Loved this episode! Had the same energy as Thor Ragnarok which is easily the funniest Marvel movie
When even the Watcher is up there looking sad by the turn of events :upside_down: I honestly came out of this feeling the worst for T'challa's parents. Stop making them sad, pls.
best episode yet! the ending didn't feel contrived and it felt like a far better standalone story than all the previous episodes combined, which is super surprising because i went in thinking this would be the most boring only to have my expectations completely shattered. it had its flaws, of course, but for further reinforcing how killmonger is one of the mcu's most compelling antagonists and having a super interesting storyline with many twists and relatively thought-provoking themes/messages, this episode is definitely getting a rewatch (unlike the others)!
LOL at Michael B. Jordan getting to say “What? I like anime” in MCU.
Continuing to confirm my theory that everything involving Wakanda is leagues above everything else in the MCU, this is a big improvement over last week's disappointing outing, even if the show continues having problems pacing itself. This is a big concept to do in 30 minutes - one that involves literally removing one of the MCU's biggest characters from the equation entirely - and while it does a great job in setting the stage, once the stage is set, it just... stops. This is a shame too cause the concepts explored here are really cool and fascinating, and like some prior episodes clearly needed more time to breathe.
Still, the good stuff is damn good here. Killmonger is one of the MCU's best villains and here we get another glimpse into just how good his planning, manipulation, and intelligence is. And just like in Black Panther, you can't help but root for him despite his obvious lust for power here, even if it's with extremely noble intentions. I do wish we got a more interesting, longer conversation between him and Rhodey about their differences in ideology, but the short runtime is once again to blame there. Still though, enjoyed this quite a bit.
I think this proves Killmonger was kinda underused or underdeveloped in BP :( cause I had no idea he was so smart! I feel like in BP he was portrayed more like someone who uses brute force the most. But here he barely moved a finger and he initiated a war between USA and Wakanda.
Oh and that brief T’Challa funeral scene was heartbreaking.
That was an interesting episode for sure.
First things first, what the hell happened to the animation? After stepping up the game last episode, this one took a serious nosedive in quality up the point where some movements and facial expressions just look motionless and ugly. Disney has a huge budget for this show, make use of it.
Again, many former (and current) MCU actors return to voice their characters, with notable exceptions of Robert Downey Jr, Scarlett Johansson, Liv Tyler and Brie Larson.
The replacements did a solid job, especially since their parts where not that big, with the unfortunate exception of Lake Bell, who tried her best impression of Johansson but made Natasha come off as robotic and emotionless (didn’t Laura Bailey, who can do no wrong voice her in Ultimate Spider-Man? How about that instead?)
The concept was interesting. What if the Avengers where killed off one by one before even coming together? What other options would Fury have?
The snippets of the OG Avengers were something to say the least. Most of their deaths felt (unintentionally?) funny and the episode didn’t really seem to know what tone to aim for. Or maybe by focusing mostly on Nick Fury they took the more emotional element out of purpose. Who knows? I believe that could have been made clearer.
Loki is the best part of this episode, because he is Loki and always the best part in anything he shows up in. It was fantastic seeing him as a respected leader among Asgardians, leading his people, fighting our main villain and wrecking absolute havoc on Earth in the most dramatic way possible to avenge his brother. He is Loki, of course he goes over the top.
I admit, despite Loki being awesome and the concept being interesting, I almost rated this episode down, if it weren’t for the twist villain in the end.
I should have seen this coming and it makes so much sense in retrospective, but in the moment it caught me off guard. Tragic and well-executed, it actually deserved more attention.
In other news, it was nice seeing Betty Ross again and since she plays such a huge part in Bruce‘s life, I‘m still puzzled Marvel never brought her back before (either with Liv Tyler or another recast).
Some funny tidbits are actually delivered by Coulson and his man crush on Thor and his overall gorgeousness. And his password.
It’s a solid episode. Definitely better than the mostly dull first one, but not nearly as great as the second one.
"He's dead." — Black Widow
Natasha just killed Tony Stark
Fury: "They look like they're from Earth?"
Coulson: "Maybe Middle-earth?"
Loki: "We are not allies."
