No just No
Enough with the weak scenario, with milking one plot for the whole season, with low budget small environments, with not caring about what's happening on its own parent universe.
I mean WAS IT SO HARD TO MAKE HALF OF THEM DISAPPEAR IN THE END BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN INFINITY WAR???
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@hamadam i don't think the makers of the show had any info on how infinity war ended (because of how paranoid marvel are with spoilers) so they did the best they could in the last few eps to join the mcu together and i think they did a pretty good job. the people who die at the end of iw are random either way and as much as it's way too lucky that none of them turned to ash it's not that hard to make yourself believe it still makes sense and works. honestly this show has fought its way to become what it is today, the characters and character arcs and character building this season was some of their best ever work. yeah the show has a low budget and you can see it, but it's so much more than what you reduced it to be. this episode was immense and you're 100% allowed to have your opinion ofc but this show and this cast deserves a lot more respect imo
No just No
Enough with the weak scenario, with milking one plot for the whole season, with low budget small environments, with not caring about what's happening on its own parent universe.
I mean WAS IT SO HARD TO MAKE HALF OF THEM DISAPPEAR IN THE END BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN INFINITY WAR???
This show became garbage for the last few seasons, I'm hoping it's not a money problem and it's something they can fix if not the next season will be last...loading replies
@morphinapg true that could be a bit of a fixer-upper way to connect it all but i dont blame them for not putting that together
No just No
Enough with the weak scenario, with milking one plot for the whole season, with low budget small environments, with not caring about what's happening on its own parent universe.
I mean WAS IT SO HARD TO MAKE HALF OF THEM DISAPPEAR IN THE END BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IN INFINITY WAR???
This show became garbage for the last few seasons, I'm hoping it's not a money problem and it's something they can fix if not the next season will be last...loading replies
@hamadam maybe! but for example chloe, iain, clark, natalia, elizabeth all had such such powerful stuff this season and even in this episode alone. but i get what you're saying haha just think 1/10 is a bit harsh
Shout by Fran
the comments saying this is an honest portrayal of modern teens................ @ american teenagers are yall ok? is everything ok at home? this show's like everything i hate about american culture but i guess i should have seen that coming. won't be watching it again, which is disappointing cus i love zendaya and she's so cute in this :(
EDIT: i watched the whole season and the way the show’s directed, edited and generally its technical aspects are amazing. some issues are delt with really really well (rue’s depression for example) but everything else is just very much still an extra american teen show that makes me cringe every time i have to remind myself im watching the lives of 16 and 17 yos.
6/10
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@chopke i mean i was a teen like literally 2 years ago and i can safely say my experience, and that of everyone around me, was NOT like this show omg. there are so many teenage shows that are crazy sexual and where everyone acts independent and like adolescence is the craziest time ever and it just isn’t like that....
Ahhhhhh i’m so happy they are not shying away from the tough conversations on what it means to be Captain America in this decade. I love symbolism in storytelling and there’s no stronger symbol than that shield, and the way they have used it as a vehicle and representative of the different American identities (good and (really) bad) has been incredible.
Steve Rogers, John Walker, Sam Wilson and Isaiah Bradley all represent sides of the US that co-exist, and John Walker being the effective Captain America for most of this show isn’t accidental - he’s the side of America that’s most present and salient right now (in the world off the screen), but ending the show with Sam Wilson carrying that shield - and going through all the issues that that might bring up - is as powerful a message as any - one of hope and of what the US should aspire to be. Steve Rogers is no longer enough, Steve Rogers is the American Dream - Isaiah Bradley the American Reality - and Sam Wilson is both. This show, and all of Captain America’s storyline, is about so much more than just men in spandex and they’ve done a fantastic job taking it even further here. Glad Marvel is still delivering after so many years, makes me proud to be a fan!
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@bkurtz Thank you!! Curious to see what they do with the finale :)
Ahhhhhh i’m so happy they are not shying away from the tough conversations on what it means to be Captain America in this decade. I love symbolism in storytelling and there’s no stronger symbol than that shield, and the way they have used it as a vehicle and representative of the different American identities (good and (really) bad) has been incredible.
Steve Rogers, John Walker, Sam Wilson and Isaiah Bradley all represent sides of the US that co-exist, and John Walker being the effective Captain America for most of this show isn’t accidental - he’s the side of America that’s most present and salient right now (in the world off the screen), but ending the show with Sam Wilson carrying that shield - and going through all the issues that that might bring up - is as powerful a message as any - one of hope and of what the US should aspire to be. Steve Rogers is no longer enough, Steve Rogers is the American Dream - Isaiah Bradley the American Reality - and Sam Wilson is both. This show, and all of Captain America’s storyline, is about so much more than just men in spandex and they’ve done a fantastic job taking it even further here. Glad Marvel is still delivering after so many years, makes me proud to be a fan!
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@mattdeezly1996 This comment is so meta, that's really funny.
SAM WILSON SIR...... HAND IN MARRIAGE PLEASE??????????????
okay so now that my proposal is out of the way (i love sam wilson), a couple of things:
kind of upset they killed Karli and gave that Walker asshole a semi redemption arc where he saves a bunch of people instead of getting revenge... it made me gag. I hate him (really do not care about that USAgent crap unless it's to write him off eventually). Even if Karli IS dead, the Flag Smashers storyline was surprisingly well done, they really gave them more voice and more respect than I thought they would. It is a very worthy cause and incredibly relevant as of right now, with the current migrant crisis - having Sam see the good in it and defend them in that incredible speech was pleasantly surprising. That was truly the highlight of the episode - when he told those powerful world leaders that the helplessness they felt against Thanos is the same helplessness the underprivileged feel against them every day... that HIT HARD (Anyone who's been paying attention knows Thanos was always the stand in for dictators and imperialists, but it's great that they've finally driven the point home). Anthony Mackie did a great job this whole season, Sam Wilson is the perfect Captain America (did I mention I love him?). Bucky took a little bit of a backseat which is totally fine, he's had more screentime in the films over the years, it feels balanced. Sebastian and Anthony's chemistry is undeniable, I hope we get a second season or a film cus they're too good to waste.
The Power Broker reveal... everyone and their mothers saw it coming, bit underwhelming. I'm interested to see what they do with Sharon's character now, she's incredibly hot as a rogue spy criminal boss lady.
Also, beyond Sam's speech, the scene with Isaiah at the museum sent chills all up my spine. This show is really important for the current moment we've living in. Marvel did great. PLEAAAASE give me a second season.
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@hamadam Literally... they stripped him of his title and said that's enough justice for today LOL also.... the "you didn't think Lemar's life mattered?!?!?!" line was... a very interesting choice of words in this specific context. There's no way they wrote that line accidentally. I thought they'd make it clear Walker is a nationalist with rage issues in this episode, but they totally backtracked the progress they'd made throughout the season for some quick flashes of him fighting next to Sam and Bucky and that blink-and-you-miss-it redemption moment.... It was the major let down of the season for me. Everything related to the two main characters was brilliant, but they did Karli dirty and I'm not at all happy with how they closed up Walker's SL (for the season at least...).
