Logan is bigger than me cause if I was him and I found out my enemy just killed someone I would not intervine anyway, not to hurt them but not to help them, I know he is doing it for the Roy name and not specifically to help Kendall but still he was actually nice and acted like a father.
I wanna be Team Kendall but Logan had a point when he asked Kendall why he wanted this, and Kendall couldn’t mumble a reason; and after the lake incident Kendall lost me
And I feel like Kendall’s problem could’ve been solved from episode 1 with good PR, the reason investors and the board didn’t trust him was because of his image, he seemed weak, insecure and had a drug problem before taking over, and was recently separated, so he just need a great PR team
On a last note I didn’t like Shiv’s wedding dress for her, I don’t feel it matches her vibe
This episode. The acting. Oh my gosh. I don’t usually leave a comment on these things but this episode is just :asterisk_symbol:chef’s kiss:asterisk_symbol:
and just like that, Ken is a little boy again, who did something wrong, where his father cleans it up, and everything fell into place.
This episode brings home the important focal point of the series: The fight between good and evil. The communications and intricacies of the crime and government ecosystem forayed persistently by the confluence of 'The Wire' give important detail into various forms or aspects of good that exist in the system, and the similar struggle of both sides of The Wire to stave off the corrupting blight of evil that threatens the the honest-living communities of destitute and middle-of-the-road folk only trying to live life as they can. In the fight against those who want to tyrannically control or subdue the hapless populace for personal fortune or power, as the theme suggests: "You gotta keep the devil way down in the hole."
Series finale. A consistent end with the series. With scenes of how the characters end up in the future. And yes, the wire is the best series I've seen, all his seasons are very good. We will miss Omar, Mcnulty and the rest of the protagonists
And just like that, it's over. The final montage is one of the most emotional moments I've seen on TV, not because it wraps anything up in a nice bow (or ribbon) but because it restates its general thesis: life is cyclical, and life just goes on. It's the kind of show you never want to see end, really.
Season 5 has some issues with how far off the deep end characters go in making up bullshit but I'll be damned if it isn't close to the best season. It's not a perfect season of TV (unlike, say, Season 2), but it is a perfect season of The Wire.
Final thoughts;
Fuck Cheese.
Fuck Scott.
Fuck Herc right up his ass.
Poor Dukie.
Go Bubs.
"That was for Joe." ~ I love you, Slim Charles. Right up there with Daniels, Bunny, Omar, Kima, Cutty and Bunk as one of the most respectable characters in the show (damn, the list could go on, for a show about moral grey areas there were a lot of shining stars).
Sydnor as the new McNulty and Michael as the new Omar are both threads I wish could get explored more. Sydnor was an underdeveloped character but he had potential and showed signs of being good po-lice. Michael's arc is one of the most complete runs in the show, and carrying on the torch of Omar is drama I desperately want to see. Oh well, The Wire: the Movie dies in my dreams, I guess.
Poor Michael lost his whole youth because of the game. Damn shame...
There's no plot armour. There are no heroes.
Damn... That FBI description of the "killer"...
I knew this was coming but it still made me angry. What an absolute bullshit way to kill a legendary character :(
This is going to blow up majorly. Heads will roll.
I'm not sure I like where any of the characters are heading in this season
Think I’m gonna be a scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeeeeeeeeeit.
RIP Prop Joe
Marlo is the worst
Mcnulty and Marlo continue to amaze me as they pursue their plan whatever
Marlo has gone too far. Even for Marlo. You could see it in his eyes in the last scene. He has officially gone insane.
I can't believe I'm sad for Prop Joe.
Over eleven hours of build to the point where the relationship between the quartet really shows its wide fractures.
Naymond gets bitchslapped the way he deserves for picking on Dookie but he is brought immediately to tears. His tough guy/bully persona has worn completely thin.
Michael gets kicked out of the gym - possibly the last refuge from the harsh conditions of his - for sticking up for a friend and putting and end to some needless abuse. His entire character arc may be the show's greatest tragedy because he's capable of so much more but the game has nurtured instead of any of the proper systems ( Michael, not Naymond, should be the one in Colvin's program, he needs that mentor-ship from a positive source instead of getting it from Chris).
Randy is a pariah for doing literally nothing.
