After my wordy thoughts regarding how Netflix chose to do the first episode, I feel conflicted about this one... :confused:
On one hand my inner fanboy wants a closer representation of what happened in the books, especially as they decided to cut out practically everything from the original short story "The Edge of the World". I so wanted to hear the witty back and forth between the "devil" Torque and Geralt. I didn't even expect Lille, but at least more of the fun wheat field-scenes....
But then again I can see why they decided to go this route: They had to fit three stories and two and a half meaningful introductions into 60 minutes. And the focus was clearly on Yennefer with 34 minutes, compared to 14 minutes for Geralt and 11 for Ciri. You can't possibly fit a 60-odd page short story into 14 minutes. It just doesn't work. So they didn't even try and just left the parts in that would have been relevant for a "Previously on The Witcher..."-reminder somewhere down the line. I personally would have prefered if they would have decided to use a different story for the introduction of Jaskier, so they could use more of the short story later on.
But did it work as an episode, if you wouldn't try to compare it to the books? Phew... That's a tough one...
Let's start with the easy one: Ciri. Ciri's part worked quite well, fleshing out her character and showing us how she clearly isn't the naive little princess. But she clearly needs some guidance. Without the help of our hooded teenager ex machina she would have died within the first minutes of her screentime. And they cleverly used him and the scenes with the noble familiy's servant to show us that she obviously is far less simple minded and xenophobic than her surroundings. She's going to have a tough time in The Witcher's world.
Geralt: I've already spent 187 words on his 14 minutes, therefore I'll keep this one short: Our Butcher of Blaviken had only little room to develop and or showcase his character, but he used them wisely. Netflix made a wise decision in sticking to his philosophical side and I hope he gets more chances to show it off. This was like the abstract on a multi page paper about the possible future relationship between humans and elves. I hope Netflix lets Geralt read from the main parts of his papers every now and then.
Jaskier: He's very promising and I can't wait to hear more from this witty, whiny and surprisingly musical fellow. I always knew he was supposed to be a great bard, but somehow I thougt he wouldn't be that catchy. We really need his songs out there to buy and or stream!
Yen: This was a Yen-episode and practically everything was original. In the books we only learn very little about her past, so there's a lot of room to go all out for the writers. And I think they will, creating not only an origin story for her, but adding in new, fleshed out characters, new conflicts, and adding lore to the sorcerers and how magic works in The Witcher. I hope they don't try to create a hard magic system for the show, but keep it as soft as it is in the books. I'm interested in how she develops and turns into a multi faceted sorceress.
I'll give this one a 8 out of 10. Why, after I've spent lamenting about the differences to the books for around a third of my comment? Because I stand by my word and will try to see this as a stand alone re-telling of my favorite stories. And it's a promising second episode to what will hopefully turn out to be a very successful and longer running show.
This world sucks. What a crappy depressing place fill with nasty assholes.
The dialogue is super cringe at times and most of the actors are so bad that I feel like I'm watching a Game of Thrones parody...
This episode might be the weakest of the season, if not for the amazing acting and that otherworldly song of Jaskier. Saved the episode for me, worth it.
No, honestly. This wasn't bad per se, but really not good. Looks weak after that great first episode,
Lots of world building and introduction. Sadly a lot of it looks quite two-dimensional on first glance.
Still decent, but I don't like the focus con Yen's origin story.
The issue with this episode is that we’re expanding a bit too quickly. What was a detriment to The Mandalorian in the first season would be a great asset here. To fans of the source material, the way the lore is being incorporated is dull because it’s a little too on the nose. Everything is simply explained to us rather than simply referenced, likely because the writers would be worried we wouldn’t understand if things were referenced casually without explanation. But something so exposition heavy has the weight of making the world building ring false. It’s hard to feel as though this is an organic world when large concepts are being explained at length that everyone in-world would likely know.
