5.7/10. Someday, possibly in the near future, we’re going to get a gritty, documentary-style Batman film about a regular guy who dresses up like a bat and gets into ugly fist fights with criminals. And when that happens, we’ll turn around and laugh at how cheesy and unrealistic the Christopher Nolan Batman films seem now. Today’s cultural sensation is tomorrow’s hokey relic. So it goes.
But until that happens, it behooves us to look at Tim Burton’s 1989 Batman film, which comes off pretty corny and even rudimentary relative to the Dark Knight Trilogy, with some perspective. After the semi-grounded approach to the character in recent years, it seems odd that Burton’s film was praised for its serious approach to the source material. But contemporary critics were comparing it to William Dozer’s Batman ‘66 the overtly comedic, Adam West incarnation of the caped crusader. So while much of what Burton does in Batman feels broader and even goofier than the bat-stories people think of today, it’s important to keep it in the context of the wide spectrum of portrayals of the character and his world, whether on the page or the screen, that have taken place over the last eighty years.
Even with that thought in mind when approaching the film, it’s hard to reconcile it with the gut response to a film made almost three decades ago under very different standards and expectations for superhero films and blockbusters in general.
Some of what dates the film is easily forgivable. The effects are not up to today’s standards – CGI or no – with models or miniatures standing out fairly clearly, and even details as minor as Batman’s costume contribute to the “just playing dress up” vibe. Between the two-piece cowl, or the curtain drapery bit the Dark Knight does with his cape in an attempt to create an intimidating silhouette for the criminals he’s attacking, the entire enterprise feels chintzier than the polished (even overly polished) visuals of today.
And yet, that contributes to the feel of the film. If there’s one thing about the film that feels both entirely appropriate to the source material and yet also makes it harder for a modern day viewer to connect with the film, it’s the overall atmosphere of Batman. Burton embraces the cartoony, four-color roots of the genre in the visuals and overall tenor of the film, even when it includes more intense elements like gangland hits and dead parents.
Part of that comes from the film’s setting, which takes place in an interesting amalgam of the 1940s and the then-contemporary Reagan era. Certain elements of the film – like the cops and robbers motif and the production design as a whole place Batman in an old version of New York City that seemed to only exist on the silver screen in the first place. But things like Vicky Vale’s glasses or the breaks in the action for the Joker and his goons to dance to Prince songs, or even the particular energy of the Alexander Knox character, root the picture squarely in the late-eighties. It’s a blend that serves to make the film very specific, timeless, and dated all at once.
The set design contributes to that sense as well. It feels like Burton literally shot a movie with oversized play sets. Everything in Batman feels larger than life. The world of Gotham is a fantasy land, a theme park, that captures the unreality of Batman’s comic roots while also putting it at a remove from the audience. In effect, these choices make Burton’s Batman feels truest to those roots among the various Batman-related films, even as he departs from standard continuity and characterization. Even though Keaton’s Batman doesn’t feel pulled from the pages of Detective Comics, there’s a real sense of Burton taking the toys out of the toy box, moving them around his elegantly constructed play set, with all the bombast and silliness that goes with it.
The problem, then, is that little of it has any weight. Not every superhero movie needs to be a mediation on hope or morality or vigilantism, but Burton’s Batman comes out feeling like empty calories, with really only The Bat himself the only character who offers any sort of inner life. There’s fun to be had here – giant balloons and cartoony gadgets. But it doesn’t quite capture the pure sense of joy or investment that can come up in the lighter Marvel films of recent vintage. Burton’s Batman, instead, feels appropriately enough like a Saturday morning cartoon come to life, with the same commitment to whiz-bang action but also lack of depth.
The irony is that the actual Saturday morning cartoon inspired by Burton’s work on the screen, Batman: The Animated Series distills the character and his world down to a much more coherent and compelling version of the same ideas present here. It’s rare that the characters in Burton’s Batman feel like real people rather than four-color abstractions and broadly-sketched archetypes.
