Oh man they played us so well with Jackie's death. I just went back and watched the episode 1 opener. In hindsight it clearly wasn't her but that episode was crafted so well it led us to believe that. Bravo.
So it's confirmed that Lottie will be ringleader and that she's still got some cultists 25 years later? Super interesting!
And Taissa is darker than we thought!! (still not as dark as twisty Misty tho ofc)
Bring on season 2!
This season has some really good side plots, like Francesca looking for a match (I ADORE her and John!) and struggling to fit in with her loud and chaotic family, and Eloise and Cressida’s unexpected friendship (who would’ve thought I would LIKE Cressida? Not me). Even the Featherington girls are a really fun comic relief.
Unfortunately I don’t vibe with Colin and Penelope as a couple lol. All this talk about Colin being this sensitive guy who lives for others… all I remember of him from previous seasons is him traveling and blowing the family money to indulge his own whims lol. And I don’t mind a character whoring around a bit but for me if a romance is to work I don’t want to see that character STILL whoring around once they realize their feelings for their one true love. Colin is not a true yearner and I don’t respect him! I also just find the chemistry between him and Pen lacking. I can see why they had to send Kate and Anthony on a second honeymoon because their chemistry would make the lack thereof between the season’s main couple obvious. Even Fran and John are outselling them without speaking to each other.
All these years later, it still amazes me how much chemistry Henry Ian Cusick and Sonya Walger had.
Unbelievably, Walger was only in 13 credited episodes, yet Penny now feels like she was a part of the show as long as Desmond, who was in a lot more episodes.
It's only been one year since her mom died?! I understand that time in shows doesn't necessarily align with time in the real world, but this seems extreme. The pilot aired almost 4 years ago, and her mom had already died at that point.
Great ending, I'm really glad I watched it. It was refreshing to see people my age (close to 40) living these kinds of emotions, while delivering a truly "and they lived happily ever after" ending, and the narration was great.
I knew it was a sad sad ending, because I read the books, but damn! They gave me all the feels…the cast, crew and producers did an amazing job….well done! Really well done! Thanks for this
I was not expecting this bittersweet ending:pensive: Now that we all know it...Is everyone trying to see their daemons too?
Over 20 year, since i read the book, same feel, same pain... Poor kids!
I'm not crying, you're crying.
A beautiful but bittersweet ending. I think the last three episodes were the high point for this show and they deserve all the credits.
Dafne Keen and Amir Wilson really matured in their acting and the show grew with them. Keen was just outstanding in this last season.
After the cancellation of the trilogy after just one movie (The Golden Compass) I think they made a worthy adaptation of the books.
I know it that end will be for me a heartbreaking one, but dammit, I cry so much, so so so much! WILL AND LYRA WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST COUPLE IN ALL LITERATURE! discordant opinions not valid!
I waiting for so long do see this end, the mulefas, rhis master piece, that worth everything! ♡♡♡♡
That was a beautiful emotional roller-coaster... So many feels.
Honestly, ever since I first read the books decades ago, I've always wanted to see the Mulefa and to finally be here is such a dream come true. Whole show was worth it to me, just for that.
Yep, I don't regret a single minute, this show is a wonderful, brilliant story, with amazing acting and VFX. Tears were shed.
8.5/10
It went amazingly fast. I did not see that hour go by. What a great episode!
I half expected Jonas and Martha materialising in the road to actually cause the car to crash, in turn causing the clock maker to build his machine and create the knot, causing the cycle to start again.
Nice ending to a great show all the same. However, I think I would definitely benefit from watching all three seasons back to back at some point. I'm sure there are pieces that I missed, due to the complexity of the story.
"Ein Fehler in der Matrix"
Dark. The show that will make you use your brain more than you've done in years. I really missed the feeling of confusion this show gives. If my mind had subtitles when watching the show, I don't know if I'd even understand what I thought.
Let's try to recap. So, mirror universe, Martha is Jonas, Mikkel is alive, Franziska changed places with Elizabeth, Ulrich is still cheating, Katharina has a new look and divorced Ulrich, Bartosz has long hair and looks like the kid of a wealthy family, Erik's still missing, Kilian is dating Martha, Regina is dead and Jonas' more confused than he's even been before.
Also, I couldn't help but laughing with the long shot of two-eyed Wöller and that slow zoom out showing he's missing a limb. Over my laughter, all I thought was "damn, writers! I want to know the story behind his eye". I always thought it was supposed to be important for the plot and, at that moment, I thought it was gonna be nothing. And then they showed us Helge missing an eye instead of his ear and I thought that the eye, somehow, is still important.
Also, if Mikkel doesn't travel back, Ulrich doesn't, so, who destroys Hemge's eye, in this case?
Now, one thing I loved was the weird generation trio. Traveling together with yourself from different generations and killing people in the process with choreographed gestures sounds like a nice trip. The trio crepped me out but somehow I was drawn to it. Like I need to see them more often. The kid freaked me out. He doesn't even blink! And I loved how he and the old version just made the same gesture at the same time.
I just recall that Noah said the same exact words to Helge as middle-aged trio said to Bernd. "Nothing is in vain. Not a single breath. Not a single step. Not a single word. Not pain. An eternal miracle of the One"
I loved that the ending confirmed my suspections last season. Young Jonas was given two choices: stay with Martha or follow Adam. He chose the former and Alt-Martha brought him to Alt-World. Buuuuut Fremder Jonas doesn't know she's not the real Martha because he's never been to Alt-Wolrd soooo, we've got two different timeliness with one Jonas traveling and meeting Alt-Martha (which will turn out to be Eve) and Fremder Jonas traveling supposedly following Adam. And this is only the first episode.
