So Much Anticipation For The Batman And Tried Keeping My Expectations Low - Simply Said It Was A Good Movie But Not A Batman Movie - Loved The Dark And Gritty Feel But No Matter What Batman Is A Super Hero Even If He Is A Tragic One - Robert Pattinson Should Have Stuck To Twilight
All I Can Say Is That Christian Bale Is Still The Best Batman & Christopher Nolan Knew Had To Make A Dark And Yet True Super Hero
For those people coming to this movie expecting another MCU or Nolan action fest you'll be disappointed. This movie is supposed to be a dark, raw, gritty representation of Batman where he's new and inexperienced and still finding his way. The source material such as the Long Halloween was exactly like this (there was event a 2 part animated movie last year).
You have to approach this movie more as an art house movie with a dark cinematic tone that walks you through the story. I mean there were also a lot of great action scenes woven in such as the car chase, the end fights and such to make it fairly strong on the action but that's not what THIS representation is supposed to be.
If you're an American with in inability to be away from your phone for 5 minutes or you have the attention span of a Gnat this isn't for you. If you want a Batman experienced and confident, this isn't for you. If you want Nolan style large, bright visuals.....this isn't for you.
If you want something raw, dark and gritty with a focus more on Batman coming to terms with things and batman learning to be "The greatest detective" then you might enjoy it.
For a lot of people saturated in the MCU blanket who can't enjoy a more drawn out noir film then skip this movie.
Pattinson is the best Batman ever.
he is so tortured, his emotions are sincere. He's the darkest and most precise batman out there.
the visuals and the soundtrack are incredible and take you into the thoughts of the character.
For me it’s a masterpiece.
The Worst Batman Movie of All Time
I just want to thank the cinema gods for this absolute dream. It feels like I passed out and when I came to I could remember a very good and satisfying Batman film.
It's alright but it's not as amazing as some people have made it out to be, with some people like AVGN saying that it has all the strengths of the Dark Knight and none of the weaknesses, i felt I needed to chime in a little.
The cinematography is a bit strange, there's a brown tint throughout most of the film that makes it look kind of ugly at times. The cast is alright for the most part with Zoe Kravitz being the only weak link, after all Catwoman is supposed to be beautiful, on the other hand Robert Pattison makes a great job and so does Paul Dano. Also, the movie is needlessly and tediously long.
Minor spoilers ahead: Batman is kind of stupid in this movie and so is commissioner Gordon, first Batman crashes out of nowhere in a crash that could easily have killed anyone and yet he only sustains minor injuries, it adds nothing to the plot and feels almost like comedic relief. Also, both Batman and Gordon chase the penguin because Batman is too stupid to figure out that "rat with wings" refers to him (world's greatest detective, everyone) and in the chase the penguin shoots at other cars including a gas truck, which should have left many dead let alone injured, just so when they finally catch him they don't even arrest him.
So... I had such high hopes for this movie. The trailer looked absolutely incredible.
I was so excited I went to an early access screening in IMAX, just to see it 2 days early!
But... not to be a Nolan fanboy, but the Dark Knight movies absolutely nailed the perfect balance between making Batman a cool, mysterious superhero, while also convincingly existing in the real world.
This movie works so hard to make Batman real that he is no longer interesting at all. The one time we see Batman try to fly in this film, he fails spectacularly and crashes HARD.
Want to see a realistic, gritty crime thriller like Zodiac? Watch Zodiac.
Want to see Batman? I recommend sticking with the Dark Knight trilogy.
I never in my life thought I’d enjoy watching a movie with that wanna be vampire punk…. But I must say, not bad! I really wanna see what the sequel will bring. But Zoe stole the show… that is the hottest Selina Kyle ever…. Wow
Lost all interest when Catwoman made a woke comment about white privilege. Wasn't good before that and turned it off after that comment. Don't waste your time, worst Batman movie to date...
im not a batman fan but WOW this movie its excellent i love it. battinson its just a GOD and ofc the riddler its the best villian ever !!!
I've just finished this movie and I seriously don't get the hype. It's a painfully slow three-hour movie. And I don't mean 'slow' as in 'the action takes a little while to get started', I mean 'slow' as in 'every single character moves and speaks unnaturally slowly'. I mean 'slow' as in 'perhaps my local cinema had an issue with their projectors and they had to show the movie at 0.5 speed'.
This is in many ways the exact movie that The Lego Batman Movie made fun of.
So, I can totally understand if this film reads like self-parody to some (I'll admit, the gravely film noir detective voice over was a bit much, it's been parodied to death at this point), but I'd argue that it's overall a refreshing take on the character in a well thought out story that includes some excellent performances. Paul Dano, Robert Pattinson and Zoe Kravitz all nail their roles.
It's a typical Matt Reeves blockbuster in every sense. It's grounded, serious, and there's a strong emphasis on drama/tension, and less on action. The production and style of this thing are phenomenal. Excellent cinematography, which should be Oscar nominated (but probably won't), music, production value, costumes, directing, etcetera. It's grim, it's dark, it's gritty, but it doesn't feel like it's directed by a 16 year old edgelord either. I love how the colour palette of this film is restricted to black, grey, orange and red. It's perfect, taking clear influences from David Fincher films, neo noir detectives and '70s paranoia thrillers (maybe a hint of Marvel Netflix as well). I hope it reinvents the wheel for many blockbusters to come.
Its biggest problem are the pacing and the characters. I'm fine with defending longer films, but this isn't a smooth 3 hour ride. It holds its cards very close to the chest during the first half, to the point where it's hard to engage with and can get kinda boring. It's a lot of set-up, mood and atmosphere, and not much else. It doesn't really hook you with its characters or the dramatic intrigue of the story, as I didn't find this slow moving mystery compelling enough by itself (partially because it doesn't really engage the audience; you can't solve it by yourself). There's not even that much action to compensate, besides a few quick beats here and there.
It also relies too much on the cultural iconography of Batman and Catwoman that already exists in our current zeitgeist, and while I might know those characters as cultural icons, I don't know this Batman, or this Catwoman. It eventually gets there though, as The Riddler and Catwoman get a lot more interesting in their own right as the film goes along, but it takes a long time. I love that this Riddler is essentially re-imagined to be a radicalized 4 Chan incel , which feels very relevant for today. Still, we know very little about Batman by the end of it (besides his brooding indie rockstar behavior), which is mostly due to the general lack of Bruce Wayne in the film. Batman cannot be interesting without a good Bruce Wayne accompanying him. That's nothing against Robert Pattinson, he's very good in it, but the writing for his character is very one note. As a film, it would've benefitted a lot from a deeper dive into his psyche, because the emotional arc of his character doesn't feel earned by the end.
