Best episode ever because lightsaber fight !
Seriously ?! It was in parts better but it couldn't save the show as a whole.
OK, I admit I was wrong and there was another match between them. And it was better then the first. But no stupid writing ? Why did Vader just leave Obi-Wan under the rocks ? He couldn't feel he was still alive ? Well, he couldn't feel him sneaking up behind him, couldn't he ? But he knew he was on the little ship. And if that is how it went down why didn't Obi-Wan just kill Vader right there? Could have saved the galaxy lots of trouble. He clearly had accepted that Anakin was gone, he even called him "Darth" (which by the way is wrong because that's a title, the name would be Vader). And they now established that the Empire, and Vader, knew all the time that Kenobi was alive and where he was.
Luke having no memory of being chased in the night by a lady with a crimson lightsaber ? OK, maybe it's one of those selected memory losses.
Reva standing on the surface of Tattoine after taking a lightsaber in her guts just mere hours before ? How is that not convinient writing ? And wanna bet we see her again? Maybe in a spin-off?
Qui-Gon appearing at the end was nice but ultimately useless. This final episode was just ticking up boxes to preserve canon but it also creates logical errors by doing so. And there was never any danger towards the characters.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but after watching what I had high hopes for, I can only say it would have been better it didn't happen.
Disappointing.
Why does the imperial cruiser break the chase, when it has plenty of ships on board to pursue Obi-Wan's single craft?
Did Vader really need to take the imperial cruiser with him, to then leave it behind to go alone after Obi-Wan?
Why Vader doesn't even bother to check Obi-Wan is really dead, after all the trouble he has taken to hunt him down? He just turns his back and walks out? He is able to detect Obi-Wan's presence hundreds or thousands of kilometres away fleeing onboard a ship, but can't tell he is alive under a pile of rocks right next to him?
Why should Obi-Wan leave Vader alive after defeating him and confirming there is nothing left of Anakin, only a Jedi mass murderer and a danger to the entire galaxy stands before him? Why make this mistake a second time?
Am I really supposed to believe after watching this series that Vader/Anakin was the chosen one? He is ridiculed and portrayed as a fool that would struggle to pass a basic IQ test, not to mention all those tactical errors (aren't combat and command amongst the many subjects jedis were proficient at?). Vader deserved much better.
It beggars belief, and takes viewers for complete mugs.
It was slightly better than the previous episode and there were fewer logical mistakes, though Darth Vader definitely needs to fire all his gunners as they could not hit the rebels' spaceship which was quite an easy target. I got the impression that they were just shooting colorful lasers into the space for fun to illuminate the sky as none of them passed close to the rebels. Of course it is really good news for the Jedi rebels that the imperial army is so lousy. Darth Vader is naturally stupid for not checking whether Obi is really dead, since as we know from "The Hobbit", the opponents who seem to have been buried often jump up from below the ice - or rocks as in this case. Though this may be attributed to Darth Vader's arrogance so maybe this is not such a big logical mistake. However, it seems that Obi does a serious mistake in deciding not to finish his enemy after all, is there any reason why he doesn't do it apart from the fact that both feature in the future films? In the show itself no such reason is given, it looks like he feels pity for his former student but it is hard to believe how can he pity him after all the atrocities Vader has committed. I guess he should have killed him as he could have guessed that when Vader gets better, he would concoct some terrible revenge. Obi seems to care about Leia and Luke but removing the threat of their evil dad would be the best he could have done for them. As for Luke, he seems to have some magical powers already as he is not killed even though he falls on the rocks, he could have broken his neck or become paralysed but escapes totally unscathed.On the whole, the little princess seems to me the most interesting character in the show, maybe she is too clever for her age but the scenes with her were rather enjoyable. Luke is rather lukewarm though ;) And last but not least, Vader apparently lives in Mordor now that it has been abandoned by Sauron ;)
First and foremost. I stand firm on my opinion that you like all of Star Wars in it’s entirety or you’re not a Star Wars fan. These comments are atrocious. The writing was wonderful and sentimental, they couldn’t have a grand revelations or changes because they have to keep within canon confines, the fight scenes were great you just expected more from ageing characters and actors, the dialogue was sentimental and wonderful, and the parallels between the fight in rebels was intentional perhaps to create a similar level of emotional resonance between Ashoka and Obi Wan, maybe use your brains damn.