Do you know what's sad about Ulrich and Hannah? That no matter the universe, Ulrich never says "I love you" back to her. I get that Hannah was a manipulative bitch in our universe, but she seemed sweet in this one. I can't believe I just said that. Also, instead of rich and Hannah I want to know more about Egon and Hannah. I really need to know what happened then.
I'm no expert on pregnancies but Hannah looked very pregnant. Maybe it's twins? Agnes und Noah? I don't know. My theory that everyone is a Nielsen will still be real until they tell me it's not. But after Elizabeth being her own grandmother, I can believe anything. Well, that or that she gives birth to the creepy trio.
Overall, great episode. Quiet for a change but it's just the beginning and the mirroring is just so compelling to me. I'm not so sure about the whole whoosp thing to tell us when the worlds change. But let's see. I could be talking for hours and hours but I've made a commitment with myself to just watch an episode a day. Otherwise, I'll feel guilty once I finish it.
I'm not actually sure what just happened and what I think about it. But the one thing I'm sure of is that the casting in this show is absolutely phenomenal. The actors look so much like their younger counterparts that I'm not fully convinced they aren't actually related.
Plus the cinematography is still fantastic and the music monatages are really beautiful.
And altough the story is still very confusing I found it more easier to follow and more engaging than Season 1 because I now know all the charcters and their background. And it seems that the writers had this all planned out and aren't just making shit up as they go which is really important in a time-travel show.
"Die Frage ist nicht, aus welcher Zeit, sondern aus welcher Welt"
Can I borrow someone else's neurons? I think my brain is in the process of melting. I'm gonna create my a family tree in the wall, with strings. Like a freaking lunatic.
This show is beyond words. The writing is fantastic and the music choices and ending scenes are some of the best I've seen. I'm gonna be rewatching this episode a couple of times. It felt appropriate but there were a couple of things that were rushed. The reveal of Elisabeth being both daughter and mom felt rushed. And who would've thought I would feel bad for Noah. Jesus, at the end of season 1 I literally thought he was evil incarnate and look at me now. What an arc. The ending with different universes felt a little bit cheap. But then again, what if this new Martha, and thus, her universe, didn't exist u til that moment? Old pizza crust Jonas told him to either follow him or try to save Martha. And then he added that Jonas will know what to do. Did old Jonas already know that Alternate universe Martha would come to the rescue or is this new Martha's universe this New World that old Jonas wanted to create? That would explain why middle age Jonas was so hellbent on bringing Martha to the bunker, if he knew she was gonna die in his arms. This is getting really confusing.
I love and hate the writers at the same time. I love how they go full Ophra Winfrey with the whole "you get to time travel" and "you get to time travel".
The ending was way too much. I feel like the ending in season 1 was better tied up. Like there was a cliffhanger, but not this mindfuck. I don't even want to know what's gonna happen to my brain in season 3.
As if it wasn't complicated enough to follow the adventures of dozens of characters through three different timelines, now wait to see that in different universes. I love (and by love I mean adore) when a show makes my head hurt this much. So I already know I'm gonna love the shit out of season 3, which, btw, can't come any sooner.
The whole Doppler family is going full circle. Seriously, come to think of it, Peter just created his own granddaughter. He basically slept with his granddaughter in order to create his daughter, which in turn created his granddaughter-wife. This is so messed up. Honestly! So damn messed up. I'm literally not even holding him responsible for hooking up with the prostitute.
Also, are we like ever gonna find out what happened to Wöllers eye? And also, the casting in this show if golden. I'm on the verge of believing that all of them are somehow related and that they've been patiently waiting to shoot the show. Specially Ulrich's evolution. Normal and old were so alike that I thought he was normal Ulrich with some prosthetics on.
Overall, this show has been a discovery for me. Maybe I'm talking out of emotion but this is one of the best shows I've ever seen. I can't recall a time I've been more confused while watching a show and had a wtf face throughout. Besides, the German language and the atmosphere give something greater to it. This show has helped me with my German learning (up to the point were writing this is English is getting seriously tricky) and it's also provided me with entertainment and constant wtf. I tried to explain season 1 to my sister to help me connect the dots and the confused look on her face was priceless. Trying to explain this show to a non-starter is starting to get really tricky. I feel like I could be talking hours and hours about possible outcomes or discussing timelines, so I think I'm gonna get back to the family tree to include new findings after this episode and back to the board to try to connect everything.
WHY AM I CRYING OVER A DEAD HAND???????? :see_no_evil::sob: Also FU Tyler. Still a cute scene. And the date in the tomb lmao, worked for me. :face_with_hand_over_mouth: Glad Enid is back, Wednesday and her are just perfect for each other.
I hate projectile puke scenes, they cheapen shows and movies. Other than that it was a good episode.
dudeeee, that's last look totally telling you it's gonna be hell for what coming next!!
I wasn't very satisfied with the transformation :/
she was this :type_1_2: close to saying dracarys
ENZO ST. JOHN IN WESTWORLD OMG
Disappointing after "Gganbu". Those VIPs were really over the top and made this episode hard to watch.
The hammy, poorly acted and written VIPs really brought me out of it this episode. A real disappointment to a strong show thus far
Not only the VIPs are gross, they can't fucking act.
I got myself way too excited for this. I think i probably would have enjoyed this episode more if everything came out at once or if they didn't hype this episode up so much. I came in expecting something that would really change the status quo of the Stranger Things world, I was expecting multiple characters to die. And technically multiple characters died and yeah the Stranger Things world was changed forever by this season but I'm honestly kind of upset that they didn't kill Max or some other characters. Overall this episode was great and I did cry multiple times throughout the episode so I'm still giving it a 9/10 but I got myself way too caught up in the hype.