Still, these issues could easily be fixed in a sequel, it's a good enough foundation for a series of great Batman films.
7/10
THIS IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE
Why? Why? Why is there another Batman movie? At this point, studios should be paying us money to go watch another remake of a movie. I really hope this movie flops so badly that they never think about making another Batman movie ever again (unless of course it's something more original).
Affleck left as Batman and DC fans on crack started a petition to get Zack Snyder to do it.... I will just watch Dark Knight for the 100000th time.
So many things don't make sense in this movie. I can't believe people actually like this movie. I also can't believe people like batman at all. I feel like they're just holding onto the fact that.. he's somewhat menacing. The "big" reveal of the batmobile, you can't even see it, he uses it... Once. What action scenes? When he punches 13 guys max the whole movie. How is he even a superhero? Everyone died, city was flooded.... What did he even do? He's not even a GREAT detective. Woah he noticed blood on the floor in the MIDDLE of the crime scene. Woah he uncovered a hidden rug AFTER a cop tells him what the weapons used for. Garbage. Only good that came out watching this was more proof that he's the worst, overrated, hyped "superhero".
I'm more an original Batman kind of guy, I think nobody has done it as well as Michael Keeton did it. I know there are a lot who would disagree, but Affleck as Batman was just so bad, Clooney as Batman was a total joke and Christian Bale himself is just an asshole and it comes out loud and clear in any movie he makes - he was the best since the original, but I still prefer the original.
I don't think they needed to shoehorn in a "white privilege" statement for the sake of being a social justice warrior, it was forced and obviously just for show and, to me, that is equally as racist as whomever says it believes white folks are. Basically, stating that white people have white privilege literally falls under the exact definition of racism.
It's good but no like the Chritopher Nolan's Trilogy. Poor in gadget and Gotam is not very differant than a normal city. The batmobil is ridiculous. The cast is accetable but no an very excellent interpretation, like Christian Bale, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Liam Neeson, Heath Ledger,... And the music except the main theme is very poor. The score by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard is more a very Batman's Theme.
Horrible! I lost my interest after 30 minutes. Since 30 years it's always the same story, over and over again. His parents died and he wants revenge. Yes, I can't stand DC but I'm still trying to find something to like, but there is nothing. Maybe one of the worst movies ever made. What an utter waste of time. Oh, and why are they whispering the whole time and turn the techno music up? Maybe to distract from the fact that there is no story? Seriously, to make a movie with no story, you have to be John Wick, then you're at least cool. Oh boy... Sooooooo bad!
I have wathced many Batman movies/animations. But this one is the most amatuer Batman and even I felt sorry for him. In my mind Batman has to know what's he is doing. Also the Batman is always one step ahead, this one is not.
absolute garbage, had to turn subs on the audio was so incomprehensible, pretentious nonsense, I had to turn off when he was fumbling around for a USB port. Bring back Clooney
i'm not going to rate it, because clearly i was not the intended audience for this movie. cinematically it is gold. pattinson's batman is also the most accurate to source material i've seen -
but this movie was so damn slow. i was so bored. it just felt unnecessarily long for no reason just so they could squeeze in all of the cinematic shots, and then the plot didn't make up for the wait.
this one wasn't for me.
What can I say about The Batman (2022)...... Watching this movie made me feel like I was 6 years old again and seeing Batman the Animated Series (1992) for the first time.....it was beautiful, visceral, intense and incredibly shot. Not only was it visually pleasing, but the soundtrack and score for this movie was fuckin mesmerizing, Michael Giacchino just wow. The thing is, this wasn't just an amazing Batman movie, it was an amazing movie in general. Gotham and all of it's desperate and fucked up inhabitants never felt this real. By the end of the movie I had the biggest smile on my face, I just wanted more... I wanted another mystery, another case....I was so sad for it to end. Matt Reeves & Greg Frasier thank you....this is the Batman we needed, this is the hope we needed. 10/10:popcorn::fire:Now excuse me while I reinstall Batman Arkham City:blush:
A decent action flick with some nice character design (i.e. the Riddler) and great casting. Storytelling is somewhat bland and if you've seen a few tropes and some cult classics this movie might fail to grab ahold of you. The 3 hour runtime does not feel justified (however still preferable to splitting up the movie in two parts as I feel this is the lesser of two evils). Better than the crap that Marvel churns out seemingly bi-monthly but that's a really low bar to pass.
The Dark Knight movies were so much better. The second Batman held up a thumb attached to a thumb drive and said “thumb drive” I was absolutely done with this movie. The score and cinematography are good and all, but that’s about all this film has going for it. The best thing in this film is knowing that the Riddler canonically records vertically on his phone. The acting was subpar at best.
Most of the comments left before mine were made before the movie even was made or released.
WARNING: This movie is very, very dark for DC. It is true to the original Batman comic books and the more recent gothic ones. It is not for kids. If you are thinking about taking kids under 13, go see it first. I don't think most parents want their kids seeing this.
Next, comic book geeks, been one since I was 9, will really appreciate this. It's amazingly true to the Kane Batman while keeping with the newer darker comics. DC has stepped up its movie game here. I didn't think Patterson was a good choice, but I was converted after 20-25 minutes in. I was a little disappointed in the Halle Berry lookalike. They usually change up the look of the Catwoman with any new Batman and don't repeat a look, but realized why at a very specific point in the movie. She's really good, so it works.
It's very long. but fast moving and just fantastic cinematography. The script is really good also but all the campiness that really started with the 60's television show is gone. There's nothing funny about this. It's action, it's drama, it's crime, it's disturbing, it's gritty, and it's dark, very dark. And it still maintains the constant that Batman is anti gun. Very few versions even mention this anymore.
Which brings me to the messages in there, very quick references to current time, without beating the horse about it. I haven't seen any bad reviews, but today is only the second night. If you're anti woke, if you really don't think you're racist but are (still say racist stuff. have been accused before, etc), this movie may trigger you. Two couples got up and left after the one scene and it was just one line. They didn't make a ruckus thankfully, maybe they did out in the concession area. Don't know, don't care. If you still go see it, well, keep your Karens in your head. Everyone else paid to see it also and don't care about what you think of one scene.
Better than Affleck's Batman for sure, but Nolan's remains the masterpiece by far.
Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight Trilogy was inspired by the gritty nihilism of The Long Halloween but The Batman fully captured it. The true future home of this film should be in between Thief and Manhunter in the Neo Noir Collection on The Criterion Channel instead of its inevitable dishonest placement in the DC hub on HBO Max next to Wonder Woman and Aquaman.
Wow! I'll definitely need to rewatch this, but after my first viewing I can say that this is easily in the top 2 Batman movies ever made. I'd need to rewatch both this and The Dark Knight to decide which is better, but man was this a good movie.
Pattinson's Batman is the best version of the character to date. He is absolutely fantastic, and there's so much depth to his performance, and it was amazing to finally get the world's greatest detective on screen! Though, I will say that I found his Bruce Wayne to be lacking in comparison to Affleck or Bale. Not that he was bad as Bruce, but it felt a little odd. Perhaps because we're used to seeing Bruce Wayne as a billionaire playboy rather than a reclusive and 'emo' type.
The craft behind this movie must be praised. Every frame is stunning. Easily the best looking Batman movie ever made - Reeves truly shines here.
I'll probably update this after a rewatch, but for now, this is at least a 9/10.
The comments here really are a fine example as to why Batman has the most toxic fanbase in existence.
This may very well have been my favorite Batman.
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This film has some of the most beautiful cinematography, lighting direction, picture texture, bokeh, implementation of lens flair, and best framing I've ever seen. Absolute cinema.
Some of the dialogue and some of the more traditional scoring diverged from the film's best at times, but Pattinson in this film is definitely my favorite Batman, and Serkis, despite not being in it as much as the rest of the main cast carried his part with excellence, as usual. It's hard to compete with Michelle Pfeifer, but I did like Kravitz's Selina Kyle. And goddamn did she wear the hell of those outfits. Jeffrey Wright actually got to be more than "concerned, overly earnest NBC series guy", and Paul Dano knocked it out of the park IMO, and it's the kind of performance that could easily go awry. Turturro, if anything, has gotten even better with age, and Colin Farrell was unrecognizable, and not just from the prosthetics. Great performance, and I usually dislike yelling in films (though mainly older films, since they didn't really seem to know how to present it), but it was a necessary part of the performances, and even had me laughing a few times. The humor was subtle and situational and drawn directly from the performances.
I will definitely come back to this one. It's one of the most gorgeous films I've ever seen, to the point that I'm gushing.
A strange twist of Batman story :thinking:
It was good but he was the most depressed batman ever.
The worst of the Batman. Christian Bale was "THE BATMAN". There is no Batman feeling with Robert. Dark night trilogy was the best. This one doesn't have the action, cinematography, or the story. Simply waste of time. I would rate 5/10.
Robert Pattinson is now my favourite Batman! The movie itself, It’s such a well detailed and intense story. The visuals are amazing, the acting is incredible for the main and side characters. I love the feeling of suspense everytime Batman appeared or lurking in the shadows, the soundtrack was huge towards that also.
Largest complaint for this one - why were they all whispering all the time? Otherwise, ho-hum addition to the verse. Nothing new here. Carry on.
Amazing Movie. I actually liked it a lot more than any other Batman movies.
However, as it is, I still wouldn't rate it as a 10/10 and that has a pretty petty reason. Batman is weak af in this movie. He barely can take a few punks and always takes hits. Image him fighting Superman in other movies/comics/games. Its just ridiculously weak. If SUperman would look at THIS Batman, "The Batman" would mealt away within a few nanoseconds.
But damn, the sytle, Music, Actors, Grittyness and nearly everthing else was top notch
The worst Batman ever. Pattinson just sucks.
Like most superhero pics, The Batman lacks character development, filling the time with an overcomplicated case to solve before taking the time to make us care about solving it. If you like Marvel films, I assume you'll like this and v.v.
A great Batman movie that actually portrays the Riddler as a legit threat to Batman. I also like how it's a different take on Batman compared to other movies.
The story: A-
The atmosphere and mood: A+
The supporting casting: B-
Pattinson and his approach to moping/brooding: D-
Way too long....take out all the bad stuff and it would be about an hour.
Speak up, people! Why is everyone either whispering or talking so low? I had to crank the volume up just for the dialogue. There must've been a sleeping baby nearby in every scene..
I was reticent on watching this one. Maybe for the actor, maybe for the trailer, but I was surprised.
It's gritty-nitty as his character should. The script/story is quite well written, and this Riddler has some moves far darker than other takes on other movies - it's refreshing and captivating.
Dark gritty start for The Batman
I loved the movie, but I also kept thinking about how absurd it'd be to see some dude dressed like this fighting crime in real life.
The Netflix version only seems to run 2 hours and thank dog because I could not have handled any more of that awful script, substandard acting and randomly out of place cinematography. Pretty sure most of the shots are just there for the commercials.
Think I prefer the Nolan films, but this was still very enjoyable.
The atmosphere of Gotham was palpable - really dreary and dark-looking.
The Batman relies upon a prior familiarity with the myth. This allows the viewer to jump right into the action but sacrifices an emotional connection to the characters. The story is gothic and brooding with great cinematography; however, it does feel congested and struggles to build tension due to its many sub-plots.
Visually, it's very impressive. Although it tends towards style over substance in some scenes, making the action hard to follow and lose its tension compared to if it had been shot more conventionally.
I don't know why, but I found the story extremely hard to follow until about the halfway mark when some of the characters just spell it all out for us, which is lazy, but was definitely helpful.
The biggest selling point of this movie is the vibe of the whole thing: it's very moody, it's very noir. It makes sense for Batman, even if it doesn't really feel like it fully pays off in this rendition. Maybe they'll be a next one...
Here’s my “Quick and Dirty Review” of “The Batman.” Wow. Great story, beautiful visuals, and some of the most haunting and melodic scoring I've heard in a long time. You know those folks that say "why can't they make good comic book movies? One's where you care about the good guys and hate the bad guys and it all seems to actually matter and it's not just some dumb exercise in grandstanding morons punching each other for two hours?" Show them this movie. It's haunting and thoughtful and moving. There's the absolute bare minimum of "modern day" tropes and groupthink -- instead, you get a vigilante detective trying to solve an escalating series of gruesome and public murders. Everyone is great in this: Kravitz, Paul Dano, Peter Sarsgaard, a completely unrecognizable Colin Ferrell and Turturro. Serkis as Alfred is haunted by his failure to protect Bruce Wayne's parents, while Jeffrey Wright's Lt. Gordon is apparently the only cop in town who's not on the payroll of some crime lord or syndicate. But my standout was Pattinson, formerly Mr. Shiny Vampire, who brings something new and vulnerable and a little unhinged to the Caped Crusader. Everything here feels fresh and new: a grungy but logical bat cave, a saucy and completely realistic batmobile, the way the Batman uses fear and his ability to be anywhere as tools in an attempt to keep a lid on the bubbling, simmering cesspool that is Gotham City. 9 out of 10, in my Top 5 for 2022.
