mixed and inverted, with the conservative white vigilantes going after a police force that, in this opening episode at least, prominently features African Americans. I like the bizarre dichotomy between Nixon and Redford as opposing symbols on that axis. I like an aged, secluded Ozymandias clearly still haunted by the memory of Dr. Manhattan.
I just don’t love the execution of all of that just yet. This is HBO, so everything looks pretty damn good. There’s a slickness to the production, a fluidity to the action scenes, and an attention to detail in the cinematography and production design that let you know this is a high class production. There is style here and competence here, reflected in the quality of the shots, the construction of the world, and the performers enlisted to bring it all to life.
And yet there’s something oddly soulless about it all. For touching on such hot topics, and channeling such a well-felt story, “It’s Summer” struggles to feel like a real human story, rather than one of metaphors and abstractions finding convenient purchase in various characters. Pilots are tough, needing to introduce the major personalities, places, and conflicts of the story, and this one does it all ably, on top of drawing noticeable but not over the top connections to its inspiration. But there’s little here that grabs you with its realness instead of tapping you on the shoulder with its intriguing but strangely detached vibe.
Still, there’s enough here to chew on, and enough promise to keep coming back.# Watchmen the T.V. series gives away the game a bit in its 1921 silent film opening, giving us a cinematic throwback to match “Tales of the Black Freighter” from the comic. It’s a story about who can lay claim to being the arbiter of justice, who can rightfully wear a mask, and who can be treated and as worthy of enforcing the law in a time and place where racial tensions and disparities make that suspect. That’s what Lindelof and company want to get at in this, and their focus on the 1921 Tulsa ravaging of the black community that gets the son of one of the perpetrators hanged almost a century later, one who seems to have far more but overcome his father’s prejudices, it sets a tone for a show ready to touch a nerve, to challenge its audience, to get at the heart of current cultural divisions in this country.
It remains to be seen whether addressing those issues is enough to make up a compelling story, let alone one that carries the mantle of one of the definitive literary works of the twentieth century. Still, “It’s Summer” promises a series that takes its cues from the original Watchmen, but aims to emulate its spirit, not just its beats, which makes it worth seeing through beyond this first, solid but unspectacular outing.
I don’t understand why she didn’t take over the machine gun and shoot the plane.
Pretty boring. Even the action is dull.
A ton of world building in this and I'm very interested to see more.
Couldn't stand it. Probably I'll try to watch a couple more episodes, but that's it. I don't like the writing, the message is too tame and diluted for me. Not even in the same galaxy than Alan Moore's graphic novel. It doesn't have nothing to do with Watchmen, it's something else's agenda with the Watchmen name attached.
I was very excited for this, now I'm not. This needs to get better. Soon.
Wow. Never would have thought HBO would put out agenda based pandering garbage. They just took the title and some visuals from one thing and applied it to something completely different to lure suckers like me in. And taking one of the truest heroes in comic history in Rorshark and equating him to white supremacy for pure shock value is insanely disappointing. I'm really tempted to cancel HBO altogether. I always give new shows 3 episodes. Something miraculous needs to happen in the next 2 to prove my initial reactions wrong.
Wasn't a big fan of the unmotivated editing during some of the fight scenes, but that doesn't take away from a very strong pilot. The world building, the re-introduction, the updating to a universe finally back in the limelight is very exciting. Watchmen is one of my favorite pieces of literature and Lindelof is one of my favorite showrunners. This feels tailor-made for me and I could not be more excited about it.
This is a significant improvement over the dumpster fire that is the Snyder adaptation.
Well I do enjoy just being thrown into a parallel universe without explanation and having to put the pieces together.
Interesting start. Wonder how the little boy from then connects to the now somewhat less alive father. Some wrongs in the past probably. Surprising though to see it was that man. Although they had sat it up for when he was in front of the store.
I was unprepared. Even with all the praise it's been getting I was completely unprepared for the excellence that is Watchmen from the very first episode. Lately I've been watching Andromeda season 2 which is cheesy scifi that doesn't pretend to be anything else. I've been toggling between Evil and Prodigal Son neither of which in the maybe 13 episodes I've seen of them total can match what Watchmen has done in one episode.
