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BlockedParent2021-08-14T11:40:18Z— updated 2021-08-28T05:47:39Z

That was a heavily loaded episode. But the writers already said loong beforehand they'd include these topics/are contemplating on how to deal with writing a cop show in these times, so no surprise there. They did a good job, especially not ending on a joke, even if the second episode sets itself free from the context of the precinct to be "fun" again even if it might be for just one episode. It's foremost a comedy after all and making fun inside the precinct is going to be difficult in this last season, given what's going on currently in this world. Completely ignoring it, in quite a diverse cop show no less that never shied away from addressing issues, would be irresponsible. Personally, I am looking forward how - if at all - they are going to deal with what this first episode set in motion in this challenging last season. This show never shied away from addressing the elephant in the room, never too subtle either. But now it's a problem for some?

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Blocked2021-08-14T23:59:16Z— updated 2021-08-28T05:51:26Z

@ds1 I've watched the show from day one and was mostly entertained by it and am perfectly fine with the staff/cast weaving in their opinions and real life topics from time to time but this episode was basically the "white guilt" version of producing and starring in a cop show. They "dealth with it" with little depth. To me it was just off-putting to have established characters as mouth pieces only to get the "OK" to continue. Utterly shallow especially considering the follow up episode.

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Blocked2021-08-15T10:06:54Z— updated 2021-08-28T05:56:55Z

@sp1ti

If you follow this show, even if only sporadically, it's not unlikely that you by now know that B99 might address George Floyd and other things. If you'd be curious enough even look it up if there's any "news" about this on the producer's side of things how they are going to write this show/season. If someone blindly thinks B99 is ignoring it, I would call that person rather naive.

Utterly shallow especially considering the follow up episode.

I disagree that it was shallow, though. They did cram a lot in one episode. I would agree on that, yes. But no matter how they'd open this season, there is no flawless way to go about it. However, it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't going to elaborate more in the upcoming episodes or that what they said in this first episode wasn't clear in what they wanted to say.

Not liking this episode doesn't make someone a white supremacist. I can see why someone might not like it. But claiming B99 is suddenly "too woke", or too politicial, or shallow dealing with this is twisting the narrative in exactly that direction.

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Blocked2021-08-15T18:09:30Z— updated 2021-08-28T05:57:35Z

@ds1 To me 144 episodes watched over 8 years is enough to get stumped by an episode that is tearing on the foundation of what the show built over that period. This isn't fake outrage, just disappointment in having a show ruined like that.

@sp1ti If one episode can "ruin a show", what's up with that?

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Blocked2021-08-16T15:03:41Z— updated 2021-08-28T05:58:43Z

@dtsouza Given your Jon Snow profile pic I'd imagine you saw this plenty before on episodes during the final GoT season (eg. 8x03). However I'll expand that to me this wasn't just because of clunky writing and preachiness but the fact that they decided to recontextualize the entire show. I brought up the "white guilt" comparison because this was lacking the nuance you'd expect to see from characters who are involved with the police force. Instead the writers were content with just having the main cast being "The Good Ones" and having a majority be painted as potentially corrupt and bad actors. Basically a big "we are sorry for continuing with our cop comedy but it's ok because 'we know'" checkbox for the price of putting the department in a bad light.

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