Fury: "Then let me help you."Uh... Fury... that's how this works
Coulson: [Sighs] "Hashtag-Steve-Steve-Steve-I-heart-Steve-0-7-0-4."
Same.
Fury: "I'm not the only Avenger left."
Ouch, that hurt
Best one yet? Best one yet.
This one is the most interesting by far. Like, while Captain Carter hits the same beats as TFA and T'Challa's is original, I like this one because of its scale. It meets all the Avengers and kills them all! Like, that's an insane number of changes compared to the "sacred timeline". Anyway, this show is getting better with each episode.
7/10
Great episode. Shows the true potential of this series.
Just put the cast list at the end.
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!........
BLAM!!
That was SO funny!!
Wow! I came to the comment section expecting to see nothing but praise, but it seems like a 50/50 split in terms of love vs hate.
Personally I loved it and thought it was the best episode of the series thus far. But then I really like the humor aspect which l, I guess, isn’t for everyone.
I appreciate the effort put into making this series and enjoy the technicality behind the animation and rendering. It's awesome.
Hearing Chadwick say "In my culture, death is not the end. They are still with us, as long as we do not forget them" was such a gut punch.
This episode was so damn fucking tragic . Really didn't expect it to end like this.
Holy shit. Who would have guessed an animated D+ Marvel show would have the darkest stories in the MCU? Easily my favorite story of the whole MCU.
Welp. That was depressing and dark as fuck.
Talk about getting the Bad End.
But if this is a taste of what Multiverse of Madness is going to be like... Consider me even more hyped.
I just don’t get why Kareth is goofier and also the new guy. When his character was around in the 90’s, in Captain Marvel.
Also that the more serious T’Challa would call himself Star Lord, like Quill.
So beautiful and lovely, like the beginning of the episode said, a person's true nature shines above it all, and this isn't just about T'Challa/Star-Lord but about Chadwick, our forever hero.
[7.7/10] I was so pleasantly surprised by this! I didn’t really know what to expect, with this being Marvel Studios’ first foray into animation and the high concept premise of the show. But I really enjoyed what we got.
For a while, I expected that this was really just going to be the plot of Captain America: The First Avenger except with Peggy slotted in rather than Steve. And that would still have been perfectly fun! Watching this show hit the same beats of that film, except with small but significant difference thanks to Captain Carter being in the role rather than Steve Rogers would have been worthwhile on its own.
For one thing, I like how this episode, as Agent Carter did, focuses on how even with her accomplsuhments, Peggy faces discrimination because of her gender. Of all the people for the MCU to bring back, it’s funny that it’s Bradley Whitford’s returning from the all-but forgotten Agent Carter one-shot. But he makes sense as someone who always thought too little of Peggy, stepping into a leadership role after Col. Phillips is shot, and creating an internal impediment.
To the same end, I like how the episode flips the dynamic with Peggy and Steve, but tshowing how they still understood one another and would bond with one another, even if their situations were changed. The two still falling in love, only to have Peggy making the heroic civilization-saving sacrifice play instead, is still heart-rending, and a nice sign that even as major things change, some things stay the same.
But I also liked the places where this episode goes off the reservation! Howard Stark building a proto-Iron Man suit for Steve Rogers called “The Hydra Stomper”? Yes please! Captain Carter saving Bucky, thereby avoiding the Winter Soldier situation (at least with him)? Hell yes. Her finding the tesseract and bringing it back to the good guys on an early mission? Awesome!
The further along the plot of First Avenger that this episode gets, the more it diverges and makes its own rules and own story, and I really appreciated that. Her team’s attack on Red Skull’s stronghold made for a rolokcing conclusion. I don’t know who Red Skull’s “champion” was. (Hive? A Chithuri?) But watching Peggy fight a giant squid monster while the Howling Commandos rescue Steve made for a killer conclusion.
I was especially impressed by the fight sequences here. I have to admit that I had some reticence about the cell-shaded graphics. In truth, the vocal tracks didn’t always sink perfectly. But the action was surprisingly fluid and well-staged. The show uses the freedom of animation to add greater flow to Captain Carter’s badassery, and some of the combat has a more impressionsitic style that makes it top tier MCU fisticuffs. Even the use of lighting and color in these fights stand out. Going into What If...? my biggest concern was the visuals, but they came through like gangbusters.