The peak of this is Jack Nicholson’s Joker. There are hints here and there at a unique conception of the Clown Prince of Crime. The most promising of them is the idea of Joker as a conceptual artist whose medium is homicide. It’s appropriately out there for the character, and accounts for the theatrical flair in his capers. But Burton’s Joker has little true motivation in the film beyond some quickly completed revenge. There’s reason to give Burton the benefit of the doubt, and take his Joker as the result of when someone with little empathy or control to begin with goes insane – unpredictable, almost random cruelty – but the bumpers of the film’s exaggerated atmosphere keep that idea from landing with any force.
That leaves Batman with a semi-incoherent antagonist, with a rushed origin story, and only Jack Nicholson’s charisma to save things. Nicholson doesn’t just chew the scenery here; he gnaws on it like a dog with a bone. That leads to some enjoyable line reads (“where does he get those wonderful toys” is still a nicely arch bit from Nicholson) and some amusing dances from the three-time Oscar winner, but mostly leads to the character feeling as though it lacks an anchor or a purpose beyond dutifully moving the conflict along and giving Nicholson the space to do a handful of off-the-wall, unconnected comic sketches. Nicholson’s Joker is over the top, as he should be, but also rudderless and showy, undercutting any menace or threat he’s supposed to pose.
That extends to the film’s biggest break with the source material – making the Joker, as a young Jack Napier, the one who killed Bruce Wayne’s parents. It creates a certain poetry and connects the hero and the villain in the way that so many stories, superhero or otherwise, like to. (See also: the first season of Netflix’s Luke Cage show.) But it doesn’t amount to much, beyond turning Batman from a crusader for justice into a bog-standard seeker of revenge.
It’s a shame because Keaton’s Batman, while hamstrung by some of the movie’s shortcomings, makes for an intriguing version of the character. He doesn’t brood exactly, but he seems quietly tortured nonetheless. It’s a choice keeps Keaton’s Batman from the taciturn glumness that overly dark modern adaptations have taken too far, but still portrays him as a man who doesn’t quite feels comfortable with who or what he is, shutting people out and working through his problems by skulking through the night and protecting other little boys whose parents wander into the wrong alley. Beyond the “wanna get nuts” interlude, it’s a nicely unshowy take on the character that succeeds in ways even the Nolan films struggled with at times.
It also gives the film its only real bit of emotional weight, especially Bruce/Batman’s relationship with Vicky Vale. Kim Basinger’s Vale is a thin, if noble for the time to put a female lead with some oomph into the narrative. She shows some modicum of cleverness and resourcefulness during the film, but still devolves into standard damsel-in-distress tropes that make her feel more like a prop than a vital part of the story. Still, the film never feels more human and real than in the moments when Bruce and Vicky are flirting, or worrying about one another, or shutting each other out. The film goes back and forth, but in their scenes set in and around Wayne Manor in particular, there’s a chemistry there that buoys the film, and gives another layer to Keaton’s performance as his Batman is only willing to let someone so far into his life.
There are other smaller elements that make the film enjoyable. Danny Elfman’s score is, to borrow the title of the film’s aborted sequel, thrillingly triumphant, with an operatic bombast that perfectly matches the tone of the film. On the other side of the coin, Michael Gough brings warmth and kindness to his portrayal of Bruce’s butler and confidant, Alfred Pennyworth, that helps give the movie what little emotional grounding it has. In between is the film’s palette, which is garish and at times even lurid appropriate to the newsprint origins, balancing the darkness of the setting with an exaggerated color scheme.
Still, Burton’s Batman can’t help but feel like a half-measure to the modern eye. Halfway between the tongue-in-cheek cheekiness of Dozier’s Batman ‘66 and the pot-boiling grit of Nolan’s Dark Knight Trilogy, Burton’s Batman can’t quite manage the balance of weight and whimsy that the animated series he inadvertently spawned nearly perfected. Instead, the film is a muddle of Batman’s sensibilities and Burton’s, presenting yet another one of Burton’s troubled loners, amid the painted cardboard world and cartoony figures, that leave the sense of a fingers-crossed adventure where everyone’s just playacting.
Batman is not quite a lark, not quite a thrill, and not quite an achievement. It’s a curiosity, an evolutionary step for the caped crusader on the silver screen, having not fully shed its previous form, and not yet worked out what the character might be. The film is a toy box come to life, with all the good and all the bad that the description conjures.
