Mrs. Robinson: Would you like me to seduce you?
The writing, directing, cinematography, &c. was all fantastic. Just one problem: every single character is PURE. TRASH.
What a ride....This is a perfect example of what art can generate if one puts soul and wit into it.
Why I didn't to watch it before? It's C I N E M A.
Hoffman was 30 on that movie and Anne Bancroft 36, the age difference wasn't very much actually, but they were going for a 20 teenager vs a 40 lady
This would have been such a great movie if only the lead character wasn't so stiff. I don't know if it's just me, or if it's just this particular performance that didn't work, but it really hurt the film, in my opinion.
Stylistically it's great, the soundtrack is fabulous and that ending is iconic. I don't regret watching it, but I'm left feeling disappointed.
What a disappointment.
I was really looking forward to finally seeing it.
It caught me off guard on several sides.
The whole movie felt like seeing a 3 year old in the body of an adult: always asking banal questions, repetitive and insistent.
Hoffman nevrotic acting feels way overemphasized, as if an embryonic and raw shadow of some of his great later works.
His inner parable feels scattered, incoherent but not as that of someone finding his own way or fighting society's imposed role over him or struggles, just a sloppish imitation of what it might be representing it: he passes from the indolence of the party to overexcitement and clumsiness in the hotel, to frustration, to despair.
And while I clearly appreciate a wide range of expressions and feelings from an actor/actress, they have to match some sort of interior journey depicted, having a meaning – unless the character has some motive to act in so many different ways.
Even Simon and Garfunkel's wonderful and melodic soundtrack doesn't seem to match the story's development, mood of the scenes nor character's spiritual journey or state in that moment.
The main question though is - why? Why do many of the characters make those choices or actions? There doesn't feel to be any coherence nor explanation (expressed in words or actions).
Why does Mrs. Robinson decides to seduce Ben? You're immediately thrown in her attempt 2 minutes in, and at first it seems like that of a bored person trying to shake things up. And it goes this way for good part of their affair, with the idea thrown in of Ben trying to get more out of it as he asks questions in the bed. That also feels forced as he presents it as a pedantic kid asking "but why" to any of the follow up explanations to the original question, rather than a vulnerable man questioning the current relationship he's in. Here we get the whole explanation from Mrs. Robinson on her actions, which indeed goes into what most viewers might have thought: an unhappy marriage, the spouses sleeping in separate bedrooms. And here we see some fragility from both late in the sequence, in one of the best passages of the movie. We also see her disillusionment over herself and Braddock as well, which turns to jealousy as she sees him starting to date Elaine - all in 5 minutes time. And Benjamin? Seems like Tobey Maguire's bad-guy-Spider-Man: forced, out of character, bad written. Sunglasses, he takes Elaine no a strip club for their date and as she cries and runs out he kisses her and voilà, she gets back on board. Couldn't it be shown in a more credible sequence?
Then, second date the following day which brings to the reveal of the affair and consequent flight of husband and daughter.
We can then forecast Ben's attempt to win Elaine's back: it indeed happens, as he tells his parents they are getting married. Before having solved the situation, before having talked to her, not even depicted as a wishful thinking, hurt man trying to convince himself he'll get her: no, just as a joke thrown there.
He then follows her around and when he reaches her on the bus, she acts a little resented but nothing more as they get to the zoo. She then decides to go to his room (why then and not on the bus or zoo?) only to get a 10 words explanation on the affair, scream, get calm and smile at the landlord when he comes, sitting on the bed sipping water, passing then to forgive Ben as he packs up with no apparent inner transaction of the character.
Ben keeps then insisting on his marriage proposal in a sitcom-suspense-of-belief series of scenes, with Elaine pretending like everything's fine and even the classic "screaming in the library" one.
"Are we getting married tomorrow?"
"No"
"The day after tomorrow?"
sums up the whole sequence.
And while Elaine is comprehensibly uncertain on what to do, she still passes from refusing his insistence to kissing him after the library scene, with no apparent constancy of sentiments.
Husband's scene, then.
No introduction, tense silence, tiredeness or any of the feelings you might imagine in a man in such a situation:
"Do you want to tell me why.. you did it?". Like that, out of the blue.
Short dialogue,
"... we are getting divorced"
"But why??" Ben asks. Why, would YOU ask, he asks such a question.
"..We might just as well have been shaking hands" he proceeds to explain his several-nights-long-affair to the husband.
After the exchange finishes and Mr. Robinson storms off shouting, Ben decides to ask for some change to the baffled landlord who overheard the final insults on the stairs. Way to underline the gravity, intensity of the moment and the husband's shuttered feelings.
Elaine then leaves school out of the blue, says she loves Ben but it would never work out. All this after having passed from hating him, to forgiveness, to almost accepting his proposals. Abandoning her whole life and career prospects.
Ben then breaches the Robinson's property and has the first exchange with Mrs. Robinson after the big reveal of the affair. He then blames her for Elaine's lack of cooperation in seeing him (!) and in 30 seconds he's gone as the police arrives. No confrontation, no clash or reconciliation or whatever you may have expected, if you expected some exchange of some kind to happen between them in such an intense reencounter.