I loved this series, it gave me just enough new insight to be engaging and fresh but kept true to the bones of the show. It was good to see Obi Wan struggle with his connection to the force over the shows run, and it was so magical having Leia, playing her theme at the end wrecked me and brought me right back to Carrie, the intentional fan service of “Hello There” was perfect, and you really went out there and got Liam Neeson. I appreciated every second of this show and I am so grateful it was made.
That being said. This works perfectly as it is, additional seasons would be unnecessary in my opinion.
I don’t understand how a destroyer can keep up with a smaller ship the size should make it slower no?
Holy shit i didn’t know the dessert igloo was a Hermione’s purse of magical open space one you walked in lol. It wasn’t even that bright on the outside when they walked in then bam sunlight
Why not just fly under the destroyer lol
How did the inquisitor get off the planet?
I finally understand why Jedi’s used light up swords in a space ship technology era, its because all guns suck apparently. How you got the drop on someone in your house and still miss with 2 against 1 :man_facepalming_tone3:
You talked all that shit for so long and all you did was put a few rocks on Obi lol
What the actual fuck!!! You know how dangerous Vader is and you still leave him alive per usual. Im so sick of shows not killing the bad guy. I don’t know how it would work obviously from the movies we know he doesn’t die but still I’ve had enough.
Isn’t she suppose to be better. Why would you teach Princess Leia to call people peasants i guess no matter the time in human history there will always be a group of people that think they’re better than everyone else and they still rule over everyone else
This show is the most amazing thing ever, second place sliced bread and in third is the wheel.
As much as I bash the purely stupid Marvel movies, it would be amis if I did not praise the direction of the Star Wars episodic mini movies. Yeah, The Boba Fett Show was simply "above average" while Mandalorian was a poor man's Obi Wan Kenobi. As Excellent as the Mandelorian was, it was no where near as powerful as this show.
I proclaim it to be the best show ever, nothing I have ever seen was what this show is.
At long last, Princess Leia, truly takes on the mantle of being a Disney Princess. As much as we have come to love her as being Carrie Fischer, now she gets to be little Ani. The actress channeled the mother of the Naboo and the soon to be Dark Lord perfectly. In each episode it was clear she would become the leader of the Resistance that we know and love. To see her being captured and quasi-interrorgated was a pure pleaser to us that have watched her over these last 40 years.
The first episode was good, not overly great, but very solid. The second episode was twice as good as the first, and laid the ground work of what we could see to be the penicle of the Star Wars Saga. The Third Episode blew the first two out, and put this on the level poor Picard could never reach. Episode Four and Five, simply superb, and very true to the story we have waited so long to see. And what a build up it has been. The Clone Wars, Rebels, Solo and Rebel One set the scene perfectly. None better than the cartoon Star Wars Rebels, were we get introduced to the Inquisitors. The backstory of these guys will blow your mind alone, even if only one of them gets a backstory, it was so fufilling.
This leads me to by far the most polarizing character in the show, Third Sister. Its about time a black woman can actually wear her hair and look like a black woman in a show, instead of having straight weaved hair and whatnot. This woman was by far the most interesting character. If you did not play the lates game, you may not be familiar with her. Ice Cube, Jr gave a great performance in his brief oppurtunities. And seeing the Empire begin to crumble from its defections are a nice way to lead into the first movie of the franchise.
Ok, what did I not like...Obi Wan uses a green lightsaber, not blue!!! And, we have to WAIT for another season. Yep, thats about it. I know, it was Anikin's old lightsaber, I get it, but he still should have been using the green one in the flashbacks. Speaking of flashbacks, I am the foremost hater of the flashback. But This show implemented them beautifully. Oh and they should have given a reason for Obi Wan to spare Vader, not going to deep into this...spoilers.
Now we finally get to Vader, as does Star Wars. How in the world can the number one villian ever to be in science fiction only have three movies, we need to milk the hell out of Darth Vader, and we finally did. Hayden Christiansen was finally awesome in the role. James Earl Jones, nuff said.
Lastly, no Dave Filoni! Yes! Dont get me wrong, I like the guy, he is really good. But he was a bad fit for this, and Disney knew it.The Executive Producer, one of them at least, was Ewen McGregor himself. And it showed. He put his heart into this character, and he was amazing. The guy is jus a great actor and this is his, no this is Star Wars' Masterpiece.
Hang this show in the Louvre, right next to the Mona Lisa. No show has ever been better. Couple this with the 2 seasons of Solar Opposites and the Disney+ESPN+Hulu Package is a steal.
Semi Spoiler, seeing Darth Vader get his butt handed to him was sooo freaking sweet.