This movie felt like one of the greatest superhero movies of all time to me back when I was a kid. I mean, seriously it is pretty great, and by just 15 years ago or so, I'd say it was the best. When I watch it, I think of Six Flags. Just think about how big of a deal this movie was for the superhero genre. We had Superman, which had been great, but then it progressed into terrible after four films (Batman will get there too). Then this pumped it up, then Spiderman kicked off... and well you know where we are now.
Part of me really likes how classic comic booky it feels. I mean the Dark Knight franchise is better with being so realistic, but there's something kind of nice about it being over the top. Anyway, the acting is great both with Keaton and Nicholson. And Tim Burton cools his style down to work really well without being over the top. Yea, pretty good time.
The film that taught me "C'mon you gruesome son of a b****, come to me!" in kindergarten, and obviously caused multiple parent-teacher conferences.
There's no doubt that Tim Burton's "Batman" gave a whole new dignity to the character, and that all subsequent incarnations owe something to this film. But, at the same time, we can't really say it aged well. It was one of the first attempts to create something between a comic strip and something a little gloomier, but the writing is all over the place, and the direction is so clunky it hurts. While it’s definitely a must-watch if you are looking into the history of the character, I doubt it will have anything to offer to casual viewers.
However, the trench coat and wide-brimmed hat film noir atmosphere is perfect for Gotham City. In retrospect, it may lead you to believe that the clumsy staging and stiff acting were intended to channel the classic film noir vibes. Kim Basinger could have been the femme fatale, but other than crossing her legs in her first scene, she is the average superhero flick damsel in distress who yells and falls from various buildings.
Jack Nicholson's performance is the most confident, and he is indeed carrying the whole film. There are times he ends up being as campy as the Joker from Adam West TV show, but he is not the only one to blame. His performance works when Burton had managed to build tension around his character, but especially in the second half, he ends up being as quirky as he is harmless. His motivations are unclear, but that’s part of his anarchic and chaotic charm. In the end, it all resolves into a bizarre love triangle between him, Batman, and Vale.
The Caped Crusader is quite absent, and it’s clear that Burton didn’t care much about the original character. The fact that he purposedly kills already says it all. However, I liked how clumsy and out of place Bruce Waye feels while acting like a billionaire playboy. Burton suggests that Batman is just as much of a freak as Joker is, and the fact that the two characters caused the birth of each other’s second identities is not a coincidence. A concept that Burton was probably planning to expand in further movies, but that in this case gets only roughly sketched.
While Elfman’s score is still regarded as the best and most representative in the franchise, Prince’s original songs are atrocious…
Vastly underrated movie. Over the top and campy but I don’t mind that in a comic book superhero flick. Nicholson‘s Joker is iconic and for me personally it‘s the best Joker ever. Add that to a Prince soundtrack and you have the best superhero movie of the 80s.
Damn, it has been a long time since I last watched this film. I forgot just how good that score was. Chills during the opening credits. Unfortunately, the rest of the film hasn't held up very well.
Good:
-Gotham is amazing. The set design is perfect and portrays the captivating gothic city in a cartoony but plausible way. Same for cinematography and direction. (I recommend to buy the remastered bluray, it is a pleasure for the eye)
-Joker and Nicholson's performance. So good and in the second part so exuberant that it overshadow Batman and every other aspect of the film
-Iconic costumes and vehicles
-Great music score
Bad:
-This is a film more about Joker than Batman.
Batman is a poorly developed character in this film. He's always between being a caricature (like Joker) or a serious character but he doesn't shine in any aspect.
-Vicky Vale\Kim Basinger could have been an interesting character (like a dark lady for example, since this film has a noir vibe) instead it is simply a damsel in distress used only to provide a (weak) love story and a means to explore Batman psychology, failing to do so.