We then hear for the first time the iconic “Mrs. Robinson”, which gets interrupted for Ben’s inquiries at Carl’s frat, only to resume shortly after – again not really matching the mood nor scene.
Some more rushed inquiries.
Remember, all of this happened suddenly – with no build up.
Ben crashes Elaine’s wedding with poor Carl, then with an improbable screaming and pounding on the glass next to the pipe organ, he manages to get the bride’s attention as she has just kissed the groom… and just like that, by screaming “Elaine”, after her note, the rollercoster of unexplained forgiveness and redention, some close-ups of the Robinsons and the groom not acting in any way but grinding their teeth at the camera, Ben fighting – in order: the father of the bride and a whole bunch of attendees at the same time, fending them off with a cross - … they finally run away in a municipal bus.
The end.
It’s complicated to judge a movie almost 55 years later, but the elements of a story well developed remain ageless in my opinion, and I just couldn’t find them here even remotely.
Anne Bancroft is captivating in the role of the seducing middle aged married woman and Dustin Hoffman is spectacular as well. The plot would have made this movie a decent romantic comedy/ drama, had it not been for literally the last minute of this movie which skyrockets it to a rightful place amongst the classics. Some characters feel paper thin but that's probably the point. Still relevant to this day, with subtle messages that cut deep and a timeless soundtrack.
Anne Bancroft, the original cougar. In the role Ava Gardner regrets turning down.
One of the few "classics" that I think holds up.
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The term "classic" usually implies something special, oftentimes controversial, that not everyone can relate to. That is certainly true with The Graduate.
While the music is legendary and Hoffmans performance beyond doubt the story is rather weak. Of course, I must add, that from a different era this might look different, too. But I have my doubts I would have liked this 50 years ago - had I lived then. And the classic label is attached much later anyway.
At the bottom it is the story of a rich kid that doesn't know what do to with his live, or is afraid of the future as he puts it, that out of boredom and possible infatuation begins a romance with an older women. Then, out of the blue, falls in love with her daughter who, after finding out he hit on her mother, resents him. Of course the mother doesn't want him either at that point so he decides to stalk on the daughter who is supposed to marry someone else but isn't sure whom she wants. At the end Hoffmans character apears at the wedding and steels the bride and they both ran away from everything. That's an oversimplified summary of the plot that is woven around what was then called "generational conflicts". But to be honest why should you have any sympathy for the guy ?
As I said at the beginning this isn't a movie for everyone - it certainly wasn't for me.
Excellent classic.
Mike Nichols’ The Graduate gracefully transcends genre conventions with the use of one key factor: perspective. A perspective suffocated by youthful malaise for events yet to come. A submissive perspective tossed and turned by the will of adult superiors rather than his own. A perspective viscerally experienced through use of long tracking close-ups of Ben Braddock’s shuffle through the thick cascade of grown-ups, visual motifs emitting his inner sense of confinement, and his awkward, satisfying arc from a caged goldfish to a free-spirited dolphin.
This initial passivity is handled to full potential, generating tightwire tension from the elder Mrs. Robinson’s attempts at seducing his diffident innocence. Nichols analogizes Ben’s emotional states to bodies of water, once being trapped and controlled by outside forces in a swimming pool, and in another, sailing smoothly on a cozy pool bed and relishing in the presence of a lively, decorative fountain. Simon & Garfunkel’s soundtrack further enhances this thematic weight, figuratively charting Ben’s rise from the dark, silent abyss of emotional emptiness and passivity to a town-hopping hero charting his own path to instill a little more certainty into an undoubtedly uncertain future. Through Ben’s eyes, the older generation are represented with humorously exaggerated flourish, with the writers brilliantly tapping into parents’ natural, incessant need to control their children’s paths as well as their over-dominance that kickstarts Ben’s thrust into a more active control of his life.
By slowly exposing Elaine Robinson’s emotional scars and the similarities of her predicament, the universal naturality of Ben’s struggles is captured; with her joysticks also in hands of different pilots, the film’s themes immediately transcend social and gender boundaries and become mutually shared experiences. The same can be said for its masterful final seconds, which captures, through face alone, that despite the impermanence of life’s elations and the anxious uncertainty of an undrawn fate, these emotional pains can be eclipsed if fought together rather than toiled through alone.
The protagonist marries the daughter of his mature lover. Very good.
I liked this a lot. I'm glad it ended the way it did.
image 4.25 / 5 and sound 4.25 / 5 . A long time without seeing it, the way to tell the story and the planes chosen make this movie stand out. Dustin Hoffman at first reminds me of Rain-man
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Lived up to the "Classic" reputation. Amazing soundtrack.
Shout by Neal MahoneyVIP 8BlockedParent2017-08-09T03:17:11Z
What a fantastic film. Dustin Hoffman is great. Loved the soundtrack. Here's to you Mrs. Robinson.
The ending is super dark when you think about it.