And Dookie. Poor Dookie, he's the one who deserved to be adopted (man fuck Naymond) and instead, he's destined to be the new Sharrod. :(
This is the first episode where he Clay Davis’ famous sayings… “Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeit”
I liked the parts in the end where the people who were the subject of the debate were the least interested in watching.
had me shaking all the way through i'm so distraught and relieved and sick and proud and aimless
That was such an incredibly sad but perfect and correct ending.
I don't understand people who didn't like the ending because their favorite character didn't win. After 4 seasons with these despicable characters did anyone expect the Roy kids to unite and defeat the bad guy with the power of love and friendship? It was never going to end that way.
The three siblings just could never get over their egos. They all proved, through the 4 seasons, that they’re basically useless and the only reason they were ever in the discussion to be CEO is because Logan was their father. They'd rather destroy everything than have only one of the trio take the upper hand. Shiv just could not let her brother have a win, even if it meant her losing as well. Perfectly summed up their whole family dynamic and the show as a whole.
The siblings are so entitled and self-absorbed they never saw Tom coming. They’ve never had to work for a damn thing. I don't like Tom, but it makes sense for someone like Tom, who worked his way from the ground up and earned himself the position he was in.
The scene with the siblings making that awful smoothie and them watching their dad reveal yet another side of himself was so nice among the insanity that came in between.
That penultimate shot with Shiv and Tom in the car was phenomenal. Complete shift in the power dynamic. After marrying him specifically because she thought he was weak enough to keep holding power over.
Kendall not winning every season. That’s rough.
Willa revamping Logan's apartment with a cow print couch.
In the end Conor was the only one to have any kind of a relationship with Logan, the other kids are never shown having moments with him like he did at the recorded dinner.
Greg translating the Swedish in real time is the smartest thing he’s ever done. Four seasons and I cannot for the life of me understand why he would put up with that. His uncle offered him $250mil to get away from the firm.
But the biggest thing for me coming out of this episode is Kendall’s son isn’t really his. It really came out of nowhere and seemed more like a fact than a rumor the way everyone reacted to it.
All in all, Succession stuck to the show’s core till the end. In a way it’s a predictable ending but because it’s television and we expect some twist where a cool character comes out on top we don’t expect the expected. The outcome is pretty much what you’d expect from all the characters knowing their faults
Farewell Succession, there’s no doubt in my mind you’ll be remembered as one of the greatest TV shows of the modern era.
Wtf happened at the end there, what is Shiv's angle? :thinking: They are all making moves without each other: Ken lied to Roman and Shiv about telling Hugo to badmouth their dad in the press, Roman froze out Ken when he went off on Matsson on the cliff, and Shiv is now developing her own relationship with Mattson. These siblings can't work together, can they?
I like how the episode opened with a mirroring scene to Kendall’s original intro in the pilot. When Ken is rocking in the town car to rap, you know he’s back on his bullshit.
“Already rich.”
The Tom/Shiv stuff is so unhealthy.
I think Matsson was lying to Shiv about the blood bricks. He's playing her for sure. He was sounding Shiv out, I think the fact that he plays to her ego right afterwards by commenting how she is cool and like her father indicates some manipulation on Matsson's part.
I thought Toms little speech before that about how America has its own Paris and if that burned down they’d just build another was really good as well, such a perfect summation of a particularly American arrogance.
“I metabolise fast because I’m dynamic.”
“2 meters of nepotism.” is such a brutal insult to Greg. I think the Tom and Greg thing has slipped into self-parody at this point and it’s not really working anymore. Greg has become a pointless character.
“Sweden or Norway they all descend from the same rapists.”
"Your earlobes are thick and chewy, like barnacle meat."
Matsson is such a freak.
Love Shiv taking back control.
“You’re an addendum of miscellaneous matters in pencil… with a question mark.”
“Nevertheless!”
Dear Greg, always clinging to hope.
goddamn kendall really is his dad now......#justiceforshiv
That smile, coupled with Britell's ominous, bombastic end-credit music afterwards, are so deliciously foreboding.
What an excellent way to follow up last week's bombshell of an episode. Sarah Snook seems to fall back in line with her excruciatingly nuanced performance this week, as she goes back to holding in some very strong emotions in a subtle yet visible way this hour. We also get to see some surprisingly satisfying business decisions for Waystar, which could signal that things are looking up for both the siblings and the company.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Logan would be proud.