I've read that this takes place after the events of the comics and although I have read the comics, I'm not comics-nerd enough to have memorized enough to be able to really confirm that in this single episode. I'm sure there are all sorts of Easter eggs that I'm missing. What I do see is an alternate history that does the same world building that Watchmen did. For all the talk about the Black Wall street scene it didn't feel as big as I expected it to be which is fine because it does give me an anchor point historically.
The jump to the present is when things really start to kick off though. The police wear masks. Some of these are uniform and some of them are customized giving some of them the appearance of being superheroes. But there's not a lot said about them. Squid rain from the sky regularly which was the 2nd strongest hint I saw linking the timeline to the narrative of the Moore books. The other of course being a multipart documentary the final part of which is about to air in the timeline of the show.
Regina King ... wow. I liked Regina King. I've liked her since 227. I've loved her in other roles Boyz in the Hood, Miss Congeniality 2, Jerry Maguire and plenty of other roles. All over the place in terms of character and she's a delight in all of them. Andrew Howard as Red Scare was equally surprising. I recognize him as the Russian gangster from the many roles in which he plays a Russian gangster including Limitless. Louis Gossett Jr is barely recognizable but I'm glad to see him. Don Johnson was pretty solid as the police chief. There's a great scene in The Legend of Korra where Korra is falling from an airship and rather than find a way to land safely Lin Beifong grabs her and uses her momentum to launch Korra back into the fight. It's a small scene that show Korra can be trusted and is valuable in a fight. There's also a scene where Angela has to go meet someone dangerous and she gives a gun to her husband to shoot anyone who isn't her and he accept it and her leaving alone without challenge and it's also an interesting scene that shows Angela is not to be played with.
The action is actually relatively light in this episode but you don't miss it because the narrative is so compelling. Just trying to figure out what's going on and how we got here is enough to ride for at least 3 episodes but I doubt Watchmen will keep us waiting this long.
I have no idea what's going on, but I like it. At the same time, it's a little annoying not knowing what's going on with something you're watching, especially when you're enjoying watching it at the same time. Best case scenario, I'll be loosely following along with what's going on while enjoying watching it immensely, like usual with most shows I'm watching, have watched, and will watch.
Definitely one of the best pilots I have ever seen.
Lots of world building and a ton of just plain weirdness. Many shows attempt this, but it ends up feeling like a pointless gimmick (::cough:: Lost ::cough::). This though is feeling like it's got a definite purpose and is headed somewhere. Intrigued to learn more and really hope it will deliver.
This episode was nonsensical.
At first I thought they were trying to do opposite world where the white guy listening to rap music gets pulled over by the black cop and the black couple adopting 3 white kids... but it couldn't be opposite race world because all the leadership in the police force were white.
Apparently some 50 year old woman has the strength & skill to beat the crap out of every grown man she comes across... maybe she has some yet to be revealed superpowers but if not I call bullshit.
WAY too much singing. I avoid musicals at all costs and this episode was like 40% musical.
The sex scene was gross. She's like 50 and I'm supposed to believe an attractive guy in his early 30s would go anywhere near that?
So far it seems like the show is built in Angela Abar's dream world.
I was not prepared for this show to likely become the thing I'm most psyched about in this surrounding two years; and yet here I am, witnessing all signs pointing to the rest of the season living up to that honor.
This was soo much better than the poor trailer for it originally had me expecting. Yes, I later learned more information — that Damon Lindelof, of LOST and The Leftovers, was behind it — eventually getting me more interested; but I certainly wasn't confident, given the trailer.
This has me remembering how good the movie actually was... I kind of lost track of my memories of how intense it was and how involved it's last act was...
Anywho, on to the real reason I had to post something.. Timepoint 59 mins and 59 seconds in the episode is what finally gave me what I was truly waiting to validate: that there was no way that the soundtrack could be so NIN without actually being NIN / Trent Reznor / Atticus Ross.