Why are the "rebels" or whatever giving Obi-wan a hard time about sacrificing himself so they can get away...??? OWEN LITERALLY SAID they won't make it. Then he's like "OK IM GOING" and they all b**ch him out, like... what?
Reva is just able to travel to another planet, track down Luke and even chase him after after being STABBED by a lightsaber in the gut, sure why not. I guess they're not that powerful anyway :) Also how does Luke have NO MEMORY of this nor meeting Obi-wan? Just more needless plot holes that need not exist.
Also her goal was to take out Vader, why the f*** is she suddenly in "Bad guy" mode again wanting to go after Luke, especially after learning her backstory and her change in the last episode..... But sure, why not.... I guess Reva "FORGOT" she was after Vader, just like Daenerys forgot about the iron fleet :upside_down:
Like the final fight and confrontation between Vader and Obi-wan was really cool but all the dumb crap to happen along the way just made the payoff so unsatisfying. Also why didn't he just kill Vader, it makes no sense. Also what happened to the imperial cruiser outside of orbit of the planet they were on? They just let Obi-wan fly away? LMFAO
God, I just wish this show didn't happen. It added nothing to the Star-Wars universe. Disney SERIOUSLY needs to address the showrunners and directors they're putting on these shows. They have iconic and timeless IP, and they're wasting it on low talent writers and show runners.... They need to start putting top of the line talent for these "Flagship" shows like they did for WandaVision & Loki. Because they're going to learn the hard lesson Netflix is learning right now that fan's will only put up with SO MUCH before their stocks crash.
"No we need you!"
Haja: "You have my word."
Owen: "Beru, what are you doing?"
Beru: "We both knew this day might come."
[Beru chucks Owen a blaster.]Beru: "She'll come when the suns go down."
Darth Vader: "Anakin's gone. I am what remains."
Darth Vader: "You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did."
Reva: "I couldn't do it."
Obi-Wan: "Who you become now, that is up to you."
Obi-Wan: "Both were exceptional people... who bore an exceptional daughter. I wish I could tell you more."
[Leia looks at her parents.]
Leia: "It's okay. You don't have to."
Obi-Wan: "Hello, there."
Qui-Gon: "Well, took you long enough."
Qui-Gon: "Come on. We've got a ways to go."
6.5/10
“OBI-WAN: PART VI”: A RUNNING OPINIONARY
:white_check_mark:88% :thumbsup:14 :thumbsdown:2 = Great!
Observation:
We're back on Tatooine! I have been missing his outer rim planet that we've been visiting so rarely in recent years!
I quite enjoy how this episode feels like the third act of an unmade Star Wars film - it's dark, depressing and desperate, with the Empire closing in and Ben doing everything in his power to lure them away from their pray.
I'm still loving the mix of Original Trilogy era sets and models and slick visual effects!
Not sure what to think of the entire Luke plot line they crammed into this last episode - they are perhaps leaning a bit too much on fan service now and messing with events established in A New Hope (Owen and Beru are badass, though!).
The lightsaber rematch between Ben and Vader - need I say more? I love how intimate it feels and how the camera shakes along and how the actors put their hearts into every stroke of their sabres. The second round of this duel is probably the most emotional, lightsaber fight we've seen so far.
This one share a common problem with many series finales these days - it's occasionally so darkly lit that it's difficult to see what's going on.
All around great performances, especially from Ewan McGregor, every person bringing Vader alive as well as Joel Edgerton.
Ben's final moments with Vader and their short conversation sent shivers down my spine!
Well, of course they threw in a little cameo from Ian McDiarmid as well! Not to mention the one and only Liam Neeson!
It's nice how there is plenty of time devoted to goodbye and slower emotional moments in the end, as that allows the narrative to tie up any loose ends and provide a good bridge leading to the original movies and any subsequent protects set after this one.
[6.0/10] I don’t know what to do with this episode. I like the last ten minutes or so, the cooldown from all of the big action set pieces. But almost everything up to that point is a giant head scratcher.
Why are Obi-Wan and Vader fighting again? Honestly, it’s a little cheap to have them fight even one more time between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. But twice? Twice they collide and let one another get away despite all the history there and all the resources at their disposal. I get that these are two marquee characters in both trilogies, and you have to juice this interstitial story. But come on. It strains credulity that this would go down the way it did not once, but twice.