Overall, a very nice take on Batman.
Some memorable scenes
1. Batman firing up the batmobile. Oh sweet lord!
2. The fight in darkness at 44 Below, with gunshots illuminating the scenes
3. Batman and Riddler meet at Arkham. Wonderful acting.
The movie follows essentially a Year One Batman. Batman is still learning that he must be both Bruce and the Batman to be able effective in Gotham City.
Riddler is an amazing villain in the movie, and is always one step ahead of everyone. There are also cameos of other villains as well, so it will be amazing to see this Batman Universe expand in the future.
The movie is dark, gritty, and unapologetic. Pattinson does a fantastic adaptation of the Caped Crusader. Overall an absolute masterpiece. Can’t wait to see where things go for the second entry.
I have to admit I went into this with pretty low expectations. I loved the Nolan movies, well, the first two anyway, and Robert Pattinson didn't strike me as the perfect choice for Batman. But it works. I was hooked by the opening sequence, and although the movie runs a bit too long in the end, I didn't lose interest.
Out of the almost 3 hours, there's perhaps 45min where we actually see Bruce without the mask. The movie's dark in tone and lighting, almost every scene is set at night. And almost every scene features Batman/Bruce, so what he knows we know as an audience - what he doesn't, we don't or have to guess at.
This time around a serial killer addresses Batman in letters at every crime scene - the victims? The city's high and mighty. And they all share a common thread, corruption, and, as it turns out, being part of a past investigation into a drugs kingpin. But the investigation soon turns more personal for Bruce.
Loved this twist in the storytelling. Whereas so far the Wayne family's portrayed as saints practically, in this rendition not so much. However, as torn and scarred as Bruce's portrayed, especially given that Alfred himself admits that he was no father figure to him, I'd have liked to see more of Bruce. The movie is so focused on the investigation, there's no deviation from it, no distractions like some kind of private/public life aside from being batman. Even the obligatory love interest is part of the investigation, and, in the end, sacrificed for continuing the work as batman even if that work shifts from pure vengeance to giving hope. What else does Bruce do? Why's vengeance even given as theme for Batman when in the end there's not much vengeance to be found in his actions? Pattinson, though, is great. He breathes life into the material he's given.
Overall, almost 3 hours, atmospheric, driven, great score that underlines the tension - I'd love to see more of this.
"The Batman" is the latest installment in the long-running series of films based on the DC Comics character of the same name. Directed by Matt Reeves and starring Robert Pattinson as the Dark Knight, the movie offers a fresh and intriguing take on the iconic character.
The movie tells the story of a young Bruce Wayne as he begins his journey to become the legendary crime-fighter known as Batman. The story is well-written, with a mix of mystery and intrigue that keeps the audience engaged throughout the film. Pattinson does a great job as the brooding and intense version of Batman, bringing a new layer of depth to the character that we haven't seen before. The supporting cast, including Zoë Kravitz as Catwoman and Paul Dano as the Riddler, also give strong performances.
The film is visually stunning, with incredible set design and special effects that transport the audience to the gritty streets of Gotham City. The action scenes are well choreographed and thrilling to watch. The score, composed by Michael Giacchino, is also a standout, adding to the overall atmosphere of the film.
One of the highlights of the film is how it explores the psychological and emotional side of Batman as he navigates his way through the corruption and crime that plagues Gotham City, it shows a more human side of the superhero making it more relatable.
However, the film isn't without its flaws. Some of the plot elements feel a bit convoluted and some of the subplots don't get as much attention as they could have. Also, the story is a little bit darker that some of the other Batman movies, this could be a pro or con depending on the preferences of the audience.
Overall, I would give "The Batman" an 8 out of 10. It's a fresh and exciting take on the iconic character that offers a new perspective on the hero's journey. It's a well-made film with a great cast and impressive visuals, although it has some narrative issues. Fans of the comics and the Batman character should definitely check it out.
Doesn’t push any boundaries. Sanitised violence. Adds nothing to franchise. Nolan super lite.
Pattinson looked bored af. the movie has some great idea but a terrible execution.
Another masterpiece, the film at the beginning is a bit confusing, but as it unfolds, it turns out to be a great plot, quite consistent.
The amazing thing about this movie is the old villains from previous ones.
The new actor who plays batman, married the character well. I look forward to the continuation of the plot.
For me, this was a breath of fresh air in the superhero genre.
Both Pattison and Dano delivered masterful performances capturing a dark and gritty Batmam that DC needed in a time full of over the top and over produced superhero movies.
The cinematography and score of this film are perfection and while long I didn't tire and was always kept engaged with the story.
I can only praise this film and can't wait to see what comes next.
10/10 - Outstanding film, a must see
Matt Reeves explores the detective side of Batman in DC’s latest relaunch of the franchise, The Batman. Batman finds himself drawn into a serial killer case when the killer leaves riddles addressed to him at the crime scenes. Starring Robert Pattinson, Jeffrey Wright, Zoë Kravitz, Colin Farrell, and Andy Serkis, the film has a strong cast; though Pattinson isn’t a particularly compelling Batman. And neither is the story for that matter. In fact, it’s needlessly convoluted. Also, the film’s near 3-hour length and slow pacing doesn’t help either. However, the fight scenes and chases are intense and exciting, and there are some interesting changes to the Batman mythology. Additionally, the score by Michael Giacchino is quite good, and helps to set a dark, noir-ish tone. The Batman is one of the weaker takes on the DC property, but is still entertaining.
very monotonous, I know Batman is the greatest detective in DC comics, but they had to make a movie that boring and why don't they use the other villains from his gallery, like Batman has one of the best villains galleries ever Super heroes.
When are you going to use Mr Freezer, Clay Face, Human Bat, Solomon Grundy po It's high time to get over the Nolan movies and move on and do something more different that captures the spirit of the 90's Bataman animated series
Watching it for first time. So far so good!!!