Overall, this was an exciting start to this new show and raised my expectations for What If...? to be more than a shiny lark, and instead be a meaningful exploration of what these changes in the path might look like.
Now THIS is the content I've been waiting for. Things are finally picking up. I've found this show hard to get through up until this episode, but now I'm invested. Great episode.
Heavy handiness continues with that opening (mainly spitting on the black soldier) but damn if it doesn’t go completely overboard with the revelation of the police chief - whose practically in love with a black woman - having a figuretive skeleton in his literal closet in the form of a KKK wardrobe. The storytelling grace of a sledgehammer. (Assuming he affiliates with that stuff and it's not just a remnant of a dark family past. Even then, not sure how many non-racists would keep it hidden in their big closet, and overall I doubt that there'll be more nuance to this in episodes to come.) Might already be losing me at this point. Mystery-box intrigue keeps intriguing, but those rarely build up to anything meaningfully substantial. (Also: Looking Glass giving extra Rorschach vibes with his not taking the mask off while at home this-is-my-true-face type of deal.)
Sarah is handcuffed to a doorway push-up bar which is meant to be easily removed. She could have easily just taken the bar off the doorway.
This is now officially the unauthorized Roadrunner adaptation.
And at this point, I'm only watching it because of some misguided hope that the Coyote will have their day.
I don't like dream sequences at all. Like any tool, I guess they're neutral, and dependent on the hands that wield them, but I can honestly count the number of dream (or vision) sequences I've seen that have felt narratively and/or artistically engaging on two hands. Which makes it even more impressive that this teen super hero show just did an episode that was at least 50% dream sequence and managed to knock it out of the park to a degree that's honestly a bit scary.
I'd enjoyed the parts of the previous episodes where we got a taste of Tyrone and Tandy's empathy powers, and in hindsight, I really appreciate the way those glimpses built towards what this episode did. The creative team manages to lend a weight of emotion and purpose to these abstract happenings that made them feel both moving, scary and consequential. I think the most important part is, that even if these powers are rooted in trauma, the prevailing mood in the dream sequence is one of empathy, sympathy and connection. Tandy and Tyrone recognise each other's pain, they recognise the pain and joy in the people they're channeling, and the show manages to make that connection feel comforting and uplifting for me as a viewer, even if I'm intermittently (and deliberately) unsettled by the imagery and trauma involved.
I'm honestly a bit flabbergasted at how well the show does these things, and I'm really happy it exists.
Side note: Still a bit on the fence when it comes to Olivia Holt; the directors/producers don't quite seem to have cracked how to get the same level of performances out of her compared to those of the rest of the ensemble. It's not like she's bad or anything, it's just that the level of the rest of the cast have been such that her perfectly competent-but-nothing-more performance sticks out a bit.
It has sad scenes.
How tyson saved her life, how they had good moments together as friends. Real friendship.
She is really brave and stubborn. She wants to reveal.
She sometimes looks at people with the eyes. Towards them, even into face. Maybe cant do the role or did not work so hard, i am not sure. I know some other characters with vision disability roles, they were not like her.
That max is stalker. Said "keep coming to your home". This is threat, harrasment but she liked it.
I just love this movie. It is completely flawed from the get go based on the still present misconception that humans only use 10% of their brain despite evidence to the contrary for decades. Yet the art used to tell the story is truly wonderful. Maybe it is because Luc Besson has far more talent in artistic storytelling than so many other directors that the plot holes and other faults are not even really relevant. This is artistic science fiction (actually more sci-fi than science fiction) and is absolutely wonderful.
The only thing this movie is good for is prompting discussion. It raises a lot of interesting questions and presents a compelling "worst case scenario", but instead of properly exploring that, it seemingly embraces it. It's like the the writer failed to understand the moral of their own story.
Molly got pretty lucky...
At least the deal with AWOL seems off the table now :D
Anyway, I really wanna know how built/sent that drone. Is there a new player or did I miss something?
Nice, looks like there's plenty of drama left.
Catherine is getting what she deserves, Frank seems to have his own agenda (not quite sure yet - maybe his main aim is to just keep the church?), Karolina learns more about her father, and Livvie's back.
Unfortunately, Molly got overconfident...
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