You get the vague idea that it’s because at some level, they still care for one another, or have a shared history that they can’t ignore. And I can kind of sort of see that idea. But they spend a lot of time seemingly trying to kill one another before they stop at the last minute. Maybe it’s what Obi-Wan says to Reva in the end -- maybe it’s showing a mercy to honor the lost or something.
But given the casually dumb stuff like Vader seemingly crushing Obi-Wan with rocks and then just walking away (couldn’t he sense Obi-Wan still?), I’m less inclined to give them credit for potential excuses. The fight isn’t even especially good! The lighting is cool, I suppose. But the choreography is awkward and the editing is choppy. The fight choreographers are trying to channel the fights from Ep. III and Ep. IV, but there’s nothing distinctive or natural about this. Even Obi-Wan’s big rock-floating moment just seems cheesy. There’s other ways to signify that he’s more confident and accepting of his powers now. For such a big meaningful confrontation, the whole thing is very disappointing.
Except for one moment. Ewan McGregor absolutely kills it in the scene where he apologizes to Anakin “for all of it.” It’s a reminder of why it was such a boon to get a performer of that caliber in this role in the first place. None of the fisticuffs delivers on the meaning of the moment, but McGregor absolutely does. You feel his pain and regret at what he feels is his broken responsibility to his brother and all that hardship it caused.
Vader absolving him in a way, telling him he killed Anakin, not Obi-Wan, is interesting. It feels like a weird thing to say in the moment. Maybe he just doesn’t want to give his old master credit. But it conflicts with one of the cooler lines in the third episode of this season, where Vader describes himself as “Only what you made me.” Plus hey, if I’m being honest, a similar moment in Star Wars Rebels pulls off the same sort of idea much better. The best you can say is it helps account for why Obi-Wan sticks with his “certain point of view” lie to Luke about his father.
If that weren’t enough, the whole bit with Reva, Luke, Owen, and Beru is such a problematic story choice. By all accounts, Reva should be dead, so the fact that she’s still up and about and stalking people (and flying ships without detection too, I guess?) makes it seem like taking a lightsaber through the torso is only a flesh wound, and like Vader and the Inquisitors are complete idiots. It’s such a cheat for her to be back at it so quickly, and the timing doesn’t make much sense either.
Plus god, did we really need to invoke Luke being hunted by a Sith Jr. in all of this. One of my favorite parts of Obi-Wan in the early going is that they zigged when I thought they would zag. Turning the focus to Leia over Luke, whose childhood and home life is comparatively underexplored, was a really deft choice. Deciding to turn the other half of the show into a homestead standoff with Owen and Beru fighting a force-wielder to protect their nephew comes off like total, unnecessary fanservice. It only exists to juice our excitement by involving known characters, rather than earning anything through the story alone or an ability for the show to mark its own territory.
That said, some of the fanservice is enjoyable enough, especially when it’s an accent rather than a main course. Obi-Wan sneeringly referring to Vader as “Darth” is a nice call-forward to their face off in A New Hope. The cameo from Palpatine drives home the difference in Anakin’s old master and new master, and is welcome under the circumstances. Kenobi delivering his famous “Hello there” to Luke is a cute way to do it. And Qui Gon is a welcome sight, not only because Liam Neeson is another rare gem from the Prequel films, who plays the character with the same playful defiance, but because his appearance signifies Obi-Wan reaching a breakthrough in his healing and self-forgiveness. The arrival of his old master is a great and impactful way to dramatize that.
Plus, as much as I loathed the assault on the Lars homestead, I appreciate where they go with Reva. Her idea to payback Anakin by killing his son is a little nuts and doesn’t make that much sense. But I love the idea that, in the end, she can’t go through with it, and Obi-Wan grants her absolution for showing that compassion, telling her it’s not a failure but a mercy, in words he means for himself as much as her. So much of the storytelling involving the Third Sister has been so botched this season, but at least it ends in a good place.
The same can be said for this episode. There is great catharsis in Little Leia making it home and gaining the acceptance of her mom and dad to “lead her way.” Obi-Wan helping to make peace with his own past by telling her a little about her biological parents is a nice way to pay tribute to their relationship and his relationship with Anakin and Padme. Obi-Wan ending his hermithood and being willing to trust the safety of Luke to his aunt and uncle is a lovely moment of growth and truth. More than anything, these closing scenes are a beautiful tribute to parents who adopt their children, and how those bonds are as worthy and important as the bloodlines that have, unfortunately, become so important in Star Wars. The grace notes here are worth the shaggy, oft-nonsensical path to get to the epilogue.
