I liked that Gov just did a really good job and started to question things, instead of foolhardedly trying to pursue Luther through the entire thing. That made me like his character a lot more.
But Alice... oh Alice, why did you...
What a gift though. "Happy birthday, here, have a dead girl's necklace, now let me rape you"
The wife's reaction has been talked about a lot, so I expected greatness, and I wasn't disappointed. It felt so genuine it tore me up.
Also I think latest (given you're deaf) at the point the police gets to the apartment you'd have to notice this is Great Britain - in an American TV show they'd have had the guns trained on him right away.
But omg... what an unfortunate ending.
What if? episodes are.. well iffy. They're usually a waste of time in my opinion and don't do much but some mild cementing of characters. This is one of the exceptions on top of being genuinely interesting, and although we don't get much in terms of growth we do learn about Tandy with some significant measure. We see how much of her is ingrained and more importantly we see how much she cares for Tyrone and how in the end as she says in the first moments he is her port in a storm. He is her last hope.
Great episode. The fact that all episodes where “connected” makes this episode a great ending of this season (idk if there is going to be more). Its the best one? Nope. It works and even considering some contradictions, like Ultron not using the full power of the Stones, limited by the short length of the episodes, it’s a satisfactory ending.
After a very hit-and-miss season, this finale was nearly flawless and redeems even the poorer episodes. (Okay, maybe not that Dumb Thor one.) An unexpected coming-together of previous episodes gives us action on a cosmic scale never seen before in the MCU, including action moments that put your most over-the-top anime face-offs to shame. Really neat stuff.
Oh okay I see what they did there! Guardians of the multiverse! I like that. Maybe we could even get a live action with Peggy, Killmonger and others.
And I’m intrigued by they mentioning every universe’s infinity stones are slightly different!
Also we are owed the Gamora Thanos episode.
Well, that was fun. I herd they're doing a season 2. Maybe they can get the horror inspired Man-spider that they wanted to do in season 1 lol.
Not sure if overall What If...? is my favorite MCU series, but this is definitely my fav finale of them. It ties to past episodes and ups the scale without losing much of the charm that some of the best earlier stand-alone episodes have. Plus, the story strands of Peggy and Natasha turn out pretty affecting (and the latter's convo with The Watcher such a meta comment about telling and watching these MCU stories over the past decade).
Really liked the season finale, it was really well put. The only "plot hole" is that at any time did Ultron tried to use the power of all the gems at the same time (maybe only in the last battle); but to be fair, it felt really close to the battle against Thanos in Infinity War (although he had 4 stones only at the time). It was a nice connection between all episodes, and the post-credits scene made me smile a lot (don't know why). Really well made, a solid 8 for me
A perfect ending to an interesting series. My favorite character throughout the series has been The Watcher, would love to see him in a live action too.
Viva las Vegas! Cute wordplay. ;)
Cutting out Gamora's episode this season when she was still part of the finale was a bad (okay yeah, a sad one since it was because of COVID delays) choice. I'm guessing / pretty sure it's the episode that was pushed to Season 2, but still. Now we know she and Tony will be allies in the end (and judging by the leaks, they weren't in the beginning of their episode).
That fight scene was badass! (Although I do agree, it was almost too easy, but at this point, I was so sick of Ultron as a villain overall that I just wanted it to be over.) When they "beat" him around the halfway mark, I knew there was no way they were done, it was stressing me out. Glad Nat found a new home; I was just wishing that that would happen to her; I was confused for a second and didn't recognize that she was sent to the Avengers Assassinated verse.
[7.1/10] Pick an ending, am I right? First it’s having to remove the soul stone from Mega-Ultron. Then it’s removing all the stones. Then it’s getting them in the infinity smasher. Then it’s using Hawkeye’s Zola arrow on Ultron. Then it’s Zola and Killmonger having an uber showdown. Then it’s Cosmic Dr. Strange trapping them in a pocket universe. Then it’s The Watcher having planned it all this way from the beginning.
It’s a little exhausting, making it feel like we didn’t really build to any of this, but rather, it just happened by fiat. The best you can say is that The Watcher picked these folks knowing the progression and so saw the parts they would play, but it’s not especially clear how and why this was the necessary path or that these were the necessary people to walk it.
