Noo, Max didn't have to die
All our suspicions about Other John & Other Jane are confirmed! They were always meant to kill John & Jane -- the first time just unexpectedly didn't work out.
Jane had one bullet left at the end but there were three shots fired when she confronted Other Jane outside the Panic Room, which sounds grim. But if they want another season, Jane got hold of Other Jane's gun, shot Other Jane, possibly Other John again.
John's mom knows more about life than any of these other people.
I'm still mad about Max.
The series wasn't quite what I expected. I thought it would be more focused on missions, but it turned out to be more about romance. However, I guess it was my fault for expecting something else.
I can see why everyone will feel differently about this show from love to hate. I liked the show but it was not perfect. There are lots of holes in the stories, but that is OK. I feel that they were picked to fail.
Every episode someone dies, something is funny, something is kind of makes it uncomfortable until it moves on, but I think this is part of the show’s signature.
With the ending there are so many possibilities I’m thinking of:
1) They live and remain on the run.
2) They live and maybe asked to come back. Going from High Risk to extreme High Risk for their ability to take out the previous Smiths with that position. “We have a couple’s job opening!”
4) They die and next season is a new Smiths couple. Maybe the exterminating Smiths so up and John has an eye patch. You can switch out Smiths until you have someone that people love for multiple seasons.
5) They live and get recruited to work for the rival organization. Maybe it can include Alana jealousy returns for the lady John was seeing that escaped. John can get better training to not tell anyone he is a spy.
Any option going forward We will learn a little more about the organization as time goes by.
There are a lot of holes, but you can use them to keep going. Maybe tighten up as things go on.
Okay. I'll give it this. Whatever my gripes with the series as a whole, it ended well. Let's talk about episodes 7 and 8. The final pairing.
Episode 7 starts with "Infidelity" and ends with the third strike and a separation between Jane and John. Michaela Coel has what is probably the best line of the series. Which is a shame because unlike say the best line in Ted Lasso it has nothing to do with the show. It's a throwaway line about how "We're not bonding you have a gun on me". It's brilliant. In a world where no one seems to care about telling anyone they are a spy, it makes it very confusing to care about things like when spies take people hostage. Oh sure this time she turned out to be a spy as well but in the next episode the same thing happens but not. The show very clearly doesn't have any conception of what a spy is. To the point where they get missions and pretend they have to keep a secret but then they ... don't. Ever. pretend or keep secrets. This was a solid episode where I liked the interplay between them because they had something to do while keeping up that interplay. Sort of like how YouTubers hold microphones no matter what type or style or situation because they need to do something with their hands. This show needs to do something with it's background plot or the interplay between the leads just feels weird and pointless.
Episode 8 Our finale of course is going to have a lot of big moments. You have your requisite dramatic irony as two character try to kill each other for the crime of trying to kill each other a crime neither committed. It goes on for way way way too long as an audience member but it's balanced well with all the action. It comes to a nice conclusion fight scene wise. We find out who was really pulling their strings as well as who was pulling THEIR strings. And then we have an excellent cliffhanger ending. Once again we have a spy taking someone to extreme levels of violence but this time it's not a spy posing as a civy it's an actual civy. In a show that played this sort of thing for laughs that could be funny but this show has a mise that's fairly serious but doesn't make sense. You can't do that. As a counter example I just watched Jason Statham's Beekeeper recently. That's a movie that's ostensibly about getting revenge on tech support scammers from someone who has never actually seen a tech support scam. What I actually think happened is because of the complexities of the optics and racism they needed to modify the villains so they made them into wall street traders. Which is fine because this is a fairly goofy movie. Contrast that to MMS where everything about it is goofy (Title, Concept, Synopsis, even the poster) except the actual episodes themselves. Those are played far too straight to take with humor. So when the FBI gets a case that involves oval office members and they tell the Secret Service to put it aside? I can take that in a movie where some dude gets strapped to a car and driven off a bridge. But when you hold a gun to a Sotheby's agent and threaten to kill them except "nah it's ok". That's a little harder to take. It's a good episode. Top 3 of the series even, but almost all of the good is due to finale shenanigans. Not literally all but almost all.
I'm perfectly willing to watch a second season. I naively believe now that we have a lot of the awkwardness out of the way there's no way the second season is going to have the same problems that plagued the first. We'll have a more focused story because there's not a lot of story floating. We have direct questions that need to be answered now. I actually need to rewatch the whole thing because I think there's a lot of ending interstitial I might have missed. The one in episode 7 foreshadows some of the discussion about Hihi in episode 8.
Couldn’t be more happy that the show is over. god damn, what a waste of time. 5/10 :poop:
it started well and ended in a mess
I enjoyed the series. I'm glad it wasn't solid action and always doing missions. Enjoyed the character development and how the relationship progressed. There was time gaps they tried to fill using the therapist and such so there was much we didn't see to truly see them pull apart.
I didn’t vibe with this!
I thought it was all about comedy and I laughed three times, with the “stray” cat, John talking to his mom multiple times a day, and the shady neighbor being just a realtor
But imo there was no comedy, no chemistry, no romance, the action/missions were pointless
Also killing the cat was very cruel, a scratch would’ve been enough
This chapter is embarrassing to watch, it makes you want to go in yourself, finish with them and end the torture of watching them fooling around, for me, the series is over.
ugh- time im never going to get back. the lack of chemistry just made it hard to believe they would be get that pissed off at each other in the heat of the moment. I really really wanted to like this series but if you've got an all out shootout, don't you think someone would call the cops in NYC? esp the neighbor? their therapist clearly needed to do MDMA assisted therapy from the get go!
It has it's moments and for me I found John and Jane quite likeable even though a lot of the writing had them doing and saying stupid things. The show really hinges on their ability to charm viewers no matter how pointless the action spy malarkey is.
Why do they keep calling the neighbour "good looking" and there isn't even a conversation about that when Paul Dano isn't what would typically pass for "good looking".
The Idea that he moved his mother to be near them and was still seeing her is completely absurd and nonsensical but I love that this is the acting debut of Donald Glover's mother Beverly Glover (was the character of Bev also named after her).
They clearly see the show as a very silly comedy. There are many points in the show where I think maybe they imagine that viewers will be rolling around with laughter. Such as where they are on the floor writhing around after being injected. It seemed like they thought they would be hilarious but it was just a vaguely amusing concept and did warrant the amount of time they spent on the gag
I really want to like this show as it has some good components but overall it's just ok, not as bad as all the failed aspects would lead you to think but just ok.
They Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid'd the finale! Loved it.
If you can get over the fact the show has little to do with the movie, then you might be able to enjoy it.
Lacking a certain level of excitement but enough to keep me interested
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Not sure what I think about this. First 4 episodes were great. Episode 5 it suddenly was a mess and there was only one person stealing the show (and not John and Jane, obviously) and all chemistry was gone.
Episode 6 and 7 it was asif I was watching an episode in As The World Turns or something. Did suddenly get a different showrunner on board or something? Disappointing crap.
The final episode seemed a bit as if part of it had a movie re-enactment. Not as-good as the movie and lacking that superb acting and stunning chemistry between Pitt and Jolie obviously - but... not so badly done.
Then everything just got messy, easy, predictable. Too obvious. Disappointing and lack of originality. I could have written the script. And no thats not a good thing.