Worst of all the batman movies, Patterson's acting like all his movies is dry and lifeless warner has resorted to making superhero movies for a mature audience that takes away the shine of super heroes that kids carry forward. These movies have no future life in them and exist purely for the money they make now. Simply not worth watching and certainly not something you would be proud to own in your dvd/bluray collection.
I recommend the "The Batman Unmasked" fanedit.
pure garbage... DC and Marvel both on download spiral makes me sad .. terribly slow paced and too dark cannot even see properly whats happening horrible movie.. thankfully I didnt waste my money by watching it in theatre and till date I was thinking thor love and thunder was the worst movie of 2022
WTF have I just watched? This is the worst Batman movie ever. I'd rather watch Clooney again than this garbage!
Edit: Watched again today and have increased my rating a bit. But not by much. The film is better on second viewing but the sound quality is poor. I normally have films on 25-35 on my TV. This one had to be on 85 because everyone spoke really quietly. It was worse than trying to hear Tom Hardy as Bane!
Dark. Gritty. Action packed. Classic villains. Everything a Batman movie should be.
Too long movie, overall okay movie .
Didn’t like the design of Bruce Wayne at all
The best Batman movie, period.
I didn't expect anything. But I just can't separate it from Batman feom the 1990s and Nolan's Batman. This one is less of a superheroe and more of a detective. I liked that but I just can't pretend that is Batman for me. I missed the superheroe part. Still it is a good movie. And I enjoyed it.
HORRIBLE RENDITION OF BATMAN. The modern way they portray villains is a far stretch from the Batman's we know and love.
just very bad writing, unnecessarily slow pacing
To be honest, this is a really good movie. Hang on? So why did I only give it 2 out of 5 stars? Well, this is really personal but, to me, it is not a good Batman movie. I really had problems writing this review because it is a very good movie. I just did not like it as a Batman movie.
The movie is really dark, gritty and noir. Not really a problem. It works for some movies. But it is also quite slow at the beginning and the first quarter of the movie was actually boring. Remember, this is a three hour movie so a quarter is more than half an hour of “boringness”.
The “boringess” was broken up by a pretty cool car chase. Some people seem to not really like the batmobile and I have to say that it was not very inspired but it was not all bad either. Unfortunately the movie turned rather boring for a while again after that.
The movie tries to bring out more of the detective part of Batman than the previous movies, which is fine, but there is just too much moping around with Batman / Bruce Wayne walking around oozing sadness all around him.
Actually, this brings us to my main gripe with this movie. The choice of actor for the Batman is just wrong for me. He is more like a sad puppy than the Batman. The script that makes him mope around, have emotional outbreaks and, occasionally, being downright stupid like just staring dumbfounded when explosives go off in his face does not really help of course.
To me the Selina Kyle character had more charisma than the Batman, especially when the Batman was in his Bruce Wayne alter ego.
And I really, really dislike that twist about Bruce’s parents. That was such a lazy Hollywood writer hack thing to do just to create (unwanted) drama.
Then we have the Riddler. Compared to the charismatic villains that we have come to expect he is just a sad little psychopath with a bunch of equally sad fanatical internet followers.
Now, all of this would have worked great if it had been a movie about some, unspecified, vigilante. The movie is really well done. The detective story, the action (especially towards the end) and the noir setting would have worked great. Even at its three hour bloated length it would have been great although cut down to two hours or a bit more would have been even better. If it had not been a Batman movie!
An entertaining film carried by a new cast. Unfortunately, we don't learn much more in this Batman than what "The Dark Knight" trilogy has already brought. The film is too long to be catchy and carry the viewer to the end. Still, it's superior to any movie in the Marvel franchise.
Good movie great acting, but the movie was too long. Took a long time to get to conclude the point. If you have 3hrs to spare it is a MUST-WATCH.
Who would have thought I'd like emo rich kid Batman? But then again maybe this is how he's meant to be played?
This is meh. Watch once and never again. Robert carries this Batman meets CSI version. This is Batman Noir, do not come for the glits and glam its not there. Its grainy and a bit slow. Danny Devito will always be Oswald Copperpot, but Colin Farrell was refreshing.
The worst Batman to date.
It follows the new Joker take on the Gotham universe.
They give us a different batman, a batman that's purely driven by revenge "I'm vengeance" with a different approach to his origin story although the morals are there. No killing, no guns and a sense of honour.
Batman grows throughout the movie, finding constructive purpose and molding to what the city needs him to be.
The movie itself is well made, a noir take on a rotten city with a different batman with room to grow.
This said, the movie is slow, batman plays his part as a pawn in the Riddler's plan and doesn't solve or stop anything which is strange given the detective facet they show. Riddler's plan goes through with a forced ending producing Gotham's saviour which doesn't seem that well thought. The idea is there, the people start to believe and follow batman, their saviour, but considering batman didn't stop any of the Riddler's plan, it's a bit of a miss.
Three Riddler turns out great, if being a sociopath is what's intended.
The suit is cool and we are presented with an inventive but not futuristic batman. In every gun fight I wondered how the suit was so bullet proof but light and manoeuvrable enough for him to move and fight, jump, climb, etc. He builds the bat mobile and the bike and they are similar to regular vehicles, just enhanced. The car chase is brilliant and after penguins car gets turned over, the cinematography is excellent.
In the end, I believe we were spoiled by Bale's batman, which had the wits, the tools, the toys and gadgets that amount to a brilliant batman, along with excellent villains, something this one isn't after the first movie.
“They think I am hiding in the shadows, but I am the shadows.” – Batman
I really wanted to like this more than I did. I like the extremely gritty tone and the OST is also good, but something is missing from this. I also don't like emo Bruce Wayne, he's a bit much for my taste. The flamboyant genius is more my jam. It's fun to see a more Detective-minded Batman tho, but it bugs me that he doesn't actually solve anything. What's the point of watching Batman if he doesn't prevent or solve a crime? Riddlers' plan was executed almost perfectly and he let himself get arrested in the end. Everyone who was supposed to get killed by the Riddler got killed by him and he blew up the dam so hundreds (thousands?) more died. But hey, guess Batman got a few people to safety inside the flooded stadium. What a joke.
Okay. I've watched this again and I thought it was better. I hasten to add that I haven't changed my set-up (hardware) I may have tweaked some settings) and I could hear what was being said.Maybe it's my lugs or my setup, this sounds fucking awful. WHY IS EVERYONE WHISPERING?
It doesn't look that much better either. Robert Pattinson looks like death warmed up as Batman. Why is he grey? The Riddler looks like Rose West.The worst incarnation of Batman I've ever had the misfortune to watch.