Excellent acting all around, and I’m enjoying the slow buildup. I’m curious to see how all the threads tie together, and am patient enough to wait several episodes to make all the connections. It almost feels the same as when your body knows a storm is coming…
Oh man, the old, boring, racism stuff. I'll guess this is not gonna be one of my favorite shows.
Really good episode. I am excited to see more. Its an interesting take on racism. Music is really good too.
Good first episode.
Be interesting to see where this show goes.
I think the white vs black aspect of the show. Is going to inflame an already tense situation in the world. While its these kinds of themes that make a show good, it also serves to stir up peoples anger.
I think the show has a LOT of potential.
The world building and tech is what interests me. The obvious political bias of the writers just pissed me off.
I’m a little confused that Rorschach has been taken and used as white supremacy symbol.
When I heard about this show coming out I was very excited as I am a big fan of Watchmen. Unfortunately I was very disappointed, the first episode didn't have anything interesting, the protagonists were almost as unlikable as the white supremacists they were trying to stop. From watching I assumed the the police going around covering their faces, and the main protagonist capturing and torturing people without evidence, would be made out to be just as bad as the people they fight, but this was never brought up in the first episode, an episode that's supposed to draw in viewers and lay out the story for the season.
Hopefully they address these issues later in the season, showing these main characters as the immoral authoritarians they are, and introducing a new group to deal with the criminals and the corrupt police force, but is it too late now that people have seen the first episode and tuned out? Maybe.
what was this garbage that I just wasted 1 hour watching. This show is as far from the movie as one could possibly get. Other than the few references this has nothing to do with the Doomsday time clock from The Watchmen movie. for a pilot or plot I give this episode a great big F. I am afraid i will have to force myself to watch another episode just to give this series a chance. Nothing made any sense in this episode. the world or the alternative America that we saw in the movie is one that was clear on its stance when it came to vigilantes. However we have the number of persons that had super powers both heroes and villains . In the series we have a lot of people running around in mask but absolutely no superheroes introduced in the first episode. Some naked guy typing at the chair seems to be our first introduction as to what they may try to develop into a villain. However there is more confusion than mystery. There is a somewhat forced or artificial connection to the characters in the series. At one point a plane has crashed and I realize that I didn't care whether the person in the wreckage survived or died. there is absolutely no character like Rorschach or Doctor Manhattan that connected with the audience in the way that we saw in the movie. This plot is very disappointing to say the least. One would think that HBO could or would have done better. they clearly need to give this series some love if this is how they're going to start it off.
Currently living in Yuma, the lettuce capital of the world. So got a bit of a giggle near the beginning.
It's a new series for me, did not quite understand what is happening. Feels weird, man.
Very heavy-handed, but at least it actually offers some counter-balance to the white-supremacy group by making the "good guys" into authoritarian fascists who are more like the white-supremacy group's hero than they'd like to think. Certainly the fact that one of their big conspiracy - that the US, or rather Veidt, has faked the squid attack - is actually of valid merit, thanks to Rorschach's journal. Intrigued, which is as much as you can hope for from a pilot I guess, but I'm also cautious and yet to fully hop on board.
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8/10.
Most of the points here go to the designers - absolutely wonderful costuming, sets, blocking: it feels like a unique universe with its own aesthetic that still pays homage to the comics. Otherwise, kind of what I expected for the pilot.
OMFG. Black Wallstreet our the gate?!?!
Enjoyed it even though the leftist bullshit agenda does my head in,all whites are evil and all that bullshit!
They just had to ruin a perfect opportunity for amazing series with the goid 'ol "white ppl are all racist" SHANE SHAME SHAME
They just had to turn it into an SJW bullshit
What is this garbage? Why is the show opening with democrats killing black poeple? I thought this comic took place in NYC in the 50s.
This was just intriguing enough to make me want to give it another episode or two, but I personally missed the characters from the graphic novel. Then again, I don't need something derived entirely from the original source, either. Points for Tim Blake Nelson and Don Johnson.
Awesome first Episode and superbly done Score.
I'm kinda bored actually.
Hmm... so far I like the movie better.
Shout by whos_ur_buddhaBlockedParent2019-10-21T02:23:28Z
Enjoyable first episode. Everything seems to be well done.