Such a great way to end the season. With coach Beard being the 'weird guy we all have in us' having a night like that I think many people can relate to him now even more. Jamie Tartt's dad is a WANKER, so happy that he got his a** kicked. And that present for the bar guys, so cool!
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@Fartman86 the season hasn't ended. three episodes left.
This town has a child die like every week, how is that not starting to disturb people?
Also, why did no one tell Lex or Lana about the whole red Kryptonite thing? It's not like they would have had to explain anything more, if the "meteor rocks" can make you a pyromancer, a seer, a shapeshifer, telekinetic, and many other things, it's reasonable to expect it can make you change personality. Just say Clark has some genetic disorder that makes him susceptible to it or something. They literally just saw a weird parasite do it, too.
I'm starting to really hate Lana and how she can accept Chloe was a different person but doesn't let Clark explain, but then again Clark could have just told her the truth or the partial truth about the red Kryptonite the last time it happened and at this point it's just pathological.
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@cluisanna you don't like Chloe!?
Did I miss something? Were we supposed to know who Crash was from before this episode ?
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He hasn’t been on much at all. The UK version showcased their version of character slightly more.
Review by Andrew Bloom
VIP9[6.2/10] Sometimes I forget how long ago 2001 was. That sounds weird to say. (I promise you, I know how to count.) But the world has changed a great deal in the last twenty years, and those changes assuredly extend to the world of television. When I cued up a venerated HBO drama from the early 2000s, I expected something that felt of a piece with The Sopranos or The Wire or Deadwood. What I got was...this.
The pilot of Six Feet Under is not bad exactly, but it’s also a show that has more in common with The West Wing or louder network T.V. dramas than with those other prestige series that reset the standard for realism, psychology, and storytelling on television. Everything in the opening chapter of the show is very direct, frequently cheesy, and often rather cliched. If I didn’t know better, I’d guess that it was made in 1991 instead of 2001.
That means resetting your expectations as a viewer: for the level of subtlety, style of dialogue, and overall approach for a new-to-you series. Enough people whose opinions I respect laud this show as in deserving companies with those other vaunted HBO dramas, and pilots are almost always a case of a show finding its voice. So it behooves us (read: me) to keep an open mind. Suffice it to say, this was a rocky start.
The core of that rockiness comes from the characters, the bulk of whom feel profoundly stock. The worst offender there is Nate, the proto-Jeff Winger and wayward thirty-five-year-old with daddy issues who left home at his first opportunity. Nate seems to be our perspective character, despite an ensemble cast, and his generic middle-aged free-thinking black sheep routine, which the show seems to built around in the early going, is not a great sign.
But there’s not much beyond him either. The show quickly tries to establish a sassy, off-beat love interest in the form of Brenda, who’s not only pretty annoying in the early going, but who can’t cut through the show’s forced attempts at chemistry between her and Nate. The Fisher family matriarch, Ruth, has the germ of a good idea behind her character as the good and proper wife who was secretly bristling enough at her husband to cheat on him, but the show makes her a pretty thin archetype in this early episode. Claire, the youngest Fisher sibling, is another stock bad kid, still in her crystal meth-smoking teenage rebellion phase. None of these players are terribly original or compelling.
The one exception here is David, the middle Fisher kid who’s stuck around to take over the family business. It’s here that I’ll admit my pre-existing appreciation of Michael C. Hall from his turn in Dexter, which may be coloring my judgment here. And yet, Hall genuinely does better than anyone in the cast at turning the pilot’s cornball, on-the-nose dialogue into something that feels real and affecting. His character is also the show’s most interesting and unique. He’s a man of contradictions -- seemingly inheriting his mother’s obsession with propriety while secretly engaging in a lifestyle that much of society unduly considered improper, and dreaming of getting away from the family business while feeling it’s his responsibility and his burden despite not being very good at it and resenting his siblings over it. There’s more to David, both in terms of performance and character, than in any of the show’s other major figures.