Three hours is still a v-e-r-y l-o-n-g time particularly when it's slow burning.
Happy to give my score a wee bump up though.
This movie is over rated, it so boring
The Batman movie is a forgettable experience. Despite watching it, I don't remember much about the story, characters, or themes, which is a clear indication that it was not very good. Ultimately, the movie left no lasting impression, which is a sign of a subpar film.
One of the most boring action movies I have ever seen. Slow, but noisy. Plenty of scenes with angry-whisper dialogues. Truly not a movie for me
[HBO Max] The biggest riddler that the film poses is not the one proposed by The Riddler, but that of a Batman who questions his role as a hero, surrounded by an anti-hero's melancholy that Michael Giacchino makes too repetitive. Matt Reeves manages to update by adopting a more classic form of film noir, closer to "Chinatown" than a superhero movie, while Turturro/Farrell/Dano make up a glorious trio of antagonists.
This is so emo Batman lol
Third time I’ve watched this and it’s still damn good. Is it The Dark Knight? No, but it doesn’t need to be, nor does it want to be. It’s a magnificent version of Gotham where the progression of Pattinson’s Batman has so much room to develop more over the coming movies. I love the heavy emphasis on “Detective Batman”. It was a pleasant spin from the other movie adaptions in that regard. Not to mention, Paul Dano kills it in his role. Again, very excited to see where Matt Reeves takes this adaption over the coming movies. Will surely watch this one plenty more times.
Rating: 4.5/5 - 9/10 - Highly Recommend
Really dull, slow-moving and pointless.
“Fear is a tool. They think I’m hiding in the shadows but I am the shadows. I wish I could say that I’m making a difference but I don’t know. They might all roll together in a rush. Behind the mask. Sometimes in the morning, I have to push myself to remember everything that happened.”
Absolute cinema! Honestly, so incredible. The film-making from Matt Reeves is so excellent and well crafted, with such skill you forget you are watching a superhero movie. Dark, but with a slick style. The more I think about it, the more I love it. Just from the opening scene with the Riddler and Batman’s voice-over monologue while we see the ongoing crime in Gotham City, I knew we were all in for something spectacular.
The movie is three hours long, but I could watch a six-hour version of this.
Robert Pattinson as Bruce Wayne, but mostly Batman, is the perfect casting, and from day one of his castings, I knew he was going to bring it, and he did! He did some fantastic acting from his physicality and eyes that captured his thoughts and feelings. I liked his Batman voice, quiet and whispery. Not too forced like bale nor too advanced like Affleck. His Batman/Bruce Wayne, with no other way of describing it, is emo, but then again, Batman as a character is the definition of emo when you think about it. His long, messy, dark, and damp black hair hung over his face, giving his vision the equivalent of window blinders. His skin is as pale as a British introvert. He wears dark eyeliner under his Batman mask, and whenever he takes it off, the eyeliner smudges due to sweat and heat underneath the cowl. Whenever he is in the suit, he never breaks his detective’s eye, but when out of the suit, he cannot make eye contact with anyone. Before he appears, you hear his heavy footsteps on the rock-hard pavement, and then him slowly coming out of his darkness was just... goosebumps. The way he approaches criminals is no different from Jason Voorhees or Michael Myers.
There’s a thrilling car chase that ends with the vehicle flipped upside down and from the POV of the criminal, you see the black silhouette of what looks like a bat-man creation, with fire in the background from the aftermath of the chase, almost like IT came from hell, as it moves closer to the vehicle, and the way it moves its body is so unnatural. Of course, that scene is the Penguin and Batman car chase, with the POV from Penguin and the creation being Batman. It’s terrifying just reading that description with no context of the scene itself, and that’s why it’s so brilliant.
You get a lot of depth with this version, the unseen trauma. Pattinson is the most Batman that ever was and one of the best.
Also, his Batmobile is a killer!
Zoë Kravitz as Selina Kyle/Catwoman was another stand-out and the heart of the movie. I liked her characterization of a thick-skinned yet vulnerable and feminine. The scenes between her and Pattinson were the best part of the movie, as their chemistry was on point. Her character could’ve easily fit in a Brian De Palma movie.
Jeffrey Wright as Jim Gordon is so good in the role, and the dynamic duo between him and Pattinson brought some surprising comedic moments. While this Gordon isn’t quite the police commissioner, we see a different side to the character; the no-nonsense type that’s devoted.
Paul Dano as the Riddler was a mixture of creepiness but still maintains the sinister sense of humour of the troubled intellectual character. I also liked his costume, as it felt homemade and fit this type of movie. This version of the Riddler is inspired by the Zodiac killer, a real-life Riddler who sent out ciphers that were hard to crack. Fifty years after the case, and only last year that one of the ciphers was cracked. In the same vein as the Zodiac, he taunts the police and leaves none of his DNA at the crime scene. So, it makes this version of the character scary because it's something that could happen in real life. This version of Riddler is straight-up Jigsaw.
Andy Serkis isn't in the movie that much, but he delivers a solid portrayal of the trustworthy Alfred. The relationship between him and Bruce is "icy", a tragic withdrawn situation that I hope mends in the future. So icy that if these two ever crossed paths in a hallway, things would be awkward. However, there is a beautiful and moving scene, which takes place in a hospital, after Alfred stains injuries after a failed bomb attack from the Riddler, and during that scene where these two finally talk because, despite the rocky relationship, Bruce still cares for him. He thought that he mastered his fear, but at that moment, he feared that he lost him. A touching scene and Serkis was brilliant in it.
Colin Farrell as the Penguin is honestly one of the best transformations in movie history, and yes, of all time. I mean, it's been three months since the movie came out, and I still can’t believe that’s him. He is unrecognizable not only for the make-up but his voice as well. The make-up artist behind this work did an incredible job. Both Farrell and the make-up artist deserve high praise here.
John Turturro as Falcone, who rarely got shown in the marketing, is a surprise standout here and has not got enough credit. What a presence he brings to the movie, and I liked his take on the ruthless mobster.
Peter Saarsgard is another actor that isn’t getting talked about because he acts the hell out of the role of the corrupt Gil Colson. The scene with the bomb collar was intense, and Saarsgard was great in it. It felt like a scene from a “Saw” movie where the villain is in complete control. I mean, there's not a single weak actor in this movie.
