Rock Lee is the absolute best, I adore him!!!
My favorite filler arc so far. The whole gangs working together and each one gets their moments to shine. The villain plot was more complex than usual for these fillers and it kept me invested the whole time.
As expected, this finale ended up being slightly underwhelming. Honestly, this whole season has been somewhat underwhelming. But that's beside the point right now. As always, though, there were moments that I liked in this episode, moments that weren't underwhelming, so to speak. The episode itself, on the other hand, was essentially like all the other episodes of the season; plotlines and plot progression that take a few steps forward and then take more steps backward and stay there, slow (and not in a well-done way, in my opinion), and ultimately, probably easily forgettable; with, of course, moments that weren't or were more memorable.
Seemingly, The Boys are disbanded. M.M. has returned to his family; something that I think he brought up in the premiere, and some other times throughout the season, as well. Frenchie and Kimiko are growing closer and seem to be off on their own adventure. Billy seemed to decline Grace's offer at the end of the episode; well, he didn't answer. And Hughie wants a break from having guts all over him, thinks he doesn't fit in with The Boys and never has, and wants to stand on his own two feet for once, and now wants to do things the right way, in a way that seemingly indicates that it won't result in having guts all over him.
Of course, this seeming-to-be disbandment of The Boys isn't going to last. And I think I know what's going to bring everyone back together, minus Hughie; but maybe he'll come back, too, due to something else. I was expecting Grace to die in this finale. I remember that there was a flashback in the comics of The Boys making a deal with The Seven with Mallory (who was a guy in the comics) at the helm, a deal having to do with both parties no longer fighting each other, something like that; and that he was killed at some point after that deal was made, which led to The Boys coming back together, back in business, and then, that's what ended up leading to Billy recruiting Hughie.
Grace's death would work as a tool to bring everyone back together, no matter what. But Hughie doesn't know her as well as Billy, Frenchie, and M.M. do, which is why I think something else besides that will be the ultimate reason for Hughie to come back. And while Kimiko doesn't know Grace that well, either, she'll probably go wherever Frenchie goes.
So, Victoria has superpowers. And they seem to coincide with what happened at the end of the previous episode and with what happened to Susan. Based on that revelation, the scene with her and Grace talking to the Secretary of Defense is seen in a different light. In that scene, she placed blame on Vought ━ twice. She blamed them for what happened. Then, when Robert replied by stating that a bunch of their guys died, too, she responded by insinuating it was to cover their tracks. Those two details stick out now.
It's possible that she did all of that to push the President to start having people use Compound V, for some reason; political gain, perhaps, or maybe she's truly against Vought and is using Compound V; so she has the means to do it her way, like in the comics where The Boys used it to have better chances against those with superpowers and did things their way.
After all, the Church of the Collective is on Vought's side or something like that, and she probably knew that. Meaning, taking out Alastair wasn't a move that was done out of now being a villain but rather a necessary evil to deal a major blow to Vought, specifically Stan. I'm not convinced that she's going to be a villain. But I don't think that she was the one who killed Susan and those people in the courtroom in the previous episode.
At the end of this episode, we saw her eyes as a metallic, silvery color, which suggests that when she uses her powers, her eyes glow like that and that she has to be looking at the person, of course. And we didn't see her eyes do that in the courtroom. I think my theory about Compound V; Stan getting it into the systems of people who'd be in the courtroom; is correct or more likely than Victoria being responsible. And if I'm correct, that could mean Stan did that to push the President into supplying Compound V.
I don't quite have any ideas as to what the purpose of Victoria is going to be and what she's going to be used for in the third season because I think she's a character who's exclusive to the show. I don't think she's from the comics. But it's possible that there was a character in the comics who was somewhat significant and a politician, and her character is based around that character, or it's the same thing with her as it is with Grace and Stormfront; as in, their counterparts in the comics were men.
Also, what's up with Cindy? The last time we saw her was two episodes ago; she didn't show up again in the previous episode. There's no way she isn't going to return in the third season because that will be ridiculous on the writers' part to leave something like that open-ended and forget all about it. But, oddly, they didn't have her show up again in the last two episodes of the season. Could she have been in the comics, like Love Sausage, and that's why the last time we saw her was the way it was?
I think there were things done throughout this season, developments that were built, that are paving the way for the show to be closer to the comics, specifically in the third season and onward; certain aspects like the world itself, which I think is starting to become more similar to the way it was from the get-go in the comics, the way it felt; the relationships and dynamics between the characters, like Frenchie and Kimiko; new characters introduced that were prominent in the comics, developments to one's character that aligns said character more to his or her's counterpart in the comics, like the death of Billy's wife, Becca; so on and so forth. I think, as an entire thing, that was the highlight of the season, with there being moments that were other highlights, in a lesser and/or different sense.
Anyway, this finale was alright. I know that I rated the previous episode with an eight (out of ten), the highest rating I've given an episode of this season; it was because of the ending, but it was still like all the other episodes, as was this finale. The plot, story, or plotlines, whatever you'd call it, of this season was the main factor for the feeling of underwhelming-ness to each episode. Despite that, I still enjoyed watching each episode, including this finale. And, as I've said before, there were plenty of moments; yes, moments, throughout the season, throughout each episode, moments that were good and memorable, better than others, better than the episodes themselves. And, well, I guess that's good enough.
