It's becoming tired to read people again and again writing: "how this fit into the cannon"

Daaaaaaamnnn!! Just watch the show and forget all the freaking old series. It's no so hard

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This episode felt rushed and messy, obstacles being set up and solved almost instantly.
I can't possibly know what the show is running towards, but the ride doesn't seem worth it.

We get fun scenes, beautiful visuals and Doug Jones? Sure, but at the expense of really knowing these characters and getting enough time with them. Time to understand and feel with them.

Seems like Star Trek Discovery is establishing itself with nice peak moments, connected by a whole lot of nothing.

Discovery still has potential (and budget) to become a great sci fi show, here's to hoping they'll slow it down eventually.

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A thrilling episode that once again goes into a direction that's... bold. I can only imagine what will happen next and what the ramifications are for the events portrayed. Is this loss of Federation Space canon? If not how will they twist it into the canon, if at all? Will they eventually travel back in time, change the past and thus end up with regular Klingons and everything else we know and hold so dear from the classic series.. This is all so very exciting, I can't get enough of this show... but alas... there's no more to get (for now).

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BlockedParentSpoilers2018-01-29T16:31:32Z

This was an action filled episode. Production wise this is great. If their is one point of criticism - hire a new fight choreographer. And what about Jason Isaac ? Will we now see the other Lorca ? Just when I thought I had a vague idea where this is going they throw everything out of the window. This I did not see coming. Whole episode was full of what-the-heck moments. Question still remains what is the main universe they are in because with that reveal at the end their is no way you can tie this into Trek Prime. And this is the main drive for me - how does this fit into Star Trek canon ? Could be worse. But I must add I also enjoy the writing more and more. At least they come up with bold ideas and judging from how the Mirror Universe part was layed out in preperation for this I have confidence the writers to have a bigger picture.

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okay ladies kicked ass with mediocre fight choreography. but now what? they do realize that this is a PREquel, right? as in this has to lead up to the events taking place in TOS? or is there another "twist".
and we go back to the original question, in a world full of possibilities why did they choose to make a prequel in the first place.
anyway, what i came here to say is, i'm trying to enjoy the series and this episode was not bad.

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Shout by DAVY X
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BlockedParent2022-01-03T21:25:00Z— updated 2024-01-21T03:30:40Z

9.5/10
Outstanding
THIS IS PROPER TREK AND
THE ABSOLUTE BEST TREK OF THEM ALL.
THIS SHOW IS PHENOMENAL AND HAS ME ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT EVERY EPISODE AND SCREAMING AT THE TV WITH THRILL AND EXCITEMENT. WOW WOW AND WOW AGAIN.
AND THEY HAVE BROUGHT TIME TRAVEL INTO
IT AS WELL, WHICH IS FRICKIN AWESOME, THAT IS DEFINITELY MY THING THAT I CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF IN TV SHOWS AND MOVIES.
THIS EPISODE HAD EVERYTHING IN IT
AND IT WAS AMAZING AND SO WELL CHOREOGRAPHED WITH THOSE AWESOME FIGHT SCENES, NO TREK HAS EVER COME CLOSE TO THAT SHOWCASE COMBAT
IT WAS STUNNING TO SEE,
THIS WHOLE SHOW IS MOVIE
QUALITY AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE
EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.
RIDING THE SHOCKWAVE WAS A NICE TOUCH,
(I HAD GOOSEBUMPS ALL
THE WAY), THAT'S WAS TOTAL
TREK 101. IF YOU DON'T RIDE
THE SHOCKWAVE AT SOME POINT
IT'S NOT PROPER TREK, KUDOS
TO THE WRITERS FOR THAT,
THEY DEFINITELY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY DEFINITELY
KNOW THEIR TREK.
SARUS SPEECH WAS EPIC,
REALLY HEARTFELT, AMAZING
ACTUALLY.
THIS SHOW IS PERFECT AND
THE ABSOLUTE BEST TREK
HAS EVER EVER BEEN.

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A good episode, but nothing special. Some minor decision making made little sense, so does "the science".
I also frequently feel like they'd recycle too many elements from previous shows and movies. "Riding on top of an explosion" is getting old, for example.

And about the show in general: I'm a bit disappointed by "the hounding" from setting to setting, within few episodes. So far Discovery's priority certainly isn't to deepen the plot, rather than jumping to the next climax.

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Shout by kinky
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BlockedParentSpoilers2018-01-29T21:42:22Z

Evil Stamets is dead! Lorca is dead! They just won't stop with the twists! Every time I think that I know where they're going with this, a twist comes along and shakes things up. The unpredictability of this show is definitely one of its more attractive features. But now I feel a bit disappointed because it seems that we're back again at Klingons vs. Humans... I gotta say, for me, the best part of the show was spent in the Mirror Universe.
All the rush and adrenaline of this episode made it feel like a season finale, but we still got two episodes left. Let's see where they're taking this baby, now...

But what upsets me the most is that we will no longer be able to have Lorca saying the cute catchphrase "Make the Empire great again!".

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Shout by Agent24
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BlockedParentSpoilers2018-01-29T20:21:47Z

Please make Michelle Yeoh a regular cast member! She's pure badass! This show really knows how to make the storyline interesting again and again. Great episode!

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So I guess they will use the emperor's skills to reclaim fed space...

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This show has its own unique way of being addictive, it always finds a way to keep you posted on the next episode :)

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I have my plan and I do not mind using anyone to get it. A classic bad returns

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Oh f...! This episode was great until the end when they just had to push time travel down our throats. All the f... screen writers in Hollywood that thinks time travel is a good idea should be shot, hanged, decapitated and shot into the sun!

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