I loved the score from Michael Giacchino; very epic, Gothic, but jampacked with emotion. There is some distinct character work with compelling themes from Batman, Riddler, and Catwoman, especially from the bat himself, whose score perfectly captures the tragedy and the heroism. His sounds commanding, yet unresolved, almost like Bruce Wayne’s trauma. Catwoman’s theme sounds like a classic noir film when the mysterious woman enters the detective’s office late at night. And the Riddler shares a couple of familiarity with Batman’s theme, in terms of suspense, build-up, and a grand feel to it. Although with an ominous and mysterious tone to it.
I liked how detailed the movie was, whether that’s characterization, acting, writing, directing, etc. I can tell that everyone who worked on this movie truly cared and put a lot of thought into every scene, and I love that so much. I bet on a re-watch there will be new things to pick up on.
The cinematography is the best part of the movie. No other superhero movie in recent times has looked this well-crafted, so captivating, with its incredible atmosphere, darkness, and lighting. Cinematographer Greg Frasier keeps outdoing himself.
Everything else from a technical standpoint is outstanding. The sound work is tremendous and adds to the immersion. The production design, costume, editing, and direction were all mwah!
I liked how dirty and grounded Gotham City looked, where everything is so cramped together, how it was always raining in this city, or how everything always looks so damp. This Gotham feels diseased, old yet new at the same time. Even the day scenes looked like a stormy evening. Despite that, that does not take away its strange beauty.
The movie is more character-driven than anything else, diving into the detective side. Sure, there is action, which is great, but it’s character moments that stuck with me the most. I must admit the third act made me teary-eyed. It was a beautiful scene that involved character growth. While the movie can be dark, brutal, and at times wickedly funny, on the other hand, there is also a sense of hope. Because despite the bleakness of this world, here you have a broken and flawed man who endured all the pain, trauma, and rage, and finally had the strength to put aside it and put himself out there for those who suffer.
So yeah, I liked the movie a lot.
Overall rating: HE IS VEGENECE!
a work of art, not the most incredibles, but still a work of art. the whole essence of batman is here, the atmosphere of gotham everything is as it should be. the story can be a little confusing and generally overly long, but it's all very well tied together. I think the movie tends to be too realistic, like the flight suit scene, hey I want to see batman opening his cape and floating around gotham, but that's ok. the setting is incredible, this old gotham mixed with a darker version of times square is what we imagine these days when we talk about gotham. the fights are amazing, I felt like I was playing the "arkham" trilogy I can't explain it very well, it looks like he's really fighting the henchmen and not just making moves and the guys falling to the ground. was too scared to become a disappointment like everything coming from heroes lately but not honestly my second favorite batman movie who complained about robert pattinson when chose him, he must be biting with rage.
I'm sorry, but I hate this Batman installment. So little of it rang true to the character, Pattinson is easily the worst Batman ever, he's just creepy. And honestly, 2 hours too long. If they trimmed out all the drama and slow play nonsense you would have a great first episode for a series. Of course, special effects are great, costumes are great, but oh boy is the slow and tedious.
A pass for me.
Dark, Omnious and Technically brilliant Robert Pattinson-Matt Reeves' union is a gritty & gripping noir and not your usual superhero flick.
Matt Reeves's The Batman is an excessively dark, grim mystery thriller rather being a usual superhero flick. With enormous technical prowess in Cinematography and sound design, Matt leaves no stoned unturned in those aspects. The performances of Robert, Zoe Kravitz are sharp and on point and the little showtime that Paul Dano got was the show-stealer. The film though takes time to get you involved, feels stretched at times. The action is as real as it can get and action choreography is brilliant too. The world of Batman is reinvented with Robert and opens the world to a new era of Gotham's favorite Vigilante. If you like dark, serious, no-nonsense superhero flicks then The Batman will make you happy.
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I'm about halfway through this incarnation of the Batman character. And I've mixed feelings. I'll try to elaborate without spoilers. Concept and cinematography I like.. dark wet and gothicesque in parts. Colin Farrell was unrecognizable as the penguin, great performance. Batmobile bit too madmax dystopia for my taste .. script and editing make the pace of parts of the movie seem forced and slow in places. Riddler I don't like..comes off as too chaotic in my opinion. Pattinson makes a good batman, especially in dialogue but his walk lacks the authority and presence .. but on the whole a better movie than what's been done to the star wars franchise.. edit: one line spoiled some dialogue .. Hollywood please stop bringing race into it... if don't you want racism, stop highlighting it !! This goes BOTH ways it's not ok no matter whose mouth it spews from.
Great batmobile.. good villain too..its better than a 7 but just not 8 great
A very important entry in the Paul Danoverse, but the other actors are pretty good, too.
Terrible movie. Please rewatch The Dark Knight instead of wasting time on this crap.
The movie is so unnecessarily long. It got me bored for the most part. Background music was also either non-existent or disappointing. Robert Pattinson felt pale compared to the previous actors (i.e. Christian Bale, Ben Affleck). I had recently watched the Dark Knight trilogy and man that got me excited. Disappointed overall.
Review by Pradipa PRBlockedParent2022-03-05T16:12:41Z
A potentially great film being held hostage by its PG-13 rating and its messy, all over the places screenwriting.
By PG-13 I don't simply mean its visuals/goriness, but most importantly its dialogues, themes, and storytelling it tries to raise. Let me explain.
First, the dialogues.
The film opens with murder and Batman narrating the city's anxious mood. We get a glimpse of noir in this scene, but it soon falls flat due to a very uninteresting, plain, forgettable choice of words Batman used in his narration. Mind you, this is not a jab at Pattinson - Pattinson delivered it nicely. But there is no emotion in his line of words - there is no adjectives, there is no strong feelings about how he regards the city full of its criminals.
Here's a line from the opening scene. "Two years of night has turned me to a nocturnal animal. I must choose my targets carefully. It's a big city. I can't be everywhere. But they don't know where I am. When that light hits the sky, it's not just a call. It's a warning to them. Fear... is a tool. They think I am hiding in the shadows. Watching. Waiting to strike. I am the shadows." Okay? Cool. But sounds like something from a cartoon. What does that tell us about you, Batman?
Compare this to a similar scene uttered by Rorschach in Watchmen. "The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood. And when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. All those liberals and intellectuals, smooth talkers... Beneath me, this awful city, it screams like an abattoir full of retarded children, and the night reeks of fornication and bad consciences." You can say that Rorschach is extremely edgy (he is), but from that line alone we can tell his hatred towards the city, and even more so: his perspective, his philosophy that guides him to conduct his life and do what he does.