Additionally, it’s disappointing how origin heavy this is. Perhaps this is due to me not having read the books and only played the games, but what I found so alluring is how the focus being on Geralt means that we really only ever follow a side character to a larger narrative. He’s our protagonist, but he’s not really some prophesied hero. I love that this frees us from origins, instead allowing us to effectively skip a conventional introduction and get to the meat. I know Yennifer and Ciri are major players in this narrative, but the extent to which we’re following them means the spotlight is shifted clearly off of the eponymous character of the show in the second episode. I barely have enough reason to care about Geralt, so please don’t try to get me to care about others this early too. Ciri and Geralt felt like enough.
I hope this is rectified soon. This episode was a slog. Henry Cavill’s contacts looked worse in this episode. It's running the CW-esque problem where all your actors look too manicured for the show itself to ring as authentic. You can slop dirt around on these actors faces all you want, but something about it just looks incorrect.
It's getting quite crazy but still cool :)
Poor Yennefer, I still feel bad for her. I'm very glad that this isn't really an issue for us anymore as it would really suck to look/be that way (one would probably be an outsider with few friends and I doubt that's healthy).
Cirilla is still cool and super tough. Her company, Dara (an elf), is also interesting and even speaks now :D
The bard (barker) is funny and kinda good company for The Witcher (Butcher of Blavikan, LOL).
"He's one of the clean ones:" - It's really no wonder that dwarf(?) stabbed her... :o
I still don't really understand the dynamics between Tissaia and Yennefer but it's kinda interesting.
It's also super weird that Yennefer and Istredd have this good thing going but at the same time are betraying themselves.
"Sometimes the best thing a flower can do for us is die." :o
And of course the very beautiful "Toss a Coin to your Witcher" song at the end <3
Can't stand watching Yennefer, it's so ironic how the actress portraying Tissaia looks more like Yennefer than Anya does. And Tissaia is actually Yennefer's teacher. Just feels weird watching a supposedly should be Yennefer teaching the "ugly" Yennefer sorcery. Don't like how Ciri looks like either... they just did so bad on the casting of course except for Henry Cavill. Anya's features just shout indian to me and i wouldn't say she's not pretty, but she's just not right for Yen's role. That alone bothers me more than anything. Ugh.. finally got it out of my system. I even went to the point of googling MyAnna Buring's images and she easily would've been Yennefer hands down, don't know what they were thinking for casting Anya instead. SMH
edit: I finally went googling for Anya's wiki and I was right, indian features because she has an indian father. Like i said, no disrespect to any race but she's just not right for that role.
Awww, so they both were betraying each other, how romantic
Not very excited about this show thus far
After watching this episode I feel more hopeful for the series than after ep 1. Apart from anything else I was impressed by the sword fighting scenes with The Witcher. I'm not an expert in sword fighting by any means but I usually feel that sword fights feel too choreographed and it seems like the combatitants are waiting for the others to move into position and even moving to intercept blows before they are instigated. I expect that the main fight was with experienced swordsmen playing the combatitants along with Cavile who must have done a lot of training. The film making is also hiding a lot and flowing with the action well so that you can't see them cheating it or it just moves to quickly. Another fight with 2 actors (ie. not a dedicated expert) was less convincing yet still passable.
Apart from the fights, which are not usually a positive focus for me, the story and characters are becoming more interesting. I'm yet to get used to the fact that the Witcher speaks as if he is in a different show to the rest of them. Many scenes see him talking to someone who has a normal voice while he continues to speak like he's auditioning to be the next Batman. I keep waiting for the other characters to say "hey, what's that? Speak up!". I'm assuming it's a deliberate choice on the part of the film makers and a way to make him stand apart from the human characters, yet it still seems comical at times.
7/10.
Once again, messy. I didn't find Anya that great as Yennefer, but she's doing a standup job so far, and her origin makeup is much better than I expected it to be. Joey seems good as Dandelion (and Toss a Coin... is great!). There was that big casting controversy in late 2018, but really for an eastern European fantasy it is frankly odd when nonwhite characters show up (especially when the books establish all of the races as well), but whatever.