But it’s hard to blame the performers too much when the script is this over-the-top and the style of the show seems so campy. Almost every emotion in this first episode is played to the cheap seats. Some of that can be attributed to the fact that each member of the Fisher family is coping with the loss of the family patriarch, so it’s fair to expect emotions to be more outsized than they’d be in a normal setting. Even so, the reactions and choices the character make feel more cartoony than they reflect the myriad shades of grief we all experience at a time of profound loss.The saving grace, though, is that the outsized approach works much better in the show’s comic and more imaginative moments. When the series is trying to be a vaguely kooky kitchen sink drama, it falls flat. But when it turns to more impressionistic devices to represent the difficulty of coping with the loss of a loved one and the strange parade of rituals around the business of death, it becomes much more compelling and even funny.
The easiest of these is the way Nathanial Fisher, the deceased dad, appears to each of his surviving family members. It’s a shame that Richard Jenkins is unlikely to keep making appearances given his character’s...er...circumstances, and when the show plays his reappearances for drama, as in the cornball closing sequence, it doesn’t work. But when he pops up to haunt his family members, often with sarcastic comments and a wry affect, it’s more engrossing than any of the overblown conversations among other members of the family.
It also allows the show to wring some of its best laughs from this situation. Beyond Nathanial’s amusing sarcasm, the show also earns some yuks from its fake commercials, which satirize the commoditization of everything, up to and including how we leave the mortal coil. Likewise, it gins up some fantastic black comedy from Frederico, an early favorite character, and the way he treats corpse-reconstruction like a work of art. It plays on something true -- the strange intersection between taking justifiable pride in your work and the way the end of life could become something humdrum when you’re around it enough.
The difference between that strain of humor and almost everything else in the episode speaks to the central irony here. The major theme of this pilot is “realness.” Ruth and David are very much in the business of making everything seem fine and presentable, even when they’re quietly cracking up inside. That extends to their literal business -- an effort to make the ugly, unpredictable act of leaving this world into something neat and clean and comprehensible.
The purpose of Nate, then, is to nigh-literally throw dirt on that idea. He wants to undress the rituals of grieving, remove the veneers of propriety and let people be people, now more than ever. There’s something messy but human and, most importantly, real at the bottom of all this grief, the episode seems to say, and that shouldn’t be suppressed or hidden.
But the pilot for Six Feet Under does hide it, under reams of cheesy dialogue and over-the-top performances and a generalized hokiness that hobbles an interesting enough premise out of the gate. T.V. evolved quite a bit very quickly around this time period, and much of that evolution was a move toward greater naturalism and realism, or at least the trappings of them, in the presentation. It meant a move away from some of the showier and stagier elements that leave this opening salvo feeling far less profound than it seems to want to be. The pilot’s “things should be more authentic, man!” theme plays pretty trite two decades later, but it wouldn’t be so bad if the show took its own advice.
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@y2jin99 Awesome! Seeing him still busting his ass and working with the next generation into his 50s is a big part of what got me into AEW.
Of course Barry Allen’s daughter likes girls and Oliver’s son likes guys. William is tied up in the future and throws out for no reason that he likes guys. How CW...
My reaction now is just “of course.” Definitely not as moving as when Alex came out in Supergirl. Since now everyone is gay on CW lol.loading replies
@jim222001 Originally in the comics Oliver's son was always gay so...
Couldn't finish this offensive for the sake of being offensive bullshit. The ratings are pretty worrying though. Is that how people are / what they like these days? Kinda sad.