Rorschach's choice of words is sometimes verbose, but he is always expletive and at times graphic, making it clear to the audience what kind of person he is. Batman in this film does not. His words are always very safe, very carefully chosen, which strikes as an odd contrast to Pattinson's tortured portrayal of Batman as someone with a seemingly pent up anger. His choice of words is very PG-13 so that the kids can understand what Batman is trying to convey.
And this is not only in the opening scene. Throughout the film, the dialogues are written very plainly forgettable. It almost feels like the characters are having those conversations just to move the plot forward. Like that one encounter between Batman and Catwoman/Selina when she broke into the house to steal the passport or when Selina asked to finish off the "rat". They flow very oddly unnatural, as if those conversations are written to make them "trailer-able" (and the scenes indeed do appear on the trailer).
Almost in all crucial plot points the writers feel the need to have the characters to describe what has happened, or to explictly say what they are feeling - like almost every Gordon's scene in crime scene, or Selina's scene when she's speaking to Batman. It feels like the writers feel that the actors' expression just can't cut it and the audience has to be spoonfed with dialogues; almost like they're writing for kids.
Second, the storytelling.
Despite being a film about vengeance-fueled Batman (I actually like that cool "I'm vengeance" line) we don't get to see him actually being in full "vengeance" mode. Still in the opening we see Batman punching some thugs around. That looks a little bit painful but then the thugs seem to be fit enough to run away and Batman let them be. Then in the middle of the film we see Batman does something similar to mafias. Same, he just knocked them down but there's nothing really overboard with that. Then eventually in the car chase scene with the Penguin, Batman seem to be on "full rage mode", but over... what? He was just talking to Penguin a moment ago. The car chase scene itself is a bit pointless if not only to show off the Batmobile. And Batman did nothing to the Penguin after, just a normal questioning, not even harsher than Bale's Batman did to Heath's Joker in The Dark Knight - not in "'batshit insane' cop" mode as Penguin put it.
Batman's actions look very much apprehensive and controlled. Nothing too outrageous. Again, at odds with Pattinson's portrayal that seem to be full of anger; he's supposed to be really angry but somehow he still does not let his anger take the best of him. The only one time he went a bit overboard that shocked other characters is when he kept punching a villain near the end of the film. But even then it's not because his anger; it's because he injected some kind of drug (I guess some adrenaline shot). A very safe way to drop a parent-friendly message that "drug is bad, it can change you" in a PG-13 film.
And all that supposed anger... we don't get to see why he is angry and where his anger is directed at. Compare this to Arthur Fleck in Joker where it is clear as sky why Arthur would behave the way the does in the film. I mean we know his parents' death troubled him, but it's barely even discussed, not even in brief moments with Alfred (except in one that supposedly "shocking" moment). So... where's your vengeance, Mr. Vengeance? And what the hell are you vengeancing on?
Speaking of "shocking" moment... this is about the supposed Wayne family's involvement in the city's criminal affairs that has been teased early in the film. Its revelation was very anticlimactic: the supposed motive and the way it ended up the way it is, all very childish. If the film wanted the Wayne to be a "bad person", there's a lot of bads that a billionaire can do: tax evasion, blood diamond, funding illegal arms trade, fending off unions, hell, they can even do it the way the Waynes in Joker did it: hints of sexual abuses. But no, it has to be some bloody murder again, and all for a very trivial reason of "publicity". As if the film has to make it clear to the kids: "hey this guy's bad because he killed someone!" Which COULD work if the film puts makes taking someone's life has a very serious consequence. But it just pales to the serial killing The Riddler has done.
Even more anticlimactic considering how Bruce Wayne attempted to find a resolve in this matter only takes less than a 5 minute scene! It all involves only a bit of dialogues which boils down to how Thomas Wayne has a good reason to do so. Bruce somehow is convinced with that and has a change of heart instantly, making him looks very gullible.
And of course the ending is very weak and disappointing. First, Riddler's final show directly contradicts his initial goal to expose and destroy the corrupt elites. What he did instead is making the lives of the poor more difficult, very oxymoron for someone supposed to be as smart as him.
Second, the way Batman just ended up being "vengeance brings nothing and I should save people more than hurting people" does not get enough development to have him to say that in the end. Again - where's your vengeance? And how did you come to such character development if nothing is being developed on? And let's not get to how it's a very safe take against crime and corruption that closely resembles Disney's moralistic pandering in Marvel Cinematic Universe film.
Last, the visuals.
I'm not strictly speaking about gore, though that also factors in the discussion. The film sets this up as a film about hunting down a serial killer. But the film barely shows how cruel The Riddler can be to his victims. Again, back to the opening scene: we get it, Riddler killed the guy, but it does not look painful at all as it looks Riddler just knocked him twice. The sound design is very lacking that it does not seem what The Riddler done was conducted very painfully. Riddler then threw away his murder weapon, but we barely see blood. Yet when Gordon arrived to the crime scene, he described the victim as being struck multiple times with blood all over. What?
Similarly, when Riddler forced another victim to wear a bomb in his neck. The situation got pretty tense, but when the bomb eventually blow off, we just got some very small explosion like a small barrel just exploded, not a human being! I mean I'm not saying we need a gory explosion with head chopped off like in The Boys, but it does not look like what would happen if someone's head got blown off. Similarly when another character got almost blown off by a bomb - there's no burnt scar at all.
Why the hell are they setting up those possibly gory deaths and scars if they're not going to show how severe and painful these are? At least not the result - we don't need to see blood splattered everywhere - just how painful the process is. Sound design and acting of the actors (incl. twitching, for example) would've helped a lot even we don't see the gore, like what James Franco did in The 127 Hours or Hugh Jackman in Logan. In this film there's almost no tense at all resulting from those.
I'm not saying this film is terrible.
The acting, given the limited script they had, is excellent. Pattinson did his best, so did Paul Dano (always likes him as a villain), Zoe Kravitz, and the rest. Cinematography is fantastic; the lighting, angle, everything here is very great that makes a couple of very good trailers - perhaps one could even say that the whole film trades off coherency for making the scenes "trailer-able". The music is iconic, although with an almost decent music directing. And I guess this detective Batman is a fresh breath of air.
But all that does not make the movie good as in the end it's still all over the places and very PG-13.
Especially not with the 3 hours runtime where many scenes feel like a The Walking Dead filler episode.
If you're expecting a Batman film with similar gritty, tone to The Dark Knight trilogy or Joker, this film is not for you. But if you only want a live-action cartoon like pre-Nolan Batmans or The Long Halloween detective-style film, well, I guess you can be satisfied with this one.