(As an aside, why Gamora? I know there was one episode of What If? that didn’t get made because of COVID and other timing constraints. Was it hers?)
Still, some of the interactions are fun. Thor-as-Sterling-Archer is still a hoot, and his happy-go-lucky dopeyness around the other “Guardians of the Multiverse” made me laugh. I also loved the bond between Captain Carter and Black Widow. Captain America: The Winter Soldier is one of the MCU’s better films, and I wouldn’t want to trade it, but this finale definitely made me want to see more adventures of Peggy and Natasha as a team.
And there’s some solid emotional stuff here. Cosmic Strange getting a little redemption after his early mishap is a nice beat. The stinger with Captain Carter getting to see her lost love again much as Steve did is a nice touch too. And I like Black Widow returning to the Avengers-less timeline from episode 3, finding a new home and place to belong, with that being the abiding moral of the series. The overall themes and character beats work well.
It’s just the big climactic battle -- which in fairness, is most of the episode -- that falls flat for me. There’s some cool visual moments, mostly in the way of Cosmic Dr. Strange channeling the dark forces with some multicolored splendor and turns into a tentacle monster. For the most part, though, it’s just a bunch of undifferentiated fireworks and fisticuffs without even the imaginative fun of The Watcher and Ultron’s smash-tour through the multiverse. It wasn’t bad by any means, but nothing we haven’t seen before, without any new twists or wrinkles to set it apart despite the advantages of working in an animated medium.
Overall, I still enjoyed What If? quite a bit as an entertaining lark. The anthology format is a good one for a comic book universe, and several of the remixes were inventive and clever. It’s just the attempt to put them all together, and leave several of the stories unfinished so that they could be concluded in the grand finale, that I’d count as a misfire.
Still can't beat episode 4 for me, but HOLY SHIT
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Not technically fourth wall-breaking, but The Watcher is so aligned with audience's perspective that Ultron's acknowledgement of him feels like it, and that moment feels so jarringly thrilling. Plus, best use of animation's fluidity so far; series-altering serializing with past episodes; and real, hefty stakes both small (Natasha and Clint) and big (Ultron's unstoppable domination that culminates in a Multiverse-leaping fight). Just good stuff all around. Can't wait to see how this lead into the finale.
A whole saga and it turns out, the key to intergalactic peace is a rager. Just do it on some deserted planet and y'all are good to go lololol
This episode was pretty funny as a whole, but dang, Darcy hit different. :joy:
Also loved Jotunn!Loki's appearance! (Guess this is where Loki/Sylvie's big change start to come into play, where this Loki will finally not have a miserable end.
When Thor made his "smile a little" comment, I went OOF and got excited because we know just how much Carol loves that.
Jane's character was very... OOC though? It felt like she was dumbed down for the story. Pretty sure they could have approached this some other way.
All in all a pretty fun episode. One of the better ones after the (imo) not so good past 2 episodes.
I was also spoiled by early leaks of the season's episode plots on Reddit, so I was surprised that we got an early glimpse of Ultron/Vision here.
Loved this episode! Had the same energy as Thor Ragnarok which is easily the funniest Marvel movie
When even the Watcher is up there looking sad by the turn of events :upside_down: I honestly came out of this feeling the worst for T'challa's parents. Stop making them sad, pls.
best episode yet! the ending didn't feel contrived and it felt like a far better standalone story than all the previous episodes combined, which is super surprising because i went in thinking this would be the most boring only to have my expectations completely shattered. it had its flaws, of course, but for further reinforcing how killmonger is one of the mcu's most compelling antagonists and having a super interesting storyline with many twists and relatively thought-provoking themes/messages, this episode is definitely getting a rewatch (unlike the others)!
LOL at Michael B. Jordan getting to say “What? I like anime” in MCU.
Continuing to confirm my theory that everything involving Wakanda is leagues above everything else in the MCU, this is a big improvement over last week's disappointing outing, even if the show continues having problems pacing itself. This is a big concept to do in 30 minutes - one that involves literally removing one of the MCU's biggest characters from the equation entirely - and while it does a great job in setting the stage, once the stage is set, it just... stops. This is a shame too cause the concepts explored here are really cool and fascinating, and like some prior episodes clearly needed more time to breathe.