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@ace_of_space Anybody could say the same thing about the stuff you watch. It's subjective in the end, Archer is pretty funny even though it's not in the top 10 of the best shows I have ever watched. But after you have seen most of the good stuff and there is nothing left to watch, you have to watch this kind of stuff. In my honest opinion, game of thrones sucks because it is a boring soap opera but on your profile you gave it a 10/10. The difference is that you women get off on drama while us men like to watch movies and tv shows that have great action and gore and a lot of "offensive" stuff. TV doesn't care about your feelings, there are plenty of tv shows out there for everyone's tastes. But I have to admit that the first time I saw Archer I didn't get the jokes and couldn't appreciate the show, now I find it quite funny.
[3.4/10] Giving this another shot in light of the revival, but yeesh, this is rough. I originally gave this a 1/10, and while I'm content to upgrade it to "bad" on rewatch it's still pretty awful. Kyle McLachlan is a revelation, but he's really the only thing this episode has going for it. The dialogue and the acting are all so so bad. And my god, the score. It couldn't be cheesier if David Lynch were literally smashing the audience's faces into a vat of queso while it played. The murder mystery is convoluted right out of the gate, and the cryptic hints here and there come off forced rather than mysterious. Everyone is an exaggerated archetype, and none of the characters are compelling short of Agent Cooper (with the sheriff, Ed, and his paramour being serviceable but no great shakes). The young actors in particular are uniformly terrible (what is with the two punk kids barking at Blue Steel in the other cell) and the whole thing is just hokey as hell. There's also scores of blunt exposition and informed attributes that go over like a lead balloon.
But the worst part is that it's also a slog, with interminable, poorly-paced scenes and dull interludes. If ever there were a show that could do with some better editing, this is it. Hard to see, even on a rewatch, why this show is so lauded.
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[1/10] This review sucks.
this tv show sucks,my eyes are bliding ever time i see this
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@luis_angelct100 then ... don't watch it?
Shout by Pavel Osinek
Am I the only one who is sorry for Kelly? I mean, I like Amy, but Jonah really hurt Kelly. :/ She is so nice and she doesn't deserve this.
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@twistytheclown I totally agree! Kelly deserved better
This show's casting is getting worse and worse I swear lol. And these stories are getting cornier and cornier haha. I would be surprised if we see this show around for another season.
The Good Doctor is a much better hospital show
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@mediacenterkodi Literally renewed for three seasons.
You know what, fuck this show, and the writers, and the poorly written plot and overused plot twists! What the hell happened to this show, it had so much potential, how did they let it get this bad? Not sure if they got renewed for s4, but I doubt I'll be watching it. I'm done.
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@raichuuu ok, just shut up.
Actually a great episode. I rather see Oliver chained and tortured throughout. Than hear Felicity's voice. So it was a nice change lol.
Although she's in the end. Would have been nice if she wasn't at all.loading replies
@jim222001 Its one thing to complain about too much Felicity like season 4 wich i totally hated, another thing is too be a little cry baby because she had like 3 lines.
I think I will skip this one. A musical filler episode? No, thanks.
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@alex8mr 1 star for something you didn't see ?
The only person I dislike more than boomer is annie:put_litter_in_its_place:
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@sulgz why? She's pretty funny.
I’m completely puzzled and frustrated!! At end of season 3 episode 23 Casey was undercover to get info on girl trafficking, Dawson was looking at a pregnancy kit. Key In 4/01 and where the hell are we, no continuation, new characters on truck and ambulance with no lead up to how or why they got there?? 4/02 still all out of sync even the descriptions shown on screen don’t agree with what follows. However addictive so will perservire and comment again later, a huge thank you anyway guys. Ged
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@gedkodi01 If like me, you are binge watching these after they aired, you are likely confused because (not sure if this was the case here) chicago shows cross over a lot. Make sure to check out http://fictiontimelines.com/tv-timelines/chicagoverse-timeline/ , in case you are missing the story completion that was rolled into part 2/3 of another show.
Okay now they ruined multiple things in this episode.
The whole hacking method is a joke. The cheap flight scenes really have to improve.
You clearly see them struggling with their harnas wish makes the flying look very odd and unrealistic.
