Don't know where the high ratings come from. This show is not good. It's slow, empty, cliché and totally not "cool" or "tough". Luke Cage was the only show that was nice to watch. Probably something to do with the American cliché of having the worst life, drinking alcohol to drown in your sorrows and having had loss (which we all have in our lives). Being able to relate doesn't make this a good show. Hoped for a surprise, but it's nothing special and even a bit bad..

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@allendar Try to perceive the show from the perspective of a veteran that returned from war. The show is anything but empty, the message is clear in the end, an endless war inside a war veteran, the vengeance story is a perfect metaphor for an internal war that a returned veteran feels. The last scene from the last episode makes this clear.

@allendar Really? I couldn't disagree more, coming from an Australian, the American cliche has nothing to do with it, it's an entertaining violent justice-fest of a show and Jon Bernthal was perfect in his role.

@allendar Given your 15% watched marker, I'm going to guess you didn't get very far in. The first few episodes are boring. Hell, I wouldn't have watched the show if not for my desire to consume almost everything in the MCU. So I'm coming at this from the angle that the show isn't 'great' to begin with, but honestly, while it doesn't deserve any awards (except maybe for how it handles multiple different viewpoints of the issues with veterans returning from war), the relatively bland start isn't indicative of the follow-through.

if the show isn't much to begin with, and season 2 is generally rated as being very bad, then what's left? I watched painfully through the entire first season, with the dragged out story, bad and overacting actors, who you can almost see thinking how they should act in certain situations.... this is for me again a great Marvel character total wrong pictured....

@allendar 11% watched. Opinion irrelevant.

@allendar agree. I watched S01 when released and watched again lately because I didn't remember it at all...

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