Bluray quote:
"You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?" - Joker
Best Batman, 2nd best Joker, definitely the best Batmobile...2nd only to the Dark Knight
After another viewing of Tim Burton's "Batman", I've come to the conclusion that it's a movie locked within the confines of its late 1980's culture. It was truly a big deal upon release and there was an overwhelming amount of hype surrounding it. Looking at it today under the light of the Nolan "Dark Knight" trilogy and some of the fine "Batman" animated films, it reveals itself as being horribly dated. It's absolutely a product of its time.
The rendering of Gotham is appealingly Burton-esque. Michael Keaton, while an odd choice for the title role, is fun to watch. Jack Nicholson's "Joker" is good and he's entertaining, but there's too much of Nicholson in it. The actor is so recognizable that you know you're watching Jack playing the Joker. Of course, that's pretty much how he is in every movie. I even thought that Kim Basinger was fine as Vicki Vale. Robert Wuhl as newspaper man Knox was annoying and unlikable.
Burton's "Batman" leans more toward "Batman 1966" than "The Dark Knight". That's not a bad thing. It's just that this movie doesn't hold up or live up to the pre-release hype that I remember.
Somewhat overshadowed by Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy, It is hard to remember what a huge blockbuster this was in 89. Watching it nearly 30 years later, the film is a triumph of production design and iconography with a musical score that has stood the test of time almost as much as Williams' Superman theme. It's easy to forget how controversial Keaton's casting was, but he is great as both Batman and Bruce Wayne. The pre digital effects may have aged a little and the action sequences were always fairly tame, but Burton utilises the sets, costumes and props to great effect, drenching the film in smoke and shadows and producing some iconic moments, from Batman's first and final appearance in the film, to the Batmobile racing through a forest and the Batplane soaring in silhouette across the moon all set to one of Elfman's best scores (Forget Prince, Danny Elfman is the true musical hero of this and the sequel). Still great fun!
With this film, Burton took superheroes to a new level. These are no longer B-class stories. By adding a great cast, we get modern motion picture, which deserves its place among other breakthrough productions.
Batman (1989) was bad and helped me to appreciate just how great the Dark Knight trilogy was for comic book movies. The plot was simply uninteresting and the action was dull. I wasn't a fan of the production design either, too much goddamn smoke everywhere, plus the special effects and sound effects were just so bad. I'm not entirely sure what people mean when they say the movie's "dark". Sure, aesthetically it is, but the actual content isn't really that dark. I guess everybody was just comparing it to Adam West. Keaton seemed so mechanical as Batman, and barely seemed to have any personality at all as Bruce Wayne. As if to compensate though, everybody else's acting was so over-the-top; this wasn't even just Jack Nicholson (though how anybody can think he's better than Heath Ledger is beyond me), everybody's performances were overly theatrical and exaggerated. The whole movie just lacked subtlety. The musical cues and camera movements were all so obvious. Did you see that facial expression he made? Did you notice this was a dramatic moment?? Did you?! It's like a movie reenactment of a stage production of Batman.
Funny how in 1992. Batman Returns was called a disappointing and overly dark sequel. Today it is called superior to this film. While I have warmed up to Batman Returns.
I think this film deserves much better reviews than Returns. Even though if you listen to Tim Burton’s commentary. He didn’t really even know why he had a final confrontation on top of the church.
Joker had no real game plan, unlike Ledger’s. I accept it as Joker just being crazy and truly heart broken that he is now a freak. Like he said, he is crying on the inside. He wants everyone else to be stuck with a silly grin on their face as well.
As for Joker’s obsession with Vicky Vale. It’s just to unnecessarily give Batman a damsel in distress. Unlike Batman 3-4 though, it takes Batman seriously. After Batman & Robin failed. At least WB realized that darker is better.
I was 5 when this came out. I remember watching Returns in theaters....I didn't see this until I owned the VHS. Which. Was. Amazing. There are 3 VHS tapes I wish I still had: Christmas Vacation, Top Gun, and Batman. Just for sentimental sake. Love this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
batman : 9 only for Joker
Total Nostalgia for me, I was 16 years old when Batman came out, I wish I could go back to my 16 year old self now and show him how many superhero movies would be coming out now
This was a film that set me on course for my love of movies, sitting in the theatre, and Danny Elfman's booming soundtrack, as the camera span round what would be a bat symbol....... the hairs on the back of my neck was standing on end!