The guys rocking out to Eye of the Tiger is just straight up legendary!
Shit the conversation with sam and miguel was deep. I welt really bad for him
The birth if a Sith Lord
Also that ship design at the end is pretty awesome
Hoping to figure out which side should i be on in coming seasons.
Such a bizarre episode. That being said, it was pretty fun at the same time. Seeing prequel era battle droids was a nice treat, Din's pettiness with the droids was pretty funny, and I even found the cameos to be fun. But this episode was very choppy and disjointed, and I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. To me, the season seemed to be hinting at some sort of conflict between Bo-Katan and Din over the darksaber. Not because they both want to lead the Mandalorians, but because it has to be won in battle and therefore Bo-Katan would have to fight Din to gain ownership of it again rather than him just being able to hand it over to her. But that was all just undone this episode with a technicality, which is far less interesting. I still got my fair amount of enjoyment out of this just because I like these characters and this show, and the direction was pretty great in this episode. But I didn't love the writing or the ending.
In contrast to many comments here I really liked this episode. Especially the part with the (former) doctor. Best episode sofar.
And no I don’t need 100% Mando. I also need these sidestories otherwise it would become quite boring.
A PERFECT tension-filled finale to what ended up being one of the most powerful and emotional Star Wars stories yet! More adult/serious Star Wars please!! Thank god we have season 2 to look forward to.
Immediately my favorite season of Star Wars television.
That Luthen shake off scene was EPIC
Wow. One of the strongest episodes yet. Every scene felt tense and powerful. This show is revolutionalising Star Wars
Reaching new hights. This was just brilliant character work all around.
Loved it! No action, but a giant leap in emotion and story for me. This series is showing that Star Wars movies/shows don’t have to be dumbed down or have god aweful dialogue.
Solid episode, kind of feels lackluster as a finale though and now I get this season was kind of a major setup for the next season. Regardless, Rick and Morty is just really consistent for the most part and this episode was no different.
I will find you. And I will kill you.
I mean, wrong franchise, but it still kinda fits.
Holy cow this episode was fire! Everything was building up to this and it paid off spectacularly. 10/10
After 2 weeks of world and character building we finally get to the heist and I was maybe just as nervous as those guys. Everything felt natural and logical so the events unfolding seemed very realistic for a bunch of motivated amateurs. We all knew it would be risky and although everything happened like I expected, I was still surprised how it happened. That's as close to a magic trick that a writer can come.
How can they release a crap like Obi Wan and then Andor which is damn amazing. This episode was a masterclass.
Another very good episode. But why is the runtime always so short?
Next weeks episode is going to be so hard to wait for. My god EVERYONE HOLD THE LINE!
Perfect culmination for the 3 episode arc. The parallelism between the present and the flashback is very well done.
This episode was really intense, heartbreaking and just wonderful!
Damn, that music was soo good
I hope people watch this show and realize how bad Obi-Wan was, this show felt like I was watching the same story of Star Wars I watched so many times, but in a more realistic way, a more calm pace, I never saw myself so much involved with rebels and empire conflict such as in this episode, and also no jokes, amazing
Diego Luna absolutely served :muscle:
Story quality, direction and overall tension. This is so much better than the Obiwan series. I also enjoy seeing characters and situations that aren't really tied to previous Star Wars lore and therefore not shouldering the burden of staying cannon. Basically, I love it and excited. This is a good step in a new direction for Disney and Star Wars as a whole.
It feels like ages since I've written something truly positive about a series premiere but this was great.
Such a great atmosphere. So much suspension through sound and visuals only. It feels almost noir at some points. The grittyness is exactly what I wanted to see.
This is rooted so firmly in the Galaxy Far Away and still feels so different from the popcorn Star Wars we usually get. I love that they sidelined the empire without completely taking away its existence and menace.
The bustling streets alone are such a relieve to look at. This feels alive. Completely contrary to how empty and small everything felt in Kenobi.
Bu what convinced me most is characterisation without (many) words. The decision to kill the security guy was really unexpected but gives Andor so much more depth and multidimensionality than the good guy decision could have ever done.
I really really hope this series continues exactly in this style.
I don't usually write TV reviews (too daunting of a task, as I watch a lot of TV), but I was so surprised by all of the criticism and lukewarm comments that I felt the need to throw my two cents in. To put it simply, the writing on this show is leaps and bounds above the writing on all other franchise TV released by Disney+ to date (Star Wars/Marvel). Maybe audiences are just used to the blunt force writing we often see in those other shows, where we are spoon fed on the nose dialogue that tells us exactly what is happening and how we should feel about it. I, for one, much prefer some nuance and subtlety in my TV, and that's what this show delivers. We get to piece together Cassian's plan without ever needing the show to spell things out. It's refreshing and engaging.
Moving to the smaller scale writing, I don't know how someone can watch the introduction scene of Syril Karn and Chief Hyne and not recognize the absolutely top notch dialogue, performances, characterization, story telling, etc. It does so many things at once, and it does them all brilliantly. And that's just one scene! The first episode has many that are equally impressive. As far as criticisms go, I will acknowledge that the opening four or five minutes were a little underwhelming. However, once we get to the actual instigating event, which happens around minute seven or eight, we get another example of excellent writing, dialogue, and performances.
All in all, easily the best Star Wars content we've seen since Rogue One.