Egwene!!!! what a character development :clap:. She was the highlight of the last 3 episodes of this season.
They better stick and improve from here on out fr :100:. I want season 3 quality to be :chart_with_upwards_trend::chart_with_upwards_trend::chart_with_upwards_trend: not :chart_with_downwards_trend::chart_with_downwards_trend::chart_with_downwards_trend:
Okay wtf!!! . The last three episodes stepped up real hard . I'm actually starting to like the characters damn. Egwene was amazing in this episode. And the Yellow Ajah Aes Sedai is the ONLY character that managed to steal my breath away. Such a performance and memorable character. That weaving!!!! oh my goodness .
I hope they stick with this level of content :pray:.
Also, this needs at least 10 fucking episodes :100:.
This episode is just a joke. I can understand why there are differences to the books, but most of the made changes made things more complicated or just didn't made sense!
As a fan of the books I already had my issues with the whole adaption and the first episodes. But I got satisfied withe the last episode, where finally Rand was shown as the reborn dragon. And now this!
This feels so poor, stupid!
The battle on the pass for example: The army is starting on horses. Everybody who already looked forward to see an epic battle, because the start is very promising, will be disappointed because.... they don't use the horses. The men of the army will fight in the barrier and will all die very fast against the trolloc army.
And then: The 5 women, who barely can use the force are blowing the whole trolloc army away - just like this!
Thousands of men were very wasted before. Why they didn't send just these 5 women for the fight?
In the meantime the fight between Rand and the dark one is so underwhelming. You cannot see that Rand (the reborn dragon) is the most powerful Aes Sedai in the world.
The scene where Egwene needs to heal Nynaeve from death (the whole scene is so unnecessary) is one more detail, why this show is so poorly written. Oh - Loial also died in this episode! But don't be sad - he will also come back as if by magic for sure!
god fucking dammit not justin!!!
Imagine being so fucked in the head, that you put your kids through this, just so you can have some fucking guns at home.
That episode makes absolute no sense.
Hannah died the moment she was raped... painful to watch.
Bryce is the type of man that has to die
I needed a day to sit with the ending before I commented. Was I upset with the final episode? Absolutely. But it wasn't necessarily because Dexter died. Much like the prior season, it was due to the complete break in the series and the characters.
The beginning of the episode played out alright. And then it quickly spiraled after he was arrested. And this is the point where it seemed as though the writers painted themselves into a corner. They saw where they wanted to go, but didn't have a clean exit strategy. It wasn't so much Dexter's character that devolved, but everyone around hhim.For instance, Coach breaking protocol with the bottle of water? Now, I can see that happening when he was first brought in and didn't know the charges. Not after. And having the police chief run around like an idiot was just silly. And the ending with Harrison driving off into the sunset after killing his father? Lame.
But maybe it's just me :-)
Despite all of that, this was a much better season and I am sad to see it end.
meh. i genuinely think the writers have no idea what they're doing. there's a lot of "big moments" but i have no emotional attachment to them at this point. how do all the hosts feel about hale telling them to transcend? we haven't gotten nearly enough insight into how the hosts view this world, hell we don't even have a single host character to relate to in that aspect besides maybe william. everything happens because bernard magically saw it happen in his supersim. there's no explanation for why the world can't be saved, we just know it can't. we were wondering what was going on with christina, knowing this show would give some kind of twist, and there it is, she's "not real"... uh... okay? was i supposed to drop my jaw in awe? so what's the explanation for the people she interacted with earlier? why was hale visiting her? i guess that's a remaining mystery for the finale. i really don't care anymore...
That hour felt like 5 minutes! Bernard is Arnold. Dolores killed him. Ford made Bernard kill himself. Holy mindfuck! my head just exploded. Sorry, bad choice of words. And the MIB being a board member. He knew it all.
The first scene was just perfect. "Bernard, bring yourself back online", Maeve. I was on the edge of my seat.
Every theory has been confirmed, except for the William = MIB, which can also be said to be. He did say he was going to find Dolores and then the MIB appeared in the church, right after Dolores said "William?"
I knew Bernard was Arnold. I knew it. There was something about him that didn't add, especially that scene with Abernathy in ep 1. Those scenes with Bernarnold and Ford were perfect. I knew since the beginning Ford was just messing with him. He didn't even twitched when he saw the gun. And at the end, he even seemed concerned with Bernard, like he didn't want that to happen. I agree with Bernard, what kind of psychopath would give such a tragic backstory to a host? Well, our lovely Hannibal Lecter.
And the father of the year award goes to... Bernard! For his astonishing quote "Charlie,you're a lie". And Dolores killing Arnold, holy cow. Didn't see that one coming, although I get that's the reason why Ford told her that they weren't friends.
When they introduced the character of William I though that would be me, that he was just a regular guy with his regular problems but he's lost his shit. The only thing clear is that you don't call him Billy. He might slaughter you.
I think Ford's narrative involves Maeve, so that he can prove that the hosts are too dangerous to be used outside the park.
God glorious Anthony Hopkins: "Do you know what happened to the Nearthentals? We ate them". My greatest fear is to wake up and find myself in that creepy basement with Ford monologuing at me.
One thing I found pretty odd was Stubbs being attacked. Was it Ford? Create, kill, replace, repeat.
Get hyped for the 90-minute mindfuck of a finale!!!
William: Please Logan, even though I'm engaged to your sister, please help me take my sex robot home with me.
But how did no one notice Maeve and the doctor walking around the ENTIRE building!?