Also the whole kryptonian shield that neglects the powers in it just is the most retarted idea ever.They really should come up with some original stuff that makes things better and not the other way around.
Even smallville had better special effects than this one and that is way old by now.I'm guessing their gonne cancel this show soon.
AND OMG AT 43:03 of this epîsode what the hell was that? lol.
Almost pissed my pants when seeying that scene. So the Kryptonian goes in his sit pose and all the soldier just bend down over him?
LOL Now you can't tell me these directors really have any idea what they are doing.And glad to see magical glasses exists. Cause she really had to put down just her glasses to reconize supergirl xp crappy shit xp
Also this show is showing the weakest kryptonians ever.
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As for cancelling the show soon. I don't think it should since if you click on tv link here it's always one of the most shows watched. Just not on Monday. On DVR it's highly watched the next days after it is first aired.
Sheldon is afraid of cats but has no problem with "Soft Kitty"?
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@onlime Cats have claws. Songs about cats does not have claws.
Thought ep.2 was bad but ep.4 shoved down more pro-muslim rhetoric. We also see a angelic WH speechwriter being promoted to WH press secretary because his parents are muslim. Why does this show need to promote and highlight muslims at every turn? Even the first lady went out of her way to save a illegal immigrant from deportation. Hard to continue watching such unabashed liberal cliché.
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@ano009 alert ! trump supporter detected
Thought ep.2 was bad but ep.4 shoved down more pro-muslim rhetoric. We also see a angelic WH speechwriter being promoted to WH press secretary because his parents are muslim. Why does this show need to promote and highlight muslims at every turn? Even the first lady went out of her way to save a illegal immigrant from deportation. Hard to continue watching such unabashed liberal cliché.
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@ano009 Don't then. Sheesh. Enjoy your bigoted shows.
So why couldn't Wyatt just go back to the day his wife was killed and follow her around to prevent it ?
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@jim222001 They can not go to a time when they have been
I lost 10 IQ points watching this pile of stupidity I'm sure of it.
The humour is so bad I wonder if it was meant as a comedy or not. Maybe it's some sort of tragic police show and I just didn't get the point of it.
Also, the ford product placement is completely sickening. Is this an acceptable thing now?
And then there are the production levels. They were driving straight with the wheel at a 30 degree angle for example. The ford they were driving changed halfway through the series. That could be a dumb joke or just the team misplacing or thrashing their first car.
It feels like a Brooklyn 9-9 ripoff for stupid people who don't understand 9-9's humour.
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Use your remaining IQ points to find info about Police Squad/The Naked Gun and educate yourself before trashing something you know nothing about. The goal of this show is, precisely, being as stupid as possible and it has nothing to do with Brooklyn Nine-Nine. It's like comparing Spaceballs with Star Wars or Austin Powers with James Bond.
http://www.tvacres.com/images/police_drebin.jpg
I lost 10 IQ points watching this pile of stupidity I'm sure of it.
The humour is so bad I wonder if it was meant as a comedy or not. Maybe it's some sort of tragic police show and I just didn't get the point of it.
Also, the ford product placement is completely sickening. Is this an acceptable thing now?
And then there are the production levels. They were driving straight with the wheel at a 30 degree angle for example. The ford they were driving changed halfway through the series. That could be a dumb joke or just the team misplacing or thrashing their first car.
It feels like a Brooklyn 9-9 ripoff for stupid people who don't understand 9-9's humour.
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Use your remaining IQ points to find info about Police Squad/The Naked Gun and educate yourself before trashing something you know nothing about. The goal of this show is, precisely, being as stupid as possible and it has nothing to do with Brooklyn Nine-Nine. It's like comparing Spaceballs with Star Wars or Austin Powers with James Bond.
http://www.tvacres.com/images/police_drebin.jpg
So good it's probably getting canceled
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USA usually doesn't get rid of it shows that fast.
So good it's probably getting canceled
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I just got a second season renewal ;)