Tim Burton created our image of Gotham, the character of this city, the production design is awesome, and then there is Jack Nicholson's performance, lets not get into that debate, who is better, just lets say Jack Nicholson is absolutely awesome. Micheal Keaton delivers, in an understated performance, and adding his comic touches to Bruce Wayne.
Yes the effects dont hold up that much now, but as I said at the start this is pure nostalgia for me, I absolutely love this version of Batman, and I believe it played an important part in superhero films, and also my own personal journey of loving films.
Theme- 6/10
Rewatchibility- 6.5/10
Acting- 7/10
Kinematography- 9/10
Time- 7.5/10
Total - 36/5 = 7.2
The music took me back to the lego batman game days. JackNicholson make up could have been better. He looks like Cesar Romero joker. But if he had Heath Ledger make up, ho would have looked terrifying. Overall, good movie
This might be hard to connect with if you can only look at Batman through the lens of the Bale, Affleck and Pattinson interpretations. It’s certainly more stylized and unapologetically comicbook-y, but to me that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Like, I don’t think it’s dated at all, it’s still pretty easy to get into if you have an appreciation for the pulpier side of Batman and Burton’s aesthetic. Sure, the action can be a little stiff occasionally, but there’s truly a timeless quality to the filmmaking and storytelling here. It perfectly captures the essence of the characters and the world, and because it isn’t afraid of the origins of the source material it does so in a way that still feels unique. For example, I love how this Joker is interpreted as a cartoonish version of a Scorsese mobster, and how exaggerated the world feels. Both Keaton and Nicholson deliver very entertaining performances (Nicholson has so many iconic moments in this), Burton is the perfect fit for this character (gothic worldbuilding; visual character development; the dark, atmospheric lighting hides the sillier attributes of the Batman costume) and Danny Elfman delivers an ear grabbing score. The Prince songs all suck, but they’re not really brought to the foreground at any point. I also don’t really care for the romance subplot, and the writing could’ve taken a little more risk, but overall this hasn’t lost much of its charm.
7/10
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Batman is not only one of the best Batman movies, but it's also by far the best of the original tetralogy. Jack Nicholson's performance as the Joker is nothing short of iconic, and his portrayal of the villain is still considered a classic among superhero movie performances. The film's dark and gritty tone perfectly captures the essence of the Batman comics, making it a classic of the genre. However, while Batman is an excellent film, it's hard to argue that the more recent Dark Knight series doesn't surpass it in terms of depth, complexity, and overall quality. With that being said, Batman is still a classic superhero movie and a must-see for anyone who loves the genre.
Old films are tough. Do you judge them based on modern standards, or do you attempt to judge them retroactively based on the standards of an era that you may not have even been alive during? I choose the former for two reasons: (1) the latter is basically just guesswork; and (2) I want my reviews to be helpful to a modern audience, so saying something akin to "this movie is really good (as long as you watched it back in 1989)", doesn't really fit the bill. So, with all of that said, how does Tim Burton's original Batman stack up in 2023? Well... it was better than Ant-Man Quantumania, so there's that.
But in all seriousness, this film is a mixed bag. The performances and story hold up surprisingly well, but the extremely dated special effects really drag down the more ambitious spectacle moments. In particular, everything with the bat wing was pretty rough, and even the scenes with the bat mobile were barely okay. I'd also point to several of the ambitious Gotham settings that look to be created through some combination of miniature or painted backdrop. I could be wrong on that, but whatever technology was used, it doesn't exactly hold up (though still better than some of Quantummania's CGI fest backdrops). Because the finale rested on a lot of this spectacle, the movie really didn't stick the landing for me. Luckily, the smaller scale production design and special effects don't suffer nearly as much from their age. I would also criticize the romance aspect of the film as underdeveloped and forced.
On the positive side, we've got Jack Nicholson, who brings this version of Joker to life in a way that really carries the movie. Michael Keaton is solid, though I feel like he isn't given nearly as much to work with.
Hadn't seen this in a long while. It was kinda surprising to realize it hasn't aged very well. I used to like it a lot in my early teens. It felt very cartoonish this time around, and not in a good way.