My fave episode so far. But I hate how submissive those two shithead were, esp Lutz. He wasn't even noticed when they went upstairs? wtf
[8.1/10] I think I’ve figured out my rubric for when I’m interested in what Westworld has going on, and when I’m liable to be bored. The more the show is focused on the park -- whether it’s the hosts making sense of their reality, or the guests exploring and growing immersed in it -- the more I’m on board. Those scenes tend to lean into what makes the show engrossing -- thought experiments about identity and sentience and moral questions about how we behave when there’s no rules.
But when the show is focused on the back end of Westworld -- in the form of corporate conspiracies and middle-manager backstabbing -- the more I’m ready to tune out. I’ve realized that none of the characters who are pulling the strings of the park really interest me.
Sizemore is a garden variety shitheel and his antics are as dull as they are intended to be outrageous. A cliched botched encounter with a romantic target-turned-surprise boss does nothing to help either him or Tessa Thompson’s introduction to the show. Theresa continues to be a stock character with a bad performance, between her run-of-the-mill, steely-but-wounded break-up with Bernard to her reheated pep talk to Sizemore. All the runaround and would-be palace intrigue of who’s going to be in charge of Westworld is a non-starter.
I also can’t be bothered to care about what conspiracy Elsie is uncovering, whether that means Theresa herself messing around with the programming of some off-the-books hosts or a mysterious third party posing as Arnold. The whole thing plays out like something from the usual conspiracy thriller textbook, with Elsie going alone to a creepy hideout, being attacked a hidden assailant, and getting stymied and put in danger just when she’s about to uncover the truth. It’s generic pablum and a big waste of time.
Even the two characters who gets the most focus and give the best performances in the “behind the scenes” portion of the show, have grown fairly dull by this point in the season. Ford is a less a character than a bundle of mysteries and cryptic hints at this point. As I’ve said in prior write-ups, Hopkins is a pro and can spin some of this straw into gold. But Ford is a character without weight at this point, there mostly to deliver exposition and throw out the occasionally navel-gazing bit of foreshadowing.
Sure, it’s mildly interesting to learn that those kids that various people have run into on the property are actually robotic versions of his younger self, and that the oft-spoken-of Arnold made host incarnations of Ford’s entire family, which Ford maintains both to preserve a connection to Arnold and to his past. But what does it amount to?
It amounts to another vague story beat to suggest that there’s something amiss with what Ford’s doing, without really delivering any answers and just having Hopkins skulk around and try to carry these scenes on his back. Even Bernard, who has his fingers in the most pies of the behind-the-scenes storylines, has reverted to being something of a cipher, with a nebulous desire to protect Theresa and the lingering pain of his dead son to motivate him, but a pretty dull progression on a scene-to-scene basis.
It’s hard to pinpoint what the pathology of all these back end stories and characters is. It may just be that, even in the context of a futuristic theme park, this half of the show comes off like a generic high-powered office drama. The characters aren’t sketched out well enough, or given anything but generic personas and motivations, to keep up the intrigue, and unlike the park-focused characters and storylines, it’s harder for that part of the show to rely on the coolest elements of Westworld’s premise.
Those are, namely, the twin concepts of robots becoming more complex while slowly gaining sentience and the exploration of the soul when human beings are given the chance to let their best or worst impulses run wild.
Theoretically, The Man in Black should suffer from the same problems without any of the benefits his fellow park-dwellers benefit from. He’s as much a bundle of mysteries as Ford is, and there’s not exactly a battle for his soul going on right now. But he has a few things in his favor.
First, he has a supreme competence and mastery of this world that marks him as unique relative to other characters. Second, he has the benefit of Ed Harris getting to put on a clinic as memorable blackhats go. And third and most important, he has a clear goal. We may not know much about the fabled Maze just yet, but we know that TMiB wants to find it, that he’s been in the game for a long time, and he’s searching for something deeper, something more meaningful, out of this experience. That makes him compelling, even when he’s mired in the same less-than-lucid mysteries the show seems to be promising.
But even he can’t match the glory that is Maeve’s story here, which is pretty handily the best thing the show’s managed so far. For one thing, it pulls the trigger on something the show’s been hinting at for a while now -- one of the hosts realizing what they are and where they come from.
The sequence where Lutz takes Maeve through the facility, set to the Vitamin String Quarter’s version of “Motion Picture Soundtrack,” is one of the most affecting in the show. The combination of the look on Thandie Newton’s face as Maeve witnesses the surreal sights of her entire world, her comrades and her being, in a state of being under construction, and her dreams being broadcast as ads, is tremendous.
But Maeve is able to take it all in relative stride, however much a shock it must be to literally meet your makers (or at least re-makers) and change who you are with a push of a button. There’s nice touches galore, like Maeve overloading when she reads her own speech patterns, or knowing how to manipulate Lutz’s jerkass workmate into keeping his big mouth shut.
There is something charming and capable about Maeve, one where she uses her skills to know what a person wants to finally get what she wants. The prospect of a host remaking themselves, of knowing what the real story is, and having some kind of plan, is the most exciting thing Westworld has offered since its inception.
When the show focuses on stories like those, which lean into the moral and spiritual awakening of these mechanical people, of the thorny moral questions about control and what makes us who we are, and about the animating idea of a place where people can let loose, for better or for ill, it is an engrossing, even thought-provoking show. When it focuses on a pack of pencil-pushers and clashing co-workers, it becomes like any other show, and leaves me wishing Westworld would stop with the office politics and get back to Westworld.
I don't see why they'd obey her, she had no way to force them...
This episode was very good.
ahhhmm, idk how to feel about this one? it sort of felt a bit more awkward than it usually does, almost like a caricature of itself? seemed to be way more sex then there used to be for example. idk.
Jesus Christ, I was on the edge of my seat and cringing this entire episode. Can't quite decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Didn't need a whole episode of that to get the point across. Nothing happens until the last fifteen minutes. This could have been much shorter.