I kind of understood the need for it in the pilot, but I'm not a fan of the hokey, wittier-than-thou, eyebrow-juggling banter that sometimes takes place between the characters (e.g. Renfri and Geralt in the bar in ep. 1). It's something I'd expect out of a CW show, not Netflix.
So far the one prediction that everyone had - that Henry Cavill was going to be great - has panned out. Cavill is fantastic as Geralt. Just wish he had better dialogue too. (Reddit points out that most of the gem quotes come straight from the books).
Really enjoyed the humour in this episode, and especially the bard character.
So what happened to Ciri is partially Geralt fault. I mean the main reason is the genocide, but other than that it's the Witcher right? Interesting.
Well, it's a bit weird, but so far Geralt's story is the weakest one. Not the overall plot points the execution with meta-bard and clunky dialogue that half cliche and half metacommentary surprisingly not all of it was the bard fault. The world looks beautiful, the setting keeps being confusing.
so far so good! Really enjoying this.
Good God that song at the end was dreadful.
Not as good as the premiere. It was more of a slowish episode with a decent amount of information, I guess? None of it struck out at me, though. It was still enjoyable. But I hope this was just an establishing sort of episode, to get things out of the way in the very beginning so things can start to flourish, non-stop, and that there won't be another. I'll still enjoy another episode like this, regardless. It just doesn't appeal to me in a standard sense.
I think this was actually an improvement to the premiere episode. Very interesting world building indeed. Also loved the ending scene with the bard song. Again reminds me a lot of the video game.
Did your mother fuck a goat?
... did your mother fuck a snowman?
Hahaha. I love this show.
Just a little too little Witcher in this one.
An interesting way to introduce Dandelion whilst mixing around the short story 'The Edge of the World' from book 'The Last Wish'. The original has an already established relationship between the two and took time to flesh out the presence of the Sylvan a bit more. He wasn't just stealing grain in the book. He was taking seedlings and researching how to grow crops for the Elves who were exiled from their original lands to the mountains.
Nevertheless this version works very well and establishes the Elven position as well as setting up the dynamic between the surly Geralt and the ever spry Dandelion (Jaskier).
It's surprising that at the same time they manage to deliver a fantastic baseline for Yennefer's story as well. And what a tale! Anya Chalotra absolutely brings to life this origin story. What great casting choice and writing.
I don't understand, why
the sorceress has transmuted her students into eels, all except Jennifer. What's the meaning of that?
This episode is on "Fine" level. The story is really confusing and weird. But it's not that bad. World-building is great though.
Woman 1: "How much for a pig?"
Man: "They'll be at market tomorrow."
Woman 1: "Well, I'm here today."
Man: "Ten marks."
Woman 1: "How much for this beast?"
Man: "Six."
Woman 1: "Four."
Woman 2: "What are you doing?"
Man: "Sold. Four marks."
Bard: "Need a hand? I got two."
Bard: "I have to see this magical, this mythical--"
Woman: "Even if you were a beauty, still, no one would love you."
Girl: "I did it."
Bard: "Credit where credit is due. That whole reverse-psychology thing you did on them was brilliant, by the way. 'Kill me. I'm ready.' "
[Geralt looks at the bard.]
So bad i quit now for good xD
Very boring, they try to spice it up by throwing some boob in but I dunno if I'll hang around to see the rest of the season
With what is told in this chapter I do not know where they are going, let's see what happens now
I loved the actress who plays Yennefer she is elegantly skilled.. also the scenes between The Witcher and Jaskier were so refreshing.
Anyone else notice the elf on the shelf reference in that song? The thing has been stuck in my head for a week now
Front hand or backhand - Key and Peele
seriously this hump is hot babe on yenifer
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If this weren't based on a famous IP, most people would stop watching after this. Sooo boring. And it's getting unbelievably overhyped online.