Still, the good stuff is damn good here. Killmonger is one of the MCU's best villains and here we get another glimpse into just how good his planning, manipulation, and intelligence is. And just like in Black Panther, you can't help but root for him despite his obvious lust for power here, even if it's with extremely noble intentions. I do wish we got a more interesting, longer conversation between him and Rhodey about their differences in ideology, but the short runtime is once again to blame there. Still though, enjoyed this quite a bit.
I think this proves Killmonger was kinda underused or underdeveloped in BP :( cause I had no idea he was so smart! I feel like in BP he was portrayed more like someone who uses brute force the most. But here he barely moved a finger and he initiated a war between USA and Wakanda.
Oh and that brief T’Challa funeral scene was heartbreaking.
That was an interesting episode for sure.
First things first, what the hell happened to the animation? After stepping up the game last episode, this one took a serious nosedive in quality up the point where some movements and facial expressions just look motionless and ugly. Disney has a huge budget for this show, make use of it.
Again, many former (and current) MCU actors return to voice their characters, with notable exceptions of Robert Downey Jr, Scarlett Johansson, Liv Tyler and Brie Larson.
The replacements did a solid job, especially since their parts where not that big, with the unfortunate exception of Lake Bell, who tried her best impression of Johansson but made Natasha come off as robotic and emotionless (didn’t Laura Bailey, who can do no wrong voice her in Ultimate Spider-Man? How about that instead?)
The concept was interesting. What if the Avengers where killed off one by one before even coming together? What other options would Fury have?
The snippets of the OG Avengers were something to say the least. Most of their deaths felt (unintentionally?) funny and the episode didn’t really seem to know what tone to aim for. Or maybe by focusing mostly on Nick Fury they took the more emotional element out of purpose. Who knows? I believe that could have been made clearer.
Loki is the best part of this episode, because he is Loki and always the best part in anything he shows up in. It was fantastic seeing him as a respected leader among Asgardians, leading his people, fighting our main villain and wrecking absolute havoc on Earth in the most dramatic way possible to avenge his brother. He is Loki, of course he goes over the top.
I admit, despite Loki being awesome and the concept being interesting, I almost rated this episode down, if it weren’t for the twist villain in the end.
I should have seen this coming and it makes so much sense in retrospective, but in the moment it caught me off guard. Tragic and well-executed, it actually deserved more attention.
In other news, it was nice seeing Betty Ross again and since she plays such a huge part in Bruce‘s life, I‘m still puzzled Marvel never brought her back before (either with Liv Tyler or another recast).
Some funny tidbits are actually delivered by Coulson and his man crush on Thor and his overall gorgeousness. And his password.
It’s a solid episode. Definitely better than the mostly dull first one, but not nearly as great as the second one.
"He's dead." — Black Widow
Natasha just killed Tony Stark
Fury: "They look like they're from Earth?"
Coulson: "Maybe Middle-earth?"
Loki: "We are not allies."
Fury: "Then let me help you."Uh... Fury... that's how this works
Coulson: [Sighs] "Hashtag-Steve-Steve-Steve-I-heart-Steve-0-7-0-4."
Same.
Fury: "I'm not the only Avenger left."
Ouch, that hurt
Best one yet? Best one yet.
This one is the most interesting by far. Like, while Captain Carter hits the same beats as TFA and T'Challa's is original, I like this one because of its scale. It meets all the Avengers and kills them all! Like, that's an insane number of changes compared to the "sacred timeline". Anyway, this show is getting better with each episode.
7/10
Great episode. Shows the true potential of this series.
Just put the cast list at the end.
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!........
BLAM!!
That was SO funny!!
Wow! I came to the comment section expecting to see nothing but praise, but it seems like a 50/50 split in terms of love vs hate.
Personally I loved it and thought it was the best episode of the series thus far. But then I really like the humor aspect which l, I guess, isn’t for everyone.
I appreciate the effort put into making this series and enjoy the technicality behind the animation and rendering. It's awesome.
Hearing Chadwick say "In my culture, death is not the end. They are still with us, as long as we do not forget them" was such a gut punch.
This episode was so damn fucking tragic . Really didn't expect it to end like this.
Holy shit. Who would have guessed an animated D+ Marvel show would have the darkest stories in the MCU? Easily my favorite story of the whole MCU.
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