All of that said, the Obi-Wan Kenobi show, or at least this season of it, makes a lot more sense if you pretend the Original Trilogy doesn’t exist. It would erase all of those call-forwards. But the truth is that this show is a follow-up to the Prequel movies, not a precursor to A New Hope. Even on its own terms, it makes scads of baffling story choices and problematic character directions. It has plenty of high notes, but squanders the opportunity to bring such a talented performer back into the fold and reckon with the mistakes of the past.
Still, I appreciate that, at the end of the day, this is a story about Obi-Wan trying to do just that, eventually finding equilibrium and renewed purpose after giving up on all that he’d once believed in and hoped for. The execution is janky as all hell, but I admire that this is a story about him processing his guilt and regret over what happened with Anakin, the Jedi, and everything really, only to find himself on the other side of it. I wish Obi-Wan Kenobi had accomplished that noble goal better, but I’m glad that its heart remained in the right place. Maybe they’ll get it right with McGregor in another seventeen years. Even when you have the force, perhaps the third time’s still the charm.
Okay, there's so much to love about this episode - and honestly that outweighs some of the more questionable events, that it still earns a close to perfect mark:
the not so good:
* the whole Third Sister attacking Luke part seemed contrived... and it shamefully distracted from Obi-Wan fighting Vader... and of course, suddenly she's qualms about killing a child.
* again: Obi-Wan not killing Vader. Now that he's reconciled (at least for himself) that Vader "killed" Anakin, wouldn't it make sense to kill a Sith? Wasn't that sort of a major point in the Jedi involvement in the Clone Wars?
* Vader still being singlemindedly stupid, obsessed and self-absorbed: Why not take his own ship to follow Obi-Wan and send the Inquistor after the refugees? And we're meant to believe he really stopped looking for 10 more years?
* And let's just forget the fact that Obi-Wan apparently had a hyper-space capable ship ready inside the rebel-ship with a defect hyperdrive... and he doesn't take it and get Leia to safety right in the beginning?
Overall, though, a satisfying journey.
Pros
+Bringing the story back to Tattooine makes sense it should've been by the other inquisitors though, like specifically under Vader's nose to distract Obi Wan or something.
+The Obi Wan/Leia relationship is one of the few times where the newer Star Wars products strengthen the films. We never get why Leia thinks he's the only hope in the originals but now we get that piece and it's done quite tastefully.
+++++++ Vader wanting his rematch and getting it, choreography, music, art design. They knew this was the one crucial moment that needed to be perfect and they got it right! Felt like two of the strongest Jedi/Sith of all time facing off just like Mustafar. Obi Wan softening when he saw Vader's deformed face has some of the best acting in a show this year.
+++++Lars and Beru just gunning on the Third sister was funny as hell although it obviously made sense and was their only option. Just two hillbillies against a near invincible sorcerer, the plot armor is strong with them. The only thing that would've made it better is if 10 year old Luke choked her ass out too.
Cons
- The Third Sister should just be dead, I'm sick of motherfuckers being stabbed through the gut and cut in half and thrown into an spaceship's reactor and all sorts of stupidly, overtly fatal injuries and have no capacity to get help and yet somehow come out of it. It's by far the dumbest part of Star Wars. Anakin should have been a one time thing due to him being just stupidly force sensitive and getting immediate help along with his injuries being solely on his limbs. Now every death is just subject to opinion because hack writers like the shock value. At this point it's only rolling eyes they should be getting. Like her "redemption" by not killing him and ending the cycle of trauma is meaningful at least but it's not really creative or unique for the series.
Review by CVIP 3BlockedParent2022-06-22T08:29:43Z
The best episode of the season? I think so. More emotion and less bad writing made for a great episode. The inevitable battle surpassed my expectations. Going into it I thought it'd be a silly unbelievable battle, and the ending did live up to that, but overall it was great. The FX and dialogue was perfect for once and delivered and left me wanting for more which is a good thing.
I'm still left confused with The Third Sister and the point in her attacking only to just leave everyone traumatised and everyone being ok with that. I did think she had much more depth to her this episode and the last, which is great for her and the character but more was needed to salvage the character. I feel that actress has a lot more to give but I guess the script didn't offer it which reflects bad on her even though it shouldn't.
Lia was in this far less but when on screen it meant something unlike the last episode. Great interactions and good acting made her moments very emotional and perfectly acted and directed.
Before this episode I was ok with it being over but now I'm left wanting more which is great. Hopefully they have learnt from this season and if they make more it'll be good and better than this season.