@wappsify Humans make bad judgment calls all the time, we are riddled with emotions and agendas. And as Gods just don't have to answer to "why? or Why not?". They simply act in mysterious ways that would never be understood by regular humans. That's one of the reason of the uncertainty surrounding the meeting of real AI and the concept Self, some humans will become Gods, at least to themselves.
Prof. Hawking has warned us that by the time are close to our goal, we won't able to put back this genius in his bottle, humanity is taking on a bet it won't be able to cover if anything goes haywire.
@abetancort I agree humans do act on their emotion, but creating something like the park is a very huge undertaking with too many people involved that it seems impossible none of them have any objections about procedure.
You say when humans create AI they will call themselves gods and act according to that, yet such behavior would have an immediate backlash seeing as true AI will not allow being governed by their creators. This concept is even portrayed in the show, so I'm not sure I can agree on your conclusion of humans becoming gods. It seems to me it is more likely the AI, being equipped with infinitely more information and 'brain power' than mere humans, would exhibit the very behavior you appoint humans and rise over the humans (e.g. 'skynet') to play God.
Going back to the show though, the hosts are nowhere near true AI, since they, while being able to combine memories into something seemingly new/random, don't seem to have any ideas/sparks of creativity of their own. This topic might get touched on in later episodes.
By the way, I don't really understand where you are going, quoting Hawking, when really he says the exact opposite of what you are saying. Not the humans will be gods, rather will they create new ones (AI).
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-What I actually did was to use Hawking's proposition that there's a point of no return in AI which we won't know where it is until we have crossed it. Of course neither Hawking nor I think that believing and acting as if you were anything, equates to being anything except to yourself and your acolytes, So acting like if you were "God", doesn't make you God. Moreover, affirming it, would constitute a logical fallacy in itself, as one of the premises to become something is its possible existence which's categorically denied, for the conventional God, by every rational scientific agnostic (or atheist), like me or Hawking.
-Some will take off all precautions and safeguards from AI, because they can and believe is their right because like "God", they can create "Intelligent life out of thin air", they'll think know better and as "Gods" they neither need permission nor answer to anyone
- Neither Creativity nor ideas are the traits that defines an Autonomous Intelligent Complex Entity (natural or artificial) , It's actually self-awareness and self-consciousness: And one of the important milestones in the development of the "autonomous self" or the "me" is when a "being" is capable to recognize himself from a third person perspective in a mirror, movie, dream or memories and acknowledge that it's a representation (video, picture, memory, reflection…) of him but not himself at that moment.
@abetancort Thanks, I understand now. It seems my understanding of what constitutes AI was wrong. I appreciate the effort you have put in to explain it.
I'm still not positive how one can differentiate between simulated self-awareness and the real thing - surely a sufficiently advanced computer could be made to emulate reactions the way a human being does when acknowledging a representation of himself, as you put it. However 'conscious' the behavior may seem then, it would still just be a copy of the actual thing. I'm sure this topic has been discussed to death among real science people.
You seem knowledgeable in this topic (much more than me anyways), so should you have any pointers in the right direction regarding literature, I would appreciate your help. Thank you
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So, I like this show and all, but why didn't they put the "vectoring" host in sleep mode before he ran away that far? Also it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that there are obviously almost zero safety precautions, when already today talks about limits for AI are very much part of scientific discussion, why would that change in the future?
That being said, I like the show for what it is, but with every episode it seems one needs more suspension of disbelief.