Very particular adaptation of the famous comic.
Part of the Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher Batman series (1989–1997).
Batman (1989) https://trakt.tv/movies/batman-1989
Batman Returns (1992) https://trakt.tv/movies/batman-returns-1992
Batman Forever (1995) https://trakt.tv/movies/batman-forever-1995
Batman & Robin (1997) https://trakt.tv/movies/batman-robin-1997
Tim Burton, Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton team up to revive the caped crusader after two decades of "bam, pow, sock" oversaturation. It often feels like a great, big batch of irrelevant ideas tossed into the same pot, but more than a few of those notions are good ones. Its bonafides check out, at least, and the film's tone is daring enough to effectively shift the conversation away from that campy Adam West TV series. Burton cites The Killing Joke as an influence, while Keaton studied The Dark Knight Returns before filming, both strikingly fresh renditions of the character at the time, which still remain well-regarded thirty years later.
Nicholson's Joker is polished and refined, steeped in fine art and literature, but also gleefully chaotic and wildly unpredictable. Jack's enthusiasm for the part is clear, and appropriately so, as he gets almost all the memorable lines (there are quite a few) and is given plenty of liberty to make the role his own. Batman himself is almost a secondary character, amidst all the police corruption, overnight love connections and puzzling machinations by his nemesis.
The scenes which actually feel like Tim Burton are the most interesting, as the director's strange visual sensibilities serve as a wonderful partner for the Joker's increasing lunacy, but most of the time I had the sense that he was on a leash. Whether that was at the mandate of Warner Brothers or something more self-imposed is anyone's guess. It was his first major studio effort, after all, and there was a lot on the line. Indecisive at times, uncertain at others, it's a rather shallow story that rides high on its loud fashion choices, brooding nature and raw, energetic spirit, not to mention a few irresistible performances. Fascinating as a statement, perhaps less so as a complete motion picture. It’s very much a product of the times.
Tim Burton’s ‘89 Batman is an exceptional film that perfectly captures the spirit and look of the comic genre. A gangster named Jack Napier rises up and becomes the super-villain Joker after a chemical accident and terrorizes Gotham City, and it’s up to the crime-fighting vigilante Batman to stop him. Both Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson (especially Nicholson) give brilliant performances that elevate the material. And, accompanying the film is a Danny Elfman score (which may be his finest work), and a Prince soundtrack that perfectly complement the scenes; enhancing the mood and the tone. Batman rejuvenated the comic genre and quickly became the standard-bearer for all others to live up to.
1989: 9/10
2019: 7/10
When this came out, it was a revelation. Also my first trip to the cinema ever - and it was the first '12' movie in the UK I believe. (I wasn't 12 or over!)
It's been usurped by the Nolans now. And it was much better than the previous superhero movies at that time (because Superman had shit the bed by then)
Holds a special place forme though as it rewrote the script for superhero films long before Nolan and Marvel came to town.
This movie was great in the 80s.
But right now this movie is completely boring and awful.
BTW Batman DOES kill in this movie...
Great movie possible the best of the Batman. Michael Keaton is so natural as Batman as though the character was built for him. Jack Nicholson is a great Joker. Great movie.
Oh my god, five minutes in and Batman is standing around with his arms raised as if he's Bela Lugosi or something, and it only gets more insane from here. In fact, I'd argue it is (as Barney Stinson would say) "all rise." None of the actors are convincing, the special effects are terrible, the dialogues are always either melodramatic or extremely flat, Batman kills at least a dozen people (including the Joker), and the action scenes shan't even be mentioned. Absolutely hilarious. 8/10.
Dark, foreboding and vastly entertaining, BATMAN changed superhero movies forever.
Tell me something, my friend. You ever dance with the evil in the pale moonlight?
Gretaest Batman movie. Nolan's Batan is not that good. Overated.
Used to love this movie. Now it just felt dated. Wonder if the Nolan movies will feel the same in 20 years.
The movie was quite comical however Michael Keaton's Batman stands above any other. Bale is no contest.
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This movie does not hold up. Do not re-watch unless you want disappointment in your past self.